hey guys. got my SGS today, loving it. and been playing with it since 5 hours non stop now lol
anyways, coming from a nokia n900, im used to the browser showing sites in full web version, not mobile version.
is it possible somehow to make it appear like that in SGS browser too?
cheers
go to the browser url bar, and type about:debug and enter.
nothing will happen, but now you can go to the browser settings from the menu, and scroll all the way down. there will be new menu options there. find the one which allows you to choose between desktop/android/iphone display for websites.
this is a little bugged, because for me after i did this from a fresh rom installation, i can access espn soccernet perfectly. but if i revisit the page it will load up the mobile version.
to view desktop pages permanently try skyfire browser from the market.
awesome maaan! thanx a bunch!!! u think this will work in froyo 2.2 also?
p.s i tried youtube.com desktop version. upload loading the video, the browser crashes. and kicks me to home screen.
so i suppose some sites are not quiet ready to be run n desktop mode on SGS.
perhaps froyo wioth 10.1 flash will solve this
SonicSpinner said:
awesome maaan! thanx a bunch!!! u think this will work in froyo 2.2 also?
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Oddly enough with the stock browser and present 2.2 you cannot access the User Agent setting with About:debug.
Yea they removed it in 2.2, but why? I think it should be an option that is easy to access for everyone. This phone handles desktop sites almost as well as a PC, the big screen actually makes a lot of mobile sites look rubbish.
Sometimes we want mobile sites to save bandwidth, other times we want the full experience.
In Dolphin Browser HD you can get an addon called "Desktop Toggles" which adds a switch on the right toolbar for easy switching between desktop/mobile modes. With some performance and other small improvements it would be a perfect replacement for the stock browser.
One other annoyance with the stock browser is that even with it set to desktop you are still often sent to the "Touch" version of the site and then have to scroll to the bottom and click on full site link. Shame there is not a command line or script to set it to desktop proper.
With the screen real estate on the Galaxy S we should be given the option to view full desktop versions of websites. Often the mobile sites just don't cut it. We want the full version of websites on our phones.
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Is there a way to make it so the browser default browser shows the desktop version of the website by default? I hate going to web pages pages and it's the mobile version.
You could use the about:debug method, but I don't think that's permanent. I just use Dolphin HD browser and set it to desktop since I like it better than the stock browser anyways.
If your default homepage is Google, the setting is at the bottom of the page.
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If your default homepage is Google, the setting is at the bottom of the page.
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I'm pretty sure that is only for Google.com and not for any other pages.
this is my old gripe about the default web browser is the constatn mobile website crap, personally i think all mobile websites should be disbanded, no one even uses them.
Yeah, I'm using the about:debug method. I wish I would be permanent.
I completely agree with disbanding all of the mobile websites. They are just annoying and it's not always easy to find the link to switch to the desktop page.
someone needs to find a way to make the default browser (i like the default browser) able to permanently go full site, without rooting.
I know that this not exactly what you want, but Dolphin Browser HD has that option, to always go to the desktop version of a website.
That does not help for the default browser, of course, but maybe something to consider, if you didn't know about that option?
Cheers
Ok I have Froyo 2.2 running on my Captivate but I cannot force the browser to browse pages in desktop mode instead of wap/mobile mode.
I tried about:debug from the browser to change the advanced settings but the UAString value is not displayed in the list at all, the last time is Set JS flags.
Does anyone really know how to set this on 2.2 with the captivate?
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you need to mess with the framework-res.apk file.
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you need to mess with the framework-res.apk file.
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Thanks for the response I was looking for something a little more informative, are you telling me I need to edit files in a package, etc? Just to enable this?
Probably the easier solution would be just to use the Dolphin HD browser and set the user agent to desktop if all you want is to avoid the re-direct to the mobile sites.
I've done that, and Skyfire as well, but I am not sure how flash 10.1 works with the other browsers or if it works with all of them. I know Skyfire intercepts and tries to play them with its only build.
I am also curious why the UAString value is omitted from the debug settings on the default browser to begin with.
I also found that I had to actually manually install 10.1 it was not installed after updating to 2.2
I am also a little disappointed with the sept.11 build of 2.2 I installed, it does not feel faster than the stock 2.1 as a matter of fact web browsing is worse, and so is screen transitioning on the desktop compared to 2.1. Not sure why.
-i have the same problem, i try to load a site and i get the mobile version , and i try the skyfire, dolphin browser hd and nothing ...
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I've done that, and Skyfire as well, but I am not sure how flash 10.1 works with the other browsers or if it works with all of them. I know Skyfire intercepts and tries to play them with its only build.
