[Q] Touch screen dead spots - Touch CDMA Android Development

This may be a problem beyond the scope of android, but seeing as I'm running it, I thought I'd try here first.
I've noticed that the lower left hand side of my screen has a "dead spot" where touch is simply not registered. To illustrate, I went to screen calibration's test screen and drew a straight line along the edge of the screen. (See Attachment)
I've tried recalibrating the screen (manually and resetting to default calibration) as well as wiping data and reinstalling the system. Reinstalling the system worked once, but then the problem came back and subsequent reinstalls did not fix the issue.
I'm running Incubus26jc super froyo [RLS 12] on the 15-07-10 340X480 Froyo Kernel.
Anyone else seen anything like this? As far as I can tell, the problem is not getting any worse. Currently, it's only a hindrance when trying to use keys in that region, but I can work around it by switching to and from landscape. It's a bit of a hassle, so I'm hoping someone may be able to shed some light on the situation.
I was sure it was hardware until the system reinstall fixed it, but am now baffled as I can no longer replicate the fix.
I have not tried reinstalling the kernel but will at some point in the next day or so. I'd like to avoid switching back to WM to check if the problem persists, but may have to... we'll see. Doing everything I can to make this phone last until the Incredible month of February when I'm up for an upgrade.

dont know the issue resolution... but i have the same with my touch vogue.. and in the same 'area' apparently as well.
hard for me to hit the 'a' key on my keyboard. hehe

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one... anyone else?

Bottom right corner for me... I was able to calibrate around it but it took a few tries.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

The sensitivity across my screen was inconsistent some time ago. I found that years of my abuse had taken a tole on the exterior of my phone. It eventually got worse and I bought a new housing (with a new digitizer) on ebay for a reasonable price. If it is hardware then it really isn't that hard to fix if you like taking things apart.
If you're sure that win mo accepts input from that part of the screen then nevermind my post. I would play with a painting app though and investigate the hardware further.
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
In any case, my investment in a hew housing was well worth it considering how modern my old phone has become thanks to the developers here.

gooph said:
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
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In my case, no - when drawing a straight line down or across the screen, the line starts 'moving' away from the stylus (like the picture in the OP).

Gah... now it's shutting itself off randomly and the dead spot has grown. Not good at all.

Yeah, mine was better for a while then 'slid' again. I ended up swapping the digitizer with my other Vogue and things are back to normal.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

I have another vogue, but am weary of doing anything like that. How hard was it to get done?

All you need to do is switch the front half of the housing rather than the digitizer itself- it's not hard. There's a teardown guide somewhere in the forum, Google Vogue teardown and it should be at the top.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

The only thing that worries me is that my spare vogue exists because it was dropped in a muddy puddle. I'm hoping the water damage isn't too bad. Guess we'll just have to see.

it is really annoying
I have the exact same problem and I too thought it was a hardware issue till I saw this Thread. I was ignoring it till two days ago when it started really bugging me. Now, I don't even need to press any button and it automatically gets pressed around the curve and I have a google search box there, so it keeps on searching for eee or sss randomly and started draining my battery. Is there a proper fix for this?

I thought I'd chime in too... I could never seem to calibrate the touchscreen properly in either Android or Debian. Changing the screen resolution (i.e. msmfb scaling) seems to have no effect, whether it's 240x320 or 640x480. Any area within 5mm or so of the edges of the LCD will register as the edge, making "A" and several other keys on the virtual keyboard impossible to hit. Passing calibration values to the kernel didn't seem to fix anything, but it's possible I was using them the wrong way...

i have the same kind of problem on my Kaiser... i think its realted to hardware... either the housing or the digitizer...

I am experiencing the same problem on X10 mini pro. the same screen spot exactly, i have to try very hard to get z or x or shift to work. Sometimes when I try locking the screen and unlocking it back, it works.

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so after a very long time with this problem i decided to change the digitizer and problem is gonne. visualy the broken digitizer had nothing wrong with it. The fix was fairly easy though, there is no glued parts involved into getting a new digitizer on the u20i.

Touch Screen
I just bought a brand new Cubot One and it looks more than perfect! It has just a little problem with the touch screen ( I think its the software, need ROM change). There is a dead line on the right side of the screen that touch doesn't work at all. Any solutions? Anyone faced that before? Can I fix it myself or do I have to send it back for replacement? Is there any video or guide that shows its done?
I uploaded a video on YouTube to show the problem but i cant post it yet.. (new member)
You can write "Cubot One touch screen problem" and it's the 1st one.
Thank You!

