hi, does anyone know how to hard reset a t5353 Dual OS so that both Android and WM go back to factory settings?
i was able to do a reset on wm by going thru the settings and all but i'm having problems with android part of it.
HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ANDROID OS!!!
i tried to calibrate the ANDROID screen and instead my finger, i used my stylus. It picked up my stylus during calibration but after that my screen stopped responding to any touch what so ever. i can press volume, windows, back buttons (or soft keys?) etc and they work just fine showing that the OS itself is working but it's not picking up anything on the screen. Actually, i did notice that when it is about to "sleep" and the lights get "dim", me touching on the screen wakes it up... any help would be appreciated....
i have tried the two of the following available HARD REST combination - neither one worked.
i also know that the touch screen itself is working because when i boot it in WM, the screen and everything else works just fine.
i've made a post in another thread but it's under WM area and my problem is with Android (for mods, just in case they think it's double posting--i'm sorry).
more info.
here is some more stuff that i've tried with the advice from adstrylight who was kind enough to spend some time on my problem
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Android vs WM..
Which version of android do you have with your phone btw? Is it running from internal storage, or the sdcard(the easy way to tell this is if your SDcard contains a file called zimage or not)? I only ask as my phone originally came with android running from th SD, and was laggy/buggy beyond belief, and the latest version of A2.1 (the "fourth edition") is a world away in terms of stability etc.
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not sure but when it boots, it shows the android logo (monkey or bugg or whatever it is), then it shows SOHO 2, and then shows a screen with "android" written on it...
no Zimage on SDcard. My device did not come with an SD card either and there is only one slot ( that i can see ) and it has my own SD card from before (which does not contain zimage). i even did a search on my entire phone and did not find zimage.
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Don't know where this came from, but did you try pressing the zoom bar bellow where it says 'ok'? I only did this once, a long time ago, but this thought just occured to me over dinner....
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yes, that is what i though initially. I was tapping all over the screen, trying to press "zoom out", trying to slide my finger towards "zoom out". I am not sure if it responded to me pressing over "OK" on the screen or "ZOOM OUT" or "CALL BUTTON" but it rebooted and did a hard reset. I was very happy at first only to find out that it only performed a hard reset on WM [very disappointing].
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no Zimage on SDcard. My device did not come with an SD card either and there is only one slot ( that i can see ) and it has my own SD card from before (which does not contain zimage). i even did a search on my entire phone and did not find zimage.
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I think, this device not use zImage and use bootloader.
DmK75 said:
I think, this device not use zImage and use bootloader.
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i'm not sure what that means... someone asked me in a different post if there was an external SD with a file named zimage... and my answer was that the device itself did not come with an SD card, i installed my own and it does NOT have zimage file.
thanks in advance for anyone who can help.
anyone? i'd really appreciate any ideas.
It could mean that you have a very different setup, or perhaps that it's an Android OS clone. Are you able to install apps through Android Market place ?
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It could mean that you have a very different setup, or perhaps that it's an Android OS clone. Are you able to install apps through Android Market place ?
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i "was" able to download apps from market place but since the screen does not respond to me "touching an icon", i cant really do much (nothing at all).
NOTE: the screen does however respond when the back light turns dim, me touching the screen wakes it up.
Mann i don't understand how no one knows the answer. All the hackers and crackers making big softwares available to everyone, and no one knows why android OS is not responding to touch????
a_sun_of_beach said:
Mann i don't understand how no one knows the answer. All the hackers and crackers making big softwares available to everyone, and no one knows why android OS is not responding to touch????
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Pardon?! You own a freaking clone which probably nobody else outside china owns and you are requesting any in deep assistance when nobody has the slightest knowledge about these fancy copy&paste devices?
Form you descriptions though, just to get that right... you had to calibrate your screen where you had to touch the 5 white boxes? If your Android installation is somehow a copy of the XDANDROID system which contains the touchscreen calibration app, then look for a file called "ts-calibration" on your device. Delete it and reboot into Android. (However that is done your device.)
Michael
mweirauch said:
Pardon?! You own a freaking clone which probably nobody else outside china owns and you are requesting any in deep assistance when nobody has the slightest knowledge about these fancy copy&paste devices?
Form you descriptions though, just to get that right... you had to calibrate your screen where you had to touch the 5 white boxes? If your Android installation is somehow a copy of the XDANDROID system which contains the touchscreen calibration app, then look for a file called "ts-calibration" on your device. Delete it and reboot into Android. (However that is done your device.)
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1. thank you very much for your response. i will try to find the ts-calibration file and give it a try. i can upload the "rom" online, it says SOHO 2 when it's loading (if that helps?)