I am also curious why the UAString value is omitted from the debug settings on the default browser to begin with.
I also found that I had to actually manually install 10.1 it was not installed after updating to 2.2
I am also a little disappointed with the sept.11 build of 2.2 I installed, it does not feel faster than the stock 2.1 as a matter of fact web browsing is worse, and so is screen transitioning on the desktop compared to 2.1. Not sure why.
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I used Dolphin HD to watch a full episode of the Daily Show from the website, so I know for a fact flash works with it, and keeps it from re-directing to the mobile site. Must be some kind of EUE.
Open the browser then on the address type:
about:debug
Then go to settings, scroll all the way down and enable normal rendering.
That's it.
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Open the browser then on the address type:
about:debug
Then go to settings, scroll all the way down and enable normal rendering.
That's it.
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-don't work!!!
I know Hulu is blocking **** so thats expected but its still detecting Dolphin and Skyfire with the correct Strings set.
I know Flash is working but since 2.1 had some sort of flash support previously its hard if the new one is working if it does not show "HD" options.
Since setting UAString cannot be done via debug menu for the default browser, in 2.2 on the build on my captivate I will just wait it out and see if someone figures it out I guess.
Its odd that even with skyfire set to desktop, that Hulu can detect the version still.
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It works for me
not for all sites.
This may be because the website uses other aspects besides just UAString. For instance, even though both a PC and a phone have flash 10.1 I am positive there is still a way for a website to indicate which is a mobile version. Also it can use screen res, IP address (unlikely), and other factors. Most likely it is flash player having its own useragent.
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Open the browser then on the address type:
about:debug
Then go to settings, scroll all the way down and enable normal rendering.
That's it.
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Just to make this clear, which browser are you talking about and can you post a screen shot.
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Just to make this clear, which browser are you talking about and can you post a screen shot.
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-defaut browser. =settings
In regards to the framework-res.apk...
There is an xml file in there that has the user agent string that our phones are using. I don't remember exactly where it is. perhaps framework-res.apk/scripts/???/
Like I said I'm not sure where it is. It is a lot easier to mess with it on stock than it is on Cognition, Sheps, etc.
Hulu will ONLY work if we are able to change that setting. Skyfire, Opera, etc wont because it still has the string settings.
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I've done that, and Skyfire as well, but I am not sure how flash 10.1 works with the other browsers or if it works with all of them. I know Skyfire intercepts and tries to play them with its only build.
I am also curious why the UAString value is omitted from the debug settings on the default browser to begin with.
I also found that I had to actually manually install 10.1 it was not installed after updating to 2.2
I am also a little disappointed with the sept.11 build of 2.2 I installed, it does not feel faster than the stock 2.1 as a matter of fact web browsing is worse, and so is screen transitioning on the desktop compared to 2.1. Not sure why.
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ok, there are several things I need to point out about this post
a) flash 10.1 will work with non-stock browsers like Dolphin HD, Skyfire uses it's own method to circumvent flash and I don't believe there's a way around it
b) UAString is omitted probably because there is no real need to change that for most users, and the above method for "enable normal rendering" does prevent redirects to mobile, but it doesn't change the UAString (in mobile, it's more importat to have an option to switch to desktop mode than change the UAString)
c) flash 10.1 was installed across every other person's device running 2.2, likely you had an update in the market, but everyone else who installed 2.2 had it. Also, android 2.2 != flash 10.1. Android 2.2 is the version of the OS capable of running 10.1, but there are requirements and licensing issues, so it doesn't necessarily come preloaded on every 2.2 device
d) where are you getting this "september 11th" build date from? I assume you're looking at kernel version [email protected] #1? that means a user named "jetaek.lee" made a build on a COMPUTER NAMED "sep-11". if you knew how to check build.prop, you would see this build was made on 9/21 and that the "sep-11" name showed up on the 2.1 kernel built in June. And considering it was only leaked at the start of october, it was only a week or two old at the time. I'm sick of people complaining about literally the dumbest thing imaginable.
e) the "laggy browser" issue has already been acknowledged and there is a SIMPLE fix available in the forums, search for it.
FWIW, Skyfire uses both the regular flash 10.1 as well as its own streaming implementation. So, you can use the standard flash for most websites but if there is a flash video that is slow you use the skyfire converted stream.
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Probably the easier solution would be just to use the Dolphin HD browser and set the user agent to desktop if all you want is to avoid the re-direct to the mobile sites.
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- Yes, I concur
@Kaik541
Well I have only had this phone for 3 days so I cannot say I am an expert on it but I can form a reasonable opinion on the differences in performance in a pre-released leaked version of 2.2 and the stock 2.1 and I am not entirely sure that is complaining about the stupidest thing.
