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Advantages of 1.33.2005?

I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?

xsnipuhx said:
I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?
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You can run Cyan on HardSPL or even the stock SPL. You only need the Haykuro SPL for more internal storage space for the OS in the phone, which allows for bigger ROMs to be used. It will also give you adequate space for whatever you may want on your phones internal memory

Well I am running HardSPL atm, but Hero kind of intrigues me and I wouldnt mind trying it out. But if really doesn't help out that much, I guess I'm going to stick with my setup right now. ty B-man0007

Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.

h.nocturna said:
Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.
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I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.

xsnipuhx said:
I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.
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Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)

B-man007 said:
Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)
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You sir make a good point, I think I'll be staying at the HardSPL then.

If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...

h.nocturna said:
If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...
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Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide

Haykuro's SPL is my favorite, because all that extra space makes things run much faster, on top of giving more room to Cache's if you have Apps2SD. Big time themes also fit onto it, and if you follow instructions closely, should have no problem installing it.

xsnipuhx said:
Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide
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I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens

h.nocturna said:
I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens
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I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!

lukekirstein said:
I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!
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I'm running JacHero 2.5 w/o Rosie and my friend is using Cy and he was the one that pointed out myne may be even faster and he on Cy 3.6.7.2. That was from his mouth not mine. Not to mention There's now a go around to make sure you get EVERY text message on Hero so you never have to miss another one again

so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?

xsnipuhx said:
so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?
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If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!

AdrianK said:
If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!
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Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?

you can still brick your phone even if you do everything right
xsnipuhx said:
Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?
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It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?

I'm actually in the middle of backing up my SD card and setting up another SD card with the SPL update on it then I'm going to flash it. put the cyanogen rom on my partitioned card and hope everything goes smooth, ill report back when I'm done. Anyone know how to flash my EXT2 partition so i can start fresh?

ei8htohms said:
It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?
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haha ya as soon as i heard cyan bricked it i wouldn't touch the dangerspl. thats when i stopped reading all the threads to insure i didn't get a brick lol
but he did flash the dangerspl after people said that it wouldnt flash with his recovery just to test it... so theirs still a chance i might do it lol
please note that there are apparently different versions of the 26I radio. Make sure you flash the one haykuro posted for safetys sake

Should I wipe before I flash the Radio and stuff from haykuros google page?

Root for Rookies

Hey Guys
I really hope I'm posting this in the right place. Please forgive my ignorance
For the past few days I have tried to get simple and UP TO DATE instruction on how to root the G1. There is so much information scattered out there that its quite overwhelming. Unfortunately I only understand half of the stuff I'm reading (at best) and was hoping one of you smart folks can help a complete amateur in my desperate quest to get root
Can someone please help me with the following:
1) are these steps for downgrading to RC 29 and rooting still applicable for cupcake?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
2) what does it mean to update the radio, SPL, and ROM and how do I do that.
3) where can I find the latest versions of all the stuff I need?
4) will I be able to reinstall all the apps I've bought as long as sign in with the same email after rooting?
5) will some market apps be blocked for me after rooting?
I realize this sounds really ignorant but would appreciate any help I can get!

Think about how many times a day the same inquiries roll these boards. If you've been reading the boards for the past few days and didn't find the answer to the majority of those questions something ain't right meng. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying. The foundation of everything you may or may not learn is slap dab one of the first posts in this forum.
I'm not going to get into that..but you need to. the answers to all your questions are here in front of you. It just gets frustrating (it was to me at least) at times because you might stumble upon 3 different but totally correct answers to one question. Thats exactly where i was right HERE. that was two weeks ago. jumped on the boards one friday night a wreck, by sunday night i was peacefully rooted. Slow down, think about what your doing and what you're reading. make sure you have some free time...TO YOUR SELF. get a pen and some paper right stuff down. take into consideration you might not make it in a day. yeah u might botch your way to ROOT, but unless you REALLLY understand and know how to get there...you could be setting yourself up for alot of frustration. thats all i have to say about that. you caught me on a good night...just had a glass of wine bout call it quits. sorry about any typos. good luck!

