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New Diamond user seeking some advice

Ok I've been searching the forums for a while now to find answers to my questions and I've answered a few of them but I think I need a little more advice.
I'm using the HTC Touch Diamond and the Model NO shows DIAM500 on the back I've got MP6950, ROM version is 1.22.557.1, Radio Version 1.03.06F. I'm a CDMA user (Pretty sure anyway) and my carrier is Cellular South.
I love my Diamond it's just my carrier that seems to be a problem. I live out in the boonies so my reception is virtually non-existant at home. Not a major problem but an annoying one. It's not just with the Diamond it's with every cell phone I've ever had. Also the battery life could be better I think, I get about 4 hours with pretty moderate use while I have signal (at work). Haven't really done any tweaking YET but I've started messing around today.
Now this brings me to the reason I'm posting. I was looking into updating my ROM but was not able to download the latest from the HTC site (I figured out why). So as far as ROM's go I'm a little confused with all the custom ROMS posted here, I don't really know which would be best for me and if they will work at all and not screw up my phone. Can anyone offer some advice on what ROM is should use?
And I also want to play around with different Radios because I'm under the impression that it could help my reception issue, and then again it probably won't since I've always had this issue. So has anyone had luck with a certain radio helping poor reception? Is there one that would be better for me than the others?
I'm sure these are fairly regular and annoying questions but I just want to make sure I don't throw away the purchase I just made by updating the ROM and radio.

Most of XDA Forum is not for CDMA.

You can always find custom ROMs. Each ROM is different from the others (included applications and options which affect memory usage and performance). So there really isnt a "best ROM." You can check out the thread for CDMA ROMs and make sure you know how to install new ROMs and that you have the needed applications (HardSPL for GSM I dont know if its the same for CDMA). If you have what it takes you can try several ROMs and radios to find the most suitable one for you. Normally this shouldnt harm your phone unless you dont read well before attempting.
Hope this helps.

Android?

I admit that I am a complete rookie when it comes to any serious modifications oh phones, but I have recently been diving in as deep as I can with the help of this great forum. I am curious if anyone thinks it will even be possible/easy to get the latest version of Android running on the Imagio (US Verizon) at some point.
Thanks

Why not just buy the HTC Droid Eris?

rjygraham said:
Why not just buy the HTC Droid Eris?
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Because I just bought the Imagio.

I'm sure once this beast is unlocked it will be ported over.

kaseapfe said:
I admit that I am a complete rookie when it comes to any serious modifications oh phones, but I have recently been diving in as deep as I can with the help of this great forum. I am curious if anyone thinks it will even be possible/easy to get the latest version of Android running on the Imagio (US Verizon) at some point.
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Yeah, just hang in there. Duno why it's taking so long to get the unlock, but whatever........ It'll be soon and then it's bye-bye Verizon!!

I am definitely interested in this, but I also feel that the resistive touch screen will limit the touch functionality,

while its resistive touch, its extremely responsive. its very intuitive, it reacts when you want it to and never reacts to an accidental touch. i wouldnt let that hinder you.
i know they got android running on the omnia so i see no reason why it wont be running on the imagio. i started a thread here to try to collect some spl unlock information for newbies like myself, maybe we can figure it out sooner rather than later.

I would love this. I had one for my tytnII on AT&T. It would be even better now especially if we could get 2.1 running.

someone should cruz over to the blackstone forum and try the android build. It isnt a flash, you boot it from within windows.The imagio and the blackstone are virtually the same device.

Not really.

mallman said:
someone should cruz over to the blackstone forum and try the android build. It isnt a flash, you boot it from within windows.The imagio and the blackstone are virtually the same device.
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Actually you guys should Try the Topaz build. The Imagio is a different looking Touch Diamond2/ AT&T Pure. I doubt it will since you guys have a different size screen and mebe other Hardware changes because it's CDMA but you could try.
The Topaz Android does work on the Touch Pro 2. The Imagio could be considered the bastard child of the Diamond2 and Pro2.

nobody listen to this bs. only flash your phone with imagio roms. if you are going to run an enviroment, make sure it is for the imagio. the imagio might kinda look like this phone and act like that phone, but its not this or that phone. dont screw your device up. just hang in there.