Everything else however you posted I kinda knew but was not sure of hence the post. =)
I agree will prob just stick will Skyfire or Dolphin (although Dolphin worked on fewer sites for me than Skyfire did.)
Will have to see if the release version of 2.2 is optimized.
A browser designed specifically for larger touch screens could indeed make a difference. Currently, browsers with touch interfaces work pretty much the same on mobile phones as they do on tablets.
http://www.techspot.com/news/41807-opera-previews-browser-for-tablets.html
Can any one post akp file?
The Opera browser for tablets hasn't been released yet. It's only been talked about, and shown in a very short youtube video.
It's suppose to be out soon:
http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2011/01/03/
There was a beta awhile ago, but it didn't support Flash integration.
Firefox also has a beta, but, at least when I tried it, it didn't support Flash yet.
Jim
I like better and cooler just as much as the next guy, but what can you really do different?
The same improvements for panning and zooming should be valuable for phones,so why not just improve those functions for the base app?
I know it's an old thread and you probably may not view this, but I just installed Opera Mobile 11 from opera's website. Nice clean and simple. Also has Flash support.
I was even able to use the quick search feature of this forum via a browser for the first time!!! (without having to go into advanced search).
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I know it's an old thread and you probably may not view this, but I just installed Opera Mobile 11 from opera's website. Nice clean and simple. Also has Flash support.
I was even able to use the quick search feature of this forum via a browser for the first time!!! (without having to go into advanced search).
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Awesome man. All I heard was flash support
Thought I'd throw this link up http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009443 for anyone interest in this browser. It shows you how to set the useragent up to open pages in desktop view instead of the default mobile view
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No one posted this yet?
It's available on the Android Market for ICS devices
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.android.chrome
APK also available here:
http://min.us/mv2d7nyM6#5o
edit: I screwed up the upload - it only uploaded around 1MB instead of 16MB - fixed now
What do you think of it, performance-wise?
Love it! :-D
Edit: 'till now ;-)
It was posted in the Themes and Apps sectino - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485686
Running great!!
I compared several pages and it the stock browser still feels like it scrolls smoother and loads considerably faster.
This IS a beta though so improvements in this regard are inevitable.
The fact that there is no Flash support hurts it just a bit too. Once Flash is completely eradicated from the web(I can't wait for that to happen, such a completely inefficient, performance hogging format) it'll be a non-issue though.
going to try this out now. thanks for heads up
Does is work well in Desktop mode? Do websites recognize the mode correctly or does it auto load the mobile page?
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Does is work well in Desktop mode? Do websites recognize the mode correctly or does it auto load the mobile page?
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Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to change user-agent to desktop.
chrome://flags/ doesn't work. Some of the other chrome:// commands do, none of them have the option to change user-agent.
Does not load or have option to load pages in desktop mode. What is the point in a browser for tablets that loads pages as if they where on a phone.
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Does not load or have option to load pages in desktop mode. What is the point in a browser for tablets that loads pages as if they where on a phone.
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In fairness, most web developers are taking a shortcut and assuming anything with "android" in the user-agent string is mobile instead of asking the browser for screen dimensions. This is bad but common practice.
The way which was finally added in the ICS browser to work around this is to change the user-agent string platform info to X11 instead of Android.
When you "request desktop site" this is what happens.
Site thinks is mobile: (Linux; U; Android 4.0.3; en-us; Build/ITL41F)
Site thinks is desktop: (X11; Linux x86_64)
This is an inelegant hack. (Though I am surprised it's missing from Chrome for Android)
Ideally, web developers will clue into the existence of tablets and properly handle things.
I find the stock ICS browser to be smoother and more fluid for me....
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Ideally, web developers will clue into the existence of tablets and properly handle things.
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When people still design sites/apps for IE6 I wouldn't hold my breath.
Agreed with others here. Stock feels faster and smoother.
IMO its a terrible beta. No user string, no flash, bookmarks are terrible, colour theme doesn't fit with ICS..
Also, why does it exist? If it's only for ICS and above, why didn't they replace stock browser with it? I thought stock android browser was web kit and chrome based anyway.
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Agreed with others here. Stock feels faster and smoother.
IMO its a terrible beta. No user string, no flash, bookmarks are terrible, colour theme doesn't fit with ICS..
Also, why does it exist? If it's only for ICS and above, why didn't they replace stock browser with it? I thought stock android browser was web kit and chrome based anyway.
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Funnily enough, Chrome relys on the stock browser for half its settings
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I installed it. Went to a few sites. Said cool. And now I'm back to using the stock browser.