2. i think this device reboots like my samsung galaxy s, press and hold POWER and it asks you if you want to go in flight mode, power off etc.
i looked for this file, i actually did a search through my computer to see if i could find the "ts-calibration" but did not find it.
in WM section (using Resco Reg), i found a few .DLL files that had the word "touch" in them. One was "TouchRecognizer" and one was "touch.dll". i'm not sure which one exactly, but there were a few #s that changed after i did a caliberation ( on WM ). Is there a file in Android that's like that, maybe i could just copy those #s from WM into the .dll or something for Android?
thanks again for taking time to help.
No, you can't copy windows DLL to Android. I assume the only chance you have is searching the net, or some dedicated clone forums for the answer on how to reset your android installation.
Sent from my MSM using XDA App
a_sun_of_beach said:
i "was" able to download apps from market place but since the screen does not respond to me "touching an icon", i cant really do much (nothing at all).
NOTE: the screen does however respond when the back light turns dim, me touching the screen wakes it up.
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Perhaps there is simply no Android?
DmK75 said:
Perhaps there is simply no Android?
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i hope that the android i messed around with when i first received the phone, and saw all the setting etc was not an illusion? how can there be no android in it?
http://www.moon0755.com/
a_sun_of_beach said:
i hope that the android i messed around with when i first received the phone, and saw all the setting etc was not an illusion? how can there be no android in it?
http://www.moon0755.com/
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I want to say, no working android.
Read and search in this topic, and you find custom roms.
Even with updated to 2.1 system.bin and data.bin android files.
DmK75 said:
I want to say, no working android.
Read and search in this topic, and you find custom roms.
Even with updated to 2.1 system.bin and data.bin android files.
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thank you for your help. I have already been talking to some people in the link you just posted.
I've solved my issue by simply re-flashing it.
Thanks everyone who responded.
Related
Tried to search about it but i couldnt find anything usefull.
When i try to copy (i drag n drop to memory card) its not able to copy files that are bigger the ~100MB.
The file im trying to copy is 184,4MB and it stops without any erros after about 75% and then retrys again n again in a endless loop(i think. i have not verifyed the endless part ).
Have anyone else had this problem and how did you fix it??
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Tried to search about it but i couldnt find anything usefull.
When i try to copy (i drag n drop to memory card) its not able to copy files that are bigger the ~100MB.
The file im trying to copy is 184,4MB and it stops without any erros after about 75% and then retrys again n again in a endless loop(i think. i have not verifyed the endless part ).
Have anyone else had this problem and how did you fix it??
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i'd suggest that u take the card out of the phone, and using and sd card reader copy the stuff directly in ur desktop, and put the sd card back in the phone. it will be waaaaay faster this way, anyway
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Tried to search about it but i couldnt find anything usefull.
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Is this useful enough for you Copying large files using Activesync to Kaiser SD card issues..
Been there, done that
PS It'd help our cause if you complain to HTC about it. They seem to go by the old 'we'll only fix it when we've received lots of complaints about it' philosophy
PPS Are you aware that there may be a slightly newer HTC ROM available (with a better Radio) for your device (assuming it's HTC branded)?
Thanks for all the help
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Is this useful enough for you Copying large files using Activesync to Kaiser SD card issues..
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Did not see that one and it seems that theres no cure for it, yet.
PS It'd help our cause if you complain to HTC about it. They seem to go by the old 'we'll only fix it when we've received lots of complaints about it' philosophy
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I would do it, If i knew where/how to do it.
PPS Are you aware that there may be a slightly newer HTC ROM available (with a better Radio) for your device (assuming it's HTC branded)?
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That i didnt know but im glad to hear that.
What ROM, and by who, would that be?
Im new to the PPC world n really dont now all the lingo yet. For the moment im trying (w/o success) to make a backup of the phone. As soon as i have made a backup i will start flashing/testing ROMs.
Maybe some solutions
This as worked for some people, but not for me.
Go to start>settings>connections>USB toPC> tick disk drive.
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And i found this on another site
This is a bug of progress bar, however filetransfer works, you have just to wait a lot..
oic, so looks deceive! The large file actually copied/transferred correctly. Good info.
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Its not a HTC or Kaiser problem
Its a ActiveSync problem/bug.
If you Google this
Copying large files using Activesync -xda
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you will see all types of phones.
The copying will be done but it will take ALOT of time before its finnished.
To verify that i installed the WinCE plugin for Total Commander and copyed via it. There i see the progressbar moving as it should, but really slow.
I just copyed the 184,4MB without any problems, it just took 20 minutes.