You are a complete retard. Don't post before you research. Android on a Windows Mobile device does not require a flash. It is an image that boots up inside of WM and "kills" WM and boots Android. It causes absolutely no harm to your phone.
RESEARCH before you post your dumb idiotic ideas that have absolutely no base.

listen dumbass,
i told them not to use roms and various other crap made for other phones, because and i know this may come to a shock to someone who is an expert like you, but..............phones vary. why dont you do some research. start by googling "whats a phone" and then go on to searching "why am i such a dumbass"

yet again IMAGE not a ROM. If you start the IMAGE in windows mobile it will boot android. If you RESET the phone its windows mobile again..... No harm, no damage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser:install
"Installing Android
Currently, Android is booted from within Windows Mobile. It does not run INSIDE Windows Mobile nor is it emulated! An application named HaRET is used as a bootloader to REBOOT the device into Android."
Now I am sorry if I offended you and I agree people should not just go and put and ROM on your phone...
I am also not responsible if someone does mess up there stuff, precautions should be taken.

I understand how the whole android ordeal works, i was voicing concern over the fact that it says Kaiser. It doesent say WinMo, it specifically says Kaiser. I can only assume this is because it has not been tested for full functionality on other devices. While yes, I see no real reason why this shouldnt work, it truthfully may not. You and me both have been there man, you put something on your phone, it should work, it works, then suddenly your hard resetting. I simply dont want any newbies to start throwing stuff for different model phones on their device thinking its going to be fine. I was simply saying if it isnt designed for your model phone specifically, do some research, ask around see if someone has it working on their device.

Kaiser = HTC Kaiser which is a Windows Mobile phone.

*sigh* honestly, just forget it.

Americanmetal said:
Kaiser = HTC Kaiser which is a Windows Mobile phone.
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Just because it is a Windows Mobile phone doesn't mean it will work...
HTC Kaiser DOES NOT equal HTC Imagio.
The entire basis of why we are still waiting for ROMs on the Imagio is because it is a DIFFERENT phone model..obviously just because there is an Android build able to run on Windows Mobile doesn't mean we can just use it right off the bat.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=104666
case in point. this guy had to tweak it heavily and it still doesent work right.
why?
because its not a direct line. yes, kaiser= htc kaiser blah blah blah
but phone models are DIFFERENT.
whether its a rom, or a .cab, or ANYTHING if it isnt made for your phone, theres a good chance it WONT work. theres your proof. if this build worked on ALL windows mobile phones, various builds dedicated to specific models would not be around folks. thank you.

Quick question about 'OEM' product.

First of all Hello everyone, I'm Luke and I'm pretty new to the windows mobile scene.
I've wanted a windows mobile phone for a few years now however price tags were not so appealing to me, but now I've purchased my first windows phone and it should be arriving tomorrow or within the next few days. It also seems that I've bought one at a good time as I'm happy to see a lot of development going on for 6.1/6.5 which is awesome - I like playing around with gadgets more than actually using them.
But here is the catch, whilst I've posted this in the HTC TD2 section here, the phone I've bought isn't actually a TD2. At least not an official one. It's one of the Chinese models found on eBay. I don't want a moral debate going on here - it was a bargain and it's my first step into using a Windows phone which I'm looking forward to for a decent price. It looks like a TD2 and the seller has claimed it is 'OEM Produce' however I don't believe him really.
What I wanted to ask was how will I go about flashing, updating, installing ROM's and the such on this phone? Will it be more than enough to follow instructions for a standard TD2? I hope someone here who understands hardware device and such will be able to clear that up for me.
The phone is using the same processor as the original TD2, and has the same resolution etc. Not sure if it has the same amount of ROM/RAM however it's being shipped with WM 6.1 so it has enough I presume. Are there any other hardware differences that will effect the ROM's I can use? Can I even use the same ROM's you guys are using? I don't care about the lower quality camera and less important things like that.
Thanks for any advice (sorry it was a bit long winded)
Please scroll down to see my most recent post! Thanks!

