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is there a way to port / recompile OpenOffice for Android?
There are a lot of good and great applications that are linux native out there.
I'm rather surprised we don't see more of those software like OpenOffice / FireFox / Thunderbird ported over for Android.
i was soooo looking forward to run those on my phone.
i know some groups are already working on a mobile version of firefox (Fennec), but there's no news about Thunderbird, and according to some stuff i read on the OpenOffice forum they don't seem very eager to port it to Android, as it took them a while to port it to MAC OS.
yet it's still a java based app... oh well...
at the moment i'm using "Docs To Go", not ideal, but it does for now, until OpenOffice comes aboard.
I've been using Docs To Go since my PalmOS days, is not bad, but is not great either.
docs to go seem to have worsen from palm to winmo to android. the android version is all flashy with smooth scrolling, pinch zoom etc but actual functionality is lacking. for eg; in the spreadsheet - editing is cumbersome, changing worksheets need few presses.
still looking for a good office suite/spreadsheet for android.
A lot of software like that is not written to run on low-powered systems (which an android phone clearly is compared to todays PCs) and Android lacks a lot of functionality that is present in complete linux kernels and so rewriting would take a major effort and few people would benefit from an open-office port (and even if, they would be minor since nobody will actually do a lot of office work on their phone).
AllGamer said:
is there a way to port / recompile OpenOffice for Android?
There are a lot of good and great applications that are linux native out there.
I'm rather surprised we don't see more of those software like OpenOffice / FireFox / Thunderbird ported over for Android.
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Unfortunately, Android is to Linux as Windows Mobile is to Windows 7. They're related, but not strictly intercompatible.
Android only really uses the Linux kernel. Practically none of the stuff that makes Linux recognisable as Linux to end-users. For Open Offic, Firefox etc to work as a simple port, you would need a whole bunch of extra stuff in Android that just isn't there. Of course, that's not stopping anyone from porting those things, but Android with X11, GTK and Gnome wouldn't really be Android anymore, would it?
Of course, I feel your pain.. I just want a simple text editor that can open and save .txt files, but I can't find one! Bah!
unfnknblvbl said:
Unfortunately, Android is to Linux as Windows Mobile is to Windows 7. They're related, but not strictly intercompatible.
Android only really uses the Linux kernel. Practically none of the stuff that makes Linux recognisable as Linux to end-users. For Open Offic, Firefox etc to work as a simple port, you would need a whole bunch of extra stuff in Android that just isn't there. Of course, that's not stopping anyone from porting those things, but Android with X11, GTK and Gnome wouldn't really be Android anymore, would it?
Of course, I feel your pain.. I just want a simple text editor that can open and save .txt files, but I can't find one! Bah!
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Linux IS only really the kernel.
kevo said:
Linux IS only really the kernel.
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Still, in this context it clearly refers to any desktop linux distribution. And that comprising isn't far off.
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It's been done
AndrOpen Office
Download: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.andropenoffice
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Hello everyone,
Is it possible to run dual OS on the galaxy S tab? Like Android and Apple !?
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yahase said:
Hello everyone,
Is it possible to run dual OS on the galaxy S tab? Like Android and Apple !?
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Is that a serious question?
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Seems like a legitimate question to me, ViewSonic's ViewPad 10 already does Android-Windows dualbooting, and XDA itself has a thread about dualbooting the HD2 with WM and Android.
If the OP's asking about Android and iOS specifically though, then probably the answer might be no. If someone could do it though, it might actually be a good thing for the Android crowd: shows the Apple fans that choice and customizability is a good thing.
I was thinking the other day that my Tab would be pretty cool if running Windows Thin PC, saw info and a download on the MS site the other day while working on my wifes netbook.
I dont see a problem with either a full working version of Ubuntu or Windows on the GT and Android, or just the full OS. Seems reasonable to put an OS on what is essentially a tablet PC.
I would think its just a matter of a bios, and loading the OS, but I am not a programmer, so I could very well be wrong.
But....I'd load Windows or Ubuntu on the tab if it gave me the 3G ability as well as all other functions.
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I was thinking the other day that my Tab would be pretty cool if running Windows Thin PC, saw info and a download on the MS site the other day while working on my wifes netbook.
I dont see a problem with either a full working version of Ubuntu or Windows on the GT and Android, or just the full OS. Seems reasonable to put an OS on what is essentially a tablet PC.
I would think its just a matter of a bios, and loading the OS, but I am not a programmer, so I could very well be wrong.
