Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman
Becksman said:
Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman
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Apps2SD will be there in 6.1......That's been communicated.....
Right now Firerat has build an script which does the JOB, I have a dream and using apps2sd with CM6....
Search the thread or XDA and you will get all the info....
FroYo, that CM6 is based on, has it's own implementation, often referred to as Apps2FAT. Cyanogen, and others, have stated that something resembling the CM4/5 Apps2Ext will be in the next release of CM.
Thanks for the replys so far. I was aware that an implementation of Apps2SD in CM6.1 is planned. I know as well that there is a workaround with firerat's patch.
I just tried to understand what's different with CM6 in comparison to CM5. I thought: hey, maybe with CM6 there's a good reason why apps2SD is not supported anymore. Maybe there's an alternative to apps2SD which works more reliable (not that it didn't with apps2SD on CM5). If so, I would have been willing to reinstall my apps and use the new system.
If there's no reason not to use apps2SD in CM6 then I'll consider updating. Either now, applying firerat's patch, or in some time when CM6.1 is out...
Best regards,
Becksman
it is Apps2SD, but it is saving the data to the FAT32 partition, rather than the EXT partition we are used to. one limitation I've discovered was by installing desktop widgets on the external. when the OS booted up, none of the widgets loaded.
I suspect the reason CM6.0 doesn't have Apps2Ext is threefold.
FroYo has something similar built-in. Therefore, users have a solution to the underlying problem w/out a custom CM solution. (problems w/ that implementation notwithstanding)
A polished solution would have to integrate with the FroYo solution in some way. This takes extra work.
Getting FroYo running solidly was a huge effort of it's own. TeamDouche expanded the number of supported devices by a huge number. They integrated the completely new build system Google released with FroYo. Adding another feature, especially in light of #1 and #2 above, would have delayed the release without real merit.
Thanks for the clarifications.
So I guess I'll stick with Apps2Ext. Though I guess I'll have to wait until CM6.1 is out, as I really don't have the time right now to keep myself busy playing with my phone and try to make everything work.
Thanks again for your effort - what a wonderful forum.
Regards,
Becksman
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I suppose this is the right place to post this. Because it does say "Dream Q & A"
So here I go. After the first time of rooting my g1 and installing jf's rom and "lite bricking" my g1 from using the apps2sd2 app trying to partition my sd card "which it already was" and then finally flashing back to stock firmeware safely with no hicups
I'm finally deciding to get back onto the "root" wagon and I know there's a couple of roms out there for "advanced" and "nornal" users and (I'm kind of both) I'm wondering
And please don't flame me and say "u have to decide" or "search" because I don't want to pick a rom that's crappy(I'm not saying any of them are crappy) I just don't want a rom with a "dead" dev. And so I'm wondering out of all you guys here, And out of all the roms you've tried, which would you suggest is the best and why you use it so I can kinda see what I'm going to do here.
And please if you have nothing positive to say then don't say it ; )
Cyanogen is the best for me.
Cyanogen! The thing's he's done...just wow plain WOW
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Cyanogen! The thing's he's done...just wow plain WOW
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i do agree with this point.....even Haykuro admits that he is the one
Cyan's rom is hands down the best period. The constant updates and the fact that he is always around trying to fix things and add great new features.
Cyanogen's Rom FTW. currently at 3.6.2 with updates when needed. I love his rom and with A2SD i get 80mb of free internal space with amazing speeds!
I echo Cyanogen as well, however I've yet to try out Dude's new build with built in hero theme, HTC Music app etc.
There are other ROMs out there as well but it depends on your needs. If you need Exchange support then try one of the Rogers ROMs. If you don't know what Exchange is, then chances are you wouldn't need it so the choice is between Cyanogen and Dudes.
Dude's builds are amazing as well. He doesn't seem to be around that frequently now. I love CM's ROMS but if you want stability, like ABSOLUTE stability, JF all the way.
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Are you using setcpu to overlock your phone? If you're running a cyanogen rom or cyanogen based rom the overclock kernel is included, you just need setcpu from the market, or you can get it for free here on xda. It will allow you to overclock. If you are already overclocking, and you need a 2.1+ rom, I suppose you could try SuperE or SuperFly, they are fairly fast.
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gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Personally I'd steer clear of Cyan roms until your more comfortable with setting things up, personally I don't use cyans but thats my choice.
I'd go with either EZterry's asop or the new enom 'official' that is out and has a few more configurable options. All the fun of the fair without the bloatware cm roms have and will ease you into the world of flashing
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
Wipe?