doctorfugazi said:
Think about how many times a day the same inquiries roll these boards. If you've been reading the boards for the past few days and didn't find the answer to the majority of those questions something ain't right meng. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying. The foundation of everything you may or may not learn is slap dab one of the first posts in this forum.
I'm not going to get into that..but you need to. the answers to all your questions are here in front of you. It just gets frustrating (it was to me at least) at times because you might stumble upon 3 different but totally correct answers to one question. Thats exactly where i was right HERE. that was two weeks ago. jumped on the boards one friday night a wreck, by sunday night i was peacefully rooted. Slow down, think about what your doing and what you're reading. make sure you have some free time...TO YOUR SELF. get a pen and some paper right stuff down. take into consideration you might not make it in a day. yeah u might botch your way to ROOT, but unless you REALLLY understand and know how to get there...you could be setting yourself up for alot of frustration. thats all i have to say about that. you caught me on a good night...just had a glass of wine bout call it quits. sorry about any typos. good luck!
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off topic here.... but you may want to change your sig.....
SPL before RADIO = FAIL
1) downgrading to RC29 has not changed. it is only different if you do not have a us or uk g1 (you will need to use a goldcard method otherwise)
2)
radio is here
(ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip )
http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html#s3
HardSPL found here w/ descriptions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
3)what stuff?
4) yes your apps will be there
5) depends on the rom but most have all apps enabled

B-man007 said:
off topic here.... but you may want to change your sig.....
SPL before RADIO = FAIL
1) downgrading to RC29 has not changed. it is only different if you do not have a us or uk g1 (you will need to use a goldcard method otherwise)
2)
radio is here
(ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip )
http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html#s3
HardSPL found here w/ descriptions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
3)what stuff?
4) yes your apps will be there
5) depends on the rom but most have all apps enabled
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Thanks so much! I realize hearing these basic questions about root over and over must be increadibly frustrating for you and appreciate the patience!
Any recommendations as to what ROM I should install? Not quite sure how the different versions compare.

off topic here.... but you may want to change your sig.....
SPL before RADIO = FAIL
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OUCH! Good looking out.

OP, I followed the instructions you linked to just a few days ago and it worked like a breeze. Much easier that I thought it would, and i have no experience with this. I would suggest that when you get to the final part where you are upgrading to a new ROM to try cyanogen's stable build 3.6.8.1. It is just like cupcake (what you had) with a ton of new options.
also, his pimped out recovery.img can be used... version 1.4. I followed that guide to a T, then learned of this new and improved recovery.img file he made. So, basically the next day I changed to this version and it is a lot better.
Partition your sd card when you finish this and his rom will put all of your apps on your SD card, which frees up a ton of internal memory. I went and d/loaded about 60 apps after doing this. His rom does it for you automatically... like, no thought needed, you want even know unless you go to settings and look at the memory.... or, you may b/c of the speed of your phone. This was also much easier than I though, basically just keying a few lines of text in terminal emulator (which you will have after loading his rom above).
Any of the other experienced people have any issues with what I said?

I would also suggest cyanogen's builds. It has a lot of features and is both relatively noob friendly, feature-packed, advanced capabilities for advanced users, and fast. His 4.0 stable is just around the corner with even more features than his current stable version. There are many other ROM's out there as well, you'll have to try em out yourself and see if you like them or not. (Be careful of the ones that say you need the updated SPL, such as the hero ROM's. If your not careful when updating to that SPL [Haykuro's 1.33.2005 SPL] you could brick your phone. )
Cyan's recovery is a must
its great no matter what ROM you choose to use
If you need anything else, feel free to PM me or post here

This is how I got it to work!!!
(SD CARD READER NEEDED)
Got it to work using this tutorial. If I had found it before I wouldn't have started a new thread. Will look harder in the future!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731
Followed steps until step 16
After step 16:
I had to install the JesusFreke rom cause it wouldn’t let me flash the cyanogen recovery image otherwise (permission denied problem as mentioned by author)
Installed cyanogen recovery image
I skipped partitioning the sd card at this point cause I didn’t plan on installing the Hero rom. If you want to flash the Hero rom you shouldn't skip partitioning
Installed latest Radio
Installed latest SPL
From here on I did my own thing:
Couldn’t boot after updating SPL cause rom got wiped by updating SPL. I had to put the new rom (Cyanogen v3.6.8.1) onto sd card, rename as update.zip and boot into recovery mode to flash it. This is were the sd card reader comes in handy.
You can find the Cyanogen ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204
After flashing the rom it was stuck on the loading screen so I rebooted into recovery mode and did a clean swipe. Loaded just fine after that.
Created ext2 partition using Paragon Partition Manager (see threat below), rebooted and was good to go
Partitioning using Paragon Partition Manager:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...artitioning+sd
Thanks again for your help guys!

