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What is reasonable battery use?

I diconnected my phone from the charger, and it was at 100% at 830 this morning and now at 1130 it is at 56%/. This is after probably abotu 1-1.5 hours of browsing the web on my phone and configuring widgets.
I was wondering if that is normal battery drain? I have been flashing my phone quite a bit lately and it seems that the battery life is not that great. I have already recalibrated my battery as well.
Also my phone is overclocked to 1.3ghz.

You might want a second opinion but I'm going to say yes
If there is evil in this world it lurks in the hearts of man.

1130 AM? If so that is not good at all.

Not good at all, I am running Pinnacle 1.2 for 29. 5 hours since last charge and I have 29% remaining, that includes roughly 3 hours display on time and just shy of 1 hour phone calls.
Very happy with Pinnacle 1.2

ridethelight said:
1130 AM? If so that is not good at all.
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Yeah 11:30 AM. Perhaps I should look into flashing another rom, although I have been very happy with Apex 9.2 except with this battery issue.

BumRush said:
Yeah 11:30 AM. Perhaps I should look into flashing another rom, although I have been very happy with Apex 9.2 except with this battery issue.
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If you're on Apex, try going without the overclock and switching to the DarkCore kernel. That might help your battery life a little bit.

Did the phone feel hot?
What kind of sites were you hitting? White background? Lot's of Flash?
You've got three things that I see hitting your battery hard - the data transfers, the screen and the CPU usage. Depending on how your overclock is set up, I'd guess it's causing your CPU to use at least 30% more juice.
I can get days of idle time, but only hours of heavy use out of my battery. There are certain web sites and games that seem to suck the battery dry.

jmtheiss said:
If you're on Apex, try going without the overclock and switching to the DarkCore kernel. That might help your battery life a little bit.
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I am already running dc 3.1. I may try to undo the overclock.
Mr.Immaculate said:
Did the phone feel hot?
What kind of sites were you hitting? White background? Lot's of Flash?
You've got three things that I see hitting your battery hard - the data transfers, the screen and the CPU usage. Depending on how your overclock is set up, I'd guess it's causing your CPU to use at least 30% more juice.
I can get days of idle time, but only hours of heavy use out of my battery. There are certain web sites and games that seem to suck the battery dry.
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Nothing really intensive. Mostly just xda forums.

I notice that I get much better battery life with i897 roms vs i9000 roms.
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Sounds like you have an app running wild.

Well when my phone is on standby, I find that it drains at a reasonable rate. It is just when I use my phone that it drains fairly quickly.

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MZCaptivate said:
Not good at all, I am running Pinnacle 1.2 for 29. 5 hours since last charge and I have 29% remaining, that includes roughly 3 hours display on time and just shy of 1 hour phone calls.
Very happy with Pinnacle 1.2
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29.5 hours? With Pinnacle 1.2 I'm getting about 8 hours with moderate use

Agree with jsfLip!
With moderate use, my Cap get out of battery in 8-10h.
Iam using Pinnacle 1.2, its standby status is quite good! 1-2% after 8h standby at night!
Please have a try!
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What's your combo? (rom, kernel, modem?), Ben?

I agree with Ben. You're doing something wrong.
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jsfLip said:
29.5 hours? With Pinnacle 1.2 I'm getting about 8 hours with moderate use
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and whats the definition of moderate use? Sorry I ask this but I have seen people with 4:30 hours of display calling it moderate.
Plus you need to caliberate your battery

Can't figure it out.
To: miztaken1312
I've tried different settings on my phone and have not been able to get your kind of battery life.
I recently flashed MosaicVI and using the JV6 modem. After using this modem I have been getting better results but not quite as good as your.
What I'm trying to find out is there any certain setting you have your phone in, i.e. only on WiFI, Auto Display, sound, Disabling Your data when not using it? I would really love to get this kind of results. I'm sure everyone else would to.
Oh, I've also cycled my phone battery 3 times everytime I flash a different ROM. Please school me up on how to get those results.
P.S. I tried to quote you and reply but me being new to posting comments did not let me.

