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Huge problem!!!

I recieved my tilt from Amazon roughly aweek ago. Everything was going fine up until not to long ago. The screen stopped registering any screen taps from the stylus or my finger while everything else worked just fine. I reset the unit a few times hoping to resolve the issue. Nothing. THEN I made the big mistake of hard resetting the unit. Now i get to the calibration screen and no further. Anyone got any ideas? Any idea where I can take this to get looked at? i was contemplating sending it to Amazon as defective but ive already flashed the HTC Rom to it shortly after recieving it. Am I completely screwed? Help!!

hollowground said:
I recieved my tilt from Amazon roughly aweek ago. Everything was going fine up until not to long ago. The screen stopped registering any screen taps from the stylus or my finger while everything else worked just fine. I reset the unit a few times hoping to resolve the issue. Nothing. THEN I made the big mistake of hard resetting the unit. Now i get to the calibration screen and no further. Anyone got any ideas? Any idea where I can take this to get looked at? i was contemplating sending it to Amazon as defective but ive already flashed the HTC Rom to it shortly after recieving it. Am I completely screwed? Help!!
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you could try reflashing the original ROM

Yeah, I tried that shortly after making my original post. Still nothing. I'm curious if the cable for the digitizer came loose somehow (no idea how though) or if it is an actual hard ware issue.
I thought something was wierd when it was working though. When I used the stylus the taps were very inaccurate recently. More so towards the upper hight hand corner of the screen. Calibrated it a few times hoping to correct it but it was always slightly off still. Then it just stopped working all together.I thought it had something to do with my screen protector but after removal was still a no go.
Luckily I am still able to make phone calls thanks to the slide out keyboard. Not sure if it rings or anything when I recieve one though. Still stuck at the calibration screen Any other ideas?
What size star key is needed to disassemble the tilt/tytn II? I may try taking a look inside to see whats up.

hollowground said:
Yeah, I tried that shortly after making my original post. Still nothing. I'm curious if the cable for the digitizer came loose somehow (no idea how though) or if it is an actual hard ware issue.
I thought something was wierd when it was working though. When I used the stylus the taps were very inaccurate recently. More so towards the upper hight hand corner of the screen. Calibrated it a few times hoping to correct it but it was always slightly off still. Then it just stopped working all together.I thought it had something to do with my screen protector but after removal was still a no go.
Luckily I am still able to make phone calls thanks to the slide out keyboard. Not sure if it rings or anything when I recieve one though. Still stuck at the calibration screen Any other ideas?
What size star key is needed to disassemble the tilt/tytn II? I may try taking a look inside to see whats up.
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If you're stuck at the calibration screen after a hard reset, how are you able to receive calls? Surely the reset hasn't completed?!?
Also, if you have reflashed to the original ROM, and thats now stuck also, then it has least got the correct ROM image on the device, thus allowing you to return it for a replacement.
Still a little confused about how you're able to use it at all though...

i honestly though it wierd myself. after flashing back to the original rom. at the calibration screen if i slide out the keyboard, press the talk button , close then reopen the keyboard, it lets me dial out using the number keys on the keyboard.
I can actually make out the home page behind the calibration screen as the screen reorientates itself.
edited Well I've no idea what just happened but the screen just stared working again out of the blue. My dog jumped on the bed n stepped on it ant the cursor moved. Very weird. Damn I'm lucky. lol Thanks for the input guys. Lets just hope it doesn't happen again XD

return it ..

kash04 said:
return it ..
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I agree, sounds like a loose connection somewhere

Could be grit between the screen and frame
One of my friends had an XDA Orbit and he had this problem. It turned out it was a crumb or piece of grit wedged between the frame of the phone and the screen causing the screen to be permanently pressed at that point. He used some fine implement (maybe a pin - can't remember) to dig it out. If this was the problem with your phone that may explain why it suddenly started working viz the bit of grit became dislodged by itself.
Cheers,
Ashley

hollowground said:
i My dog jumped on the bed n stepped on it ant the cursor moved. Very weird. Damn I'm lucky. lol Thanks for the input guys. Lets just hope it doesn't happen again XD
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Thats doggone lucky!! Just another reason to have a dog around...

