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I just got my Tilt the other day. I would say about 10% of the operating system is now stock . I'm using PocketCM, which I love. One glaring omission, it seems to me, is the lack of an iPhone style music player. It would be great to have the finger scrolling and nice interface as a replacement for the terrible library management of WMP. Anybody working on something like this?

yes actually... look around some and you'll find it, last i read it wasnt playing music yet, but i did play with the interface and its great

Jozer99 said:
I just got my Tilt the other day. I would say about 10% of the operating system is now stock . I'm using PocketCM, which I love. One glaring omission, it seems to me, is the lack of an iPhone style music player. It would be great to have the finger scrolling and nice interface as a replacement for the terrible library management of WMP. Anybody working on something like this?
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The new version of Pocket Player has touch scrolling. However, they clearly put very little thought into it, as it has a lot of glaring problems that make it more of a novelty than something of actual use. Hopefully they'll fix it, but it's a good start.

I tried out Pocket Player. The finger scrolling is actually pretty nice, but the rest of the interface is aweful. Is there any project out there working on making a completely finger based MP3 player? It seems to me like the basic framework of Pocket CM could be easily ported to playing music, assuming it was programmed modularly:
1. Substitute the contacts database for a music database.
2. Substitute the context menu (Call, SMS, Edit, etc) for a music playing screen.

music browser issue

Hi all,
I recieved my new touch diamond today (really impressive exept for the battery)
Anyway, I wanted to add an album to the existing ones. The thing is that now, I can't brows threw the albums (iphone way). I have to enter in the library and choose an album. If I scroll up and down, it changes the tracks and does not switch between the albums.
Any ideas to get the iphone like browser back?
Thanks

Mine is the same way. Only i had some songs on the internal storage, then i updated to 1.37. Now it shows those songs in the flip, like ipod, but others i add do not show up. I have to go into library to see them.

I have the same thing. Never figured it out! I think it may only function like that if All Songs are selected and Shuffle is on.
But even that only seems to work occasionally...

I have the same. The touch flow player is just complete disfunctional crap. Dont even bother trying to get it to work because it wont. Your either one of those people which get it working straight away or one that wont ever get it to work. Its useless. Use mediaplayer instead, atleast that works. Its better too as it actually has a volume slider which the touchflow player doesnt which is annoing because that way you have to change your volume all the time and change it back again which I think is way to much trouble.

I agree. I've given up on it and have forked out for Pocket Player 3.
Audiobooster also leaves me with no bass so I can't use that anymore.
It's a real shame HTC have messed thing up so badly as I really liked the old AudioManager player.
Luckily the Diamond battery doesn't last long enough for me to get that pissed off with its functionality!

there's a wide misconception that the phone flicks through like iphone cover flow. it doesn't. what it does is flick through your current album selection or playlist. when we got the phone it looked like cover flow because there were a selection of tracks in one initial list all with different art.

ericsson68 said:
there's a wide misconception that the phone flicks through like iphone cover flow. it doesn't. what it does is flick through your current album selection or playlist. when we got the phone it looked like cover flow because there were a selection of tracks in one initial list all with different art.
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I see, I'll try to look into it.
I hope htc comes ou twith a fix.
Thank you all for you replys

nickytheshaft said:
I see, I'll try to look into it.
I hope htc comes ou twith a fix.
Thank you all for you replys
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This is not a bug, so why fix it ?
This is just browsing thru your "Playing Now" in stead of browsing thru an album.
If you want functionality like an iPhone, by an iPhone

bdormael said:
This is not a bug, so why fix it ?
This is just browsing thru your "Playing Now" in stead of browsing thru an album.
If you want functionality like an iPhone, by an iPhone
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what no way i'll stick with this functionality. The thing i that they sold it as an album browser (just read all the pre tests) and it would be easyer if it was in fact an album browser, keeping you from having to entre the library each time.

I have to agree, it was definitely positioned as if it performed like cover flow. In no videos or presentations I've seen does it say "look you can see the cover art" - which is essentially all we're getting unless you play all (and then all your tracks are in alpha order and not album or artist order).
Essentially it works but it was a bit naughty of HTC to position it as something it clearly is not.
I can live with it - a bigger issue for me is that my fave photo album never sticks!

In the user guide P68, they say that you can brows threw albums or songs...

