Trying to get my head around all the GSM acronyms.
Looks like AT&T rolled out higher speed 3G in my area HSPA 7.2.
Does My captivate support it, and is there anything I need to do to use it?
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-across-upstate-south-carolina-100973159.html
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i believe att prevents you from accessing it leaving it only for the iphone how can get the faster dl speeds
HMMM false advertising on Amazon's part perhaps?
The super-smart Samsung Captivate for AT&T brings a fully integrated entertainment, messaging and social networking experience to your mobile phone, thanks to its open and innovative Android 2.1 platform. You'll be able to zip through the Web and multitask between a bevy of apps with the Captivate's 1 GHz processor and ultra-fast 7.2 Mbps 3G connectivity.
I just called AT&T and the HSPA 7.2 isn't on my closest tower yet, the CSR told me that my phone would get it as soon as it is completely rolled out.
The thing to understand about HSPA is, while the radio on the phone and tower support 7.2Mbps down, there may not be enough backhaul (wired or microwave connection) to AT&T's network to provide you a full 7.2Mbps. For instance, Charlotte, NC was one of the first cities to gain 7.2Mbps. I've been there multiple times, but the highest I have seen was close to 3Mbps.
Thanks for that info. AT&T has been busting their ass on infrastructure here. Uverse has rolled out and then we have the 7.2 roll out.
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Does enyone know how to get onto the EVDO network from Sprint that would allow us to Direct connect with Nextel phones? I have heard that since sprint has come out with phones that utilize the EVDO network to access the Nextel network, people have ripped the software and successfully connected via other Networks.
The Kaiser is a GSM-based phone. There is no way to connect to CDMA/TDMA/EVDO networks with it.
sprint sells a phone called the mogul, or known on xda as the titan, you may wanna check in there...
Mr. NotATreoFan
hello
i thought that Evolution Data Optimized (EVDO) are same as High-Speed Data Protocol Access (HSDPA) but only with higher network speed? But my understanding was wrong. I tried to read difference but could not understand somethign at lay man term. can u please advice on difference.
NotATreoFan said:
The Kaiser is a GSM-based phone. There is no way to connect to CDMA/TDMA/EVDO networks with it.
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EVDO is term used for non-GSM high speed data access. Sprint currently uses EVDO Rev A, for example. HSDPA/HSUPA only applies to GSM networks.
thanks for clarifications
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EVDO is term used for non-GSM high speed data access. Sprint currently uses EVDO Rev A, for example. HSDPA/HSUPA only applies to GSM networks.
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Actually...
Not to be a smarty pants, but HSDPA is a form of WCDMA, a software enhancement of the original WCDMA that allows faster data transfer, and emphasizes sound and video transfers too. So, yes, the original post is correct in at least one part of the assumption, that Sprint's CDMA/EVDO network is similar technology. CDMA, and WCDMA are actually evolved from GSM, but, equipment wise, are wholly different deployments from each other. WCDMA was the first 3G technology to be deployed, in Europe and other parts of the world, primarily on the 2100 mhz band. AT&T's deployment of HSDPA (on the ever-so obscure 850mhz band) was the first in the world, but far from the first deployment of CDMA.
My understanding is that T-Mobile will be implementing their HSDPA service in something like 27 new markets here in the next few weeks, so some of us may have a second choice for high speed service.
Incidentally, Sprint, and Verizon's decision to go with plain-ol CDMA for their network deployments will, within the next 10 years or so, turn out to be one of the most financially expensive errors ever seen in the cellular industry, as it prevents them from upgrading and deploying the 4G tech that looks to be the next step for 90% of the planet...LTE. They can, and are, at least in Sprint's case, deploying a comparable tech to LTE called WiMax, however, it is not capable of the same speeds as LTE, at the top end, and will once again, push them into the land of obscurity. Sprint & Verizon are the only 2 major carriers in the world that chose CDMA for their standard when deploying their cellular networks. Losers.....
mandaryn said:
My understanding is that T-Mobile will be implementing their HSDPA service in something like 27 new markets here in the next few weeks, so some of us may have a second choice for high speed service.
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The T-Mobile 3G network is supposed to be live by December of this year, but it is running on the 1700MHz band which will eliminate almost all of the current 3G phones out in the US.
...and I hate Sprint and Verizon too.
mandaryn said:
Incidentally, Sprint, and Verizon's decision to go with plain-ol CDMA for their network deployments will, within the next 10 years or so, turn out to be one of the most financially expensive errors ever seen in the cellular industry, as it prevents them from upgrading and deploying the 4G tech that looks to be the next step for 90% of the planet...LTE.