After searching for answers... Screen taps not responding

Hi there. I picked up an important call whilst in the shower. Very little water fell on my Kaiser but I belive that this caused the screen to stop working. Or I have dropped it as well.
Now I tried the business card remove dust particle trick. Didn't work. So I disabled cube / Touchflo. Then I reinstalled my ROM. Basically, I can't align the screen... I tried using the Remote Screen Alignment tool as well.
What's weird is that when you leave the phone for a couple of seconds, the battery conservation feature kicks, and when I touch the screen, the screen powers back up. So I know the screen works but just not properly.
Do I have to replace my screen (or just the TOUCH component of it)? I'm not too good with hardware but can I take it apart and fix the problems?
EDIT: For those facing similar problems, use the trial version of SOTI Pocket Controller to work on your Kaiser remotely.

I'm sure someone knows what to do... please help.

I had the exact same issues you were having, I had to send it in finally so I hope it is warrantied.

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I had the exact same issues you were having, I had to send it in finally so I hope it is warrantied.
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nope, its out of warranty. I'm thinking of using pocketpctechs or some other similar service. Any suggestions?

I would just order a new screen and replace it yourself.

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I would just order a new screen and replace it yourself.
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Did they replace the entire screen or jus the TOUCH component? I heard that the TOUCH surface is way cheaper.
Also, I'm not too sure how to replace it myself.

when my tilt was in warranty they just gave a new device but on the call they said the screen was dead even though it displayed and had minimal responce.
I could be wrong but I don't think it would be easy (if even possible) to replace just the touch surface of the screen.

Screen-> Fade to White-> Temporarily

From what I've been able to find from searching, I think my Tilt is about to bite the dust, but thougth I'd post the symptoms and see if anyone has any good info.
My screen has been occasionally fading to white. Not sure how else to describe it. It just sort of starts getting white, and within 2-3 seconds will be completely white. It is still working, that is, I can place a call (using MS Voice Command); I can play music.
I have SPB Mobile Shell on it, and a button assigned to go to the home screen. I can press that, and it will go to the home screen and display normally. If it is a hardware problem, I find it interesting that I can go back to the main screen. I suspect it is close to gone.
Any thoughts?
If so, anyone know what it costs to repair, and where to do that?

Sounds like a software thing to me, I hate to say it but try a hard reset. Do you have a 6.5 rom?

I've been thinking of doing a hard reset anyway, My memory is about used up. I'm not quite sure why. Probably should get it cleaned up.
No, I'm not on 6.5. I've been reluctant to make the move. I did some rom updates some time ago, and then the person working it decided to stop. I decided to stay with MFGR based roms after that.

ewingr said:
I've been thinking of doing a hard reset anyway, My memory is about used up. I'm not quite sure why. Probably should get it cleaned up.
No, I'm not on 6.5. I've been reluctant to make the move. I did some rom updates some time ago, and then the person working it decided to stop. I decided to stay with MFGR based roms after that.
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Good thinking.

Likely NOT software but hardware -- could be the screen is going bad, or perhaps just the ribbon cable than connects the screen is broken or not seated properly.

burtcom said:
Likely NOT software but hardware -- could be the screen is going bad, or perhaps just the ribbon cable than connects the screen is broken or not seated properly.
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So the hardware problem is just scared of the button he has assigned?
I have SPB Mobile Shell on it, and a button assigned to go to the home screen. I can press that, and it will go to the home screen and display normally.
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Try putting the phone in the bootloader screen and let it sit there, that should let it go around the software.

Erm, yeah -- I guess that wouldn't be indicative of a hardware problem

Well, I am doing the hard reset. So far, no white.
Hmmm...lordy...I have a lot of stuff I try to put on this phone.
I wonder how much memory, both types, I need to keep available.

Don't put anything on the phone that you REALLY REALLY don't need. This is a taste phase and you need the least amount of BS on there.

Well, I've got most of what I need loaded, and have 61MB storage, and 63MB of Program memory free. Much better than before.
But I am still getting the fade to white occasionally.
I'm thinking hardware.
Anyone know if checking the 'ribbon' cable is user capable thing? I don't see it easily. I'll so some searching in the meantime.
Also, any feedback on cost and where for a new screen? Or do I just trash it when it finally goes?
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I am noticing that it particularly does it when I click the Windows (lower left) hard button on the front. I'm thinking it is related to a problem with that button.

Could be when you press that button you are flexing the cable enough to make it lose connection and go white -- this could be good news -- there are instructions scattered in this forum on how to take the phone apart. I'd recommend doing that and makeing sure the cable is firmly seated -- you should also inspect it for cracks.
Hopefully it's just a loose cable and making sure its in all the way will fix it -- if not you'll have to track down a new one.