Go to market and download "Data switch". You will see marked improvement to your battery life.

So is that the secret? "Data switch".

All it does is turn off data usage so your cappy is not using data for all the background services (synch and such). Its what I use when I want the battery to last and don't need a data connection.

Too HOTTTT

Hi guys i overclocked 748mhz smartass,minimax....
And now i go on browswer and go back to the screen and saw this....
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You can see 42C pls help with some program or etc pls help ://
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This is normal. You must lower frequencies to reduce temperature.
Hit the THANKS button if I helped!!
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Yes it happens in overclocking, in multitasking, sometimes when playing games or when gps, wifi etc. are all open. Just set default CPU freq. and try not to open too many apps altogether your temperature should lower. Oh, and if you have 3G enabled, disabling could increase battery life and reduce temperature

fenixcro said:
Hi guys i overclocked 748mhz smartass,minimax....
And now i go on browswer and go back to the screen and saw this....
You can see 42C pls help with some program or etc pls help ://
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42 degrees is not TOO HOT!! That chip can get up to 110-130 degrees before failing so dont worry about it. If your phone gets a little bit warm just lower the CPU clock speed. I would not worry about that temperature!!

Well I think it's frustating. So,I set 613mhz for normal use. I only set 749 when playing games.
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bahmonkeys said:
42 degrees is not TOO HOT!! That chip can get up to 110-130 degrees before failing so dont worry about it. If your phone gets a little bit warm just lower the CPU clock speed. I would not worry about that temperature!!
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It doesn't harm the cpu but it harms the battery.
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Nikkopt said:
It doesn't harm the cpu but it harms the battery.
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Everything you do harms the battery. Your battery is always dying. There are ways to slow the dying rate but it is inevitable

bahmonkeys said:
Everything you do harms the battery. Your battery is always dying. There are ways to slow the dying rate but it is inevitable
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Of course, any battery starts dying the moment it leaves the assembly line in the factory.
Heat accelerates the aging time ALOT..
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Be Smart..
When my phone battery get too hot(37-42 degree celcius)i usually open my phone's battery cover and put a fan behind my phone..and it help to reduce the temperature especially when i play games..

Nikkopt said:
Of course, any battery starts dying the moment it leaves the assembly line in the factory.
Heat accelerates the aging time ALOT..
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Ya of course i know!!! If your battery gets warm, normally what i do is stop what im doing but this isn't what most people will do. Take off the back cover and give your battery some room to breath. The samsung s2 is not built very well hit heat in mind. Its because of the CPU/GPU they generate a lot of heat. The heat syncs for them goes around the battery and this in turn makes your battery warm. As phones are getting faster i wonder how they are going to deal with the excess heat!? The CPU and GPU are to the left of your camera which probably everyone has felt mass heat from that area. I usually keep my phone under clocked to 800MHz for normal use (sending messages, phone calls, browsing the internet etc). Its really smooth and stable. When i play games i do put the clock speed back up to 1200MHz. I usually get 3-4 and sometimes 5 days battery life

50C
i got my temp up to 52C.. too hot.. i was startled and quikly removed the battery.. haha.. i thought my X8 was gonna die.. but, it still works fine..
i set the CPU to the same freq as u use. but it happend when i used USBtethering, and connected to internet on 3G.. the temp also increases when i use my phone browsing online on 3G.. but i turn 3G off when the temp reaches 40C..

So with OCing and all, what's the safest max temp of our x8/w8?
I never let mine go above 41 degrees c. How far can i go above that safely (not harming anything but the battery)?
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Lol by too hot i thought you meant the red statusbar icons

cascabel said:
So with OCing and all, what's the safest max temp of our x8/w8?
I never let mine go above 41 degrees c. How far can i go above that safely (not harming anything but the battery)?
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am i the only one who read the manuals?!i guess i am...:silly:
"For optimum performance, the product should not be operated in tempratures below -10C(+14F) or above +45C(+113F). Do not expose the battery to tempratures above +60C(+140F)."