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..May be why Sprint is now selling off all it's towers to TowerCo
Okay, I was browsing the internet, and i saw this article in the new testing of the 14.4 mbps and this is the article:
AT&T confirmed on Thursday that it has started testing some of it next-wave 3G services through a trial in Chicago. The upgrade follows previously revealed plans and gives users of supporting devices a theoretical peak 7.2Mbps download speed versus the 3.6Mbps of the current network. Upload speeds aren't mentioned but may not change depending on whether the service continues to use the older, download-focused HSDPA spec or the full HSPA format, which supports 2.9Mbps.
Carrier spokesman Mark Siegel doesn't say when the 7.2Mbps service will exit the trial period and when the network will receive the update, though the feature is believed tied to simpler software upgrades rather than a full hardware update. These speeds could also be increased to 14.4Mbps or more, Siegel adds.
Few AT&T devices directly support the faster 7.2Mbps standard and are primarily limited to devices like the HTC Touch Pro and the company's various PC modems. None currently support 14.4Mbps. A new Infineon chipset may give the 7.2Mbps speeds and faster uploads to the iPhone.
The official also reiterates that AT&T won't move directly from its regular 3G service directly to 4G on the Long Term Evolution format. Instead, the company still plans to first move to the intermediary HSPA+ standard. Siegel declines to say when this upgrade will take place or what speeds it will entail, though the company's wireless chief Ralph de la Vega has previously said download speeds would increase to around 20Mbps in 2009 through another software update for much of the network
SO, with this in mind, I might think that our Htc touch hd will be then running in a 3G band. that is my question to any one of you guys.
The rep told me that is is 4G capable, if it is now or will be, I have not heard anything about it or seen a 4G signal icon, only 3G. I have t-mobile in Florida FYI.
It's not 4G capable. I believe it can go up to 7.2Mbps, still plenty for most users.
is he/she a amazon rep , cause they said me that hd7 supports 4G and also they are hooking up all customers with 4G 200 mb plan with tmobile , even though i didn't believe that , but i asked couple of times to amazon woreless and their reps repeatedly insisted that hd7 has $G , thats strange. They are doing pathetic false advertising ; This is what they are saying exactly.......
T-Mobile's New, Expanding Super-Fast HSPA+ Network
As of June, 2010, T-Mobile has upgraded its traditional 3G network to HSPA+ in 25 major metropolitan areas across the U.S., and it plans to continue rolling out this network upgrade to over 100 metropolitan cities and up to 185 million people by the end of 2010. HSPA+ provides our fastest data speeds, up to 3 times faster than AT&T and Verizon's standard 3G networks, while allowing simultaneous voice and data capabilities for the ultimate wireless voice and data experience.
HSPA+ enabled areas will enjoy 4G-like speeds, with a theoretical capability of up to 21 Mbps peak download speeds (and typical download speeds averaging between 5 and 8 Mbps).
While this 3G-enabled mobile phone doesn't offer HSPA+ compatibility, it can benefit from enhanced speeds when connecting to the HSPA+ network today.
can anyone explain what does that mean?
It means up to 14Mb/s as compared to the normal 3G speed of around 3.5Mb/s. HSDPA+ goes up to 21.1Mb/s and HSDPA, which is what the HD2 and now the HD7 use, is basically considered to be 3.5G and rated up to 14Mb/s.
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now i got it , didn't understand why amazon folk were stressing that it supports 4G , this explains why tmobile tv is running like a trash on present 3G so once hspa+ is on 3g speeds too increase. thank you.
louisville said:
now i got it , didn't understand why amazon folk were stressing that it supports 4G , this explains why tmobile tv is running like a trash on present 3G so once hspa+ is on 3g speeds too increase. thank you.
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Actually, T-Mobile's 3.5G (HSDPA) is faster than Sprint's official 4G. TV should run perfectly fine on T-Mobile's super fast 3.5G.
T-Mobile TV's bad performance is only on the WP7 and hopefully Microsoft will fix that just like they need to fix youtube quality. I have the Vibrant as well and T-Mobile TV works fine on the 3G. At least on my HD7, Netflix has much better quality than Youtube and T-Mobile TV.
This article I found will clear the air on most of the misunderstanding of 4g capability. Google (CNET WILL THE REAL 4G PLEASE STAND UP) BTW I run Netflix on my HD7 flawlessly, and that is on numerous trips around Houston.. I <3 my HD7...
Sorry about not being able to post the actual link.. I'm a new user and can't post links..
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T-Mobile TV's bad performance is only on the WP7 and hopefully Microsoft will fix that just like they need to fix youtube quality. I have the Vibrant as well and T-Mobile TV works fine on the 3G. At least on my HD7, Netflix has much better quality than Youtube and T-Mobile TV.