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XDA IIi Screen alignment trouble

Hi all
I have a problem with the screen alignment on my XDA IIi. I can get through the alignment tool fine and the 5 points match up correctly - however between the 5 points things can get quite far out of place. I tested this by trying to draw straight lines in notepad - the lines were very wonky, except for the sections near alignment points.
I was wondering if anyone knew of any software with more alignment points or any other possible fix.
Thanks in advance.
bushako
wow...rare case dude...never heard of anything of that kind..i guess you must have dropped it or better yet try Performing a hard reset, it may solve the problem...you must have installed a program that cause it to behave this way...
bushako
and oh yeah dont forget to back up,hehe
Yeah tried a hard reset... still no luck :\
I wonder if i should open it up and have a poke around.
Before you do that you might want to read on how the early Hermes were fixed, ie sliding a business card around the frame of the screen.
However, from personal experience, I once screwed up my touchscreen by sliding a screen protector up too high, so be careful. You might just open it up and take your chances there instead
Check out a service manual if you have access.
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Sinturion said:
Hi all
I have a problem with the screen alignment on my XDA IIi. I can get through the alignment tool fine and the 5 points match up correctly - however between the 5 points things can get quite far out of place. I tested this by trying to draw straight lines in notepad - the lines were very wonky, except for the sections near alignment points.
I was wondering if anyone knew of any software with more alignment points or any other possible fix.
Thanks in advance.
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Dude did u get it fixed..i think im facing the same problems now...when aligning the screen the 4 points match up correctly but also wen i draw something using 3rd part programs like pocket artist..id try to draw a straight line at the bottom of the screen and instead it appears curved..and when typing messages i always end up inserting the wrong characters even though i point at the correct letters...i tried swapping a telephone card inbetween the screen and the panel but it didnt make much difference...i can open it up and take a look but i dont think much can be done either...so if anyone else is facing this problem and have resolved this issue..please let me know...
yes, same as me.
whenever I tried to hit space bar, the button above the space bar will be pressed instead :-(
can anyone come up with the solution on this device problem ?
anyone got a solution for this?
I am experiancing the same problems basically I think the manufacturer installed protective screen has come loose from the hard sensor (due to use?) and so the stylus is pushing on an air bubble.
I dont know whether to cut out that layer with a scalpel (carefully or not) and use normal screen protectors that stick properly ... has anyone done this before?
Yes, you could be right relbourn, at first I was suspecting the screen protector causing this problem but
hm.. I've tried even to remove the screen protector and did HARD RESET as well but still......... the problem can't be solved :-| gees...
any idea ? instead of replacing the touch screen ?
any suggestion or similar problem with this ?

Huge problem!!!