Help. Drain issue...

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i full wiped and install kd v7.1 notecore v10.... whhat is that battery consumption... what is wrong how can i solve
thanks

hotboy_ist said:
i full wiped and install kd v7.1 notecore v10.... whhat is that battery consumption... what is wrong how can i solve
thanks
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Just see that you not overclocking the CPU. Try CPU Spy from market & see how much percentage each cpu speed is working. Also use Set CPU to limit you CPU speed.
From my experience of KD + Notecore, I found there was a heavy battery drain. So I shifted to Speed Mod K3-11. You may try what suits you.

Yin-Yang said:
Just see that you not overclocking the CPU. Try CPU Spy from market & see how much percentage each cpu speed is working. Also use Set CPU to limit you CPU speed.
From my experience of KD + Notecore, I found there was a heavy battery drain. So I shifted to Speed Mod K3-11. You may try what suits you.
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I added CPU spy scr.. Mostly deep sleep but, android os and Media drains battery....

hotboy_ist said:
I added CPU spy scr.. Mostly deep sleep but, android os and Media drains battery....
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This could be a rogue app - however, have you checked your app sync schedules etc, Are you syncing widgets every 5-10 mins?
I also think that the overall Android OS encompasses the Download / Data / Android System values but I am happy to be corrected if this is not true..

hotboy_ist said:
I added CPU spy scr.. Mostly deep sleep but, android os and Media drains battery....
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Have you tried changing kernels? I saw that your on NoteCore kernel I used Notecore before and though it optimizes the performance of your phone, but it's also a battery drainer. Try to use speedmod kernel and see if there's a considerable change on your battery drain issue.
I was experimenting a lot of kernels on my phone before (as my goal was for a better battery life...) SpeedMod never fails to amaze me till now.

letters_to_cleo said:
Have you tried changing kernels? I saw that your on NoteCore kernel I used Notecore before and though it optimizes the performance of your phone, but it's also a battery drainer. Try to use speedmod kernel and see if there's a considerable change on your battery drain issue.
I was experimenting a lot of kernels on my phone before (as my goal was for a better battery life...) SpeedMod never fails to amaze me till now.
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+1 for SpeedCore - Otherwise - Try NoteCore STD and make sure you've deleted the init.d scrips as per the thread..

Even speedmod is also draining like a hell. 4% dropped in just 5 minutes of usage of browsing
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Had the same problem a while ago. After switching sim card.
Thanks to better battery stats I found exchange service was going berserk. Switched to pop every 15 mins instead of pushmail and the drain issue went away.
Minor nuissance mail isn't pushed anymore but sure as hell beats beats batterylife of 10-12 hours idle and in deep sleep. Now I'm back to the usual 2-3 day charge cycle.
The moral of the story: get better battery stats http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809.
See what app is wakelocking your Note. And do something about it...

Now im on speed mod kernel and it is looking more stable in battery life but i will check it couple of hours

hotboy_ist said:
Now im on speed mod kernel and it is looking more stable in battery life but i will check it couple of hours
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Rest assured speed mod gives you ample battery life bud. (Though I'm using the k3-9 and not the k3-11, the 9 version is simply amazing!)
Don't forget to hit the 'Thank's button if I've helped you in some ways or the other.
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[Q] is it normal i can run cpu without problemsat 864MHz?

