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Motorola Milestone - 3G Mobile Hotspot running hot!!!

Hey,
I've been running the 3G Mobile Hotspot app on my Milestone running 2.2. I'm aware that the app isn't meant for the phone, but it's running very hot and i'm worried that it might damage the phone. I'm sure its taking a hit on battery life too but that isn't much of a problem as the heat.
So thanks in advance to anyone who can answer.
Kris

maybe you can underclock during that time.
CPU Tuner is good for that (disable profiles and pick a speed)

zeppelinrox said:
maybe you can underclock during that time.
CPU Tuner is good for that (disable profiles and pick a speed)
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Ah CPU Tuner i see, i was thinking of SetCPU is there a major difference between the two? I'm kinda new to Android stuff hehe.
Thanks,
Kris

linkandzelda said:
Hey,
I've been running the 3G Mobile Hotspot app on my Milestone running 2.2. I'm aware that the app isn't meant for the phone, but it's running very hot and i'm worried that it might damage the phone. I'm sure its taking a hit on battery life too but that isn't much of a problem as the heat.
So thanks in advance to anyone who can answer.
Kris
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I noticed the same heat issue, but i ran my phone (plugged in and overclocked too 900) for 1 week straight in this mode with 4 laptops connected to it (spring break) with no issue.
I guess it may reduce the lifespan of the phone, but who will be running this phone in 2 years?
Sent from my Milstone running CM7

Caz666 said:
I noticed the same heat issue, but i ran my phone (plugged in and overclocked too 900) for 1 week straight in this mode with 4 laptops connected to it (spring break) with no issue.
I guess it may reduce the lifespan of the phone, but who will be running this phone in 2 years?
Sent from my Milstone running CM7
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Ah I see. Thats good to hear. I was wondering something, while it was lugged in was it charging the battery up too? Or was it using it at a fast rate that it didn't charge at all?

linkandzelda said:
Ah I see. Thats good to hear. I was wondering something, while it was lugged in was it charging the battery up too? Or was it using it at a fast rate that it didn't charge at all?
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It was charging and evrything was working.
Sent from my Milstone running CM7

linkandzelda said:
Ah CPU Tuner i see, i was thinking of SetCPU is there a major difference between the two? I'm kinda new to Android stuff hehe.
Thanks,
Kris
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CPU Tuner does more and uses less resources than SetCPU, I'm pretty sure.
Even when I disabled all features of SetCPU, it would remain in memory so I uninstalled it.
I only tried it just to see what the fuss was about, since I was already using CPU Tuner.
I can use a different governor in different profiles which get activitated with different triggers.
I guess that sounds complicated but it's a real easy to understand interface.
With a couple of recent added features, I no longer need Juice Defender
In reality, you can use it to replace SetCPU, Juice Defender and Toggle2g/3g.
And the thing is like a camel.. it barely drinks anything.
Here's some info from a previous post...
I use ondemand, smartass and conservative... sometimes performance (you know... just for benchmarking)
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Smartass is amazing when the screen is off... it will sit at 250mhz nearly the whole time.
Interactive isn't very good for that at all but Conservative is OK.
With the phone unplugged my setup is:
Smartass - battery is above 70% (but not on a phone call) and whenever the screen is off (with reduced overclock).
Conservative - battery below 70% and always when on the phone.

Well that looks great! I will definitely try it out thanks for telling me about it!