I just used cyan's recovery 1.4 and loaded the radio.zip, spl.zip, and rom.zip onto my sdcard and flashed them in that order. I didn't need to take my sdcard at all

ThR1LL said:
I just used cyan's recovery 1.4 and loaded the radio.zip, spl.zip, and rom.zip onto my sdcard and flashed them in that order. I didn't need to take my sdcard at all
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lol i c u used my guide.
Hope it was helpful hahahaha

nephron said:
lol i c u used my guide.
Hope it was helpful hahahaha
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There's a guide on this?!?! WTF!!! I like freaked out over a week trying to figure out how to flash the new SPL without taking out my SD card until I found this post and made it work with cyan's new recovery. Someone should sticky your guide bc I had no idea it existed lol.

ThR1LL said:
There's a guide on this?!?! WTF!!! I like freaked out over a week trying to figure out how to flash the new SPL without taking out my SD card until I found this post and made it work with cyan's new recovery. Someone should sticky your guide bc I had no idea it existed lol.
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ya . Right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
o and right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
(scroll down to fastboot)

nephron said:
ya . Right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
o and right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
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Ohh lol see I didn't bother reading that ADB guide since I already had adb since pre-cupcake when I attempted to root my phone the first time.

Cant get past dum activation screen after flashing dreaimg.nbh and cupcake

i dont have a data plan now so i cant activate the phone and i cant use adb cause its not working on win7 for me..is there anyway i can just flash spl and radio and skip the recovery image? I tried someones sim but it just says error when i try to register.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.. or Confirm this is correct. but..
If you're on an official rom you're out of luck, but if you can update to an ADP rom no login will be required. It's not a SPL or radio issue, purely rom based.

sonikamd said:
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.. or Confirm this is correct. but..
If you're on an official rom you're out of luck, but your can always update to an ADP rom. No login required on those. It's not a SPL or radio issue, purely rom based.
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im not sure wat ADP is..but im trying to root and i followed the guide for one click root from unlockr, is there anyway for me to use a ADP rom?

What phone are you using on what network? Was the other person's sim card on the same network? did they have an android data plan?
ADP means Android Developer Phone.

sonikamd said:
What phone are you using on what network? Was the other person's sim card on the same network? did they have an android data plan?
ADP means Android Developer Phone.
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Oh both sims were tmobile US, and the other phone was a moto zn5 so it wasnt a g1 plan.

So I'm *assuming* you're on a G1. You basically have three choices, either goto a t-mobile store and beg one of their techs to let ya use their data to register, find someone else with a g1+data and ask to use their sim card or go adp.
The downside of going with an adp rom is you'll loose the t-mobile branded stuff like tmo ringtones, the myfaves app, ?youtube? (not sure on this one, you should do some reading first or hope someone else chips in).
If you really need your phone now, and are able to install custom roms the adp version of donut can be found --here-- Note: I run the official roms so am not too well versed in ADP vs. AOSP+ADP but it looks like you may actually want the latter(AOSP+ADP)

sonikamd said:
So I'm *assuming* you're on a G1. You basically have three choices, either goto a t-mobile store and beg one of their techs to let ya use their data to register, find someone else with a g1+data and ask to use their sim card or go adp.
The downside of going with an adp rom is you'll loose the t-mobile branded stuff like tmo ringtones, the myfaves app, ?youtube? (not sure on this one, you should do some reading first or hope someone else chips in).
If you really need your phone now, and are able to install custom roms the adp version of donut can be found --here-- Note: I run the official roms so am not too well versed in ADP vs. AOSP+ADP but it looks like you may actually want the latter(AOSP+ADP)
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i dont have root i just installed dreaimg.nbh then flashed cupcake via home+end the press alt+l then alt+s.So i dont have any custom recovery images on my g1.

what guide did you follow? I'm confused, i thought the dreaimg.nbh was part of the rooting/testkey part...

sonikamd said:
what guide did you follow? I'm confused, i thought the dreaimg.nbh was part of the rooting/testkey part...
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this first:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/07/05/how-to-unroot-your-t-mobile-g1/
im up to this but at setup screen:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-root-the-mytouch-3g-or-g1-in-one-click/
can i rename the recovery image to update.zip the load it in recovery mode?

No, no renaming the recovery image.
Ok, so let me get this straight. You unrooted a rooted phone, to install the official cupcake so you could "one touch" root it which installs a custom recovery image @ the same time?
this is starting to hurt my head...

sonikamd said:
No, no renaming the recovery image.
Ok, so let me get this straight. You unrooted a rooted phone, to install the official cupcake so you could "one touch" root it which installs a custom recovery image @ the same time?
this is starting to hurt my head...
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i never rooted before i was just following the instructions because i had 1.6/donut on my phone.all i wanted to do was install a hero rom and the one click is the shortest way i knew.