Thanks. I'll do some searching for those instructions.
In the meantime, I called HTC just to get their thoughts on repair. First thing they told me was to upgrade the rom to the latest which is 3.57.502.2 .
I haven't been following ROM discussions. I need to check that out too. I wish I had seen or thought of that before I just spent a day with the hard reset/reinstall

did this get resolved?
I have the same issue. was it the ribbon cable?
update. I loaded a stock rom, and this appears to have solved the fade to white

Sorry...beeen away a bit.
I have not resolved the issue. It is intermittent, and hasn't happened for a few days now.
I searched and have found some instructions about taking the screen apart, but have not tackled that yet.
In my case I can't imagine changing roms making any difference, as I've had this rom for many months and it is just recently starting this.
I have found new LCD screens for this for ~ $30. I'm wondering if replacing the screen may be an ultimate solution or, if it is possible/likely that it is somethign else hardware related.
Been busy, and don't have the tools yet, so it may be a bit (or when it goes permanenly white forcing action) before I get any further on this.

It is definitely a hardware issue, my wife's tilt did the same thing, then it went permanent white. I first took it all apart looking for a bad ribbon cable or connection because it had taken a few good falls. But that was not it. So I bought a screen for about 30.00 online and shazam that was it!

Thanks for that info. I was thinking of ordering the screen, but concerned it could be something other than the screen (even though logically it would make sense that it is the screen.)

[Q] Touch screen dead spots

This may be a problem beyond the scope of android, but seeing as I'm running it, I thought I'd try here first.
I've noticed that the lower left hand side of my screen has a "dead spot" where touch is simply not registered. To illustrate, I went to screen calibration's test screen and drew a straight line along the edge of the screen. (See Attachment)
I've tried recalibrating the screen (manually and resetting to default calibration) as well as wiping data and reinstalling the system. Reinstalling the system worked once, but then the problem came back and subsequent reinstalls did not fix the issue.
I'm running Incubus26jc super froyo [RLS 12] on the 15-07-10 340X480 Froyo Kernel.
Anyone else seen anything like this? As far as I can tell, the problem is not getting any worse. Currently, it's only a hindrance when trying to use keys in that region, but I can work around it by switching to and from landscape. It's a bit of a hassle, so I'm hoping someone may be able to shed some light on the situation.
I was sure it was hardware until the system reinstall fixed it, but am now baffled as I can no longer replicate the fix.
I have not tried reinstalling the kernel but will at some point in the next day or so. I'd like to avoid switching back to WM to check if the problem persists, but may have to... we'll see. Doing everything I can to make this phone last until the Incredible month of February when I'm up for an upgrade.

dont know the issue resolution... but i have the same with my touch vogue.. and in the same 'area' apparently as well.
hard for me to hit the 'a' key on my keyboard. hehe

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one... anyone else?

Bottom right corner for me... I was able to calibrate around it but it took a few tries.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

The sensitivity across my screen was inconsistent some time ago. I found that years of my abuse had taken a tole on the exterior of my phone. It eventually got worse and I bought a new housing (with a new digitizer) on ebay for a reasonable price. If it is hardware then it really isn't that hard to fix if you like taking things apart.
If you're sure that win mo accepts input from that part of the screen then nevermind my post. I would play with a painting app though and investigate the hardware further.
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
In any case, my investment in a hew housing was well worth it considering how modern my old phone has become thanks to the developers here.

gooph said:
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
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In my case, no - when drawing a straight line down or across the screen, the line starts 'moving' away from the stylus (like the picture in the OP).

Gah... now it's shutting itself off randomly and the dead spot has grown. Not good at all.

Yeah, mine was better for a while then 'slid' again. I ended up swapping the digitizer with my other Vogue and things are back to normal.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

I have another vogue, but am weary of doing anything like that. How hard was it to get done?

All you need to do is switch the front half of the housing rather than the digitizer itself- it's not hard. There's a teardown guide somewhere in the forum, Google Vogue teardown and it should be at the top.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

The only thing that worries me is that my spare vogue exists because it was dropped in a muddy puddle. I'm hoping the water damage isn't too bad. Guess we'll just have to see.

it is really annoying
I have the exact same problem and I too thought it was a hardware issue till I saw this Thread. I was ignoring it till two days ago when it started really bugging me. Now, I don't even need to press any button and it automatically gets pressed around the curve and I have a google search box there, so it keeps on searching for eee or sss randomly and started draining my battery. Is there a proper fix for this?