I recieved my tilt from Amazon roughly aweek ago. Everything was going fine up until not to long ago. The screen stopped registering any screen taps from the stylus or my finger while everything else worked just fine. I reset the unit a few times hoping to resolve the issue. Nothing. THEN I made the big mistake of hard resetting the unit. Now i get to the calibration screen and no further. Anyone got any ideas? Any idea where I can take this to get looked at? i was contemplating sending it to Amazon as defective but ive already flashed the HTC Rom to it shortly after recieving it. Am I completely screwed? Help!!
hollowground said:
I recieved my tilt from Amazon roughly aweek ago. Everything was going fine up until not to long ago. The screen stopped registering any screen taps from the stylus or my finger while everything else worked just fine. I reset the unit a few times hoping to resolve the issue. Nothing. THEN I made the big mistake of hard resetting the unit. Now i get to the calibration screen and no further. Anyone got any ideas? Any idea where I can take this to get looked at? i was contemplating sending it to Amazon as defective but ive already flashed the HTC Rom to it shortly after recieving it. Am I completely screwed? Help!!
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you could try reflashing the original ROM
Yeah, I tried that shortly after making my original post. Still nothing. I'm curious if the cable for the digitizer came loose somehow (no idea how though) or if it is an actual hard ware issue.
I thought something was wierd when it was working though. When I used the stylus the taps were very inaccurate recently. More so towards the upper hight hand corner of the screen. Calibrated it a few times hoping to correct it but it was always slightly off still. Then it just stopped working all together.I thought it had something to do with my screen protector but after removal was still a no go.
Luckily I am still able to make phone calls thanks to the slide out keyboard. Not sure if it rings or anything when I recieve one though. Still stuck at the calibration screen Any other ideas?
What size star key is needed to disassemble the tilt/tytn II? I may try taking a look inside to see whats up.
hollowground said:
Yeah, I tried that shortly after making my original post. Still nothing. I'm curious if the cable for the digitizer came loose somehow (no idea how though) or if it is an actual hard ware issue.
I thought something was wierd when it was working though. When I used the stylus the taps were very inaccurate recently. More so towards the upper hight hand corner of the screen. Calibrated it a few times hoping to correct it but it was always slightly off still. Then it just stopped working all together.I thought it had something to do with my screen protector but after removal was still a no go.
Luckily I am still able to make phone calls thanks to the slide out keyboard. Not sure if it rings or anything when I recieve one though. Still stuck at the calibration screen Any other ideas?
What size star key is needed to disassemble the tilt/tytn II? I may try taking a look inside to see whats up.
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If you're stuck at the calibration screen after a hard reset, how are you able to receive calls? Surely the reset hasn't completed?!?
Also, if you have reflashed to the original ROM, and thats now stuck also, then it has least got the correct ROM image on the device, thus allowing you to return it for a replacement.
Still a little confused about how you're able to use it at all though...
i honestly though it wierd myself. after flashing back to the original rom. at the calibration screen if i slide out the keyboard, press the talk button , close then reopen the keyboard, it lets me dial out using the number keys on the keyboard.
I can actually make out the home page behind the calibration screen as the screen reorientates itself.
edited Well I've no idea what just happened but the screen just stared working again out of the blue. My dog jumped on the bed n stepped on it ant the cursor moved. Very weird. Damn I'm lucky. lol Thanks for the input guys. Lets just hope it doesn't happen again XD
return it ..
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return it ..
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I agree, sounds like a loose connection somewhere
Could be grit between the screen and frame
One of my friends had an XDA Orbit and he had this problem. It turned out it was a crumb or piece of grit wedged between the frame of the phone and the screen causing the screen to be permanently pressed at that point. He used some fine implement (maybe a pin - can't remember) to dig it out. If this was the problem with your phone that may explain why it suddenly started working viz the bit of grit became dislodged by itself.
Cheers,
Ashley
hollowground said:
i My dog jumped on the bed n stepped on it ant the cursor moved. Very weird. Damn I'm lucky. lol Thanks for the input guys. Lets just hope it doesn't happen again XD
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Thats doggone lucky!! Just another reason to have a dog around...