Gotcha, headaches gone but unfortunately it looks like your stuck. It appears this process *assumes* you have a data connection(for the login process) and without this most guides out there are going to be useless, especially at this point.
I'd say add data for a month or w/e then remove it if you must once done doing what you're doin... or go back to looking for someone with data that can help ya get logged in. Bout the only ways out I can forsee atm.. Wish I could be more help...

sonikamd said:
Gotcha, headaches gone but unfortunately it looks like your stuck. It appears this process *assumes* you have a data connection(for the login process) and without this most guides out there are going to be useless, especially at this point.
I'd say add data for a month or w/e then remove it if you must once done doing what you're doin... or go back to looking for someone with data that can help ya get logged in. Bout the only ways out I can forsee atm.. Wish I could be more help...
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thanks for the help
I was gonna get flex-pay at Tmo since i hate being tied down to contracts and it can have a g1 data plan added.

alright, cool. Ya, i just got it from someone else wiser than I that without data you've got a long road ahead of ya getting your phone back up n running.

You can always do it the old-fashioned way... Just downgrade to RC29, login with WiFi. Then do the root process that way. Only takes 15min at most.

h.nocturna said:
You can always do it the old-fashioned way... Just downgrade to RC29, login with WiFi. Then do the root process that way. Only takes 15min at most.
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i cant use wifi since icant get in to settings since im at setup screen

Ace42 said:
i cant use wifi since icant get in to settings since im at setup screen
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There's a way to bypass it with rooted ROMs, of which RC29 is one. You can. There's a whole guide on how to do it.

Do i want to upgrade my SPL and/or Radio?

I don't mean to sound like a noob or anything, but i've seen this around alot and haven't been able to find much info.
I've come to the understanding that the SPL and the radio have something to do with the phone's boot loader, but that's really all i know.
Info about my phone is in my signature.
Do i want to upgrade my SPL and/or Radio?
Any info you can give me would be very helpful.
Thank You.

KodieG said:
I don't mean to sound like a noob or anything, but i've seen this around alot and haven't been able to find much info.
I've come to the understanding that the SPL and the radio have something to do with the phone's boot loader, but that's really all i know.
Info about my phone is in my signature.
Do i want to upgrade my SPL and/or Radio?
Any info you can give me would be very helpful.
Thank You.
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Only upgrade your spl if you plan on going to something such as a hero or blur rom. They basically rearrange your phones memory partitions to give more to .system and /data to allow for bigger roms to be used. If you plan on staying on cyanogen, any spl will work as of right now.

JAguirre1231 said:
Only upgrade your spl if you plan on going to something such as a hero or blur rom. They basically rearrange your phones memory partitions to give more to .system and /data to allow for bigger roms to be used. If you plan on staying on cyanogen, any spl will work as of right now.
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Is that the only reason why people upgrade their radio and spl?
And how come i see people using cyan with upgraded spl's and radios?

KodieG said:
Is that the only reason why people upgrade their radio and spl?
And how come i see people using cyan with upgraded spl's and radios?
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Of course not the radio must be changed if you want to use custom roms.The whole point of having root access if loading custom roms that are faster than OTA.Think about it like having a Government ID and still waiting in line at the airport, pointless right? The Special SPL allows you to install larger roms(eclair/hero/blur/pulse/)cyanogen doesnt need the special spl though.

Ace42 said:
Of course not the radio must be changed if you want to use custom roms.The whole point of having root access if loading custom roms that are faster than OTA.Think about it like having a Government ID and still waiting in line at the airport, pointless right? The Special SPL allows you to install larger roms(eclair/hero/blur/pulse/)cyanogen doesnt need the special spl though.
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Ok, so its probably a good idea to upgrade my radio atleast, right?
If so, where could i get the latest radio version?

KodieG said:
Is that the only reason why people upgrade their radio and spl?
And how come i see people using cyan with upgraded spl's and radios?
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for people like me who like to use hero roms from time to time

KodieG said:
Ok, so its probably a good idea to upgrade my radio atleast, right?
If so, where could i get the latest radio version?
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http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
-Best of luck

Ace42 said:
http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
-Best of luck
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Wait a minute. I already have that version. I've never upgraded it or anything though.

KodieG said:
Wait a minute. I already have that version. I've never upgraded it or anything though.
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Its included in the OTA(1.6) update from tmobile or rogers.

