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Folks: I have HERO and downloaded official 2.1 update earlier this summer. I was really hoping that issues like dialer lag and general "under-performance" feel on HERO would improve but I am still disappointed. I have still lot of time before I get eligible for a phone upgrade. I have no experience with rooting or custom ROMs. Would a HTC sense-less ROM help my case? I love the form-factor of this phone but lag just kills the experience.
I would really appreciate if someone can point me to step-by-step procedure on how to get a ROM on HERO that works lag-free.
thanks
keep it stock if you like. thats how i did it at first. i rooted the stock stuff and deleted tons of sprint bloatware and the other useless apps; peep, teeter, gmail, socialnetworkprovider.apk...tons of stuff. after doing ONLY that, my device was faster and more responsive. ive never used a 'killer' of any sorts. linux is smart and you dont need 'killers'. of course, others may argue differently.
so head over to the dev forum and learn how to root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674833
edit: read, read, read. thats what i was told to do and i did. a lot of prep was required before rooting but if you follow the directions, it will go very smoothly
In my opinion, the two fastest ROMs here are
Darchdroid 2.8 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
and Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722122
But know that these two ROMs are based off Android only, and don't have the HTC Sense user-interface (in other words, they will look different than stock and have some different apps and features).
But first you will need to root your phone following these steps here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
After you root your phone, NANDROID BACKUP! Then you can try deleting apps like the post above mentions. See this post here about deleting apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581976
If just doing that isn't good enough for you, try one of the two ROMs I posted above. I think you'll find that rooting your phone is a very wise and eye-opening decision
Lol chromiumleaf you didn't recommend the ROM in your sig
OP if you are willing to root and still want Sense UI, nfinitefx45's stock ROM is for you. If you follow the instructions you will basically run an over clocked (if you choose, but recommended), streamlined version of stock ROM + apps2sd (your choice, but recommended)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267
thank you all for quick replies and helpful pointers to the resources. Looks like rooting + deleting apps is the first step. I will try that. Btw hadnt relaized that custom ROMs is a world on its own
It sure it as I have also been reading, and one more thing incase you did not know and I don't believe it was mentioned in this thread you need to not be on the 2.1 .6 firmware, you need to downgrade to the .5 firmware to be able to root, I know it is in the instructions pasted by other but was just giving you a reminder incase you still have not done anything. Now if you did finally Root I would like to know how it went, as I am also almost ready to Root, tired of mine going into sleep mode and not responding, anyways it has been a while since you were suppose to have rooted, just curious how it went and how was your experience, and if you did finally go to a custom Rom which one did you go with??
don_walio said:
thank you all for quick replies and helpful pointers to the resources. Looks like rooting + deleting apps is the first step. I will try that. Btw hadnt relaized that custom ROMs is a world on its own
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don_walio said:
Folks: I have HERO and downloaded official 2.1 update earlier this summer. I was really hoping that issues like dialer lag and general "under-performance" feel on HERO would improve but I am still disappointed. I have still lot of time before I get eligible for a phone upgrade. I have no experience with rooting or custom ROMs. Would a HTC sense-less ROM help my case? I love the form-factor of this phone but lag just kills the experience.
I would really appreciate if someone can point me to step-by-step procedure on how to get a ROM on HERO that works lag-free.
thanks
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if you want to stay close to stock but be rooted id say use the stock rooted .6 rom with apps2sd. you could also use an oc kernel but i never found it did much for my phone. always use advance task killer and use a memory manager like autokiller and set it to aggressive or ultimate. my hero runs pretty good now. if your daring you could try the new froyo rom too.
Hi folks,
This is a noob question. I am unable to find any post related to stock Froyo for Galaxy S. Is something like this out yet ?
By stock I mean, Android as Google release it, without any reseller trash on it.
Thanks in advance
there is no froyo for SGS yet, at least not officially
much less a stock froyo
there are tons of phone killing Beta froyos if you feel brave
Thanks for letting me know. I am not confident yet in any beta out there, although a lot of phones are using it without any issue...
Hoping that stock will be released soon.
Thanks
It won't (be released soon).
Currently there are community efforts going on to try and get stock 2.1 run on the SGS but they still have a way to go.
After that, once samsung releases the sources for 2.2 they can start trying to get a stock 2.2 running. They have to wait for Samsung because of drivers and such.
Hoping that what they've learned from 2.1 can largely be reused there's a good chance a stock/AOSP 2.2 ROM could make it's way relatively fast to the SGS but for now, don't hold your breath.