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Did not see that one and it seems that theres no cure for it, yet.
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It's only a cosmetic indication problem, the files will still get through - eventually. The only thing slower is HTCs eagerness to fix the problem.
What ROM, and by who, would that be?
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I'm just referring to the standard latest ROM released by HTC, the manufacturer of the 'generic' (HTC Branded) TyTN II. It's nice and easy to upgrade with it and running one program does it all.
Im new to the PPC world n really dont now all the lingo yet. For the moment im trying (w/o success) to make a backup of the phone. As soon as i have made a backup i will start flashing/testing ROMs.
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Think of the Kaiser as a little like one of those desktop PCs that comes from a mega-corporate supplier and has a hidden recovery partition on the hard disk drive. It's even easier with the Kaiser though because you dont need to have a recovery CDROM to start the process, you just run the Clear Storage Memory function and it clears things up, back to like new (well at least the latest ROM that was loaded). If you're new here, it's worth reading the wiki - certainly before you do any flashing.
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Its a ActiveSync problem/bug.
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The problem is that Microsoft wont take feedback directly from end users on this but only from their direct customers, the OEMs who make the Pocket PCs so we have to complain to them.
At least we know that its working, sort of...
If you're new here, it's worth reading the wiki - certainly before you do any flashing
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I have been reading and reading about 3-4 weeks now and im getting there.
I see Windows Mobile as a funny combination of Win95 OSR2 and some NT4.
The OS is as buggy as Win95 and the file structure is almost the same.
Im guessing the filesystem is FAT16 with the same fragmentation problems.
Same idiotical problems, install one thing to get something else stop working.
But at the same time alot of the programs are standalone so im building a program folder on my SDcard so when i do a hardreset i just have to copy the shortcuts to my start-menu and i have about 40 programs ready to be used.
I use Card Export to convert the phone into a card reader. Solved my problems of large file (like movies) transfers.
What the hell is wrong with these phones? Is is so hard for the manufacturer to provide a simple freakin fix for weather locations. Oh hey, my town not on the list, so I shall try and hack the stupid files to get my city. Now my phone don't work, thanks. Tried using a patch to hack the HTCHome.dll and installed it, and guess what, my phone is screwed up. It locks at start and I can't even use it. Way to go!!!! Can't someone have a file that just has United States cities in it instead of all these crap countries that I don't even give a damn what the weather is for some off the wall country in South Africa???? Yes, I am sorry that I pissed, but I can't use my phone now. Any ideas?
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What the hell is wrong with these phones? Is is so hard for the manufacturer to provide a simple freakin fix for weather locations. Oh hey, my town not on the list, so I shall try and hack the stupid files to get my city. Now my phone don't work, thanks. Tried using a patch to hack the HTCHome.dll and installed it, and guess what, my phone is screwed up. It locks at start and I can't even use it. Way to go!!!! Can't someone have a file that just has United States cities in it instead of all these crap countries that I don't even give a damn what the weather is for some off the wall country in South Africa???? Yes, I am sorry that I pissed, but I can't use my phone now. Any ideas?
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Was there a question in there or was it just a general rant about the phones , that the rest of us seem to have no trouble using, and the rest of the " crap countries " ( of which hundreds are represented on this site ) other than the U.S.......... Ugly Americans.....why would anyone call us that ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392644
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What the hell is wrong with these phones? Is is so hard for the manufacturer to provide a simple freakin fix for weather locations. Oh hey, my town not on the list, so I shall try and hack the stupid files to get my city. Now my phone don't work, thanks. Tried using a patch to hack the HTCHome.dll and installed it, and guess what, my phone is screwed up. It locks at start and I can't even use it. Way to go!!!! Can't someone have a file that just has United States cities in it instead of all these crap countries that I don't even give a damn what the weather is for some off the wall country in South Africa???? Yes, I am sorry that I pissed, but I can't use my phone now. Any ideas?
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If you can't get into the phone at all then it's time for a hard reset.
I have done a hard reset and the phone still does nothing. Only way I could fix it was to reflash my phone. Now I got my phone working, but sorta sucked that I had to do this because of a stupid file. I am sorry if I said anything wrong, but this weather thing is really starting to get under my skin. I have looked all over this forum and did everything that the guides tell me, and I still can't get this stupid phone to work right. Plus it don't help that I can't even replace the HTChome.dll because the stupid file permissions. I have tried to use Total Commander and still it keeps changing itself back to read only and system file, etc. I can't overwrite the file, I can't delete, I can't do anything with it. I have downloaded a modded HTChome.dll file, but what good is it when I can't even get it on my phone. And if I try the other way, where I mod the file using the tools and then install the cab it creates, that causes the phone to endless reboot or just hangs up after it gets to the home screen. So then I have to re-flash the phone again to make it work. I am using WM 6.1 HTC stock rom, so what I'm I doing wrong?