Thats is a very tricky question you are asking here.
First of all, nothing is certain or guaranteed of what you might receive there. After all, the product you receive will be a counterfeit phone, a fake trying to mock a real TD2. And as with any fake products you get the same quality issues. How do you know for sure that it has the same processor?? Just because they write it there? The same can apply to the RAM, ROM, Display etc.! It is in my opinion HIGHLY unlikely that the phone you will receive, will have anything in common (technology-wise) with the real TD2. The TD2 combines a lot of recent technology like that hd screen, cam and ram. What you will find underneath of yours might be a mash-up of older HTC phones like the Diamond or even older..who knows!? You can continue this uncertainty with the Windows that phone is running...it will be some homecooked release that is made to work with the components the phone features. As they will be different to TD2 as we have clarified earlier, the ROMs available here will most certainly not work ideally with yours....and i would be highly surprised to see a forum that will be dedicated to a fake TD2 lolz. Anyways, I think you get my point...I dont really see why you would ship yourself a chinese mock-up to start with a Windows Mobile phone...I dont, really. There are so many nice cheap hq HTC phones out there that still support 6.5 to-date. I have been using a HTC Excalibur (S620/621/Dash) for like 4 years and kept buying the same phone since then because i LOVE it. The quality is superb and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5 like a charm. You can pickup a brandnew unlocked one for $100 at the bay. Just a week ago i decided to upgrade and bought a new TD2...not here yet but same as you i am very excited Im sorry that i drifted off into a moral debate by the way
If you really want to embark on trying to update your phone you will have to analyze the rom closely to see what phone's ROM it is actually running. This will help you to find the according forum in here.
Good luck

I concur with vivid22, The internals of your phone will certainly be different to those of the original HTC build and as such you may have many unforseen troubles if you do flash the rom.
But if you decide to proceed with a rom flash i would be very interested to hear of your results.
You may also be interested in using some benchmark software and comparing how your phone performs compared to ours, maybe you can discover if the CPU is indeed the correct performance. Its all quite interesting.
Oh and welcome to the forums

Thanks for your responses guys! Very informative.
While I'm not going to respond to the most obvious statements like it being a counterfeit and it sucking etc in much detail because of course you are right! but I knew this when I bought it. The price is the real difference here and I don't mind if I can't flash it but I too am interested if it will actually work .
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive and yes you both are right it has a very high chance that it is using different internals and I expect this, however the seller seems to state its using very similar hardware.
I will be more than happy to mess around with it, I guess I will dump the ROM first if I can then try installing some 6.5 etc - no problem trying I guess. I must say I've seen some clones from merimobiles.com (or something) with TouchFlo and I think even WinMo 6.5 but then again obtaining those ROM's will be a quest in itself. Not sure if mine is being shipped with TouchFlo, it has it in the screen shots on the listening but that really counts for nothing .
I have seen a few threads on these devices and their flash capability but not any with any definitive results so hopefully I can get the ball rolling. When I actually receive my product I will be able to tell if it is actually using the same processor, etc.

I believe you will find that Hard SPL will not flash to unlock your device.
Many here have tried with the same knock-offs.

Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?

Lukeff7 said:
Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
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No, SPL unlocks the OS, not the SIM.
Bootloader mode is how you determine your current SPL.

Okay. So I should be able to (hopefully) get into bootloader and find the SPL it currently has.
Well I guess thats it until I actually recieve the phone, cheers guys I'll post how I get on for the people who are interested.