KodieG said:
Is that the only reason why people upgrade their radio and spl?
And how come i see people using cyan with upgraded spl's and radios?
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It also gives you more room for system and data, which means without a2sd you can install more apps

News flash***rom manager***

It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928

I couldn't agree more.

never used it thank goodness.........

Never happened to me
EDIT: Sorry for my rudeness, anyways, people should know that it's not the greatest idea to use rom manager with cm5/cm6. It has already been established that it may be a bad idea to use the program with the following roms. Sorry I get really cranky in the mornings, not the best idea to come onto the forum with some old news :|

protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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I have never used it and I agree with him just from all the posts I have seen related too it messing up people's recovery images. Does that make me stupid?

I've used it for a few weeks now with no problems on my MyTouch on 1.6, 2.1, and 2.2 ROMs. Not saying others aren't having legitimate issues, but people in general are much more likely to post negative reports than positive ones.

protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.

protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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Please lead us retartds through your install procedure, current rom, set-up so we can be as learndededed as you. I have had cm5&6 with ra installed upon initial set up. No swap/ noext1234, stock mt3g spl 2.22.23.02 radio. Nothing special. I even did it with the donut mytouch rom w/root.I only use basic apps, nothing that would interfere with recovery. to me it seems that when u flash a cpl different roms a day is when it hangs up. I can usually get the phone to boot back up, which gives me a chance to get back into rom manager and flash ra recovery back to the phone. the last cpl times I had to wipe cache before it would actually flash RA recovery. so basically if u can get the phone to boot past the splash screen go to rom manager and flash the **** out of ra recovery until it works. First we found out that clockwork didnt like flashing zip's and backups on low batteries 30% and lower. then the always fun recoverly log issue(cant recall the exact error right now) and of course the cant get to recovery issue. I know it's not a widesporead problem but it is a problem that renders phones useless until u can find someone nice enough to help u and not treat u like a retard. Not everyone knows as much about phones as you guys do....congratulations you know all there is about phones. go learn some ****ing human decency, if u have nothing helpful to say then shut up.

have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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arefin said:
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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hmmmmm. Maybe since its flashing clockwork from inside rom manager is what might be killing it for some of us. tonight I will try just flashing clockwork outside of rom manager and see how that goes. i like clockwork's set up and it is easy to use, just kinda freaks me out when my recovery goes bad.

arefin said:
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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but at the same time thats why it is a part of rom manager. one click recovery flasher. to make it "easy". i highly doubt you can go into rom manager and incorrectly flash clockwork recovery. its a one click thing

it's also spoken out at many threads at xda that flashing the recovery from within the OS causes issues, so trying to install the recovery from PC or even RA1.7 should be a better option.
I'm considering that you already know the commands for that. better luck! remember, clock work will allow you to flash anything without signing - meaning? you can edit any update.zip to your liking and then forget about all the trouble of signing it before flashing. a simple toggle should do the trick while you are in recovery mode happy flashing.
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It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.

crypysmoker said:
It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.
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Im gonna give it one more try. I dont think I have ever.....
flashed clockwork from rom manager
reboot into recovery from rom manager right then (read some where that on some roms when u reboot to recovery using the regular way it might mess up....not sure about this one).
wipe everything (clockwork wipes more that amon ra)
reflash any rom
in my case... above steps then in this order
flash fireats custom mtd part 1.1
super E
Gapps
overclock update
fireats custom mtd part 1.2
anyone see a issue with what I have done so far??
Ok I will post back when clockwork fails again.....and if not f-in sweet

chrisgto4 said:
It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928
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chrisgto4 said:
hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.
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You found your answer within the first example link that you provided, look at post #3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007

rom manager is not for idiots like yourself. rom manager is a great tool for many different phones. sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it. an advanced user (who its made for) can still flash recovery via fastboot, and have all the helpfulness and easy ui of rom manager and easy access to cm nightlies.
dont knock a dev who works on many different phones, and dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.

tehseano said:
sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it.
dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.
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i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)

I agree it is an 'easy' shortcut that is not the best decision.. Like for example I think it killed my phone. I repaired permissions via rom manager, rebooted as it told me to and now my g1 wont boot past the g1 logo. I could install from a backup but the backup is 1+ month old (my error oops!). I am hoping to find a solution... Really dont wanna wipe everything..

warsng said:
i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)
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I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.

tehseano said:
I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.
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Get a clue , its a program any gimp, including you, can install from the market, it is made in such way ...the fact that it dosent fail to write the recovery in fastboot mode means nothing!
This program shouldnt let the G1 user flesh any rec image. Till that happens it is the DEV's fault. Shouldnt be in the G1 CM's either.