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I have done a hard reset and the phone still does nothing. Only way I could fix it was to reflash my phone. Now I got my phone working, but sorta sucked that I had to do this because of a stupid file. I am sorry if I said anything wrong, but this weather thing is really starting to get under my skin. I have looked all over this forum and did everything that the guides tell me, and I still can't get this stupid phone to work right. Plus it don't help that I can't even replace the HTChome.dll because the stupid file permissions. I have tried to use Total Commander and still it keeps changing itself back to read only and system file, etc. I can't overwrite the file, I can't delete, I can't do anything with it. I have downloaded a modded HTChome.dll file, but what good is it when I can't even get it on my phone. And if I try the other way, where I mod the file using the tools and then install the cab it creates, that causes the phone to endless reboot or just hangs up after it gets to the home screen. So then I have to re-flash the phone again to make it work. I am using WM 6.1 HTC stock rom, so what I'm I doing wrong?
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flash to a 6.5 rom.
What happened when you followed the link that I gave you ?
Well, I did go to the link, thank you btw. But still had issues.
1) Disable HTC Home from today screen
2) Unzip the attached file, then copy it to the windows directory <---won't let me
3) Soft Reset
4) Enabled HTC Home
If you cannot overwrite HTChome.dll, then use use totalcommander or some other file explorer and rename the existing one HTChome.old, and then copy the new file to the windows folder and soft reset, should work like a charm. <---Did that and still can't rename or overwrite the file. It renames it self back and changes its permissions back to original.
Since I installed the new HTC Home 2.1 etc, then also reloaded my M2D update 23, I have noticed another directory under root called HTC Home with similar files that are also in Windows. Now could I maybe copy a modded HTCHome.dll file to that and regedit to point to that directory. I am afraid to do anything since the phone keeps being stubborn and I have to do a complete reload if anything goes wrong. I have already reloaded this phone 6 times because of this. Thanks
Blame the weather on the ROM chefs
For all the great things the ROM chef do, putting the weather files into ROM is the only decision I feel comfortable calling into question: specifically, the XML with the cities list should be in RAM where it can be edited as needed and the dll that calls accuweather should be be in RAM too (although putting a patched version of the DLL in ROM may work with a custom xml .... I don't cook ROMS so I don't know.)
This leads to my current question:
Is it better to put certain things into ROM or is it better to have them installed upon flashing using UC or Sashimi (or some other method?)
IMHO, for the purposes of cooking my own ROM (if I ever figure it out...) I will use the latter method until I know exactly what apps I want to put into my ROM (Mobile Office, carrier-related settings, soft-reset, safe mode boot, net framework, Pandora, SOTI Pocket Controller Pro, etc) whereas my email settings, wifi network settings, BT pairings, registry entries for installed apps on my SD card, shortcuts to those programs, etc will all be done in customization after flashing.
JMOFO and my 2¢
The EasyLoaders where making it confusing, to help ou the process We'll stick all the new developments into one topic now.
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596370
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Known Issues
There could be a loss of use of the volume keys and camera
A hard reset should fix this, however this is not a guarantee
The hardware keys do not work.
Known Fixes
The touch screen is mirrored for me, hwo can I fix this. If you're running the old versions of the 2.0.1 build, this may occur. To fix this open up your startup.txt and edit the following.
mxxcon said:
modify set cmdline to have
msmts_calib=0x7a.0x37f.0x35a.0x5e
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faqs
ISSUES
Sounds good, will probably give it a try tomorrow
plz som1 try post videos or picz
S3BAZ10: It's a stock 1.6 ROM, so it looks like every other plain build
dbwun: You going to post a 2.01 package?
no ikno, imean screen shots of on da tp2 like if it works well and worth installing.
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no ikno, imean screen shots of on da tp2 like if it works well and worth installing.
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Why do you need screenshots of it on the the Touch Pro2? It looks exactly the same as it does on every other Android device, except those with customized home screens
There is a list of issues above you can use to determine if it's worth installing or not. Really, it only takes a few minutes to do. You could have found out the answers yourself in the time it took you to make both posts
Awesome!
I 'm excited about this But def going to wait for a lil more stability before i experiment
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dbwun: You going to post a 2.01 package?
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I'm ot in charge of the project, the project is basically a port from the topaz version. Once developers take hold of the project I'm sure the range of Android versions supported would increase.