And they would be right, you click library first and.... browse through albums or songs. There is no mechanic in the touch-flow music in order to browse albums by flicking and then it showing you the list of songs for that album. I'm sure it's possible but it hasn't been coded in that way.

best mp3 player

hello there, i just bought an X1 and was trying to find the best mp3 player. the ones i found on the phone were very slow. i have an 8 gb card with 1400 songs on it.
i need a player that doesn't have a delay between changing the songs and also a search function.
i found winamp for WM; i runs smoothly but i couldn't find the jump button.
any ideas ?

there are plenty...pocket player, imulator, s2p, lcg jukebox...
imo, pocket player is better choice, but it is not free

I also recommend Pocket Player by Conduits. Not free but the best player I have seen so far.

thanks man, i found pocket player, it's nice, but it's so slow . i'm having so many problems with this thingy, i can't even find the gps menu in settings

I dont consider Pocket Player slow. Its not lightning fast, ok. But slow?
Concerning gps setting: You will find them under settings\system\external gps

Another vote for Conduits Pocket Player. Not slow at all, slides and performs as expected. I had been a satisfied user for many years and had it running on all of my WM devices with no issues, and we are talking a far less spec-ed ones than Xperia. The best part for me is that it sends music over the bluetooth to a mono headset and with tweaks can be set up as a default media player for Voice Command, which means it gets controlled through bluetooth as well. Can't beat that.

mishick said:
hello there, i just bought an X1 and was trying to find the best mp3 player. the ones i found on the phone were very slow. i have an 8 gb card with 1400 songs on it.
i need a player that doesn't have a delay between changing the songs and also a search function.
i found winamp for WM; i runs smoothly but i couldn't find the jump button.
any ideas ?
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With Pocket Player you can set up the interval between songs, even fading of one song into another.

mishick said:
thanks man, i found pocket player, it's nice, but it's so slow . i'm having so many problems with this thingy, i can't even find the gps menu in settings
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I wonder if slowness is caused by your card read rates...

yeah, my card is probably slow, but this doesn't change the fact that pocket player has a not so nice search function. after you find the desired track, it replaces the playlist and you have to go back each and every time.
have you tried that winamp version for WM ? if i could find the "jump" button. it really looks like winamp and it's veeeery fast.
ps: i'm using the same micro sd on an n95 and it works like a charm, i'll try and update the x1 to 6.5; if i'm not satisfied with the results, i'll swap it for an n97.

It's a question of configuration. In advanced settings you can choose whether to generally replace the current playlist or to enqueue an opened file. What's more it is important to choose the correct method. If you want to replace the current playlist you choose open\open file but if you'd like to enqueue you have to use open\add file. It's the same in the library. When you press on an album, artist or track in the list a menu pops up and you can choose between play (replaces current playlist) or enqueue. In the library there are settings too. There you can once again choose between different ways the program interprets gestures/ actions. So all in all what you describe is a mere question of configuration and using the correct method

i've given up. i tried saving a playlist and it freezed my phone (twice). i don't care anymore.
now...this is WINDOWS mobile, right? on my p990 i had an emulator for old nintendo games (mortal kombat, street fighter etc); is there such thing?
what other games do you know? i saw a video, someone was playing tony hawk, i'm looking for something similar with good graphics and interesting gameplay, perhaps a football game, pool, bowling...

Perhaps... the problem is with your device.... I can't say I ever had any problems of any kind running Pocket Player, saving playlists, selecting songs, scrolling through lists etc, and I used it on quite a few WM devices so far. Can't even say the performance was ever affected by the ROM or specifications. It runs equally well on 200Mhz devices and 620Mhz devices, with 64Mb RAM and 256Mb. It even runs perfectly well on LG KS20 and that little bugger has many problems. I have it on my Xperia, needless to say.

FYI: I realise that you asked for a new media player, but I thought it was worth mentioning that both the X1s built-in meda players have a highly elegant quick search as you type feature.... just start typing..

sonus said:
FYI: I realise that you asked for a new media player, but I thought it was worth mentioning that both the X1s built-in meda players have a highly elegant quick search as you type feature.... just start typing..
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if you have more than 1 song that starts with "mar" for example, it will only show you the first one
what's so elegant if it doesn't satisfy my needs? btw, where's the equalizer on these so sweet and neat "media" players? even with the players that have equalizer, the sound sucks in my car/headsets comparing to nokia.
i'm sorry to say this, i love ericsson, but i regret buying xperia.