I thought I'd chime in too... I could never seem to calibrate the touchscreen properly in either Android or Debian. Changing the screen resolution (i.e. msmfb scaling) seems to have no effect, whether it's 240x320 or 640x480. Any area within 5mm or so of the edges of the LCD will register as the edge, making "A" and several other keys on the virtual keyboard impossible to hit. Passing calibration values to the kernel didn't seem to fix anything, but it's possible I was using them the wrong way...

i have the same kind of problem on my Kaiser... i think its realted to hardware... either the housing or the digitizer...

I am experiencing the same problem on X10 mini pro. the same screen spot exactly, i have to try very hard to get z or x or shift to work. Sometimes when I try locking the screen and unlocking it back, it works.

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so after a very long time with this problem i decided to change the digitizer and problem is gonne. visualy the broken digitizer had nothing wrong with it. The fix was fairly easy though, there is no glued parts involved into getting a new digitizer on the u20i.

Touch Screen
I just bought a brand new Cubot One and it looks more than perfect! It has just a little problem with the touch screen ( I think its the software, need ROM change). There is a dead line on the right side of the screen that touch doesn't work at all. Any solutions? Anyone faced that before? Can I fix it myself or do I have to send it back for replacement? Is there any video or guide that shows its done?
I uploaded a video on YouTube to show the problem but i cant post it yet.. (new member)
You can write "Cubot One touch screen problem" and it's the 1st one.
Thank You!

Screen Flickering

Hey guys
I have a very strange problem with my Huawei P10
About 2 weeks ago, I noticed that two purple horizontal stripes are appearing in a 3-4sec sequence
Normally, I would immediately ask for a repair, but there's a thing which persecutes me: it only happens when I don't touch the screen for longer than 3-4sec
When there's a continuous contact with the screen (e.g when writing a message) nothing happens, everything is fine and dandy, but whenever I leave the screen for itself for 3 or more seconds (e.g when watching a movie), the stripes start to appear every few seconds, and continue until the screen goes dark or until I touch it again, but after touching it it still takes only a few seconds for the stripes to sequentially flicker again
Here's what I've tried so far (no result):
- safe mode
- factory reset
- cache partition wiping
- cord input deep clean
What may be the reason?

Hey.
It's 100% a board or Display issue. send it for repairs. but i believe maybe you've dropped ur phone. Anyways Huawei knows better.

Erfan_rv said:
Hey.
It's 100% a board or Display issue. send it for repairs. but i believe maybe you've dropped ur phone. Anyways Huawei knows better.
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It's quite complicated
I once dropped it, but even after that, the previous LCD worked fine, there were no errors other than broken glass, so I guess we could exclude a board issue and lean toward your second option, as now that the LCD has been replaced, the fault occurs
What's more, I noticed that if I press the Home Key, and then put my finger in the bottom right corner and hold it, I can still use the whole LCD space without the flickering (I need to press the Home Key first so that it works after I hold my finger in the corner)
It's like the LCD needs to be in contact with your finger all the time to avoid that, which has led me to an idea: would a tempered glass solve that maybe?

fengels said:
It's quite complicated
I once dropped it, but even after that, the previous LCD worked fine, there were no errors other than broken glass, so I guess we could exclude a board issue and lean toward your second option, as now that the LCD has been replaced, the fault occurs
What's more, I noticed that if I press the Home Key, and then put my finger in the bottom right corner and hold it, I can still use the whole LCD space without the flickering (I need to press the Home Key first so that it works after I hold my finger in the corner)
It's like the LCD needs to be in contact with your finger all the time to avoid that, which has led me to an idea: would a tempered glass solve that maybe?
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I can't really answer for sure but i believe if there's a Huawei service center in your city and you try to fix ur broken huawei, your wasting your time. Whatever solution u apply on ur phone its just gonna be temporary since u hide your problem and not solved it.

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I can't really answer for sure but i believe if there's a Huawei service center in your city and you try to fix ur broken huawei, your wasting your time. Whatever solution u apply on ur phone its just gonna be temporary since u hide your problem and not solved it.
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I still think (or should I say believe ) that there's a solution which doesn't involve another screen replacement
As for your "temporary solution" mention, I guess if I found one, it wouldn't be temporary, since the fault doesn't progress, it's been the same for a month or so when it first occured, which gives me another reason not to replace the screen and keep looking for other possibilities
I don't need a Huawei service center, I can replace the LCD myself (didn't do that the first time though), but it still involves spending money, whereas I've been looking for unpaid solutions the whole time; getting a new LCD is an extremity