It will be very interesting to hear about it. hope you get what you ordered?
God luck

Well, I'm back, for anyone who is interested!
Phone finally came, snow over here in the UK slowed it down haha!
So, the phone is very good for what I paid, and very nice.
I'd like to go about flashing it though, as it's currently running 6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell. SPB is very nice, but I really like the look of Touch Flo.
Now while cosmetically the phone looks pretty close to the TD2, it has a few things like no front camera (don't really care) and the zoom bar also seems to do absolutely nothing. The phone runs as smooth as it should. It has no g-sensor as far as I can tell, shame but doesn't really matter.
All of this sounds like it has no chance, I think it even has less RAM than it was meant to but I'm not sure... But here is why I am still curious about trying:
Windows Mobile is reporting that it is using the 528Mhz MSM7200A processor.
That is what I believe the real TD2 uses, correct me if I am wrong.
If this means it is using the same chipset or what-have you as the TD2, I don't know. This is why I need help.
Really, what I am asking, is what kind of things can I look at in the phone to tell what I could possibly flash it with?
Do you think the HardSPL utility you all use will work with it? Is there even any way to tell, or should I just try anyway? And could that break the phone beyond repair? Is there a way to find out the real specs of this phone, because it may have been modified so that it read that processor name?
What do you guys think. I'm willing to try all sorts, I just don't want to brick it with no way of getting it back that's why I am just asking for opinions before I do it anyway.
Thanks

You will brick your phone for sure if you try a rom for Diamond2, search this forum for chinese ROM (I saw it somewhere on another thread in Topaz section), but watch out that you will have a clean windows without customizations includind TF3D.

What ROM should I get?

I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You

JRM.joaquin said:
I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You
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The stock ROMs are generally pretty bloated and prone to freezing. I would recommend that you read the Hard SPL thread, then go ahead and flash the Hard SPL. This will enable to you flash any ROM you like.
Once you have done that first step, just choose a ROM (look over the various choices in this section). You can always flash a different choice later.
WARNING: Make sure your phone is GSM before flashing a ROM from this forum!

^^^^ what he said
You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by flashing a custom ROM - you can always try another one or go back to stock if you don't like it. Just make sure you back up any data that you want to restore (e.g. contacts, messages etc) before you flash.
All the info you need are in the stickies - e.g. the HardSPL thread for flashing HardSPL, and the "Flashing your First GSM Rhodium ROM" thread.
If you're not sure which ROM to pick, you could always just pick one of the most popular ones to start with, based on the assumption there must be a fairly good reason for those to be the more popular ones.

what I did
Hey
I am about to flash my phone too. I also have it for more then a year ( since last September ) and i did a bit of research just for piece of mind
The most important step is Hard SPL this is so if something goes horribly wrong u can still re-flash it to try and repair the damage ( someone confirm this: there no hardware damage done when u flash , its all just software), besides its also needed in order to flash custom roms aka cooked roms.
For what custom rom to get I did the folowing: sorted the threads based on stats ( posts / views ) and looked at the most popular ones and something struck: Energy rom by NRGZ28 is BY FAR the most popular one, so it must be good for a 1st try then some new unknown cooked rom
Also if you would like to get more info I found this youtube video ( 20 mins / 2 parts ) very informative:
Since I'm new and can't post links search for " Real Time ROM Flashing " and u will find it.

Goliath.ro said:
Hey
The most important step is Hard SPL this is so if something goes horribly wrong u can still re-flash it to try and repair the damage ( someone confirm this: there no hardware damage done when u flash , its all just software), besides its also needed in order to flash custom roms aka cooked roms.
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HardSPL removes the SPL lock which normally only allows flashing of ROMs officially released by your carrier. Without it, you won't be flashing anything, except official ROM updates from your carrier. Yes, HardSPL allows you to run Task29, which formats/wipes the memory. And in some cases this can help you recover from a bad flash. Sometimes flashing back to the stock ROM can help you recover as well.