Look it is clearly visible that you don't now how to use Pocket Player. You say: "This does not work, that is not possible". But everything you mentioned so far is possible with Pocket Player as long as you know how to use it.
Concerning your problem with playlists I cant confirm that the Xperia crashes when saving a playlist. Have you tried saving in another format?
If you don't like Pocket Player there are other solutions. Pocket Music by Pocketmind for example or Mortplayer. Both come with an equaliser but for me Pocket Player is by far the best program available.

AS for games you can get warcraft 2 and starcraft and heaps of other games.

hey, i have the best solution: throw away this crap and buy the goddamn ugly n97,
this morning i was trying to send an sms to a bunch of my friends and, surprise, i can't mark recipients, i have to select them 1 by 1. YEAH XPERIA ALL THE WAAAY

Look I found in 5 minutes by using the search function what you say is not possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354164
Search also for the keyword "power sms" as this is another solution. Maybe there is even more software available here at XDA. Generally everything is possible with Windows Mobile because there is software for almost any function you can imagine. So please either start using your brain or stop annoying us with your false statements. I don't care if you believe Xperia X1 is crap and N97 is better but stop claiming things that are just plain wrong only because you are to lazy to look for a solution yourself.

for me nitrogen is the best mp3 player for winmo.

so i have to install a third party software to send a lousy sms? if i wanna send a message to 1 guy, i use it's default app and if i wanna send one to many, the other one. i can't believe this. yes, i'm slothful, that's why i bought a smartphone
oh, btw, sometimes, it doesn't show the number that's callin' me so i have to restart it...
i have nothing against xperia or WM, i'm just being objective here, but imagine if i would have had to pay for all these extra applications? imagine if i didn't know my way around technology. i would want my SMAAARTPHONE to do everything by default; and by everything, i mean the basics.
you guys know better than me that many 3rd party apps are ****ed up and buggy and laggy, and trust me, i had more than 10 symbian phones, i know what i'm talking about. so don't you dare jump on me with "use your brain, false statements". maybe i do have a cheap micro sd, but why does the old n95 work so smooth with it a?
altae, i dare you to show me a video of you using pocket player. i want you to load a playlist with at least a couple of hundred songs, i want you to have there songs that have the same title such as come(ing) undone by placebo, korn and robbie williams. search for "undone", let me see how it shows you all 3 songs and after you select one, the playlist goes on just like "good ol' winamp". if you can do that and i can't, i swear i'll hit myself as hard as i can with the x1 in the head, in my nuts or wherever you want me to.

[Q] Media (audio) player

Can anyone recommend an audio player that is better than the SE one?
Happy to pay if it's worth it.
The one thing I do like on the X2 is it's ability to store a bunch of my CDs so I can play them.
I just wish the media player was a bit better:
- bigger pic of the CD cover would be nice
- more info about the CD (e.g. year released)
- better info on tracks (if the track is from a various artists CD let me see which artist the track is by)
That's all I can think of right now.
Thanks.