But....I'd load Windows or Ubuntu on the tab if it gave me the 3G ability as well as all other functions.
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IIRC I think there's already a thread on XDA on bringing Ubuntu to the Tab. With Windows it might be trickier. The ViewSonic ViewPad 10 runs on Intel Atom, which is already used by other netbooks that run Windows. Windows might not be designed to run on ARM however, which is used on many Android devices. Processor design differences may be the key factor in porting the OS. (I've gotten Gingerbread to run on my Atom netbook though, alas I still couldn't get the touch screen to work)
Would be the first to jump onto dualbooting Android with Windows if it ever comes to fruition though; I'm a Windows developer and it'll be cool if I could write small apps and use them on my Tab.
oldmacnut said:
I dont see a problem with either a full working version of Ubuntu or Windows on the GT and Android, or just the full OS. Seems reasonable to put an OS on what is essentially a tablet PC.
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You can't run Windows because there is currently no ARM version, though MS say that they will support ARM in Windows 8, but by the time this sees the light of day, the Tab will be obsolete.
There is a thread in the dev forum about porting Ubuntu to the Tab, but I believe it is still a long way from fully functional.
Regards,
Dave
I already posted the question about fully functions in ubuntu for the tab. Specially the phone and sms functions but they denied it. I keep following and hope some day it will work
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Thanks for the responses guys. Let's hope one day it would be possible!
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since both iOS and Android are ARM based in most cases, you could probably make it happen.
Both Android and iOS are Unix based, so we could achieve this.
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It could be easier to port iOS than Honeycomb because iOS source code is avalaible for public, for improvements and bug seeking.
So, Yes, we could have dual OS on the tab, it could be windows, Ubuntu, Maemo, iOS and even Symbian
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It could be easier to port iOS than Honeycomb because iOS source code is avalaible for public, for improvements and bug seeking.
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iOS source code is most certainly not available!
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Dave
Ubuntu just released Ubuntu phone os as see running on a galaxy nexus. This thing looks wonderful and I can wait to see it come to the nexus 4. Check this out
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3827922/ubuntu-phone-os-announcement
If it was up to me I think this is what android should evolve into even if it meant Google buying Ubuntu.
This is very well thought out is which basically uses the entire phone screen things are done through swypes and speech and everything looks like it works. The only thing may be app support.
Here is a hands on video by The Verge and Engadget
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3828266/ubuntu-phone-os-hands-on
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
heat361 said:
Ubuntu just released Ubuntu phone os as see running on a galaxy nexus. This thing looks wonderful and I can wait to see it come to the nexus 4. Check this out
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3827922/ubuntu-phone-os-announcement
If it was up to me I think this is what android should evolve into even if it meant Google buying Ubuntu.
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Before becoming an android fan I always thought that it would be better to have a full fledge os and not what android had to offer. I would love a.port of this on my tablet. Just running a full office suite on my tab or phone is a dream come true
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danyal241 said:
Before becoming an android fan I always thought that it would be better to have a full fledge os and not what android had to offer. I would love a.port of this on my tablet. Just running a full office suite on my tab or phone is a dream come true
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This looks amazing I really think Google should purchase Ubuntu.They would have a desktop is and a phone is while they could intergrate their play store along with their core Google services.
Edit:I updated the thread with a hands on by The Verge
This is great. Thanks for sharing.
danyal241 said:
Before becoming an android fan I always thought that it would be better to have a full fledge os and not what android had to offer. I would love a.port of this on my tablet. Just running a full office suite on my tab or phone is a dream come true
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Its not a full fledged Linux OS its Ubuntu's version of a phone OS, basically Ubuntu Android. The docking mentioned in the promo sounds like the Motorola Atrix concept all over. There are developers who have ported Ubuntu to other phones but they pretty much had limited usability for lack of drivers; no wifi, data, etc. This should port over easier as it uses android drivers. Also sounds like all android apps will not work with this?
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This is great. Thanks for sharing.
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It is great there is a little lag but this is pre release software and I believe it could be easily fixed.But even with the lag on a galaxy nexus I think this would run beautifully smooth on a nexus 4.
Edit:Thread updated with engadgets hands on
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Its not a full fledged Linux OS its Ubuntu's version of a phone OS, basically Ubuntu Android. The docking mentioned in the promo sounds like the Motorola Atrix concept all over. There are developers who have ported Ubuntu to other phones but they pretty much had limited usability for lack of drivers; no wifi, data, etc. This should port over easier as it uses android drivers. Also sounds like all android apps will not work with this?