You're welcome

zeppelinrox said:
CPU Tuner does more and uses less resources than SetCPU, I'm pretty sure.
Even when I disabled all features of SetCPU, it would remain in memory so I uninstalled it.
I only tried it just to see what the fuss was about, since I was already using CPU Tuner.
I can use a different governor in different profiles which get activitated with different triggers.
I guess that sounds complicated but it's a real easy to understand interface.
With a couple of recent added features, I no longer need Juice Defender
In reality, you can use it to replace SetCPU, Juice Defender and Toggle2g/3g.
And the thing is like a camel.. it barely drinks anything.
Here's some info from a previous post...
I use ondemand, smartass and conservative... sometimes performance (you know... just for benchmarking)
Smartass is amazing when the screen is off... it will sit at 250mhz nearly the whole time.
Interactive isn't very good for that at all but Conservative is OK.
With the phone unplugged my setup is:
Smartass - battery is above 70% (but not on a phone call) and whenever the screen is off (with reduced overclock).
Conservative - battery below 70% and always when on the phone.
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Im using Juce Defender to take care about my CPU speed. U think CPU Tuner is better? Maybe i sould get it if its so awesom...

I place mine in the refridgerator.

It's free... worth a try without risk heh
JD wouldn't do any CPU speed on my rom so I forgot that it even has that feature

what is the best overclock frequency i should tune for x8??

i'm using ginger dx v28> and i flashed overclocking after the Rom So What Is the best frequency to assign as i'm using setcpu 3.1 >

For Stock Kernel .

Set it to as high as you can without the phone rebooting itself the best frequency varies between phones as far as I know
Sent through my X8

love_story99000 said:
i'm using ginger dx v28> and i flashed overclocking after the Rom So What Is the best frequency to assign as i'm using setcpu 3.
I usually gets 710 with stock kernel as best with smartass governor. But u can always test in different clock.
Sung to you by a walkman.....
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Anything below 787 is stable for me (stock kernel) smartass/ondemand.
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so ghost if i raised the frequency above 710 , in further way it will affect my processor or not ???

it's rebooting after it reach 787>but the question here does it affect on processor efficiency

and min Frequency stay as it is or it can be higher too ?????
and thanks all of u for ur replies

love_story99000 said:
it's rebooting after it reach 787>but the question here does it affect on processor efficiency
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No all It does is make ur CPU faster
Sent through my X8

OCing will always affect your processor. It's what it does.
Your oc value, in my experience, is dependent on the user (eg: smoothness/performance vs battery life). Stick with what works for you (but always mind you temp - just to be safe). I can oc above 710 but i rarely go above that cause it's more than enough for my daily/normal use, though i raise it when playong games.
Yes min frequency can be changed. There are a lot of ppl who know mre abt this than me, but (again) personally i prefer to set it at minimum and simply change governors when needed (i set it to on demand when watching videos).
Hope that helps.
Sent from my X8 using xda premium

cascabel said:
OCing will always affect your processor. It's what it does.
Your oc value, in my experience, is dependent on the user (eg: smoothness/performance vs battery life). Stick with what works for you (but always mind you temp - just to be safe). I can oc above 710 but i rarely go above that cause it's more than enough for my daily/normal use, though i raise it when playong games.
Yes min frequency can be changed. There are a lot of ppl who know mre abt this than me, but (again) personally i prefer to set it at minimum and simply change governors when needed (i set it to on demand when watching videos).
Hope that helps.
Sent from my X8 using xda premium
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what is governors and how to change it . i see it in option but i don't change any th

I'm not an expert in overclocking area... but as far as I know a governor is like a whole configuration pack for the CPU behavior: how it must act when the phone is sleeping, how it must act when it "wakes up", how and when it must jump from max to min values... I think that governors can be changed using the performance menu if you are using a cm7 based rom, but they can always be changed from the main screen on setCPU. The group of governors you can use depends from the kernel you have, I think. You can about some governors here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843406
For me the one who has better balance between battery length and cpu speed is smartass V2. Hope I have helped. Good luck!