winamp for ppc perhaps
i think its called WinamPAQ

john3136 said:
Can anyone recommend an audio player that is better than the SE one?
Happy to pay if it's worth it.
The one thing I do like on the X2 is it's ability to store a bunch of my CDs so I can play them.
I just wish the media player was a bit better:
- bigger pic of the CD cover would be nice
- more info about the CD (e.g. year released)
- better info on tracks (if the track is from a various artists CD let me see which artist the track is by)
That's all I can think of right now.
Thanks.
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Nitrogen is a freeware player which isn't bad & has an EQ & is skinable. Now, Pocket Player is (IMHO) the absolute BEST player on Windows Mobile. It has an EQ & ability to do 'full-screen' Album covers. The only caveat: they are NOT on Windows Marketplace, and if you have to reset the phone & reinstall, you're going to have to beg them for another key. (I *HATE* that kind of crap, and I've gotten to the point where I go out of my way to AVOID anything that's not on Marketplace. Also, Marketplace lets you download on up to 5 devices, ...so for me: I don't have to re-buy all the stuff I bought on the X1 for my X2.)
Please AVOID at all costs the Kinoma (payware) player. Although it looks like you're getting a great bargain, it has a default setting to always "search the entire phone" for new content. And, even if you turn that off, every now-and-then it loses its cookies and forces you to unexpectedly re-catalog the entire phone (usually, when you MOST want to 'just listen to music').
PocketMusic is another freeware player, that supposedly supports WinAmp skins, and has an EQ. I found this one really flaky with a CLUNKY interface that was well-bested by Nitrogen.
...Now, after all was said-and-done, I'm back to using plain-vanilla Windows Media Player. This is for a number of reasons:
1) It's skinable, too. (Look for the toadlife_Sense25_WMP_Skin_signed.cab; it's HTC-like, but really clean)
2) It is fast at cataloging tunes, and I don't know how it does it, but doesn't take a gb or two to do it (Kinoma; I'm *****ing at you!), and it's completely at your discretion when you want to update it.
3) Album-size, while not as fancy as I'd like, is not bad.
4) Using the default X2 Saturn skin (MR2 firmware), WMP's library selection doesn't look bad (although it doesn't show album art like PocketPlayer or some others), and is fairly finger-able.
5) BOTTOM LINE: I noticed that (although it doesn't have a built-in EQ), the sound quality is actually noticeably better than Nitrogen & PocketMusic provided. It seems as if WMP engages some sort of noise-canceling when actual signal is produced. You can hear it kick-in when you hit play. And, this is not to say that dynamic range is reduced. I think it sounds better in-ear than on X1, in general, even though I was able to run the HTC EQ in the background on X1 (not compatible with X1, due to the hardware not being HTC).
For me, Slideview entirely crashes after a few mins anytime I run it. I have a 16gb card with LOTS of pictures, games, emus & music. Unfortunately, Slideview is very persistent and you can't hack the registry to limit what folders it looks in (it just HAS to look everywhere). There seems to be some files (possibly emus) that it thinks are Videos (but are not) and when it gets to refreshing them, craps out.
But, WMP works well for me. --If you can't live with it, go for PocketPlayer. I may go back to it someday, myself... but I want to be absolutely sure I won't do a full-phone-refresh someday. I've had the X2 for a little over a month, and am pretty well-settled, but ...there were a lot things I tried/uninstalled, etc. which have probably bloated my registry (I might have to break down and reload one day).

Got my HD7!

Hi Everyone,
My HD7 arrived today and I have started to set it up etc. (I am in the UK)
Any questions you want to know fire them at me.
I am coming from a Galaxy S so it does seem a tad limited for now until the apps catch up.
So far I have noticed the following oddities.
OS based Issues MS need to fix
Video player does not play audio via A2DP. (music does)
Bluetooth settings lack any options for type (Headset/Stereo) settings (no real issue)
Mobile IE does not render Toodledo/slim well so not sure about other sites.
Zune software - Podcast section does not appear in market in UK have to add rss feeds manually to the app.
No custom ringtones/other sound settings
No option to connect to WIFI with hidden SSID
Only syncs main calendar from any source not any additionals.
Media HUB only remembers the location of the last video in the play list that is "paused" once you move to other items of music or other videos it forgets the place.
Other issues not OS related. (all will be fixed over time with good apps)
Lack of apps is a real issue on day one. This should change.
No TODO app with push notifications available! big issue for me.
YouTube App just loads the m.youtube.com so its really just a player engine once you pick a video from the site.
Videos get converted on the fly during sync which makes this a slow process. Should kick off the conversion as soon as you say sync to phone.
Other than these points the phone itself is really nice and fast, no lag at all.
Takes some getting used to but I am trying hard to make it all work.
Russ

No connection to hidden SSID? That sucks!
Can you categorise imported/synched videos into any album you want and rename the albums? So I could have say one video album labelled FAMILY, one labelled, FUNNY, one labelled MOVIES etc

Thanks for the input. What's your opinion of the screen coming from samoled? How is the ringer volume compared to the Samsung?
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I got mine today, just sold my Galaxy S, still have my iPhone 4.
Screen is almost as good as iPhone, nothing like Super AMOLED sadly.
Biggest issue for me is speakers are terrible.
Kev

Oh okay thanks for the info. I had an ip4 so if its close to that I am cool. I hate to hear the speakers suck. That's big issue for me. Especially since I can't add my loud ringers I usually add if speakers suck on the phones I get
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I thought the HTCs had Dolby Surround or whats it called How can they be worse than the competitors?