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I still think (or should I say believe ) that there's a solution which doesn't involve another screen replacement
As for your "temporary solution" mention, I guess if I found one, it wouldn't be temporary, since the fault doesn't progress, it's been the same for a month or so when it first occured, which gives me another reason not to replace the screen and keep looking for other possibilities
I don't need a Huawei service center, I can replace the LCD myself (didn't do that the first time though), but it still involves spending money, whereas I've been looking for unpaid solutions the whole time; getting a new LCD is an extremity
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You can ask them to diagnose it and tell you about problem noone makes you pay for a lcd. And after reading your message over and over (And since i repair TVs and everything with electronics inside) i think it also can be your touch or display controller ic. Mostly it could be from touch ic since screen works fine while its in touch with something. But someone has to try your lcd or mb on a healthy one to make sure. which you can't do nothing like that. or do you?

@fengels did You bought original lcd, where can I buy it in good price?

I know this problem from older galaxy series like s5. The fix for this most of the time was disable auto brightness or higher the brightness on auto brightness. Don't know if this is the same problem, but it could be a try. Also don't know which cause this strange problem. Hope it can help you

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I know this problem from older galaxy series like s5. The fix for this most of the time was disable auto brightness or higher the brightness on auto brightness. Don't know if this is the same problem, but it could be a try. Also don't know which cause this strange problem. Hope it can help you
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No, it's a different problem, in the galaxy series the whole screen would flicker, whereas in my P10 it's only 2 horizontal stripes appearing in a 4-5 sec sequence whenever I leave the screen untouched for longer than 5sec
Playing around with the brightness doesn't solve that unfortunately, actually no in-device settings do, as I've tried almost every single option which is screen-related, like switching the eye comfort mode on, but still no result
The main reason why I'm still looking for an unpaid solution is that apart from this one error, the phone is like brand new, everything works fine

ok, so if I understad the problem shows up after you replaced the LCD display? So do you really think is more software related than hardware? I personally would send it to diagnose and repair.

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ok, so if I understad the problem shows up after you replaced the LCD display? So do you really think is more software related than hardware? I personally would send it to diagnose and repair.
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The thing is it didn't show up immediately, I had used the phone for some time with no errors before it first occured
Also, since the new LCD was set, I haven't done any physical damage to it, I've never dropped or sunk the phone
Since you guys mostly advise me to send it, I guess that's what I will have to do

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The thing is it didn't show up immediately, I had used the phone for some time with no errors before it first occured
Also, since the new LCD was set, I haven't done any physical damage to it, I've never dropped or sunk the phone
Since you guys mostly advise me to send it, I guess that's what I will have to do
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While you were replacing screen, did you turn your device off and disconnect the battery? and i think cleaning all cables coming from LCD and related sockets on motherboard can help. Use thinner or alcohol and if you wanna use thinner be careful so it wouldn't touch anything except golden contacts. Thinner is dangerous and affects ur phone color and plastic parts.

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While you were replacing screen, did you turn your device off and disconnect the battery? and i think cleaning all cables coming from LCD and related sockets on motherboard can help. Use thinner or alcohol and if you wanna use thinner be careful so it wouldn't touch anything except golden contacts. Thinner is dangerous and affects ur phone color and plastic parts.
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I did turn the device off, but I didn't take the battery off, since it's strongly glued to the phone's body, and I didn't want to damage it
Anyway, could not taking the battery off really be the reason?
As for cleaning, I did it by simply blowing out all the potential dirt, I'm inexperienced in thinner and alcohol cleaning

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I did turn the device off, but I didn't take the battery off, since it's strongly glued to the phone's body, and I didn't want to damage it
Anyway, could not taking the battery off really be the reason?
As for cleaning, I did it by simply blowing out all the potential dirt, I'm inexperienced in thinner and alcohol cleaning
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I am not sure butbon some phones it damages screen. I've seen this on laptops. But anyways its done. Open ur phone and use alcohol. put 2 drops of alcohol on each socket and flat cable connectors and brush it with a soft brush. u don't want to bent any golden contact. It's last thing u can do to fix it without paying for hardware related stuff.

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I am not sure butbon some phones it damages screen. I've seen this on laptops. But anyways its done. Open ur phone and use alcohol. put 2 drops of alcohol on each socket and flat cable connectors and brush it with a soft brush. u don't want to bent any golden contact. It's last thing u can do to fix it without paying for hardware related stuff.
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Well, will definitely try it then, but what alcohol? Does it need to be something specific?

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Well, will definitely try it then, but what alcohol? Does it need to be something specific?
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Just regular alcohol that drug stores sell. for using on injection. sorry my English is awful.