Screen-> Fade to White-> Temporarily

From what I've been able to find from searching, I think my Tilt is about to bite the dust, but thougth I'd post the symptoms and see if anyone has any good info.
My screen has been occasionally fading to white. Not sure how else to describe it. It just sort of starts getting white, and within 2-3 seconds will be completely white. It is still working, that is, I can place a call (using MS Voice Command); I can play music.
I have SPB Mobile Shell on it, and a button assigned to go to the home screen. I can press that, and it will go to the home screen and display normally. If it is a hardware problem, I find it interesting that I can go back to the main screen. I suspect it is close to gone.
Any thoughts?
If so, anyone know what it costs to repair, and where to do that?
Sounds like a software thing to me, I hate to say it but try a hard reset. Do you have a 6.5 rom?
I've been thinking of doing a hard reset anyway, My memory is about used up. I'm not quite sure why. Probably should get it cleaned up.
No, I'm not on 6.5. I've been reluctant to make the move. I did some rom updates some time ago, and then the person working it decided to stop. I decided to stay with MFGR based roms after that.
ewingr said:
I've been thinking of doing a hard reset anyway, My memory is about used up. I'm not quite sure why. Probably should get it cleaned up.
No, I'm not on 6.5. I've been reluctant to make the move. I did some rom updates some time ago, and then the person working it decided to stop. I decided to stay with MFGR based roms after that.
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Good thinking.
Likely NOT software but hardware -- could be the screen is going bad, or perhaps just the ribbon cable than connects the screen is broken or not seated properly.
burtcom said:
Likely NOT software but hardware -- could be the screen is going bad, or perhaps just the ribbon cable than connects the screen is broken or not seated properly.
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So the hardware problem is just scared of the button he has assigned?
I have SPB Mobile Shell on it, and a button assigned to go to the home screen. I can press that, and it will go to the home screen and display normally.
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Try putting the phone in the bootloader screen and let it sit there, that should let it go around the software.
Erm, yeah -- I guess that wouldn't be indicative of a hardware problem
Well, I am doing the hard reset. So far, no white.
Hmmm...lordy...I have a lot of stuff I try to put on this phone.
I wonder how much memory, both types, I need to keep available.
Don't put anything on the phone that you REALLY REALLY don't need. This is a taste phase and you need the least amount of BS on there.
Well, I've got most of what I need loaded, and have 61MB storage, and 63MB of Program memory free. Much better than before.
But I am still getting the fade to white occasionally.
I'm thinking hardware.
Anyone know if checking the 'ribbon' cable is user capable thing? I don't see it easily. I'll so some searching in the meantime.
Also, any feedback on cost and where for a new screen? Or do I just trash it when it finally goes?
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I am noticing that it particularly does it when I click the Windows (lower left) hard button on the front. I'm thinking it is related to a problem with that button.
Could be when you press that button you are flexing the cable enough to make it lose connection and go white -- this could be good news -- there are instructions scattered in this forum on how to take the phone apart. I'd recommend doing that and makeing sure the cable is firmly seated -- you should also inspect it for cracks.
Hopefully it's just a loose cable and making sure its in all the way will fix it -- if not you'll have to track down a new one.
Thanks. I'll do some searching for those instructions.
In the meantime, I called HTC just to get their thoughts on repair. First thing they told me was to upgrade the rom to the latest which is 3.57.502.2 .
I haven't been following ROM discussions. I need to check that out too. I wish I had seen or thought of that before I just spent a day with the hard reset/reinstall
did this get resolved?
I have the same issue. was it the ribbon cable?
update. I loaded a stock rom, and this appears to have solved the fade to white
Sorry...beeen away a bit.
I have not resolved the issue. It is intermittent, and hasn't happened for a few days now.
I searched and have found some instructions about taking the screen apart, but have not tackled that yet.
In my case I can't imagine changing roms making any difference, as I've had this rom for many months and it is just recently starting this.
I have found new LCD screens for this for ~ $30. I'm wondering if replacing the screen may be an ultimate solution or, if it is possible/likely that it is somethign else hardware related.
Been busy, and don't have the tools yet, so it may be a bit (or when it goes permanenly white forcing action) before I get any further on this.
It is definitely a hardware issue, my wife's tilt did the same thing, then it went permanent white. I first took it all apart looking for a bad ribbon cable or connection because it had taken a few good falls. But that was not it. So I bought a screen for about 30.00 online and shazam that was it!
Thanks for that info. I was thinking of ordering the screen, but concerned it could be something other than the screen (even though logically it would make sense that it is the screen.)

[Q] Unresponsive Touchscreen?

Hello my fellow android hackers, I need your help. Recently, my touchscreen has been completely unresponsive at the top of the screen, near the notifications bar area, but three times as thick. The problem with this (Besides having to go to my homescreen every time I need to access my notifications, or having to go into landscape mode) is that It often renders my phone useless. Often times when I select an object or slide across homescreens, the UI will select an object at the top of the screen. Shortly after, I will be unable to select anything on the screen, and if I try, the UI will select something at the top of the screen and will begin erratic movements around the homescreens, web browser, and almost any touchscreen interaction. This movement will occur whenever I try to interact with the phone's touchscreen whenever it is in this state.
This is not native to any rom, I've tried reflashing and trying many different roms. I know the touchscreen malfunction is native to the hardware, since I've tried reflashing the 2.xx.x.x.xx.6 and the 2.xx.x.x.xx.5 ruu. I think I will need to replace the touchscreen, so could anyone direct me to where to buy the part, a website to install the part, or both. I'm pretty sure I can find how to install the part, just not where to get it. Also, I'm not sure if it's a problem with the inner or outer lcd screen.
ANYWAYS, this problem is more common with the HTC Hero GSM, but HTC has said that some hero's have bad touchscreens.
Heres a link to a video demonstrating the problem. (I am running CM 6.0.0 test 2, it's a great rom)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ORe2rjWt7A&feature=related
This is with the hero cdma, but the broken area is on the side of the screen, not top.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYQnCOAtTLs&feature=related
This is to the GSM hero, but the issue is with the bottom of the screen.
This is a problem native to the HARDWARE, and occurred during normal use of the phone, just shortly after watching youtube videos and browsing the web.
Could anyone even direct me to a location to get this repaired, since the Sprint store said there was no way to fix it, but online many people had this issue and got it repaired by HTC customer care. Could anyone confirm this, or state the time length of a cdma sprint hero warranty purchased from Sprint in the US?
(Occassionally the phone works, but only for a short while and then It starts acting up again, usally during data use, like web browsing or using several apps)
Any help would be appreciated.
Is it humid where you live? Do you use a screen protector?
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
Yes, it is humid, and I don't use a screen protector. I think the processor was overheating during heavy use (watching video, etc) and I left the screen on for a while. I think that this damaged the screen.
Have you tried a different rom, or maybe flashing one of the new any kernels for your current rom? Almost sounds like it could be a driver issue. I did have a friend that had this problem on his stock hero, and sprint replaced it for him. If you ruu and it still does it, make a scene, they will replace it.
had the same problem with my hero, unresponsive directly below notification bar, as well as becoming completely useless randomly. took it into sprint, and the tech seemed to know exactly what the problem was. an hour later, it was fixed as well as my peeling buttons replaced...free. apparently the touch sensor was going out and it must happen more often than not considering the tech new what the issue was immediately.
Ok, I will not start another rant and rave I promise, BUT, I will say be very careful going to Sprint with a problem. I just had the same exact problem, I had to go to FOUR different stores, and finally instead of fixing my SPOTLESS Hero, they ordered me a "new" one, it has scratches all over the screen, the back cover hangs off, my hardware buttons(home,menu,ect...)are lose, and the metal where the ear speaker is is sticking out, be very careful dealing with sprint.Oh, yes this all happened in the last 4 days, they didnt give me a loner phone, and it took me 3 days to get this piece of **** they call a new phone. Just my experience.