Goliath.ro said:
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IFor what custom rom to get I did the folowing: sorted the threads based on stats ( posts / views ) and looked at the most popular ones and something struck: Energy rom by NRGZ28 is BY FAR the most popular one, so it must be good for a 1st try then some new unknown cooked rom
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Energy ROM is what I use, and I love it. Its a good tradoff of speed/stability and looks/features. But some feel its not the fastest or most "lightweight" ROM out there. If you want that, some people have recommend Jackos or Valkyrie. Also, lots of people like Deep Shining.
There really is no "best" ROM. It depends on whether you prefer eye candy or speed (or somewhere in the middle), what kind of apps you like to have cooked in, etc.
But I agree to the previous advice given to the OP. Flashing a custom ROM will fix many, many things over the stock ROM. Your phone will be faster, more stable, and have more functionality and features. Figuring out how to flash a custom ROM can be a little intimidating at first. But once you've learned how to do it, its really a snap. And then you will wonder why you ever waited so long to do it! Just make sure you read all the "stickied" guides, read as much as you can about the ROM you are flashing, and follow the instructions carefully.

JRM.joaquin said:
I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You
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I recommend Jackos S2 Rom. It is by far the fastest rom i've tried. When you first flash it, it looks very close to a stock rom and it works great just like that and if you want to, you can modify it to your liking. If you want to take a look, you can find the thread here--->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617. If you want to see what it looks like modified, take a look at my profile pic. Jackos rom has been what i've used for the last few months. Like everyone else before me said, do the HSPL before anything.

Thanks everyone. Really really appreciate all the comments. You guys definitely gave me enough ideas and confidence to flash my phone. I can't wait XD

JRM.joaquin said:
Thanks everyone. Really really appreciate all the comments. You guys definitely gave me enough ideas and confidence to flash my phone. I can't wait XD
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You can also read ROM reviews on The Wingster. But there's no best ROM as everyone said. Find something that fits what you need....
If you want SPEED: Choose a Sense 2.1 ROM or even a ROM without Sense (a.k.a. Titanium)
If you want FEATURES: Choose a Sense 2.5 ROM, with CookieHomeTab or another similar enhancement. They will be slower overall, but they have some neat extra features.
Go with Windows Mobile 6.5.5 unless you really like the Windows Mobile 6.5 design.
Then test out a few ROM's and see what works for you.
If you need any help, in addition to the forums, you can use the Support link on The Wingster and I can help you out. But if you read all of the instructions, everything should work well!

I did my little research and I believe it's a GSM. My phone is TILT 2..is that right?

JRM.joaquin said:
I did my little research and I believe it's a GSM. My phone is TILT 2..is that right?
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If you bought your phone from AT&T, then YES it is a Tilt 2, which is GSM.
Your phone is always GSM except if you bought it from Verizon, Sprint, or Telus. Every other provider (T-Mobile, AT&T, and worldwide ones) is GSM!
So if yours is GSM, pick any ROM from the forums here.

Check under the battery if it takes a SIM card its gsm..

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Check under the battery if it takes a SIM card its gsm..
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Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.

steviewevie said:
Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.
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Only CDMA Worldphones do have a sim slot.

Sorry guys, but I´m a little bit noobish about that. How can I get if I am "GSM" or "CDMA" with Touch Pro 2 for sure ? I still don´t get the signs of recognizing....
I saw some thread about it, but still do not understand the problem of this separation.

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Only CDMA Worldphones do have a sim slot.
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Yeah but this is the Rhodium forum, and were're talking about Rhodiums. So my answer was about CDMA Rhodiums (which are Worldphones).

Unilqadium said:
Sorry guys, but I´m a little bit noobish about that. How can I get if I am "GSM" or "CDMA" with Touch Pro 2 for sure ? I still don´t get the signs of recognizing....
I saw some thread about it, but still do not understand the problem of this separation.
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Take the back off your phone, remove the battery, and look for some lettering under there. It should say "RHODxxx", where the "xxx" are three digits.
RHOD100, RHOD200, RHOD300 (and variants) are GSM. RHOD400 and RHOD500 are CDMA.