Oc will affect the cpu life i guess and the battery consumption. Governor will manage the cpu and the battery usage. Eg.when the phone sleeps, wakes, etc. U can use smartass on stock kernel and smartass v02 on custom kernel. From what i read, smartass affect dsp manager.
Hope it helps.
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okai thanxs all i see governor icon in setcpu i wanna the rates of the option in governor to adjust it as i'm using stock kernel
powersave bias 0
ignore nice load 0
show differential 0
up threeshold 0
sampling rate 400000
or is there any other app for govenor only
plz reply me

Im not sure if i understand correctly.
In setcpu there are a couple if tabs. In yhe main tab is where we change freq and governors:
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Now if you want to edit your a governor further you go to the governors tab:
Now the thing is the governor tab changes depending on the governor you set in the main tab. For example, smartass will let you edit more values the, lets say, ondemand.
Now when you're in the governors tab simply tap on the option you want to change, change the value, then hit apply.
Hope that helps.
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i use
cpu: 748 mhz
gob: smartassV2
it goes well
in addition i have swap of 256mb
good luck =)

[Q] what should the average temperature be for sgs i9000..?

Hi peeps
Lately whilst charging my phone from the wall plug adopter it's seems quite than usual.
Does anyone know what temperature averages for the phone, charging & discharging should be..good or bad levels.?
Can anyone shed any light
Thanks y'all
Edit: I downloaded battery indicator app (check battery readings)..it states phone current temperature 47 degrees celsius & in good health..
My phone feels hot, I'm worried its not sick with fever..ha ha lol
Anyways please assist

35-50° for during normal usage underclock and undervolt the CPU for better battery life and lower temperature.

thatdefault said:
35-50° for during normal usage underclock and undervolt the CPU for better battery life and lower temperature.
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I managed to sort the problem..
Thanks for replying
btw I don't anything about how to set what values/voltages on which frequency etc
Anywhere I can read up on and learn how do it..
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You don´t have to worry about your devices temperature, I assure you that they are really durable
..I´ve managed to cook my SGS up to 62C by playing some heavy games while OC-ed
..but I would strongly recommend you not to do that, because it´s not very good for your phones health or your fingers. (you´ll get burned)
PS.yes, my phone still works very well if you were wondering.
As you can see in the left bottom corner of the battery widget there is temperature showing in Celsius and on the opposite side battery percentage (very similar to the phones temperature LOL )
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My phone reaches 65 C when playing MC3 online
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Roots said:
I managed to sort the problem..
Thanks for replying
btw I don't anything about how to set what values/voltages on which frequency etc
Anywhere I can read up on and learn how do it..
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Apps like Voltage control and NSTools can control voltage values.
http://bigfatreality.blogspot.com/2012/04/complete-android-undervolting-guide.html?m=1 Really helpful guide for beginners

just wanted to.say my phone was running at 75c for hours in the sun and it was fine
.

Custom Rom have a big temparature phone . I Have 50°c with charging or hotter

I read some article starting over-hearing can affect CPU, gradually performance gets worse..
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well let me join the club...i had my running this days on 60c also, dont know if it will effect the battery on a longer term, but for now i dont see any changes, so dont worry 47c is childs play

Mine gets to 55 playing temple run lol. If I'm home I just take off the back cover
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AlwaysDroid said:
Mine gets to 55 playing temple run lol. If I'm home I just take off the back cover
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Have you overclocked
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Temperature
So I'll join topic too cos im woried about my phone I just got it few days ago, and installed stock JW4 and semaphore kernel. On idle temperature is about 28-33*C and when using WiFi for some downloading its about 41-45*C. I plugged it in with USB in lap, and used 3G network and wifi hotspot and it went up to 55*C in few mins. Got worried and plug it off USB. Also I dont like it cos display is also warm to touch, not only back. So guys is this normal? I had Samsung Galaxy 3 before and didnt have such heating... Thanks for answers!

You guys know how to run a phone hot!