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I'm ot in charge of the project, the project is basically a port from the topaz version. Once developers take hold of the project I'm sure the range of Android versions supported would increase.
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I know you're not, you just gathered and compiled the files together. If you read the thread the files came from, you'll see that some are running 2.01
Now this looks interesting ..........
I am definitely looking forward to a more stable version of this!!! I love the Android OS!
GSM over CDMA
i got this to work real easy i have the World version of the TP2 (CDMA and GSM).
the problem is that the boot-loader sees my phone as a GSM not CDMA any one have a fix? US Cellular is my carrier i have changed the PRL file and done nothing else. stock ROM winmo 6.5
hmm, doesn't seem to be working.
i get haret running, but then i get a small popup window saying
"Please set start of ram (RAMADDR)"
update:
figured it out.
modified startup.txt to include
set ramaddr 0x10000000
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hmm, doesn't seem to be working.
i get haret running, but then i get a small popup window saying
"Please set start of ram (RAMADDR)"
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here is a default file that works for the TP2
Updated file should not be mirrored any more
hmm how come your file is so different from what was in the original package?
MTYPE are different, cmdline is different..
(i'm not saying it's wrong/right, just asking why its different)
hehe so far hardware keyboard or hardware buttons don't work. touchscreen is flipped(touch left side to press right button).
i started messaging app but can't figure out how to close it looks like battery pull is the only option.
oops that was from a dif bulid uploading the right one
Edit: uploaded the right file
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hmm how come your file is so different from what was in the original package?
MTYPE are different, cmdline is different..
(i'm not saying it's wrong/right, just asking why its different)
hehe so far hardware keyboard or hardware buttons don't work. touchscreen is flipped(touch left side to press right button).
i started messaging app but can't figure out how to close it looks like battery pull is the only option.
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do you use the GSM verison or have a sim card?
if lcd.density=220 specifies DPI, then shouldn't it be 259.15?
3.6" screen with 800x480 comes out to 259.15dpi
OK, my first post so be gentle.
I have MDA Vario that has been flashed with TPCElite series V11 MEGA wm6.5 23017. It also has the touchflo GUI running. Now having tried it for a week (only just purchased it a week ago) I can say that I'm not a fan of the touchflo prog. It seems to hang on occasions and I often end up selecting something I didn't want only to find the phone connecting to the net. So I have switched it off. There is a windows default one that is working fine, but I can't see a way to customise the menu so I can add what I want to it.
So my dilemma. Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards - this way I can uninstall it if I don't like it. Or should I just leave it deselected and install a new one? Will this have any performance/memory issues - ie is the lite rom a better way to go.
I had a Mio PDA with iLauncher on it and I liked the ability to add my own shortcuts etc.
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI? Been looking at Manila 2D v2 but I want to be able to customise the main menu and I don't want it sluggish.
One final thing. Is it possible to get the phone to ask permission before connecting via gprs rather than scurrying around for the disconnect. I've looked through the menus but can't find anything. Don't mind using it if I want it, just fed up of it dialing it by mistake -(I have sausage fingers.)
i recommend the t.i.r element v5 rom. ive been thru many roms including the tpc series that you have tried and i find that t.i.r element v5 is the best w/ smooth graphics, great gui (full landscape support etc.) i cant post a link as of now since i am new to posting on xda so please look it up and give it a shot!
Is there a CLI version of a rom for this phone or is someone just trying too sound fancy? Since when is touchflu a GUI? I am totally confused.
Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards
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Uh my head is hurting make it stop.. SOMEONE REPLIED TO THIS?? awmg
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI
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I am so confused, it's like trying to mess with a womans bra (Full Landscape support) for the first time, what do I do.. do I call her new hair doo a pair of panties? AAAHHHHHHHH
Stylez close this **** down.. REASON.... Doesn't make any sense at all..
I used the GUI version of this forum to reply.. Thanks.
hi DTBrum,
touchflo - i never liked it too, don't know which files are responsible for its running and if it could be removed, seems like it's part of needed htc drivers to me, but this will switch it off completely:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000000
"EnableCube"=dword:00000000
you need a registry editor to change those values.
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you can't replace gui, or you can theoretically but what you mean is sort of launcher, or today manager. I tried more and didn't like any, they all seems to be laggy to me.
windows in default uses today screen and start menu, it's the same way as in pc edition, there are folders with shortcuts in them for start menu
look in \windows\start menu folder. and on today screen, you can set what you want to see there in settings/today
I use start replacement called quickmenu which is a very small prg with lots of tweaks.
if you don't like those fancy launchers and controls, better you make your own rom. it's very easy with tools from xda. nearly all custom roms lite or full you'll find here have some kind of launchers and today replacement already in them and it's hard to remove or disable them.
there is a lot of different apps like iLauncher, you can install/uninstall.
no one will recommend you any custom rom here, you need to go through trying one after another because everybody's preferences differs. look in wiki.
automatic connect. no, there is no way to disable this. you can use app called 'nodata' but then you'll have to run it to enable/disable every time you want to use internet. But it solves problems in roaming.