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Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.
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Yea only a dual band phone would still have a slot if it has gsm slot its gsm or dual band point blank... Know what your talking about before you speak..

can a world phone use these roms?
i just got my touch pro 2 off ebay for $200, new in box, which is a pretty good deal. Anyway I want 2 flash one of these roms. The phone's original company is Telus. This phone's marked RH0D500, it's got a GSM slot but is listed as CDMA... (I'm on at&t) From what I read it seems that this has to be treated as a CDMA phone? r there any cdma roms that will still allow me to get corporate emails and use all the good functions of this phone? Oh if anyone's interested the guy i got it from on ebay has like 5 more, but if they're only going to work with CDMA roms then people should probably not buy them for that reason...

panda4sale said:
i just got my touch pro 2 off ebay for $200, new in box, which is a pretty good deal. Anyway I want 2 flash one of these roms. The phone's original company is Telus. This phone's marked RH0D00, it's got a GSM slot but is listed as CDMA... (I'm on at&t) From what I read it seems that this has to be treated as a CDMA phone? r there any cdma roms that will still allow me to get corporate emails and use all the good functions of this phone? Oh if anyone's interested the guy i got it from on ebay has like 5 more, but if they're only going to work with CDMA roms then people should probably not buy them for that reason...
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As far as I am aware "RHOD00" is not a valid marking. Is that a typo? Or maybe you should look again. It should be RHOD100, RHOD200, RHOD300, RHOD400, RHOD500, and there may be some variants, like RHOD210. But there should be 3 digits after "RHOD" under the battery. Looking around the net, the Telus version should be RHOD500.
All the "CDMA" variants of the Touch Pro 2 actually also have a GSM radio as well (and therefore a SIM slot) since they are intended for "World" use (international travel). This is because CDMA alone is nearly useless for foreign travel, since most countries outside of North America use GSM. So the presence of a SIM slot will not tell you whether its GSM or CDMA.
For the purposes of these forums, the versions of the TP2 that are CDMA/GSM are considered "CDMA" and can only flash the CDMA ROMs. Phones that are solely GSM radio should only be flashed with GSM ROMs. Flashing a GSM ROM to a CDMA/GSM Rhodium will render it inoperative.
The Telus version of the TP2 looks to have the correct GSM bands (850 and 1900 MHz) to work on ATT. But the phone will need to be SIM unlocked, if it isn't already. If you Google around, you will find some posts on the net (and probably on here too), where people have gotten the CDMA/GSM versions to work on AT&T and T-Mobile, so it should work (if SIM unlocked). But it appears you will only have EDGE data speed, not 3G, since the HSDPA/UMTS radios seem to be missing from the Telus version, based on looking at the phone's specs.
You would have been better off buying the ATT version of the phone, the Tilt2. Its the only version that has the necessary hardware to get 3G data speeds on the ATT network. And you should completely understand all the specs before you buy any phone that isn't from your carrier.

Confusion about all these newly released Roms...

Hi, I'm totally confused with all these new roms being released by multiple people. Do these reap any benefits? are they customized roms? are there new themes or something like the android roms and old WM phone roms? Sorry for the newb-like question, I just wanted to get things straightened out because they SEEM to be like factory ROMs but in diff languages or something?

