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switch from AT&T service?

I have a dilemma and I was hoping some of the senior member could give me a little feedback. I've been an ATT customer for years and today something unusual happened. I got a taste of 3g in my home area (york, PA) and it was delightful (i was giddy like a little kid with a new toy). Pretty much north, south, east and west of me has 3g, but not old york. I was about to do a speed test on my laptop, after some browsing and funking around with my phone, but then it went back to edge . I've been waiting a while for 3g access and it seems klike I'm never going to get it, so I'm considering moving to another carrier. Do you guys have any suggestions or any feedback you can give me about your carriers, (US only please).

Yes, Change carriers., Because T-Mobile JUST released 3G in New York. So your town will get it in no time.
That doesn't leave much.
Now since you are posting this in the Kaiser Section, I'm going to assume you run a Tilt. The Tilt is a GSM phone, you have two choices for GSM service. AT&T and T-Mobile. Which means AT&T, unfortunately, is your best bet.

I'm in york, Pennsylvania so that won't really help but thanks. It seems like I do have 3G because my coworkers phone says 3G now. but it keeps switching back to edge. Also is there a way to get it to say 3g instead of the little h symbol?

dsoler702 said:
I'm in york, Pennsylvania so that won't really help but thanks. It seems like I do have 3G because my coworkers phone says 3G now. but it keeps switching back to edge. Also is there a way to get it to say 3g instead of the little h symbol?
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"H" Is 3.5G. Or more specifically If it says "H" you have better then 3G.
But to answer your question directly.
If you have Advanced Config Look in there under Data Connections for HSDPA Icon, and Disable it.
Also, don't complain to much about switching between 3G and Edge. There are some Senior Member that don't have 3G at ALL, right Scotchua?

so H is really better than 3G

dsoler702 said:
so H is really better than 3G
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Yes it is. AT&T hypes "3G" because it is a recognizable buzzword, but "H" is above 3G in speed.

would you buy again the DIAMOND if you would'nt be able to use under 3G?

hi, that is the question.
Would you buy the DIAMOND again if you know you can't use the data transfer under the 3G technology??? is it worth the us$500 or eur450????

I dont really care about 3g when wifi is so readily available.

3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol

for me 3G is essential as I use my Diamond extensively on Telstra's 850Mhz 3G network, and I can get far better coverage in regional parts of Australia. 3G is also essential for me as I use my Diamond as an external modem connected to my laptop. I could not imagine trying to use the internet at dialup speeds!! (or not at all due to lack of coverage)

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3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol
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3G is a masssive bonus, especially when dealing with moving large files or for video calls. web pages are not so important.
As for stealing WIFI i think there is a strong moral question about doing that, especially as there are still people who are charge by the amount of data they use. Would you pick their pockets?
Thankfully most of the wifi spots i see people are wise enough to use WPA encryption. But still some people are relying on nothing or just WEP

in france we are massively under H (or a 3.5g or 3g+) so we don't care about 3g it's only when we goes to foreign country... but funny things there is a lack of wifi spot here

I'd buy it (again - my Touch Pro that is) in a second.
We do have quite spread UMTS and not bad HSPA and even some hot spots, but all these are just things "outside" the device; and the device rulez.

3g great...but
must turn off where overseas
don't want a big bill waiting for when i get home

I don't much care for the 3G, it's a nice bonus but it's not the reason I bought the Diamond.
The Diamond is the perfect phone for me (especially after I found this place and was able to upgrade the software tremendously) and I would certainly buy it again.
My biggest complaint in that the screen is so easily scratched. I hate using screen protectors and never really had a problem with scratches on my previous touch screen (Treo 700wx) like I do now. But minor issues as far as I'm concerned. I definitley don't have a problem with the battery as many others do, as I've become quite accustomed to carrying spare batteries since I use my devices quite a bit.
Good phone, even better tech support (here). How can you go wrong?

3G is a must!!! Still waiting over here in the U.S.

hi
3g isn't a a must, if you want to brows the internet get a computer, but for some people who work out in the field and needs Internet service then sure 3G is fun, but other wise than browsing the Internet you don't really need it, but for someone who is one of those emo Internet people myspace youtube what not, that its for u.

The answer depends on where you live as well as what you use your phone for.
In UK (and most of Western Europe) we have very good 3G and even 3.5G networks that can give us mobile broadband at very good speeds - not up to best wired speeds but getting close. You can really notice the difference between that and slow old GPRS when downloading emails or surfing the real web (rather than just WAP).
On the other hand in the UK free wifi spots are few and far between - most require some sort of payment or subscription - Holiday Inn hotels for example want £15 per day, and Hilton are £10! And most private companies (and households like mine) that use wifi lock their access so you can't park outside and piggy back.
Because there has been so much investment in these new technologies they are being pushed hard by the phone companies and many contracts for phones now come with "free" bundled data access. My HTC comes with "unlimited" downloads (sunbject as always to a fair use policy that I have never got near).
I understand that in other parts of the world including the US the roll out of this sort of technology is less advanced, and so the arguments for having 3G are less convincing at the moment.