Ladduro said:
Hi folks,
This is a noob question. I am unable to find any post related to stock Froyo for Galaxy S. Is something like this out yet ?
By stock I mean, Android as Google release it, without any reseller trash on it.
Thanks in advance
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I really don't think it can ever be called stock. All releases have to be configured and customised to the platform they are running on. With Linux or Windows it is all on the disk and web server, drivers etc etc. You cannot do this with phone firmware as the download would be huge.
And just like Windows or Linux there are some stock programs that each will install. So what can we call "stock"? Even the Nexux 2.2 has to be configured to it.
By stock/vanilla Android, I meant of course a modified one that includes drivers for SGS, but does not include any customer UI made by Samsung.
So stock UI, no additional garbage (iPhone garbage style in SGS case) would be what I really need to see on my phone.
Or maybe a faster way for this is to modify current Samsung ROM and remove TW and Samsung's apps.
Thanks
Ladduro said:
By stock/vanilla Android, I meant of course a modified one that includes drivers for SGS, but does not include any customer UI made by Samsung.
So stock UI, no additional garbage (iPhone garbage style in SGS case) would be what I really need to see on my phone.
Or maybe a faster way for this is to modify current Samsung ROM and remove TW and Samsung's apps.
Thanks
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Have a look in the Dev threads. There are several Roms that do that.
Hi Tehpriest,
Can you route me to a ROM mentioned by you ? I searched but in vane... no result.
Thanks
+1. Have been seeking a stock UI-based ROM for i9000T for a while now, with no luck.
Cheers!
There seems to now be some skilled developers starting to get Cyanogen 6 (a vanilla version of Froyo) onto the Galaxy S. Assuming they get it running - which I think is likely when Samsung release the source for their spin on Froyo - it will take a while before it's stable and fully featured.
There's a steep learning curve for working out how to backup then flash your phone with a new rom. It took me three days to go through forum posts working it out, and I've now got a beta version of Froyo working fine. My advice is to get Samsung's official upgrade Froyo when it's out and wait until the devs get a chance to get something better running.
Also, use 'Launcher pro' from the market to replace Samsung's launcher, which makes things a whole lot more familiar.
official froyo is out, the wait should be shorter now
I am hoping too for this. I really like to benefit of OOB Android experience as Galaxy S is my first android phone.
Looking forward to see if it... hopefully soon.
wasnt CyanogenMod working on a release for the galaxy s?
Hello! First off thank you for taking sometime to help me out with a few questions about rooting my new Samsung Galaxy S. I've been itching to root it ever since I watched some lag fix videos in aw as to how much better the phone seems to perform,before I do go through with it I have a few questions hoping to be answered. Also last thing my device is up to date with Froyo 2.2.
First off I will be using this : (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682) to root my device, will this work fine?
Second questions is if I root my device and a gingerbread comes out as an official update can I go about updating it normally through Kies?Same goes for google updates like the new market update. (I am not interested in changing the ROM at the moment)
-Will Kies still recognize the device normally as I use it for importing music and such.
Lastly which lagfix should I use? Voodoo?It seems that Voodoo is meant to work with the GT-I9000 or does it work with the captivate too? Or do I use the oneclicklagfix on the Market?
Thank you so much for taking the time to help me and if there's any thing about the phone you need to know please do ask and Ill gladly provide you with extra information.
Thanks again!
Ibby
Yes, their is also a galaxy one click root or use AIO toolbox.
It will be best to remove root be fore updating to 2.3, market update will work as normal. For kies it should work as normal, i don't know though i just mount my device.
Voodoo is better and safer but it only comes on custom kernels. Since you don't care for flashing roms. The only way you can get it is (if its still around) a stock kernel with voodoo lagfix. *Voodoo works on most all the galaxy s family including the captivate.
One click lag fix not as safe, plus the developer has stopped developing and supporting it.
Why post the same question twice? under 2 different profiles? its kind of a waste
Ibby_CAN said:
Hello! First off thank you for taking sometime to help me out with a few questions about rooting my new Samsung Galaxy S. I've been itching to root it ever since I watched some lag fix videos in aw as to how much better the phone seems to perform,before I do go through with it I have a few questions hoping to be answered. Also last thing my device is up to date with Froyo 2.2.
First off I will be using this : (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682) to root my device, will this work fine?
Second questions is if I root my device and a gingerbread comes out as an official update can I go about updating it normally through Kies?Same goes for google updates like the new market update. (I am not interested in changing the ROM at the moment)
-Will Kies still recognize the device normally as I use it for importing music and such.