[Q] is it normal i can run cpu without problemsat 864MHz?

hi there !
as written in the topic i'm using gingerzaraki rom and i overclocked till 864MHz and it looks like normal, without any problems? i ask this because most of people don't run at that frequency

white_cat said:
hi there !
as written in the topic i'm using gingerzaraki rom and i overclocked till 864MHz and it looks like normal, without any problems? i ask this because most of people don't run at that frequency
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What a lucky guy!!!!
Absolutely it can decrease your x8's life due damages to chip set & overhead.(+high battery drain)
anyways overclocking more than 729 MHz is not recommended (by me)
& over clock to 864 just in benchmarking
Sent From My BEAST , I mean X8

white_cat said:
hi there !
as written in the topic i'm using gingerzaraki rom and i overclocked till 864MHz and it looks like normal, without any problems? i ask this because most of people don't run at that frequency
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That's too much overclocking
But your CPU can handle that
Some device get rebooted on 787+:sly:
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i guess i will scale at a lower frequency, i wouldnt like a burned phone but it seemed cool at 864

white_cat said:
i guess i will scale at a lower frequency, i wouldnt like a burned phone but it seemed cool at 864
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Lol! it will not burn that requires too much heat ...
But it will decrease life definitely
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Firstly you can't burn phone with overclocking.
Seconldy, stability of cpu depends on the level of batery. For example: My phone runs 806mhz without any problem when batery is fully charged. When baterry level is about 60% my phone is much more unstable. So try to set this frequency when your battery level is low.

Are you sure its x8?
Lol
What have you done to your phone??:what:
:good: as long as you don't have any problem its ok

Do a big smile, because you are lucky. And this is normal, the 7x27 chips can handle 8-900 MHz without any problem, but the most x8 owner have low quality SoC with 600 MHz, the high quality chips marked and sold as 7x27T with 800MHz default clock (you can find it in low end galaxy models and other phones what equipped with 7x27 but the default clock is 800 MHz).
Wait while the battery level is only 10-15% and burn the phone with games/benchmarks. If the phone not freeze while the battery turn to empty, you can use this frequency (when the battery level is low, the cpu got lower voltage, this is normal, the difference not significant, only few mV but sometime this is enough to make the phone unstable).
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i used 864MHz when battery was at 7% and i did antutu benchmark score was about 3780...it's stable also with very low battery
anyway the score wasn't so good i guess because sdcard is really bad
i will post screenshot of battery and antutu as soon as i go again at low batter

white_cat said:
i used 864MHz when battery was at 7% and i did antutu benchmark score was about 3780...it's stable also with very low battery
anyway the score wasn't so good i guess because sdcard is really bad
i will post screenshot of battery and antutu as soon as i go again at low batter
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:what:
This score is very good:thumbup:
Mine is only around 2500 without overclocking
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I dont think theres any life drop on the cpu when overclocking too much - contrary to what people believe. Ive oced dozens of cpus and havent seen one burn and die from that. All modern chips will simply reset if they cant handle it.
My shakira can easily handle 800+ so its always running at these levels since i got it. And yea, its better at benchmarks like this
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nobodyAtall said:
I dont think theres any life drop on the cpu when overclocking too much - contrary to what people believe. Ive oced dozens of cpus and havent seen one burn and die from that. All modern chips will simply reset if they cant handle it.
My shakira can easily handle 800+ so its always running at these levels since i got it. And yea, its better at benchmarks like this
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Soo
Shall we overclock at maximum possible value??

You men are lucky. I just insmod the overclock module and the system fails in seconds

xWhiskey said:
You men are lucky. I just insmod the overclock module and the system fails in seconds
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I think you are the only one whose system crashed just after using insmod command

Gogeta said:
I think you are the only one whose system crashed just after using insmod command
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Aye. My mother always said I was special.

xWhiskey said:
Aye. My mother always said I was special.
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can you write in detail the steps you did? the module and insmod.
[cAs]

cascabel said:
can you write in detail the steps you did? the module and insmod.
[cAs]
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The ROM already had the module, but it wasn't provisioned for in hw_config because of possible instabilities. All I did was to insmod it via Terminal Emulator just to see if the overclock was possible, but the system crashed almost instantly. When the ROM was still fresh, it actually managed to work, but everything was extremely slow and laggy. My idea is either that the stock kernel or the ROM just don't do that well with overclocking, so I just abandoned the concept completely. Besides, I'm satisfied with the performance anyway. No need for perfectionism here