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I agree, netflix looks really good, especially when im on 3g. When im off 3g its acceptable. I do to love my HD7
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Actually, T-Mobile's 3.5G (HSDPA) is faster than Sprint's official 4G. TV should run perfectly fine on T-Mobile's super fast 3.5G.
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So, why call it 4g then? I guess they just put it out there because it is a good marketing technique? Saying your first and the only one with something has a pretty big affect, especially on the people who want the first and best of ANYTHING and EVERYTHING no matter the cost.
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This article I found will clear the air on most of the misunderstanding of 4g capability. Google (CNET WILL THE REAL 4G PLEASE STAND UP) BTW I run Netflix on my HD7 flawlessly, and that is on numerous trips around Houston.. I <3 my HD7...
Sorry about not being able to post the actual link.. I'm a new user and can't post links..
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Great article, but it does not elaborate on the HD7 or any WP7 specifically, just carriers.
I have cognition rom and instead of having 3g I have this H internet. It sits on 3g for a milla second then switches to H. My buddy with iphone four is getting way higher speed tests than me, why can't I get 3g and get better speeds?
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Since this has only been answered 100 times in the past three weeks...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=H+instead+of+3g+XDA
AND as far as the better speeds for the Iphone go......you can Google that as well............ I'm guessing your on At&T?
I don't know why but my buddies 3g was consistently hitting 300-350 kbs. The max I was hitting was like 150. We were right next to each other when we were testing this, I guess that the iphone blows the captivate away in 3g reception and speed. Also in the spotty areas he was keeping his 3g and I was dropping down to edge. Kinda disappointed . Had anyone else noticed that the 3g reception isn't that good our is it just my area?
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I have cognition rom and instead of having 3g I have this H internet. It sits on 3g for a milla second then switches to H. My buddy with iphone four is getting way higher speed tests than me, why can't I get 3g and get better speeds?
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this is why i hate american cell providers, they want you to remain ignorant. it's not your fault but it is funny that people arent familiar with grps, edge, hspa, and hspa+ it is like they are telling you that you are too stupid to understand so you dont need to know.
the cdma providers are the worst. but att should be proud of having hspa, but i think they want to hide the fact that it is not available in all 3g areas. instead they advertise the hspa speeds as there 3g speeds as hspa works on there 3g network. they dont distinguish the two so you think there network is so much faster in so many places
meanwhile verizon advertises the hspa coverage for att as 3g coverage to make att's coverage look smaller. they say they have so much more coverage, if they showed a current 3g map for att instead of the hspa coverage you would not see a big difference at all. also cdma 3g is totally different from what att has and is not a fair comparison in the first place. how can you compare coverage if the speed is not comparable?
Comparing phones side by side with speed test is also not the best way to test which device is faster, especially if they are on the same network. I am annoyed by the input on this device or Id go in depth. Use some google-foo and read on cell phone signaling and theory and youll see what I mean.
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Hi All,
Is there *any* way I can get 3G/4G speeds on Samsung Focus S? I saw the unlock/debrand thread. Will it also enable 3G speeds on t-mobile network or is it hardware related and there is nothing we can do about it?
~ai2160
hardware...
My Focus S did 4G right out of the box.
The main reason you might not be able to get higher speed data lines is because of the frequencies your carrier uses to support those data feeds. Not all carriers are using the same bands. Rogers (here in Canada) uses the same bands as AT&T, so you pretty well have to wait until you can find an AT&T phone to buy to make it work.
T-Mobile in the US uses different bands, so their phones will only do E here in Canada. Likewise, and unlocked AT&T phone will only do E on T-Mobile in the US.
HOW THE F$%& do we get MMS to work if on Tmobile????
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That is good? What are you talking about... @waswaser quit posting random **** to get enough posts to spam the threads! Anyways I finally got data for Tmobile and now I have MMS Woohoo! AT&T is refarming some towers so people with unlocked AT&T phones will get 3g/4g on Tmobile, that will start 2013 i believe...
"T-Mobile reiterates their wish to launch 4G HSPA+ in the 1900 band in a
large number of markets by the end of the year. Current testing shows a
33% increase in HSPA+ data speeds and improved in-building coverage.
“Rolling out 4G HSPA+ services in the 1900 MHz band will also offer
customers with the ability to use a broader range of devices"
in other words... Focus S should work @ HSPA+ by the end of the year (if you are in the right market. Which, selfishly, should include NYC)
You lucky son.... Anyways I get great reception where I life, but it's more of a rural town Northwest of SEATTLE. I've tried AT&T phones here and I get HSDPA+ so would I get it when Tmobile is done refarming? I'd be happy with 3g though as EDGE blows...
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