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Yep it doesn't look like android apps would work, but if they could make that work or even evolve android into something like this it would be cool.
What's the definition of "full fledged" Linux OS? We're getting close on the kernel. Otherwise install Busybox and you're there, IMO
Exactly like Ubuntu's Desktop the limitations here will be apps.. I prefer my Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux Mint + Cinnamon over all OS's including Chrome & MacOS, but the lack of apps (which isn't changing anytime soon) will be insurmountable
crachel said:
What's the definition of "full fledged" Linux OS? We're getting close on the kernel. Otherwise install Busybox and you're there, IMO
Exactly like Ubuntu's Desktop the limitations here will be apps.. I prefer my Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux Mint + Cinnamon over all OS's including Chrome & MacOS, but the lack of apps (which isn't changing anytime soon) will be insurmountable
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Yes the os is is nice and it does work, but the major downfall of this is app support and developer support;they need this to take Ubuntu phone os to the top.
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Its not a full fledged Linux OS its Ubuntu's version of a phone OS, basically Ubuntu Android. The docking mentioned in the promo sounds like the Motorola Atrix concept all over. There are developers who have ported Ubuntu to other phones but they pretty much had limited usability for lack of drivers; no wifi, data, etc. This should port over easier as it uses android drivers. Also sounds like all android apps will not work with this?
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Well, it'll obviously be a lot better when Ubuntu creates it rather than uninvolved developers, of course. Ubuntu is usually not one to disappoint.
Also, I don't really get why they skipped the Nexus 4 and went with the Galaxy Nexus. Maybe it's just cause not enough people own the Nexus 4 yet, and due to supply as well, rather than demand.
I think this should be Android based, like TouchWiz. Then we could just easily flash it like a custom ROM and all our apps would be compatible and available from GPlay.
I think I'll still try this out though, looks promising.
Did I hear that it won't come to phones until 2014?
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Did I hear that it won't come to phones until 2014?
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Purchasable phones is what they meant by that. The firmware images are being released soon, which should find there way to a multitude of devices shortly.
It'll be much better than any other OS as long as it gets support, the desktop version is amazing but lack of developer support means you have to use Windows still. I'm not a fan of stock Android, Google never seem to be able to keep up, Touchwiz is so much better. So I cannot wait to see what Ubuntu will turn out like after a few revisions.
crachel said:
What's the definition of "full fledged" Linux OS? We're getting close on the kernel. Otherwise install Busybox and you're there, IMO
Exactly like Ubuntu's Desktop the limitations here will be apps.. I prefer my Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux Mint + Cinnamon over all OS's including Chrome & MacOS, but the lack of apps (which isn't changing anytime soon) will be insurmountable
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There was a dev in the Incredible forums who tried to port Ubuntu to the phone, he got it to boot and then pretty much quit. I think the same thing was also tried with the Eris back in 2010.
Was just reading multiple articles on this seems very promising
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I am guessing its's going to be open source like openwebos(so we can port it ). Can anyone confirm that?
It's just the beginning...
Ubuntu for Android is coming next year. I did a quick article for these guys below. About half way down is the video demonstrations of Ubuntu for Android, which is separate from Ubuntu Phone from what I understand.
http://androidlexicon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-for-android.html
smadger said:
Ubuntu for Android is coming next year. I did a quick article for these guys below. About half way down is the video demonstrations of Ubuntu for Android, which is separate from Ubuntu Phone from what I understand.
http://androidlexicon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-for-android.html
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From what I heard they are 2 separate things,but both os can be docked to display ubuntu
leventccc said:
I am guessing its's going to be open source like openwebos(so we can port it ). Can anyone confirm that?
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Yes it will be opened source just like Ubuntu. The Ubuntu phone images should be out for the galaxy nexus in a week
Edit:for those wondering how to build apps for it or are curious about apps they have a QML toolkit read more here
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/app-ecosystem
http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
There are a lot of threads abut Ubuntu and other Linux distros. I was wondering if anyone has tried to port ChromiumOS (or something of the sort) to it.
I did fine this but not sure its helpful.
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runnirr said:
There are a lot of threads abut Ubuntu and other Linux distros. I was wondering if anyone has tried to port ChromiumOS (or something of the sort) to it.
I did fine this but not sure its helpful.
Thanks
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Possible definitely. I'm not sure what the advantages would be over Android though.