[Hardware] G1 screen issue

Greetings,
When I would try and wake my G1, the screen would not always turn on. I would have to go through the process of hitting end, flipping the screen open while hitting menu repeatedly. Sometimes it would work, mostly not. If I waked the phone, with or without the screen turning on, I could use the touchscreen. Wasn't entirely sure what I was doing of course.
Another issue was the screen "dying" while awake. Example: using navigation and the color and light would drain off the screen.
So all of this leads me to believe that there is something wrong with the cable that connects the screen to the phone body. Has anyone opened up the phone and looked around inside? Would be interested in a fix so I can use it as a remote for the house haha
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
What rom are you using in your phone?
Anyway this is a software problem, no hardware.
My phone had this "problem" too with some roms.
In general I had this problem with heavy roms (for example hero roms) where swap is enable.
It did it on CM6, cm5, super d, super e, and straight up stock. Between each i would completely wipe data and cache, wipe and repair ext, wipe data again and flash.
If you believe that it is still a software problem, I have no problem trying again
EDIT: another thing is that when booting, the Tmobile G1 screen won't always show. Need to manipulate the screen to it to show.
Sent from my s=off HTC Glacier using XDA App.
If it goes on and off as you move it around on the boot/recovery screen then it is probably a hardware problem.
It's a fairly involved process to change it. You basically have do completely disassemble the phone. A little google searching can find you the factory disassembly guide (i'd post it if I knew it was ok or not).
No worries about posting a link
I'll give it a go! Thanks for the tip good sir. Will post results once I get around to it
Cheers
Sent from my s=off HTC Glacier using XDA App.
Just want to mention that I'm having a very similar problem with a second-hand G1. Just as the OP did, I tried several different ROMs to see if it was a software issue (stock, CyanogenMod 5, Froyo for Trout, now on TheOfficial DS). An additional symptom that mine is suffering is that the screen tends to go blank if the keyboard is flipped open quickly, which contributes to the "hardware problem" theory.
At some point in the near future I'm going to have a go at it using the service manual. Sorry can't post URLs... it's http colon slash slash mikechannon dot net/PDF Manuals/HTC%20Dream%20SM%20%28A04%29.pdf
I don't have big hands so the G1 is the perfect size phone for me...hoping to get this working reliably and then to hand off my Motorola Milestone to the husband, that thing is humongous to me. (Ironically spouse is an engineer with a Master's degree and a lot of experience with electronics but I do all the phone maintenance.)
After some minor surgery, seems OK now
I went up to "disconnect the display FPC" step on page 32 of the service manual. Then I reassembled the phone while trying to make sure that all the cables were plugged in as tightly as possible. It's rather fiddly so please make sure you have good fine manual control. (This was my first time disassembling a phone.) The "screen blanking" problem seems to be cured now although I am trying to be gentle when opening/closing the keyboard. At least it doesn't randomly go blank by itself any more.
My father had given me a set of electronic screwdriver bits for Chinese New Year, perfect timing, thanks Pa You will need the Torx 5 and 6 and a Philips 0 bit. I also used the flathead bits as levers as I didn't have the plastic lever in the official HTC manual, so the edges of the housing are a bit ugly now
Well done! I will give that a go! Congrats on getting yours working. If I remember to actually try, I'll post my results.
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