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Home reload / loading

I've had this happen more than a few times and seemingly at random intervals with both stock and custom (Cyanogen) firmware using normal Home and Open Home. I'll go from an app to Home and the screen will flick to the Home screen but with only the app drawer followed two or three seconds later by what is actually on that screen loading then appearing. I thought it would be a RAM issue that would vanish when I started using the linux swap file on custom firmware but no, I still get it. Once or twice a day I could tolerate but not once or twice every four or more app launches.
I've used Task Killer free to close those programs that forget to close / don't want to close but it still happens. Is it something I'm going to have to live with? I've used the Hero ROM floating around quite a lot and that doesn't suffer from this issue half as much.

Cyan's latest (3.9.7) has advanced launcher which need more ram that's why it's happening. Also, openhome is a resource hog, I don't know why would you be using it anyway. How many widgets are you running? Widgets contribute to the problem greatly. All in all, I have that same problem too.. it's just something we have to live with for the time being... I'm sure Cyan will fix it in his next release or two. n If you're inclined to do so... you can push regular launcher.apk from stable rom... that may sort things out.

borodin1 said:
Cyan's latest (3.9.7) has advanced launcher which need more ram that's why it's happening. Also, openhome is a resource hog, I don't know why would you be using it anyway. How many widgets are you running? Widgets contribute to the problem greatly. All in all, I have that same problem too.. it's just something we have to live with for the time being... I'm sure Cyan will fix it in his next release or two. n If you're inclined to do so... you can push regular launcher.apk from stable rom... that may sort things out.
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It sounds like a combination of 3.9.7, widgets and open home. I run around six widgets, three of those are photo frames. With regards to Open Home... I was young and naive (pre-root) and couldn't stand the dull look of normal Android. Hero has a much nicer look to me. I know it's odd but on a Hero ROM I run around seven widgets although two of those are to toggle WiFi and GPS. Still, at least I've got some idea of what to check now. Thanks for the heads-up!

Sprint Hero

I am not rooted and want to know other than using ATK, is there anyway to stop Sprint TV and Sprint V-Mail to load on start up, I know we cannot uninstall if not rooted but don't want them running in the background every time I reboot, other than ending the task on every reboot any other suggestion if possible

Not that I'm aware of.
Even though they come on at start-up, they really don't drain that much on your active memory or battery because they don't get used, so after a little while Android kinda shifts them into the background basically. So while it still looks like they're running, Android's default memory management is such that those programs/services won't really hurt your performance since they aren't being actively used.

There is no way to do that without rooting.

DonB. said:
I am not rooted and want to know other than using ATK, is there anyway to stop Sprint TV and Sprint V-Mail to load on start up, I know we cannot uninstall if not rooted but don't want them running in the background every time I reboot, other than ending the task on every reboot any other suggestion if possible
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No. But why would you want to? It won't slow down your phone (I promise )
Just install a task manager and if you're seeing it, add it to the ignore list.

derekwilkinson said:
Just install a task manager and if you're seeing it, add it to the ignore list.
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Just know that adding a program to Ignore doesn't actually kill/end the app. It only makes it not show up in the list of running/active programs. There will also be some kind of kill/end option which does close the app. (at least that's the way it is in the couple task managers I've used)
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

You are correct thus the reason I did away with the TK, and you are all right as it does not really use up much memory, as I downloaded Spare Parts and those both apps when I check the battery stats in the CPU usage they don't even show up. I promise boys one day I will Root just for the experience and I know I may never look back, the only reason why I have not yet is because ever since I did away with Sense UI and have been using Launcher Pro my lag has been much much less and the phone is working much better, and the sleep mode issue I have been having only happens once a week now, thanks all
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Just know that adding a program to Ignore doesn't actually kill/end the app. It only makes it not show up in the list of running/active programs. There will also be some kind of kill/end option which does close the app. (at least that's the way it is in the couple task managers I've used)
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DonB. said:
...I promise boys one day I will Root just for the experience and I know I may never look back, the only reason why I have not yet is because ever since I did away with Sense UI and have been using Launcher Pro my lag has been much much less and the phone is working much better, and the sleep mode issue I have been having only happens once a week now, thanks all
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Yeah dude, it's your phone...so do whatever it is that you want/need to make it good for you. That's a main reason we're here -- to help users get their phones working just the way want them to. Last time I checked we weren't running ppl off for not being rooted

Ha, I think I rooted my phone within an hour of getting it in the mail from Sprint, just to remove the bloatware.