With the newer CyanogenMod stuff I have found that wiping and reflashing the same ROM in recovery seems to help substantially on the FCs and lagginess.
I'm not sure why the full wipe / reflash works, but I suppose it has something to do with the inability to do a complete wipe. I haven't tried the new uber wipe that just came out, but I would be curious to see if that had better results as a starting point for a ROM install.
Also, I found I was happier on CyanogenMod with LauncherPlus over the included ADW Launcher. Though that was on the beta of 6.1 and I know the 6.1 stable has a newer version of ADW which might have addressed some of its annoyances.
I recommend setting up Titanium Backup for apps or using Droid Explorer to pull a backup of your ideal application environment. This will make swapping out ROMs quick for testing out what works for you.
mn3kgtvr4 said:
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
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For speed and stability its difficult to beat the SuperD 1.11 rom ....essentially a donut (1.6) rom stripped and then filled with 2.1 (eclair) goodness. Sweet.
Hello all,
just got m nook color and don't fully want to mod internal software quite yet and was looking for a bootable sd version of ginger bread like CM& and couldn't find one.
Found the one for honeycomb but not gingerbread.
Anyone know if there is even one for the sd bootable where don't touch internal software.
Thanks again.
Unfortunately at this time there is no SD bootable version of CM7. I am learning how all the stuff works and hope to make one soon but I have no time line for the project as I am not a developer and don't know if I will ultimately have time to make it. If I do get one do look for it in the dev board, but again, no promises and please do not bombard my PMs or the forums with 'when is it coming' messages.
Really, that would by nice. But the bootables have some speed issues.
I am constructing a dualboot rooted Eclair / CM7 gingerbread, based on multipliable thread posts and the work of the great devs here. Some seem to run this daily. I hope I can get it up and running too.
Speed issues aside alot of people, myself included, do not necessarily want to flash their MMC for a variety of reasons but still want to be able to run the neat stuff. I have my NC rooted and tons of stuff installed with no reboot issues and the like so that my main reason for trying to create a CM7 SD.
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Hello there, I recently flashed CM6 to my G1 and used Zeam for a faster launcher, but friends are telling me that when they used CM6, their phone got slower and slower as time went on, and that I should seek alternatives.
I hear one of the best Android 2.2 roms out there is Froyo by Laszlo, and from reading it seems the only major difference is that it can use the more recent radio/spl/kernel which adds 15MB, and that it's generally lighter than CM6 as well.
Can anyone give me a rundown on what some of the other major differences are? I also hear other good ones are ezterry's AOSP and Froyo for Trout.
As for upgrading the Radio and SPL needed for Froyo by Laszlo:
Considering I have DangerSPL (HBOOT-1.33.2005), RA's Recovery, and Radio 2.22.23.02, is there anything extra I need to worry about other than what's outlined in this thread?
Thanks in advance.
GoodOlTarvis said:
Hello there, I recently flashed CM6 to my G1 and used Zeam for a faster launcher, but friends are telling me that when they used CM6, their phone got slower and slower as time went on, and that I should seek alternatives.
I hear one of the best Android 2.2 roms out there is Froyo by Laszlo, and from reading it seems the only major difference is that it can use the more recent radio/spl/kernel which adds 15MB, and that it's generally lighter than CM6 as well.
Can anyone give me a rundown on what some of the other major differences are? I also hear other good ones are ezterry's AOSP and Froyo for Trout.
As for upgrading the Radio and SPL needed for Froyo by Laszlo:
Considering I have DangerSPL (HBOOT-1.33.2005), RA's Recovery, and Radio 2.22.23.02, is there anything extra I need to worry about other than what's outlined in this thread?
Thanks in advance.
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This might help you choose a rom:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079194
Your pretty much good with everything on the radio and spl, but check out the original thread just to make sure:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
I did look at the thread, but it still doesn't say what makes it so different.
I suppose the best way to know for sure is to try it for myself, so thanks for clarifying.
GoodOlTarvis said:
I did look at the thread, but it still doesn't say what makes it so different.
I suppose the best way to know for sure is to try it for myself, so thanks for clarifying.
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I have not tried froyo by laszlo, but i have tried cm6 , so i cant tell what the difference is, but another major difference is that froyo by laszlo has apps2sdext, which allows you to install apps in a ext3 or ext 4 partition on your sd card, while cm6 does not.
I noticed that, does it set up the partitions for you, or will I have to do this myself? What would a good size for them be?