Lastly which lagfix should I use? Voodoo?It seems that Voodoo is meant to work with the GT-I9000 or does it work with the captivate too? Or do I use the oneclicklagfix on the Market?
Thank you so much for taking the time to help me and if there's any thing about the phone you need to know please do ask and Ill gladly provide you with extra information.
Thanks again!
Ibby
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Super one click is what I used to root my Rogers Captivate running 2.2. The other methods the second poster said will most likely work as well.
I am assuming the Kies update to 2.3 will not work with root enabled. The new market can be updated very easily, just find the apk somewhere on the forums and install it directly, it worked fine for me.
I am not really a fan of OCLF, it works for the first little while but seems to slow down after a while (or maybe it's all in my head?). There is a voodoo injected stock rogers kernel somewhere on the forum, I dunno where but I found it and then used Neldar's SGS Kernel flasher (available on the market) to backup my original kernel and flash the voodoo injected one. It worked great and I now have voodoo lag fix. I am looking at changing to speedmod at some point in the future.
speedy_11 said:
Why post the same question twice? under 2 different profiles? its kind of a waste
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I am also wondering this, it's kinda pointless...
Thank you to both replies,I posted the other question with an old account by accident and have no idea how to remove it!
Thanks again!
So, I see that there is a 2.1 update for the HTC Hero CDMA from Sprint and I'm very interested in upgrading to be able to use some of the better software out there that doesn't work on 1.5.
The thing is, I finally managed to fix this phone from a bad rooting procedure (it's a used phone, the previous owner rooted it using who-knows-what method and ROM, which caused the wifi to stop working) after spending weeks on the problem and finally have a good, fully-functional phone. So, now, I'm a bit paranoid about any rooting or upgrade procedure, though I suspect and official update from a Sprint shouldn't cause a problem.
I'm also considering doing a basic rooting (no custom ROM) so I can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery and make a complete backup, but, again, I'm very leery about it.
Is there any possibility that rooting, in and of itself, could cause the wifi to stop working or was it that the specific ROM that was installed didn't have the right wifi driver?
epp_b said:
So, I see that there is a 2.1 update for the HTC Hero CDMA from Sprint and I'm very interested in upgrading to be able to use some of the better software out there that doesn't work on 1.5.
The thing is, I finally managed to fix this phone from a bad rooting procedure (it's a used phone, the previous owner rooted it using who-knows-what method and ROM, which caused the wifi to stop working) after spending weeks on the problem and finally have a good, fully-functional phone. So, now, I'm a bit paranoid about any rooting or upgrade procedure, though I suspect and official update from a Sprint shouldn't cause a problem.
I'm also considering doing a basic rooting (no custom ROM) so I can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery and make a complete backup, but, again, I'm very leery about it.
Is there any possibility that rooting, in and of itself, could cause the wifi to stop working or was it that the specific ROM that was installed didn't have the right wifi driver?
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Dude there are literally thousands of people running custom roms flawlessly ....taking that in to consideration, what do you think the answer to your question is? Lol for liability purposes we all have to say "there's a risk" but my 11 year old sister rooted her evo and flashed cm7 without any help
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
Fair enough, the custom ROM that was used must have been a crappy one.
epp_b said:
Fair enough, the custom ROM that was used must have been a crappy one.
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Well we've had some that had broken wifi long ago but really you probably just could've flashed a new working kernel over it and the problem would be gone. If you wanna stay stock-ish I'd recommend fresh 2.1 but if you wanna really see it fly flash kush-deck gb. Flash the. 29 kernel after you boot and you will never regret it
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
Thanks, I'll check those out sometime. Have you got links for them?
Believe me, you don't want the stock Sprint 2.1 on your Hero. It's terrible. Super slow and it freezes constantly. I ran it for a short time after Sprint released it and that's when I decided to root. If I remember correctly you also can't put your apps on the SD card with it which really limits how many apps you can install.
I am running CyanogenMod 6.0 Froyo with ADW Launcher (built into the Rom) and its snappy and reliable but still has a lot of the bells and whistles. Try Beautiful Widgets and you can have a homescreen clock with animated weather just like the HTC Sense homescreen.
I tried CM 6.1.1 recently (updated froyo with new features) but it used more internal memory than 6.0 which made my phone laggy.
Be sure to get the appropriate Google apps zip file with the new Market
Sent from my HTC Hero running CM6 RC1 with the XDA app
what's 2.1?
Android Eclair. 2.2 is Froyo
Sent from my HTC Hero running CM6 RC1 with the XDA app
I managed to find some of the software I was looking for and I'm actually pretty happy to run 1.5; I actually find it quite usable.