I would not have bought the Diamond without 3G. 3G(Hdspa) is an absolutley must!
/How do I change my country settings? I've changed it...

3g is the s**t lol
i gotta say once you use 3G (HSDPA) you will never go back, most if the time i don't even bother connecting to WIFI coz there is honestly hardly any speed difference if you have good reception (and i have unlimited data plan).
Luckily i live the the UK and with orange we have decent coverage and the speed is increasing over the next year of so

COLOMBIA
HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...

Well I bought my Diamond (european version) not knowing that 3G wouldn't work in the US. Despite that, It was going in for some repairs at HTC America with Canada post and somehow, the phone got "lost" (yeah right).
So now, I'm getting back my insurance money and I will most probably buy another Diamond not taking into consideration weather 3G works or not.

Mrok said:
HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...
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purchase a Telstra DIAM130 one from Australia and it will have 850Mhz 3G

3g or 2g
I'm in the camp of MUST have 3g, in AU with telstra and all prior htc phones have had 3g BUT I went and grabbed a Diamond 100 a while back BEFORE we all really knew about the different models being hardware (bands) different so long story short I've got 2g only and it sucks big time.
Reception outside of metro very average, data s l o w ..no video callls and
I live in the country area, even chucked my sim card into my wifes old motorola v3xx., Yea pink as well........
I am using the Diamond as I like the phone/features
I'm looking to buy a 3g Diamond or renew/upgrade my plan due next month.
Then the hardly used Diamond100 will hit ebay and thats it.
(Unless someone in AU is looking to swap as Diam100 works on Optus/Voda etc, but not telstra)
So if your provider is going to get compatible phones then wait, otherwise like driving a v8 in first gear.

nexus one, AT&T VS. T-MOBILE & HSPA+

So ive had my nexus one on AT&T since march and I am very happy with the device. Then I got the text that they changed me to the 30 dollar plan. I dont have a contract anymore too and I can cancel any time I want. Im thinking of switching to T-mobile. I was gonna switch to sprint but changed my mind after I tryed the evo. 3g on sprint sucks and 4g is unreliable and non-existent in NYC yet. Ive heard many problems about the nexus one and the only problem I had on mine was a purple tint when its under 10% brightness. Does the t-mobile nexus one have problems? Is t-mobiles service good in NYC and in Brooklyn? Is hspa+ in NYC and in Brooklyn and how fast is it? I hope the t-mobile nexus one owners can help me out, especially the ones that are in NYC. I hope you guys can help me, Im starting to hate at&t and I love my nexus one

The nexus one was my first phone on t-mobile and I love it. T-mobile is great, their small enough to not be snobby carriers, yet large enough to have large coverage and service. I was an ATT'er before and I will never go back I love t-mobile, and their cheaper on average. As for NYC I cant really help you as Im a Vegas guy but cheers and good luck either way.

here is a thread that i just read, not sure how credible it is because I am not in NYC but this is a guy you may wanna have a chat with.
sorry cant find the thread anymore.
From what my cousin tells me, he is in Rockaway Township, NJ, He has very fast HSPA.
here is a bit of information that came up doing a search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6454391
The Nexus does max out at 7.2mbps though so thats the absolute fastest you will get. Not to shabby IMHO

Re: nexus one, AT&T VS. T-MOBILE
You can't beat using T-Mobile, as their coverage and plans are greater than decent in the us . I've been with them for four years and wont be turning back any time soon. I don't do cdma and att has bad plans now. Im in Boston and go to BK and Manhattan, NYC often. I get great coverage there.

I was just in Manhattan with my T-mobile N1 and I found the coverage to be great. Didn't do any speed tests but got HSPA+ all the way. I'm sure ultimately ATT coverage is better but like the other poster said, T-Mobile is cheaper and their customer service is awesome. If you stick to the urban areas nationally you'll be pretty happy with T-mo service. If you're travelling in less populated areas you may find coverage lacking. That's what I've found anyway.

hspa+
how fast is hspa+ on the nexus one in Manhattan and in Brooklyn,NY? Im thinking about switching from my nexus on att and I wanna know how fast it is. In Brooklyn i get avg of 2 mbps and 2.9 mbps in manhattan. I have had peaks of 3.5 mbps. Also, does the tmobile nexus one have lots of problems, like 3g connectivity, cause on my att nexus, the only pproblem i had was a purple tint when under 10 percent brightness. Hope u guys can help me out

didn't you just ask this?