hi there !
as written in the topic i'm using gingerzaraki rom and i overclocked till 864MHz and it looks like normal, without any problems? i ask this because most of people don't run at that frequency

white_cat said:
hi there !
as written in the topic i'm using gingerzaraki rom and i overclocked till 864MHz and it looks like normal, without any problems? i ask this because most of people don't run at that frequency
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What a lucky guy!!!!
Absolutely it can decrease your x8's life due damages to chip set & overhead.(+high battery drain)
anyways overclocking more than 729 MHz is not recommended (by me)
& over clock to 864 just in benchmarking
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white_cat said:
hi there !
as written in the topic i'm using gingerzaraki rom and i overclocked till 864MHz and it looks like normal, without any problems? i ask this because most of people don't run at that frequency
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That's too much overclocking
But your CPU can handle that
Some device get rebooted on 787+:sly:
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i guess i will scale at a lower frequency, i wouldnt like a burned phone but it seemed cool at 864

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i guess i will scale at a lower frequency, i wouldnt like a burned phone but it seemed cool at 864
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Lol! it will not burn that requires too much heat ...
But it will decrease life definitely
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Firstly you can't burn phone with overclocking.
Seconldy, stability of cpu depends on the level of batery. For example: My phone runs 806mhz without any problem when batery is fully charged. When baterry level is about 60% my phone is much more unstable. So try to set this frequency when your battery level is low.

Are you sure its x8?
Lol
What have you done to your phone??:what:
:good: as long as you don't have any problem its ok

Do a big smile, because you are lucky. And this is normal, the 7x27 chips can handle 8-900 MHz without any problem, but the most x8 owner have low quality SoC with 600 MHz, the high quality chips marked and sold as 7x27T with 800MHz default clock (you can find it in low end galaxy models and other phones what equipped with 7x27 but the default clock is 800 MHz).
Wait while the battery level is only 10-15% and burn the phone with games/benchmarks. If the phone not freeze while the battery turn to empty, you can use this frequency (when the battery level is low, the cpu got lower voltage, this is normal, the difference not significant, only few mV but sometime this is enough to make the phone unstable).
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i used 864MHz when battery was at 7% and i did antutu benchmark score was about 3780...it's stable also with very low battery
anyway the score wasn't so good i guess because sdcard is really bad
i will post screenshot of battery and antutu as soon as i go again at low batter

white_cat said:
i used 864MHz when battery was at 7% and i did antutu benchmark score was about 3780...it's stable also with very low battery
anyway the score wasn't so good i guess because sdcard is really bad
i will post screenshot of battery and antutu as soon as i go again at low batter
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:what:
This score is very good:thumbup:
Mine is only around 2500 without overclocking
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I dont think theres any life drop on the cpu when overclocking too much - contrary to what people believe. Ive oced dozens of cpus and havent seen one burn and die from that. All modern chips will simply reset if they cant handle it.
My shakira can easily handle 800+ so its always running at these levels since i got it. And yea, its better at benchmarks like this
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nobodyAtall said:
I dont think theres any life drop on the cpu when overclocking too much - contrary to what people believe. Ive oced dozens of cpus and havent seen one burn and die from that. All modern chips will simply reset if they cant handle it.
My shakira can easily handle 800+ so its always running at these levels since i got it. And yea, its better at benchmarks like this
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Soo
Shall we overclock at maximum possible value??

You men are lucky. I just insmod the overclock module and the system fails in seconds

xWhiskey said:
You men are lucky. I just insmod the overclock module and the system fails in seconds
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I think you are the only one whose system crashed just after using insmod command

Gogeta said:
I think you are the only one whose system crashed just after using insmod command
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Aye. My mother always said I was special.

xWhiskey said:
Aye. My mother always said I was special.
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can you write in detail the steps you did? the module and insmod.
[cAs]

cascabel said:
can you write in detail the steps you did? the module and insmod.
[cAs]
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The ROM already had the module, but it wasn't provisioned for in hw_config because of possible instabilities. All I did was to insmod it via Terminal Emulator just to see if the overclock was possible, but the system crashed almost instantly. When the ROM was still fresh, it actually managed to work, but everything was extremely slow and laggy. My idea is either that the stock kernel or the ROM just don't do that well with overclocking, so I just abandoned the concept completely. Besides, I'm satisfied with the performance anyway. No need for perfectionism here

[Q] Incredibly hot battery temp!