I like it because my chrome bookmarks now sync, the feature never worked in Honeycomb or with the new ICS browser and I had to use the chromemarks app as a work around.
Its quite fast to use but it still needs a lot of work, flash, themes and extensions would be nice lolz
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I think its not bad for a beta been using it on my phone for a few days now... Remember beta here.. We cant expect everything from your desktop onto your mobile device right now as with google they are going to add features as time comes... Personally i would like to see extentions work but most people would be like that
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When i first downloaded chrome i used it a little then went back to ics + because i thought chrome was akward and hard to close tabs. I missed quick controls right off the bat because they are pretty ingenious and intuitive. Well since then i have only used chrome. I only use ics+ when i need to view flash. Chrome is fast, although it takes some effort to close tabs and open new ones. I can't wait for an update and all the things that are obvious (extensions, flash, quick controls). I love how android is growing up. I feel like a proud father watching it go from a small phone ui to now on the brink of blossoming out to all areas of life. By that i mean throughout our homes i.e. Google home integration. I don't think Google has any plans to support flash though with this browser. The HTML YouTube in this browser is fast an non buggy. I'm sure Google wants to keep their browser flash free so they can monopolize web m.
I think I have to agree with you, I've gone back to the ICS browser because it's better designed for touch screen devices. Chrome beta is quite fiddly to use with your fingers! lolz
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Hi!
Im looking for a new browser for my P9. Been trying a few but it seems like all of them are missing important requirements that i want.
The browser should contain:
-AdBlock (that actually works)
-When closing the browser and start it again, it should start from default page and not the last visited.
-Incognito always on. Not necessary if theres a option to clear history when closing the app.
-Battery friendly
Dolphin is probably the choice, but i just cant seem to like it on Android. On iPhone it was pretty good.
Is there a option out there?
On PC and Android only Opera(Opera not Opera mini).
Opera is like chrome but dont suck so much resources and it have few handy features like: Compression mode, Build in AdBock AND VPN mode.
But best part is Battery life, compared to Chrome, no matter if its PC or Android you can get even 30-40% more time on it.
Also it have sync mode so you can browse sites on PC and finish it on Phone.
Sadly recent update literally F up look of Opera, but if you didnt use it before, you should not notice that, but I would suggest to switch to tablet view in settings, its WAY more comfortable to use it(even better if you change DPI in programming settings of phone to 320-380)
I would suggest giving it a try for week or two, with both on PC and Phone and after that you will notice how bad Chrome was in terms of performance and battery life.
Thanks for your reply.
I remember i used Opera on a old Android and was happy with it. Must say, i kinda like the new look of it. But is it not possible to remove the news feed? Also, the ad block doesnt work very well. And when closing Opera and starting it again it takes me to the last viewed page. Also, no incognito mode.
I am using Brave Browser, fastest than any others and as simple than chrome. AdBlock included.
No lag on the scrolling and it used the last chromium engine.
You can disable the startup page.
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I am using Brave Browser, fastest than any others and as simple than chrome. AdBlock included.
No lag on the scrolling and it used the last chromium engine.
You can disable the startup page.
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No incognito or option to delete history upon exit. Last visited page opens when restarting the browser. No good im afraid
Yes there is an incognito mode. But if you want to hide everything, inbrowser is maybe a good option.
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Yes there is an incognito mode. But if you want to hide everything, inbrowser is maybe a good option.
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It has, but i need to chose incognito every time i use the app. And in incognito i cant have my bookmarks. I tried inbrowser, but i didnt like it at all.
And i know.. im very stubborn :laugh:
Hehe, I which you to find your happiness
APUS browser, end of story
carlese said:
APUS browser, end of story
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I like it! Thanks alot
Not possible to change themes on it am i right?
vikingalle said:
I like it! Thanks alot
Not possible to change themes on it am i right?
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Well it has night mode, it's super fast so no need to make it heavy with themes and other stuff.. Adblock built in, I think it's quite perfect
Opera HAVE incognito mode, and it show last visited site.
Incognito mode( its called "private" mode). It can be enabled by just clicking windows icon in phone mode, or in tablet mode: options icon in right corner->create new private tab.
As far as keeping last visited site. Hard to tell why you dont get it, because its one of features that I HATE personally, and its annoy me because opera always open last visited site AND all tabs in background.
Also feed main site can be changed to normal mode just by going to options and changing option: "set feed site as homepage" to disabled.
I'm using Dolphin browser on Android (P9) and I'm satisfied. It has all I need.
Have you looked at Nova browser. It seems quite popular with some P9 users.