Blueman101 said:
didn't you just ask this?
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Um...yeah, I just had serious deja vu as well when I read this...
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696552

The other thread by him with responses is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696605
mets3214 do you know how to find forum topic discussions (aka threads) you've created already? if not we can help you out with that so you don't create 3 of basically the same topic. Also a good idea is to choose a title for your thread relevant to what you want to talk about. IE better title might be "HSDPA+ in NYC Area?", "Do these speed tests mean I have HSDPA+ in my area (NYC)?".

merged 'hspa+' to this thread to reduce duplication.

I am in Manhattan, I just did the speedtest with T-Mobile connection, average 3mb down and 1.2mb up. I live in Brooklyn with no drop call and the service is very reliable.

You are aware that if you go to T-Mobile with your AT&T Nexus you'll only get EDGE, right? They use different frequencies for 3G. You would need a different model of the Nexus to get 3G on T-Mobile.

I have been with Tmobile for almost two years and four years before that. I have tried Sprint and AT&T and have gone back to Tmobile two times. AT&T thier service is the worst, those commercials with the orange coverage maps - the orange on those maps show where thier service does not work. I live about 16 miles outside of Phoenix, AZ and with AT&T my service never worked at home. AT&T promised that they were going to put in a tower close to us that would allow us service but it was all lies. OK maybe not lies but it was taking to long. Tmobile works very well at my house can at times get a great connection and it appears thier Tech support that actually knows what they are doing. I am glad I have TMobile, service wise - Price wise it is comparable but still a little pricey for android phones with having to pay for the 30 dollar unlimited android web.

Nexus One...At&t or T-Mobile?

Hey guys i just had a few questions for the nexus one users out there..by the way i am finally giving in and deciding to buy a nexus one!! I waited and waited to see if there were going to be any better phones coming out, but for some reason the nexus one just calls my name, its a perfect phone.
Anyways my dad has current service with at&t (the $60 individual plan) and i am pretty sure he already completed his two year contract. I was thinking of adding a line to his account and purchase a nexus one to use with it. My question was if i were to buy the n1, would there need to be a requirement to establish a new contract?
Also in your personal opinions, is the n1 better on the at&t or t-mobile network?
Thanks i cant wait to get the phone!

jsnplus10 said:
if i were to buy the n1, would there need to be a requirement to establish a new contract?
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No. It's $529... then you just add the line to your service. The only time you would have to start a new contract with the phone is if you opt for the $179 deal through T-Mobile (AT&T doesn't have a deal like that).
Also in your personal opinions, is the n1 better on the at&t or t-mobile network?
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Depends on where you live and what you want.
T-Mobile is the only provider that allows you to have a smart phone on a non-contract plan without requiring you pay for a data package. So if you have steady access to WiFi, it really isn't worth paying extra for data, and using Google Voice for free unlimited texting means that T-Mobile is by far the cheapest non-contract option.
AT&T generally has better overall 3G/coverage nationwide (they certainly do where I live in Utah), but if you go non-contract with them, you still have to pay for data.
T-Mobile is rolling out HSPA+ all over the USA, and people are reporting 6-7mbps speeds. Check out androidforums.com/nexus-one
If I were you, and if data/3G was important, I'd check your local AT&T retailers and have them show you speed tests.

It seems in general ATT nexus users don't have signal issues like the t-mobile nexus users often have. But that's just a general observation. It all depends on your specific area.
Me personally, ATT will have stronger service cause ATT uses 850 and 1900 mhz, where t-mobile uses 1700/2100 mhz. So ATT's 850 is much stronger signal penetration and range. I think this is partially why t-mobile users get that flaky 3g issue. But also ATT 3g has a head start on coverage over t-mobile, so they will catch up eventually.

...and the nexus one would be subject to follow the new data usage rules for at&t right? I think its 250 mb for $15 and 2 gb for $25.
Hmm ok, i do want to go with the cheapest option here and it sounds like if i go ahead and try out t-mobile they will eventually upgrade to hspa+ network...
Does the upgraded network on t-mobile mean that current 3g phones (like the nexus one) would be able to use it?

current tmobile 3g phones (including N1) are already ready for the hspa+
i sell tmo and att (amongst other carriers) i also have both carriers. the high speeds you can get on the tmo hspa+ are nice, but inconsistent.
go AT&T. pay a little more, but have a far better network.

Get T-Mobile service if you can get 3G service where you are.

i would vote for at&t. one of my buddy's using t-mo, and as mentioned before inconsistent with their network

I am on AT&T and T-Mobile gave me a free phone with unlimited free service which I stopped using because the audio quality was horrible and people kept complaining how bad it sounded.
I vote AT&T.

if you travel, tmobile really doesnt work outside metro areas and highways. just food for thought. at&t works in more rural areas as well. I dont have any issues with my at&t nexus, dont know about the tmobile version. Mine is for sale if you are interested, I need the money towards importing a phone at retail. Pm me if you are interested.