The .32 kernel is less stable than .29?

I don't know if anybody else is having the same problems. I had the 1.3ghz kernel with cm7 on my nook for a long time, and it was super stable. It never freezed on me or anything. But now, with the new .32 kernel that we have to use for the newest nightlies, my nook is freezing up all the time. Does anyone know when Dal is gonna update his kernel?

I agree. I get periodic freezes with .32. Hoping for an update because otherwise it works very well. Much improved power management and battery life from .29.

I just went from 7.0.2, to nightly eighty-seven. Using the 1.2GHz 5/23 OC kernel. I did not wipe data/system, only formatted cache/Delvik-cache.
I'm seeing a SIGNIFICANT increase in system performance, screen and window transitions mainly, also App launches seem slightly faster. Which surprises me because I run alot of memory/processor heavy widgets with my system settings tailored for quality. I would venture saying an almost two-fold increase in reaction time and general snappyness. I'm also no longer getting startup FC'S on boot, and just better general app stability
Before, I was unable to get the 1.2GHz OC working with the 2.6.29 kernel. The nook would either crash on startup or shortly after. Not a single crash since making the upgrade to 2.6.32 and the corresponding OS upgrade. I'm sure this speed increase is playing its fair share in my performance observations.
One of us might be experiencing an atypical situation. it's hard to say, especially with being in the middle of an 'official' kernel upgrade and rollout.
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.32 kernel works here rock solid - no freezes.

I tend to get lock ups when waking up my device, then it tells me ADWLauncher isn't responding and have to wait a while before it comes back to life. Only started happening after moving to the .32 kernel and nightly #87.

Yeah It seems like its a hit and miss for some people. Something weird is definitely going on here. Mine freezes A LOT and often in the first 30 seconds of start-up, which leaves me having to turn the Nook Color on and off many times before getting it to finally work. I never had this problem with the .29 overclock kernel before. When we had the 925mhz OC included in the older nightlies, mine would always freeze. When we had the 1.3ghz .29 kernel, mine was rock solid. Now with the .32 kernel at 1.2ghz, it freeezes. Its an endless cycle lol.

I had significant and frequent system freezes that I finally narrowed down to a widget. Try removing Widgets to see if that helps. If you find the culprit, uninstall then reinstall.

lyam23 said:
I had significant and frequent system freezes that I finally narrowed down to a widget. Try removing Widgets to see if that helps. If you find the culprit, uninstall then reinstall.
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This is my next aspect on tracking down SOD; apps.... Good idea though, one easy way to do this is install a secondary launcher and use it for a while with no widgets, especially if you're like me and have like a dozen widgets. Otherwise yeah just remove 'em and see what happens.
Widgets for no day though? Gah

khaytsus said:
This is my next aspect on tracking down SOD; apps.... Good idea though, one easy way to do this is install a secondary launcher and use it for a while with no widgets, especially if you're like me and have like a dozen widgets. Otherwise yeah just remove 'em and see what happens.
Widgets for no day though? Gah
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Exactly what I did, in fact. Moved to ADW for a while with no Widgets. At first I suspected the launcher then realized it was a widget when I later added the widget and immediately experienced a freeze.

lyam23 said:
Exactly what I did, in fact. Moved to ADW for a while with no Widgets. At first I suspected the launcher then realized it was a widget when I later added the widget and immediately experienced a freeze.
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Which widget? I am pondering creating another form for folks to fill out, this time based on the Widgets I have.. but that'll be difficult to track down really..

Beautiful Widgets: Beautiful Home Weather.
Other BW widgets seem to work ok, though I've not tested them all.

lyam23 said:
Beautiful Widgets: Beautiful Home Weather.
Other BW widgets seem to work ok, though I've not tested them all.
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k, yeah, don't use BW.. I use.... a bunch of others though.