Some programs can be set to not auto dial. and another option is, you can set a fake internet connection, make it default and then when you want to go online you'll dial the real one manually. But you may find that some programs would not want to use other then default connection.
and don't get discouraged here on forum, some people are smart here, true, but not all of us here get born that way.
Thankx for the replies.
What I found with touchflo was that there are occasions where I try to scroll from left to right and nothing happens, then all of a sudden I find it has selected something like maps or internet and the phone is trying to connect to the net. Then it starts responding normally. So as a front end user interface for me I'm not that keen on it. Also I can't see a way to remove the categories sucj as maps, and add my own. I have a registry editor and will try changing the values suggested and see if that helps. I'll do a search for the other bits recommended.
Apologies ChumleyEX, not sure if I used the correct terminology. For me a program such as touchflo is an alternative GUI that sits on top of the windows GUI. Just want to know if there are better, more reliable ones. Doesn't have to be fancy. I want to be able to customise it and for it to be quick and responsive.
Sorry I'm sure I was too harsh, I was feeling a little too good last night.
No problem ChumleyEX - no harm done.
Papo - thanks for you time and help, you cleared a few things up for me. Registry edited and touchflo now disabled.
As I said I've only had this device a week and only just found this site recently, so I'm not really up on the terminology so I'm hoping you can look past my shortcomings please. I'll get there. I'm no novice with pc's or pda's but I'm not in the same league as most people on here I admit.
My question about installing an alternative to touchflo was because some of these other programs such as ilauncher like to be installed to the device memory rather than storage card. I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that. I have no option to remove touchflo.
I was hoping that by describing what I was after people would recommend something that fits the bill. But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of. There is some really nice work here on this site - so tempted to give it a go. I guess we all like different things so it's a matter of personal choice really. Key for me is functionality/responsiveness. It's no good if the interface gets in the way no matter how good it looks.
Off to read some reviews of roms on here now. I'll check out t.i.r element v5 as suggested by agent1001 first.
dude, stop fretting and just try out as many ROMs as you can...and remember to search and read a LOT! it will help in the long run to build your concepts.
i have TWO more suggestions/clarifications for you:
1. you might have big fingers, but what i suspect is that you are using your device as if it has a capacitive screen...which it doesn't. the kaiser (like many htc phones) has a resistive screen. essentially, what this means is that the screen will respond best with a good amount of pressure, applied at a point. so the best suggestion i can give you that will tremendously improve your experience with the device is...use your finger NAILS! the effect is as if you are using a stylus and once you get used to it, any "GUI" will become usable.
2. what you call a "GUI" is not a GUI, technically. this is what chumleyex was alluding to. these "GUIs" run as today screen plugins. they are just that...they are "today screen plugins"...also called "home screen" in other contexts of discussion. you can have many such plugins installed on your device. you can even have many such plugins running at once on your today screen. however, some take over the today screen completely, so you can only use them exclusively. manila2d/manila3d, spb mobile shell, and quite a few others are such kinds of today screen plugins. installing multiple such plugins only takes up storage space. RUNNING multiple such plugins is like running many applications at once...which will consume memory and may slow down the phone, etc, etc.
as always, you should have read the forum rules...which clearly state that "best of" threads or "suggest me a <insert requirement here>" style threads are against the forum rules. which leads me to believe that you probably haven't read the other "stickies" and "wikis" either. start there and then you'll find yourself asking a lot less basic questions that clutter up the forum. don't be surprised if this thread is closed soon by a forum mod. cheers.
Thanks ASCIIker - screen is more responsive with more pressure. Guess I was worried about cracking it.
I did do loads of reading before posting - mainly to do with how to, hard spl, soft spl, roms, radio threads. Sorry if I missed the bit about asking for recommendations.
DTBrum said:
I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that.