GoodOlTarvis said:
I noticed that, does it set up the partitions for you, or will I have to do this myself? What would a good size for them be?
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Yes you will, this thread might help you with partitioning your sd card for ext4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097920
its on page 3, but the whole thread might be helpful
Okay, thanks for that, I'm going to try it now.
EDIT: Last question, does the updated kernel for 2708 come pre-installed with Froyo by Laszlo or does that have to be done separately as well?
EDIT2: D'oh, nevermind, I saw it in the features list. Right now it's booting, hope it works!
EDIT3: Wow, they weren't lying, Laszlo did a great job, it's lightning fast! I'm not partial to the theme choice, but I know this can be changed easily.
Thanks for your help.
I do have a few more questions though;
1. How do I revert to the Android 2.2 Google Market? The new one feels a bit too cluttered to me, and flashing CM6 Google Apps did not change this
Thanks in advance.
GoodOlTarvis said:
Okay, thanks for that, I'm going to try it now.
EDIT: Last question, does the updated kernel for 2708 come pre-installed with Froyo by Laszlo or does that have to be done separately as well?
EDIT2: D'oh, nevermind, I saw it in the features list. Right now it's booting, hope it works!
EDIT3: Wow, they weren't lying, Laszlo did a great job, it's lightning fast! I'm not partial to the theme choice, but I know this can be changed easily.
Thanks for your help.
I do have a few more questions though;
1. How do I revert to the Android 2.2 Google Market? The new one feels a bit too cluttered to me, and flashing CM6 Google Apps did not change this
Thanks in advance.
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Try this for a theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090823
^_^
Thanks for the suggestion, but I simply ended up replacing the lock screen with Froyo's, as well as tweaking the status bar (making it a gradient rather than solid black, for example)
ok my personal opinion... froyobylaszlo the BEST froyo rom hands down... only issue i find is that the developer stopped updating soo you can take it upon yourself to make changes if you dont like it.. but still to this day i thinks its the best.. sorry to offend anyone by saying that but its only my personal opinion... lazslo rom is just so smooth and stable..
my sd was 128mb swap and 1024mb ext4 and i used this kernel... http://www.4shared.com/file/1j_4eg7x/ezBiffTestKernel20110222-2708_.html
honestly you will love this rom but i recomend upgrading your radio and hboot... can follow this guide or the one you posted earlier by habbitat22, they are kinda the same..
My girlfriend's old flip phone broke, so I set her up on my old G1 with cyanogen 4.
She likes it but it is android 1.6 so a lot of apps don't work.
I see a lot of roms talking about flashing radios and such and am lost (I am spoiled by safestrap on my D4).
Was looking for a good gingerbread or later rom that will function (calls,wifi,gps,bt,audio,camera,etc) and a detailed how to on flashing the rom and any required radios/kernals/etc. I tried cyanogen 6.1, but it kept rebooting.
Thanks in advance.
EzGingerbread is very stable and eeks just about every last drop of speed the old G1 is capable of providing. The opening post of that thread has pretty extensive instructions.
He also provides links to older versions of apps that work well. Newer versions of some apps like Maps are just too bloated to run on the G1.
gossipninja said:
My girlfriend's old flip phone broke, so I set her up on my old G1 with cyanogen 4.
She likes it but it is android 1.6 so a lot of apps don't work.
I see a lot of roms talking about flashing radios and such and am lost (I am spoiled by safestrap on my D4).
Was looking for a good gingerbread or later rom that will function (calls,wifi,gps,bt,audio,camera,etc) and a detailed how to on flashing the rom and any required radios/kernals/etc. I tried cyanogen 6.1, but it kept rebooting.
Thanks in advance.
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Check out Royalknight6190s ROM Bible, and my recently posted G1 Oracle. I would recommend Feoyo by Laszlo, or any of the variants. Gingerbread is not a great idea on the G1. Take a look in the G1 XDA wiki for guides. Google's a good resource as well.
Do your own research if you want a ROM that lives up to your OWN personal needs. Which will probably be speed on a G1. So go for something old and lightweight.
Also, this is a development forum this thread should be in Q&A.
I agree that Froyo by Lazlo was a good build, but you will need to flash a different kernel over it - either Farmatito's or EZTerry's. There's a known battery drain bug with the stock kernel.
thanks for the input guys, I finally hunted down the old hboot and danger spl files, as well as a tiny gapps and have cm6.1 on it.
I might have to add in the EZTERRY 14mb hack, but that will have to come later.