Is this a common problem for everyone? (Small problem)

Before we start, I'm running The latest firmware .757 with Advanced Kernel.
So the problem is the minimum frequency is shown as 1190Mhz but it's running as low as 300Mhz. Tried changing it to show 300Mhz but it keeps changing back to 1190Mhz.
Any ideas? It's not a big problem but it's becoming very annoying.
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LeParkour012 said:
Before we start, I'm running The latest firmware .757 with Advanced Kernel.
So the problem is the minimum frequency is shown as 1190Mhz but it's running as low as 300Mhz. Tried changing it to show 300Mhz but it keeps changing back to 1190Mhz.
Any ideas? It's not a big problem but it's becoming very annoying.
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You don't use all the time the maximum frequency of CPU cores...i've tested myself with the same Antutu CPU Benchmark and i have the same, in IDLE the cpus frequency is 300Mhz, if i start a game that jump to higher frequency, there is nothing stange here.

I'm talking about what these 2 app shows me. My minimum frequency is 300Mhz yet it's showing 1190Mhz.
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LeParkour012 said:
I'm talking about what these 2 app shows me. My minimum frequency is 300Mhz yet it's showing 1190Mhz.
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That mean that the minimal frequency is 300Mhz i don't understand your problem i have the same thing, when the phone is IDLing it's at 300Mhz, that seems legit.

Yes my minimum frequency is 300MHz but both the screenshots is telling me that my minimum frequency is 1190Mhz, which is wrong. My problem is that they're not telling me the correct frequency.
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LeParkour012 said:
Yes my minimum frequency is 300MHz but both the screenshots is telling me that my minimum frequency is 1190Mhz, which is wrong. My problem is that they're not telling me the correct frequency.
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The first one said your current frequency is 300Mhz (your phone IDLE) and minimum 1190, this app seems just broken or wrong.
The 2nd clearly show the minimum is 300Mhz and the current is 422,4Mhz
I trust Antutu CPU Master because i have the same results.

Try a different CPU app, like set cpu, see what that says, i think it could just be a glitch on that CPU app.
Chances are it's reporting it wrongly and it'll be down to the app, if it was on 1190 all the time your battery life would really suffer for it.
Also try to alter the governor in the app, could be that on another one like interactive or power save it'll yield different results.

This is because of Qualcomm MP-Decision that controls the hotplugging, that tells the CPU to boost MIN freq to 1190 Mhz to fake UI smoothness and response, about 2-3 second then ramp quickly down to 300 Mhz, and then do the same over and over again. Good for performance, bad for battery.
This is also a part of Qualcomms own Project Butter solution - using / forcing the device into overdrive mode w/o any thoughts on heat generation / stuttering by nearly instant & uneven shifting between frequencies, thanks to a built-in touch boost feature that is boosting the phone to 1190 Mhz in Z1 case, was at 1026 Mhz frequency spectrum at Z / devices that used the same QC shipset as the Z.
This is fixed by @faux123 in his rewritten Intelliplug module, that conserves / keeps the performance (even improves it..) and boosting battery life with a more natural step pattern through your device various CPU clock frequencies.
EDIT: More easy understood info on those two links!
Link 1
Link 2
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I have the same problem. Can't even set my min frequency to any other then 300MHz.
Would like to raise it a bit becose sometimes its freezing when starting the camera using the physica button.
I can only change the max frequency.
Any help Would be very appreciated.
Thank you
Z1 4.4.4 stock & locked bootloader

I had the same problem, just try the No-frills cpu control it works for me (when your phone is idle it will always running at 300 because it is trying to save battery)