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I get the feeling that you think those fancy things in full custom ROMs are taking up space. they are not. and not using them, disabling them, or deleting shortcuts from start menu would do the same as uninstalling.
you've got:
flash memory - (ROM)
int. memory - think about it as HDD: depends, typicaly little over 100MB
RAM, operating memory, like on PC another 100MB: to be used by progs.
those names differs, to add confusion, some refers to int.memory as ROM
MS bloatware & fancy stuff from custom ROMs which you don't want could still rest in peace in ROM and not bothering you. you'll still have your 100MB int.mem. And as long as they are not actively running you still will have 100 RAM and no processor power used. but exactly like mentioned every plugin on today screen means it's running too. get an fdc task manager or alternative to see all processes and other stuff running. (not just tasks) You can find a way to disable nearly everything.
I have no option to remove touchflo.
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I don't think there is any. even with ultra lite, i could be mistaken with this, but i tried hard and it looks like it's part of required htc drivers. so you only could disable it...at least! i hated it too no matter about fingers. it seems better on htc pro2 anyway.
But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of.
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yep, the look would be the main difference i'll say.
but if you want functionality/responsiveness, than you probably better stick with using start button and today screen without unnecessary additions.
* installing on SD card means it will go much slower and (at least on my kaiser) will sometime create errors on card from crashed apps and when I dropped phone or it died w/o shutdown or when contacts on SD card get loosed. many times I even lost complete SD contents.
You have 100MB of int.mem!! it would love to be used by progs.
I suggest you to try all of available and up-to-date custom ROMs then after getting an idea of what is doing what, just mix your own rom. it's a matter of check-in what you want inside basically. and you can add your own stuff too. like programs you buy or are not in any ROM. I have over 110MB of programs fitted in ROM and still 100MB int.mem. and speed of the device and ram is not affected too, because i let only 3 - 4 apps from that running in background.
Well I've tried flashing it and had to visit the toilet as things didn't go well.
I flashed with a lite rom, plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install a nice front end/today screen/touchflo etc to the device when I settled on one I liked.
Rom flashed fine - quite like it.
Radio didn't go well. Got stuck at the dreaded tri coloured screen.
Mtty.exe didn't recover it either.
Visited toilet.
Flashed back to standard rom from manufacturer. All now back up and running.
Have changed underpants.
At least I was able to use the info on here to get it back up and running OK.
Problem was a write error flashing the suggested radio - at 99% got an error 226.
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plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install
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check my previous post.
try flashing from SD card, a lot of troubles with cable/pc/connector
format small (256MB) SD card with FAT32,
rename ruu_signed.nbh file to KAISIMG.NBH place on root of SD
hold camera button and start or reset pda
I think to be honest I'm a little paranoid about keeping the device memory free. The reason is my wife has an O2 Orbit which was running wm5. It has been updated to WM6 and she has very little free storage memory at all on the device to the point where we have struggled getting some programs installed. I know most give you the option to install to storage card or device, but some don't. Also the ones that do install on the storage card often put some files onto the device, such as help or configuration files.
I know this HTC has a lot more memory so it probably isn't an issue in reality.
I'm up to speed about the different types of memory and whether an app is consuming processing power or just storage space depending upon if it running or not. I just didn't have a chance to read your reply before I posted- wife wanted the PC back. And I was relieved just to have the phone back working.
Papo - thanks for you help. Really appreciate it.
I had my tilt for 2 years and never worried about memory.
OK, flashed the phone a couple of times yesterday and I've now found a rom I like a lot. Even the GUI - touchflo - works like a dream and with the programs that came with the rom I can even customise it how I like. It's smooth, quick and I am yet to discover a bug.
I'll give it a run for a couple of weeks and if I decide to keep this then I'll donate.
Interestingly I flashed back to stock rom from T Mobile through links I found on here. Worked without a problem, provided a 6ft+ 16stone bloke is happy with everything in pink. So I then flashed back to the standard HTC rom wm6.1 and had lots of problems. Basic things like selecting tick boxes didn't even work well.
I understand that everyone wants different things from their phones, how they look etc and that is why it is impossible to say which rom is best. But through this site, I have a customised phone that runs so smooth and quickly and looks damn smart. So at the moment I am well chuffed.
The only really difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them and the backup I took was incomplete as I only backed up the sim and not the phone. D'oh. Anyway I've now sorted this out as I found all the old contacts in outlook deleted items. I restored them back to the contacts folder and synced them again and it's all now back up and running.
Off to have a play
If she lets me I may even flash the wifes O2 Orbit XDA. It's been upgraded from wm5 to wm6 and the new rom leaves very little free memory on the device itself and we do struggle at times getting some software onto it. The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device. I have manually moved it back to the SD card and made new shortcuts etc, but I feel a new rom from this site would be the way to go.
Thank you to all who helped me.