I tried getting rid of all of my widgets... No dice though. Didn't make any difference for me, still pretty unstable. I'm really hoping for an update soon... I'm worried though cuz I think Dal said a while ago that he wasn't gonna work on it for a while cuz its pretty much finished lol

Bad Theme
speaking of widgets, last week after a reboot because of SOD my nook had a bad case of FCs with ADW trying to load my widgets. after trying lots of different things I finally got it back up and running. after trial and error I figured out it was the theme that I was using in fancy widgets pro. I uninstall and re-download it and all is well again. so be careful, its not just the widget. make sure to also check the theme.

Yeah I thought it might be that also, so I changed to the default theme and used the default cm7 wallpaper. Still no luck. I'm pretty confident this issue has something to do with the kernel

[Q] Xperia Active/Arc launcher (and a little problem I have with Active)

Hi,
I've recently installed Xperia Active Launcher on my FroyoPro v2.5, and I love it. However, I've been having some performance issues with it that I would like to fix.
First off, I installed a system CPU monitor to see how much CPU percentage my system uses on average. When I unlock the screen, CPU averages at about 40 %, and in time if I was to do nothing it slows down below 10 %. If I was to swipe around the pages, it averages at about 30%.
If I was to run a too big of a game for the little Xperia to handle, naturally CPU jumps to close to 100%, but the lag it causes is constant. The game just slows down a bit in rate but there are no freeze-screen type of lags.
However, if I was to run Google Play Store (and this is the only app that seems to be critical to the system), the CPU jumps very high in percentage, and it even on occasion crashes the Xperia Active Launcher. I get a message that says Sony Ericsson home is not responding, and I get the option of either to wait or force close. Then the launcher breaks and reruns itself, reloading every single shortcut and widget.
So, how normal does this seem to you? Is there a workaround or should I ditch the Active Launcher and replace it with something else instead? Because I really like the look of the original stock ROM.
Also, while at it, is there any difference at all in performance between the Arc and Active launchers? Because they quite look the same. But perhaps there are modded versions out there that seem to be running better on the X8?

You should use the modded active launcher.
Also you can use nemus launcher.
Its very smooth.
If you want its link click on my sig. And go to must have apps thread.
And yes there is a diff b/w arc and active launcher in terms of memory usage.
Arc launcher consumes more memory.(based on my experiences)

dagger said:
You should use the modded active launcher.
Also you can use nemus launcher.
Its very smooth.
If you want its link click on my sig. And go to must have apps thread.
And yes there is a diff b/w arc and active launcher in terms of memory usage.
Arc launcher consumes more memory.(based on my experiences)
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The Nemus launcher does look really good. Even though I really like the corners that Xperia Active Launcher offers, and the overall stock ROM feel, I think that eventually performance would have to come first. The Nemus launcher looks very optimized and fast.
Is there a link you can provide to a better performing Active Launcher, the one that is modded? All I've found so far is a number of threads with same versions of Active Launchers, and a single Arc Launcher thread with numerous modded Arc Launchers (this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325108). I'll probably take another shot at trying the modded Active one and then decide if switching is necessary.
BTW, I pressed Thanks

Good to see that i helped you.

No luck in finding a smoother Active Launcher, but i did find this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040668
What do you guys think, would this work with the Active launcher making it more smooth for our little phone? Also, is it the same as the "Lock home in memory" setting in CM settings?
BTW, the Nemus launcher is reaaaally smooth. I'm using it as a daily launcher while still trying something for the Active launcher here and there.
EDIT: Ticking "Lock home in memory" seems to have fixed the crashes. I need more time to see if it did the trick. Also, the phone activates much faster at the lock screen.