Right, ive had a i9000 for 5 months or so, and ever since i got it, ive found it to be slow, at times laggy. And hate alot of the crap samsung put on it.Which ive not even used.
I reckon its about time i start to make the most of my phone, but dont really know where to start, with these custom roms and rooting and what not.
I basically want it to run smoothly and possibly add a tweaks/features to it which could possibly improve it. However i remember reading somewhere, that ill lose the camera features if i install a custom rom. :l (i could be talking from my arse here)
Also i read that android 4.0 is coming or has come out. Would i be able to upgrade my phone to it ? and should i ?? If not what is the best rom to flash which will make my phone faster and smoother.
Is there anything at all to make it significantly faster, or is it limited by hardware :/
Im currently on:
kernal version 2.6.29
firmware 2.1 -update1
Which i havnt messed with since i got the phone.
Thanks, and sorry for the daft questions.
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
innovat0r said:
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
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Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
skweezer said:
Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
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OK, here we go...
1. First of all you need to root your device to install a custom rom or kernel. So first root your device with the above thread (cf-root).
2. Choose any rom from so many roms available all over xda. Choose only from the topic which is under your device's category, not from other device's rom,lol.
To do this you need Odin(use search)
3. Once done you will have custom rom and also custom kernel if you wish.
After these you can go for lagfix, like changing from rfs to ext4.
Best of luck.
Thanks, so after ive rooted with cf-root. do i have to install a custom rom and custom kernel, both ?
And which is considered the best rom and kernel ?
thanks
regards
Hey Skweezer,
Recommend you start with these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
and:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
They will tell you about how to connect your phone to your PC (Samsung USB drivers + adb), 3 button mode (how to avoid bricking your phone), backing up important/unrecoverable data (like your EFS block!), and what (in general) needs to be done to flash custom firmware.
After that, you should be able to pretty much recover from any error (like unplugging your phone mid flash). Now you can go ahead and root your phone and start exploring the wonderful word of custom roms! As for which one is the best, that's like asking "how long is a piece of string?" Some people prefer speed and cutting edge, others value battery life and stability, some aim for the middle of the road.
Personally I've tried tegrak kernel and was really impressed with the speed improvement! However, the limited app space finally turned me back to other kernels. I found the rest to be pretty much six in one, half dozen in the other (ie all about the same)... so pick one you like and just go for it... use it for a while and if it's not to your liking, flash again
Just a quick rundown on android for you... firmware 2.1 = Eclair, 2.2 = Frozen Yoghurt, 2.3 = Gingerbread, 3.0 = Honeycomb (tablet only version of android) and 4.0 = Ice Cream Sandwich (unify android for phone/tablet/tv again). There is a HUGE performance increase from going stock 2.1 to 2.3! so even if you just upgrade to Samsung's Gingerbread release (2.3.3 I believe?) you will notice better performance. Doing lagfix, kernel tweaks, etc is just icing on top of the cake. However, you'll find once you start tweaking, you won't go back to stock
Well, easiest way of starting is installing KIES and letting it update your phone. That's the official way and you won't have to bother with details like kernels, roms, bootloaders, etc and won't void your warranty (if that's the case).
You'll probably be left with with some 2.3.x version. Might as well make a backup from your stuff before upgrading, kies sucks in a general way, but may help you with that.
From that point on, if you still want to press further into customization goodness, there are PLENTY to chose from.
There are mainly 2 kinds of roms:
- Samsung based (someone picks up a sock samsung rom and modifies it with scripts, kernels, themes, apps, etc). These are most of the ones you'll find in the development section of this forum.
- not samsung based (like Cyanogen e MIUI). These are built from Google's sources directly and totally skip samsung. Therefore, samsung apps most likely won't work here. Everything else does.
Personally i'd recommend Cyanogen 7.1 stable as your next rom. It's an extremely optimized and wildly popular rom, with plenty of options that you won't find in any stock rom. They have their own forum i recommend you to look up if you're going their way.
Whatever you do, GET AWAY FROM THAT 2.1
Cheers for alll the replies guys. Im first going to just update via kies. To an official 2.3
If im not happy with that then ill try a custom rom and rooting.
If only it was as simple as jailbreaking and iphone. lool
Right, ust updated to latest version via kies. And instantly alot better, smoother. Has some of those things bulit into the system which i always though were missing.
Ill try it for a week, and see if theres anything i need, or think is missing. Then i might go custom. But right now im happy with it on the latest official version.
Thank you guys, i think you've made me sort of like android a bit more.