Okay thanks for all the help!

[Q] HTC One on ATT or Tmobile?

I am currently on ATT with the Samsung Galaxy S III and I was thinking about switching to TMobile since they have unlimited data and also because ATT has the locked bootloader. The problem is, I am scared of switching to a new service provider. I tried asking around the office and I can't find ANYONE that has TMobile (At least not in the past year or two).
So my question is for people who currently have TMobile. How is the coverage? The speed? There isn't LTE here for TMobile but there is for ATT but I read that the 3.5g that TMobile has is pretty fast.
Any advice either way?
P.S. Please don't go out of your way bashing the other carriers, I am just asking to help me pick the best network for myself and my HTC One. If you have had both carriers, feel free to comment on both. But if you haven't had ATT, please don't bash it (and vice versa)
Once again, if you have had TMobile in the past year or so, please let me know what you think of it.
Thanks
Rob

AT&T HTC One running on T-Mobile 3G. My town finally got refarmed the phone constantly bounces around EDGE, H, and H+ = Battery Drain
But the speeds are pretty impressive, well compared to EDGE. I can literally walk around the house and have it switch between Data Speeds.
Coverage within the City is constant full bars, but now that they started refarming the area it's spotty 3G. For me though it's worth it. AT&T in my area has better coverage when it comes to the suburban areas, but the prices do not compare T-Mobile wins hands down.
Here are a couple Speed Test shots ..

robamacaf said:
I am currently on ATT with the Samsung Galaxy S III and I was thinking about switching to TMobile since they have unlimited data and also because ATT has the locked bootloader. The problem is, I am scared of switching to a new service provider. I tried asking around the office and I can't find ANYONE that has TMobile (At least not in the past year or two).
So my question is for people who currently have TMobile. How is the coverage? The speed? There isn't LTE here for TMobile but there is for ATT but I read that the 3.5g that TMobile has is pretty fast.
Any advice either way?
P.S. Please don't go out of your way bashing the other carriers, I am just asking to help me pick the best network for myself and my HTC One. If you have had both carriers, feel free to comment on both. But if you haven't had ATT, please don't bash it (and vice versa)
Once again, if you have had TMobile in the past year or so, please let me know what you think of it.
Thanks
Rob
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It all depends on where you live. If you have service nothing is better value than T-Mobile in my opinion.

Well in my opinion I have had t mobile, Verizon and at&t. It all comes down to service I get 20-50 mbps on art lte constantly, T-Mobile can be iffy from time to time if in a rural area and well the price if unlimited plus the price of paying for the phone each month comes close to att. The one thing over the years I have learned is loyalty can go a long way and when your needing that upgrade early it does pay off being with your provider for a while. I hope this helps out and this is just an opinion of mine.
Btw the bootloader is unlockable for att
Sent from my M7 using xda premium

Tmobile of you got good coverage in your area.

I am in the same boat, I've had Tmobile in the past and while the customer service is 10x better than AT&T I could never stick with them due to coverage being an issue. However, the area has recently been upgraded and coverage seems to be much better so I think I'm going to switch soon. Not to mention AT&T stopped offering military discount, while Tmo has the best military discount of any carrier.

Yeah, it really depends where you live. Minneapolis area has great coverage. I plan on switching back to them in June (currently on AT&T).
Don't be afraid of T-Mobile...
Sent from my HTC One X

So I ended up buying 2 HTC Ones from TMobile, they put a hold on my bank account for 300 dollars and then they cancelled the order. I called them to ask them what was up and they said they are cancelling all HTC One pre-orders that are placed because of an IT issue where the processing system doesn't think any HTC Ones are in stock.
But they are letting the system hit my credit to check if I can get the phone and they are charging my bank account even though they know the system will cancel the order at the end.
That along with the fact I'm not quite sure how good coverage/speed is in Toledo, OH has made my mind up. I'm staying with AT&T.
Thanks everyone for your input

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AT&T HTC One running on T-Mobile 3G. My town finally got refarmed the phone constantly bounces around EDGE, H, and H+ = Battery Drain
But the speeds are pretty impressive, well compared to EDGE. I can literally walk around the house and have it switch between Data Speeds.
Coverage within the City is constant full bars, but now that they started refarming the area it's spotty 3G. For me though it's worth it. AT&T in my area has better coverage when it comes to the suburban areas, but the prices do not compare T-Mobile wins hands down.
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Your just the guy I'm looking for. I'm currently on att with the HTC ONE, but thinking about going to tmobile's prepaid $30 plan. The coverage in Charlotte NC looks good, but I'm not exactly sure because I haven't used it. However, $30 is a great savings. While your out and about, your getting hspa +? But it switches constantly between hspa + and edge?