Ubuntu adds functionality, ChromeOS doesn't. That's why Ubuntu ports are common, it isn't just another browser that Android already provides.
Chromium OS doesn't have a Virtual Keyboard so it's pointless on a tablet anyway...
Chrome and Chromium OS would look and feel cool.
But as others have said limited functionalities such as apps, no v keys, and plus precious coding time.
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I know Chrome OS is limited, and although it is, it would be an interesting task to try, but would Chrome OS work on the Touchpad's armel processor? Because I know the Samsung Chromebook's Exynos processor is armhf, and I think Chromium OS does have an armel branch available, I haven't seen any armel based devices being able to run Chrom* OS.
Also recompiling drivers for a limited OS like Chrom* OS would probably be a lot harder than more common OSes. If someone does decide to make a build, it can't be distributed freely as plugins that Google has included are illegal to distribute publicly (like GApps on custom Android roms), so no Flash.
I have looking for opensuse builds and have not seen any. It would be nice if there was a boot loader like grub for the tp
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First of all, my apologies if this thread belongs to Q&A - I was not sure mods.
I read about Jolla Sailfish OS being open source. Is it possible to port it on Galaxy S? I have seen no discussion about it. Sailfish OS does look promising.
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DJ
I'm curious, what is the advantage of Jolla vs android?
For a short while I was excited to hear ubuntu was making its way to phones, then with a mix of going from ubuntu to arch on my desktop and the realization that ubuntu doesn't have much of an advantage over android anyway I kinda forgot about it...
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http://mer-project.blogspot.co.at/2013/04/wayland-utilizing-android-gpu-drivers.html?m=1
Sailfish uses mer as core of its system. I once read a blogpost...see above...that they try to make the display server wayland,the new xserver replacement compatible with android graphic drivers. I think it will be possible to get the rest of the drivers also somehow working....well i want sailfish too but atm i can only wait
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Hr Kristian said:
I'm curious, what is the advantage of Jolla vs android?
For a short while I was excited to hear ubuntu was making its way to phones, then with a mix of going from ubuntu to arch on my desktop and the realization that ubuntu doesn't have much of an advantage over android anyway I kinda forgot about it...
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android has the fragmentation and lagging problem after a certain usage. also the interface of jolla is really nice , why buying a Jolla if SGS still has some fight left in its big heart?? :victory::victory::victory:
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http://mer-project.blogspot.co.at/2013/04/wayland-utilizing-android-gpu-drivers.html?m=1
Sailfish uses mer as core of its system. I once read a blogpost...see above...that they try to make the display server wayland,the new xserver replacement compatible with android graphic drivers. I think it will be possible to get the rest of the drivers also somehow working....well i want sailfish too but atm i can only wait
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Aye Wayland is exciting, but what with all the snags it runs into (Ubuntu abandoning it, getting forked) the relatively small team will probably not complete it in a few years yet...
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Sailfish OS Now Supports Android Apps Officially
Maybe this will be an added incentive along with the refreshing UI.of Sailfish os.
Link : http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/09/sailfish-os-now-supports-android-apps-officially/?utm_source=mobile
I'd really like to have Jolla OS on our phone to try Now that its out ...
Crazy what all is possible ...:good:
YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64ja7WBHU8
Looks okay, but there's nothing really groundbreaking about it, or anything that's a real advantage over android considering the customisation you can do with android, or am I missing something?
I had a look at a couple of demo videos for it but I can't see any great things about it that would make me want to change OS. I've already got a hidden status bar(expanded desktop), on off toggles for things I like to be able to quickly switch(quick settings), and nice looking customised home screens.
Controlling apps from their multitasking thumbnails was the only real new thing I saw, and about the only use for that is pausing music or skipping tracks (which was obviously the way it was demonstrated in their videos, because it's pretty much the only use for such a feature). With any other app you need to be able to see what you're doing, so even that is a bit pointless.
Oh, and sailfish is a silly name.
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It`s not about customizations or having something special. It is new and hopefully wont start lagging after one week of heavy use
Proud owner of an ASUS TF300T stock and the "old faithful" SGS i9000 powered by AndroSlim
Anything new is welcome with an open heart. It's not about jumping ship to a new OS ... But trying them is what I am interested in the most.
I still want to user Ubuntu Touch on daily basis but it's the app ecosystem the issue for my daily use.
Is any here can port sailfish os for us
As using android on this device is very laggy even if u flash GB (2.3.x)
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