Hi, I overclocked my One to 2.16 GHz (CPU) and 450 MHz (GPU)... when I play heavy games I reach really hot temperatures, the highest I get was 56.5 ℃ (133.7 ℉)... My question is: can the phone handle temperatures like these, or I risk to "fry" it?
P.S.: Sorry for my bad english!

It'll shut off when it gets too hot. 56.5 should be fine for playing games
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Why would you overclock a already fast phone to 2.16ghz ?

drakeymcmb said:
Why would you overclock a already fast phone to 2.16ghz ?
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The same reason people overclock their computer's, for that last little oompf
Enjoy your free thanks, i didn't mean to

Ugh don't overclock then...
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Why would you overclock a already fast phone to 2.16ghz ?
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Also wondering...in comparision videos of galaxy s4 vs the htc one i see the galaxy s4 starts apps faster and loads maps faster ingame.
Maybe this makes the difference or makes the one even faster?
Someone should do a video.
Also whats your battery life while gaming if i may ask?

drakeymcmb said:
Why would you overclock a already fast phone to 2.16ghz ?
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To see how far can it go. But if the temp is unsafe, I will downclock it.
@xxquicksh0txx: Are you sure? So can I consider 56.5 ℃ a Sade temperature?

xxquicksh0txx said:
The same reason people overclock their computer's, for that last little oompf
Enjoy your free thanks, i didn't mean to
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But at least on the PC you can feel the extra 2fps /sarcasm

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Hi, I overclocked my One to
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Duh. No wonder it is overheating.

borgqueenx said:
Also whats your battery life while gaming if i may ask?
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I don't know because I play with the phone plugged in the charger.

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But at least on the PC you can feel the extra 2fps /sarcasm
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True, there really is no point in overclocking right now. Seeing as we can max out everything basically.
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Don't play while recharging the phone, makes the phone heat up faster
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I think that it will "fry" soon at 2.16 Ghz

ImJacky said:
I think that it will "fry" soon at 2.16 Ghz
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It is indeed dangerous to pressure your phone for a long period of time at those levels. If I want to play games I fire up my Xbox.
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mate this is not a PC... it doesnt have the tolerances to hold such a high overclock. replace the heatsink with a noctua or something like i have in my pc below then you can overclock as much as you want. Dont cry the day your phone stops working
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aliquo93 said:
I don't know because I play with the phone plugged in the charger.
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I'm starting to think you're a troll.

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I'm starting to think you're a troll.
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No, I'm not, lol. If I play with the phone unplugged the battery goes down too quickly.
Anyway, I heard that HTC tests their devices at hot temperatures, and I know that when a phone overheates too much, it reboots automatically, like a PC. It's never happened to me, so I think it's stable for now.

aliquo93 said:
No, I'm not, lol. If I play with the phone unplugged the battery goes down too quickly.
Anyway, I heard that HTC tests their devices at hot temperatures, and I know that when a phone overheates too much, it reboots automatically, like a PC. It's never happened to me, so I think it's stable for now.
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I think you should bump it down to 1.9 GHz and undervolt it a tad, and be sure to play unplugged, no matter what the battery is like. If you're finding the battery poor, I assue you that I find most games work fine at 1.1GHz ( Power Saving mode ON) with only neglible slower loading times (some games will take 10 seconds longer to load, but the battery is much improved). Turning your brightness down will also help to reduce those temperatures and increase the battery life while gaming.

In hamdir's gaming thread he did a test that showed underclocking the cpu didn't affect gaming (same as overclocking) since the gpu continued to run at 400mhz (or 450 when overclocked). Either way there is no need to really burn the thing at 2.16 unless you plan on using aftermarket cooling lol