Using supercharger with hard to kill option enabled will prevent launcher redraws.

dagger said:
Using supercharger with hard to kill option enabled will prevent launcher redraws.
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I'm surprised I never heard about this. I would love to install it, but beforehand I would have to install a newer version of BusyBox. My version is 1.15.3. I've read somewhere that if you install a different version of BusyBox after you flash a new ROM that there is a good possibility of hardbricking the phone? How true is this for FroyoPro and is it safe to do?
EDIT: I've noticed that the crashes, following the activation of "Lock in memory setting", now seem to happen only when I install or uninstall an app. At no other occassion did it happen, even if I was to bombard the phone with app activations. I switched through the Active, Nemus, ADW and Zeam launchers, and it seems it happens on all of them. I don't think this is any longer a launcher issue, so I started investigating.
It seems that moving the apps to the SD card was when the problem first began. I did some reading on the internet, and some users believe that having too much apps can in time start clogging the launcher whenever there are too many apps for it to call. There's no easy fix, short of buying a phone with a much bigger RAM capacity. Then again 3rd party scripts like this Supercharger you mentioned can help, but I'm not sure how safe it is to run on my phone. I've read about lots of cases where the phones became hardbricked. Still waiting for feedback on that one

If it asks for upgrading busybox then dont use it.
'cos me got hardbrics 3 times in attempt to install busybox.

dagger said:
If it asks for upgrading busybox then dont use it.
'cos me got hardbrics 3 times in attempt to install busybox.
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Hardbricks or softbricks? I didnt know it will hardbrick though when i trying that i only got 4 soft bricks.
Sent from my MANGO

Me unlucky.
got 3 hardbricks.

dagger said:
Me unlucky.
got 3 hardbricks.
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A shame But thanks for the warning. The problem isn't much of a hassle anyway for the risk of a brick. Perhaps if I was to some day get another phone and won't care less about what happens to this one.

LOL...

Phone is soooo slow!!!

Afternoon peeps,
Recently my Mini 2 has just ground to an unusable, good-for-nothing pile of crap.
- It is soooo slow to do anything.
- It rotates the screen when it's not being rotated.
- It locks in the middle of performing tasks.
- It blacks out for 30 seconds or so before becoming responsive again.
- Voice on Google Maps or Runkeeper apps keeps glitching.
I'm running CM12 [12-20150411-NIGHTLY-memul] with TWRP recovery.
Reinstalling the ROM returns the phone to a normal function, temporarily, before descending into chaos.
Clearing the cache partition sort of works....for a little while.
I/O Scheduler is ROW.
Storage isn't anywhere near full with 3.65Gb free.
Available RAM is on average about 170Mb
My thoughts are that an app is causing this.
Can anyone throw some troubleshooting ideas into the pot?
Thanks
E

..eredn.. said:
Afternoon peeps,
Recently my Mini 2 has just ground to an unusable, good-for-nothing pile of crap.
- It is soooo slow to do anything.
- It rotates the screen when it's not being rotated.
- It locks in the middle of performing tasks.
- It blacks out for 30 seconds or so before becoming responsive again.
- Voice on Google Maps or Runkeeper apps keeps glitching.
I'm running CM12 [12-20150411-NIGHTLY-memul] with TWRP recovery.
Reinstalling the ROM returns the phone to a normal function, temporarily, before descending into chaos.
Clearing the cache partition sort of works....for a little while.
I/O Scheduler is ROW.
Storage isn't anywhere near full with 3.65Gb free.
Available RAM is on average about 170Mb
My thoughts are that an app is causing this.
Can anyone throw some troubleshooting ideas into the pot?
Thanks
E
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Clearing cache and ram just makes it worst as Android works different from PC's.
It seems you're in the good path as just need to find what APP is doing that. Providing that you run CM12 without extras and its ok, than try install/uninstall one app at the time until you find the one its causing trouble

kativiti said:
Clearing cache and ram just makes it worst as Android works different from PC's.
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Thanks for the response. With reagrd to the above, How so?
kativiti said:
It seems you're in the good path as just need to find what APP is doing that. Providing that you run CM12 without extras and its ok, than try install/uninstall one app at the time until you find the one its causing trouble to
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I thought that might be the case. Also, I'm gettimg a lot of Background App crashes/Not responding, but there're no patterns. OneFootball, Media Storage, System UI, Google+, Facebook Messenger all make an appearance.
I think i may have to start from a fresh again