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difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them
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activeSync & outlook played tricks on me too, deleting or doubling all contacts... even easier than backing up by backup program, is to copy 'RAW' database in pda before re-flashing. it's all in one file called PIM.VOL in root of phone. calendar is there as well. you can copy this to SD and upon reflashing copy back to root of pda and see what PC's outlook will have to say to it. or just keep on SD as 2nd backup.
note, the file may be locked by running programs (contacts, messages, home plugin) kill them from taskman in that case.
The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device.
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tomtom app is two files tomtom nav.exe and data.chk, put them anywhere you like and the rest, config files, will be created by it.
but it runs really slow from SD. and taking 13MB, so again, it's best to have them in ROM.
Hello, friends!
I have a nearly useless app here. I'm trying to submit it to the marketplace and those Microsoft people don't seem to have nay problem with the uselessness! However, I had accidentally used a Windows logo in the splashscreen art of the app. Obviously, they were not comfortable with it and asked me to remove it. So, without bothering to go to source again, I simply replaced the jpeg file inside XAP keeping the name of the XAP same. But even after correcting the file, they tell me that there's still Windows logo and the application is rejected.
The XAP is here: Link has been removed
Finally, the app is here:
Is there any chance that I might have left some traces of the logo somewhere? Or is it possible that the same old XAP file was tested again due to names of the new and the old being same? Thanks to community for the support! Feel free to comment on the app and the logo thing. Suggestions are always welcome.
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Hello, friends!
I have a nearly useless app here. I'm trying to submit it to the marketplace and those Microsoft people don't seem to have nay problem with the uselessness! However, I had accidentally used a Windows logo in the splashscreen art of the app. Obviously, they were not comfortable with it and asked me to remove it. So, without bothering to go to source again, I simply replaced the jpeg file inside XAP keeping the name of the XAP same. But even after correcting the file, they tell me that there's still Windows logo and the application is rejected.
The XAP is here: http://goo.gl/0SQXc
Is there any chance that I might have left some traces of the logo somewhere? Or is it possible that the same old XAP file was tested again due to names of the new and the old being same? Feel free to comment on the app and the logo thing. Suggestions are always welcome.
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Nice start. I think there is a problem though. Once you click "More" to read the entire article, is there no way to go back? Maybe I am missing something.
A couple of suggestions too.
1) Dark theme for AMOLED users.
2) Options to add sites for feeds.
Thanks.
Thanks!
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Nice start. I think there is a problem though. Once you click "More" to read the entire article, is there no way to go back? Maybe I am missing something.
A couple of suggestions too.
1) Dark theme for AMOLED users.
2) Options to add sites for feeds.
Thanks.
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Thanks a lot for your suggestions. They're around on my to-do list, especially the theme one.
About navigation: I guess, the operating system makes use of the IE itself (of the engine behind IE, to be precise) to show pages even inside app. So, back button works the same way it does with IE - taking you one page back. So, the button's action depends upon the page being loaded. Simple solution to the problem you mentioned is to double press the back button - it works, I've checked. It takes back you to the list of news items. (It doesn't take you to the page where you clicked 'more', because I think its pointless to go to the short form of the article again after reading the whole article. Let me know if you think otherwise.)
Now, to address my issue, did you find any objectionable content (Windows logo or something copyrighted) which those people are complaining about?
Couldn't find anything except for the pocketnow logo on the splash screen that could have been mistaken as the Windows logo. I know it sounds silly, but who knows.
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Couldn't find anything except for the pocketnow logo on the splash screen that could have been mistaken as the Windows logo. I know it sounds silly, but who knows.
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That's what I thought at first - the pocketnow logo. First thing, if pocketnow are using it, then should I. Secondly, it differs from the Windows logo significantly. Thirdly, they mentioned that the logo appears on the left cornet of the screen. And lastly, as you mentioned, pocketnow thing is stupid!
There was red Windows Mango logo used in the splash, which is now replaced with a red tile with the words 'blog windows phone'. I think that the confusion arose because I didn't change the name of XAP and the old one was tested again! Hope to get that approved. Wish me luck. I'll report the deep link here once its done.
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That's what I thought at first - the pocketnow logo. First thing, if pocketnow are using it, then should I. Secondly, it differs from the Windows logo significantly. Thirdly, they mentioned that the logo appears on the left cornet of the screen. And lastly, as you mentioned, pocketnow thing is stupid!
There was red Windows Mango logo used in the splash, which is now replaced with a red tile with the words 'blog windows phone'. I think that the confusion arose because I didn't change the name of XAP and the old one was tested again! Hope to get that approved. Wish me luck. I'll report the deep link here once its done.
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That could be the reason. I hope it gets approved this time around. Please include the feature to add more sites, if possible.
All the best