XxGoKoUxX said:
Hi, I'm totally confused with all these new roms being released by multiple people. Do these reap any benefits? are they customized roms? are there new themes or something like the android roms and old WM phone roms? Sorry for the newb-like question, I just wanted to get things straightened out because they SEEM to be like factory ROMs but in diff languages or something?
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I totaly agree with you... it's extremly confusing. I've got a HD7 from O2 Germany, but I'm on t-mobile. The reception of my O2-HD7 is very poor compared to my old HD2, so I would like to switch from the O2-ROM to HTC-Europe version with the newest radio-ROM.... but those threads are so extremly confusing... I don't realy know what EXACTLY to do... flash this, than falsh that... and after that flash this... ;-)

Their simple. Just put some effort into reading it and less into whinning. Just read
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evolutionqy7 said:
Their simple. Just put some effort into reading it and less into whinning. Just read
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There you go with that whining crack again. WTF is wrong with you? Be more helpful or STFU.

Agree with you guys .. they are confusing that I dont even wanna try
But Yeah I am flash junkie with Android, so many tutorials and so easily done.
Am on O2 UK , but I guess I wait and see what the Official updates bring to us before experimenting with these custom roms.
I so love my BIG HD 7

+1 here.
With WinMo, I could even flash an Android rom and feel comfortable doing it.
With the HD7, just looking at the numbers of schubert roms, I hardly know which one to pick. And if I do pick one, I'm really afraid to even try it. Or if there really is a need to even try it.
But I can understand the enthusiasm of the guys doing the efforts of sharing these roms. It's just that some guys (like myself) are not really that much literate.

And what your doing isnt whining?
There was a point where i looked at it and said **** that. Too much crap there.
But once i sat down and read it properly. It was easy.

I somewhat agree with evolution, they are not difficult to understand if you take your time.
Nevertheless, I think fear & lack of knowledge/experience prevents most people from actually trying them or even bothering to read the whole thing, especially ao for people who have not done this before, I can see how it gets confusing.
I think well organized and newb-friendly threads will definitely make them very popular very quickly..

yeah yeah yeah, read this read that..... all i see on these threads is flash this to get 02UK whatever.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876451
I dont see them writing the purpose to flashing these ROMs, you must be confused with my question about "how to flash" vs "the purpose of flashing"
I mean, in the android forums, or the older winmo forums, u can see that they flashed the phone to get some new flashy OS's or to fix out old bugs.

I'm with Goku here. I think it would help people to know what to expect when they flash a rom. Say "if you flash THIS you'll get THESE; 1.), 2.), etc.."
From that list it's like, "flash this rom & find out for yourselves what it'll do to your device." Or if this is the case, at least let it say it is.

all people are getting is updated firmware and radio ware.
Its not custom or anything its just updated software.

Thank you evo =]
One more question, what are the advantages to these updated firmwares and radio's?

Firmware update from HTC and a new Radio.
Theres only a few firmware roms. Most of them just have different radios for you to choose.
The latest O2 Rom i have now has weaker reception but reasonably better battery life than with the stock one.
As i said these roms contain the exact stuff as your one that came from the factory only with different firmware and radio. Radio is the main difference. Other than that i didnt see any performance improvements or anything.

ty evo, that clears up a lot =]
so radio's change signal settings with your provider, correct?

Well finaly someone is making sense,lol .
I was lost too, glad i didnt flash my phone .

One thing this dose not say are these offical so called ROM's Firmware what ever there called
can I flash the phone and use it as if I had it out of the shop, in other words can I play games and buy appllications (NOT JAILBROKE)

ERROR [206] : CONNECTION
The Update Utility cannot connect to your PDA Phone. Please cheack that your USB cradle/cable is connected properly between the PC and your PDA Phone.
Check the following:
1. The PDA Phone is connected to the USB cradle/cable.
2. the USB cradle/cable is connected to the PC.
Click 'EXIT' to quit

when they talk about "ActiveSync" are they talking about Zune?
or are they talking about "Windows 7 Active Sync"

Check this thread out, it might help you out a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-903769.html

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Check this thread out, it might help you out a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-903769.html
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Ok thanks
So Active Sync is only done when holding down these two buttons
Phone Off
Volume Down Button
Power Button
what one do I need to download to have no branding on it at all I rebranded as telstra who ever they are :S
would like unbraded, think im downloading HTC EU atm