..eredn.. said:
Thanks for the response. With reagrd to the above, How so?
I thought that might be the case. Also, I'm gettimg a lot of Background App crashes/Not responding, but there're no patterns. OneFootball, Media Storage, System UI, Google+, Facebook Messenger all make an appearance.
I think i may have to start from a fresh again
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Well CM12 its a bit buggy so if you gonna run high end apps i suggest stock ROM.
Regarding RAM, android manages that pretty well for you. The more ram in use, the better things work. (if you know how RAM works) same thing with cache. So don't use stupid programs to clear RAM as they are useless.
You can google for more info.

kativiti said:
Well CM12 its a bit buggy so if you gonna run high end apps i suggest stock ROM.
Regarding RAM, android manages that pretty well for you. The more ram in use, the better things work. (if you know how RAM works) same thing with cache. So don't use stupid programs to clear RAM as they are useless.
You can google for more info.
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Interesting, the reason I'm on CM with this HTC is because the Stock ROM also showed the same symptoms, so I moved to CM to try to cure. I really liked the stock UI and was reluctant to move away from it.
I do know RAM and that does make sense - more stuff in RAM = quicker access to resouces, but surely its still a good troubleshooting step to clear down if these problems arise?

..eredn.. said:
Interesting, the reason I'm on CM with this HTC is because the Stock ROM also showed the same symptoms, so I moved to CM to try to cure. I really liked the stock UI and was reluctant to move away from it.
I do know RAM and that does make sense - more stuff in RAM = quicker access to resouces, but surely its still a good troubleshooting step to clear down if these problems arise?
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Like i said, Android will clear the apps when it need to open resources for another.
Reading back your posts, you might need to do full re-installation .
If you install Google Apps bundle, start with re-flashing that. if still no good then go for the all ROM.
But you say that it also happened with stock rom so finding the app that's causing that its crucial.
Also note the apps that stay open in the background (click the 2 Squares) only nine stay open but all you need its a game to keep eating all the resources.

kativiti said:
Like i said, Android will clear the apps when it need to open resources for another.
Reading back your posts, you might need to do full re-installation .
If you install Google Apps bundle, start with re-flashing that. if still no good then go for the all ROM.
But you say that it also happened with stock rom so finding the app that's causing that its crucial.
Also note the apps that stay open in the background (click the 2 Squares) only nine stay open but all you need its a game to keep eating all the resources.
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I've begun by uninstalling OneFootball and Facebook and performance has improved somewhat. This might be quite a long process as im going go leave a day or so between each action.
I have fully reinstalled before, but selected to restore data and apps from backup. Maybe I'll try setting up as a new device if it comes to it. Want to avoid that tho.

..eredn.. said:
I've begun by uninstalling OneFootball and Facebook and performance has improved somewhat. This might be quite a long process as im going go leave a day or so between each action.
I have fully reinstalled before, but selected to restore data and apps from backup. Maybe I'll try setting up as a new device if it comes to it. Want to avoid that tho.
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Did you find a solution? I'm facing about the same issue with my HTC One Mini 2 after installing CM12. It ran perfectly smooth in the beginning but now it is soooo slow and it takes forever to load almost any apps (especially Facebook and Snapchat).

MikkelJakobsen said:
Did you find a solution? I'm facing about the same issue with my HTC One Mini 2 after installing CM12. It ran perfectly smooth in the beginning but now it is soooo slow and it takes forever to load almost any apps (especially Facebook and Snapchat).
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I think it's either Facebook or Facebook Messenger, probably more messenger.
I first uninstalled Facebook Messenger and performance improved. Still a little glitchy, but much better.
Then I uninstalled Facebook. Not much change.
Facebook is now reinstalled, but messenger isn't and I've been happier with the phone.
I'm still getting some background apps crashing, but not as much as before uninstalling FB messenger.
Not really a 'solution' as it could be different for you, but as mentioned previously, start uninstalling an app at a time. Leave a few days inbetween so you can tell if it changed anything. If not, reinstall and try again.

Same issue here with mini 2..i dont have facebook or that football app