I may be mistaken but Dolby Sound and SRS only work when headphones are plugged in. Maybe someone can confim.

i Can confirm that both SRS and Dolby mobile work through headphones and through the speakers, when putting on Dolby does make it sound slightly louder and clearer for me!!

That's great to hear
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tboy2000 said:
No connection to hidden SSID? That sucks!
Can you categorise imported/synched videos into any album you want and rename the albums? So I could have say one video album labelled FAMILY, one labelled, FUNNY, one labelled MOVIES etc
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As far as I can make out on my Zune software I can not group videos into playlists so there does not seem to be an easy way to get it to auto sync unless you pick the ALL option.
Still messing with it though.
Russ

kevwright said:
I got mine today, just sold my Galaxy S, still have my iPhone 4.
Screen is almost as good as iPhone, nothing like Super AMOLED sadly.
Biggest issue for me is speakers are terrible.
Kev
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Agreed, the screen is nowhere as good as the Galaxy but if you have never had a Super Amoled then I dont think you will be disappointed.
Speaker volume is very low compared to my Galaxy also. I thought the grills at top and bottom were speakers but they are just for show.
The speaker is next to the camera on the back.
Russ

RussST24 said:
YouTube App just loads the m.youtube.com so its really just a player engine once you pick a video from the site.
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This is not true, without the Youtube app you can't play Youtube Videos from the website. The App contains necessary Code/Drivers which allow you to play Youtube videos whethere going through the App/Link or from IE.
Also the Front Mounted Speakers are still being questioned. HTC seemed to have advertised the phone to Reviewers/Critics as having "Front Mounted Stereo Speakers" however atm they are either not used (software update required from M$) or HTC were lying. I'd like to hope it's teh first one but you never know
The Screen on mine is brilliant when the brightness is set to High. When on Auto it seems to keep screen brightness on Medium which is a bit rubbish and doesn't show it off very well. Get it on High and you'll notice the difference. It's (very) hardly noticable from the HTC Desire's when they're side by side, but the fact it's massive far outways that.

Thats was my point about it being just a player engine (codecs etc). I was comparing what I know from Android for a youtube app and was suprised it was not a full in app experience.
But being able to play the videos at all is a big plus.
Agree on the screen, set on HIGH it looks very nice and anyone will be happy with it but I am not sure what impact the battery is going to take. Side by side with a galaxy S though you do see the difference but if you never had a super Amoled then you wont care at all.
What is a score with Low - Med - High anyway, wheres the slider for brightness. Seems like a miss that should have been easy.
Russ

Ah apologies I misread you on the YouTube thing. I've left my screen brightness on high for a few days now and I must say I haven't even noticed a difference in battery life, although tbh my battery life is terrible anyway. Why HTC chose a 1200 instead of a 1500 is beyond me.

Waiting on my new HTC HD7 arriving this afteroon, been using an HTC HD2 with hacked Android and love it apart from the bugs etc...
Have 14 days to decide weather its worth it or if i need to switch carries to the Desire HD...
Hurry up DHL!!!

Did you already try to install on your HD7 some .CABs developed for WM6 ?
There are a couple of apps (SPB Wallet, iGO8) I couldn't live without, and losing them under WM7 would be a big problem.
Thanks
S

sandrinopi said:
There are a couple of apps (SPB Wallet, iGO8) I couldn't live without, and losing them under WM7 would be a big problem.
Thanks
S
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Yes, would like to know if iGo8 works with Windows Phone 7 as well.

sandrinopi said:
Did you already try to install on your HD7 some .CABs developed for WM6 ?
There are a couple of apps (SPB Wallet, iGO8) I couldn't live without, and losing them under WM7 would be a big problem.
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1) Absolutely, positively no possible way ANY Windows Mobile apps will run on Windows Phone 7 as it exists today.
2) What is this "WM7" of which you speak?

tai4de2 said:
1) Absolutely, positively no possible way ANY Windows Mobile apps will run on Windows Phone 7 as it exists today.
2) What is this "WM7" of which you speak?
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...you mean that NO existing app running on WM6.x will run under WM7 ?
No backward compatibility ?
Apps have to be completely rewritten ?
Please tell me I'm wrong
PS WM7 = Windows Mobile 7

exactly, WP7 and WM6 are 2 different pairs of shoes. You also cannot run a Windows program on a Commodore C64 Btw. there is on Windows Mobile 7, it´s called Windows Phone 7,
cheers