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Hello everyone,
Is it possible to run dual OS on the galaxy S tab? Like Android and Apple !?
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yahase said:
Hello everyone,
Is it possible to run dual OS on the galaxy S tab? Like Android and Apple !?
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Is that a serious question?
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Seems like a legitimate question to me, ViewSonic's ViewPad 10 already does Android-Windows dualbooting, and XDA itself has a thread about dualbooting the HD2 with WM and Android.
If the OP's asking about Android and iOS specifically though, then probably the answer might be no. If someone could do it though, it might actually be a good thing for the Android crowd: shows the Apple fans that choice and customizability is a good thing.

I was thinking the other day that my Tab would be pretty cool if running Windows Thin PC, saw info and a download on the MS site the other day while working on my wifes netbook.
I dont see a problem with either a full working version of Ubuntu or Windows on the GT and Android, or just the full OS. Seems reasonable to put an OS on what is essentially a tablet PC.
I would think its just a matter of a bios, and loading the OS, but I am not a programmer, so I could very well be wrong.
But....I'd load Windows or Ubuntu on the tab if it gave me the 3G ability as well as all other functions.

oldmacnut said:
I was thinking the other day that my Tab would be pretty cool if running Windows Thin PC, saw info and a download on the MS site the other day while working on my wifes netbook.
I dont see a problem with either a full working version of Ubuntu or Windows on the GT and Android, or just the full OS. Seems reasonable to put an OS on what is essentially a tablet PC.
I would think its just a matter of a bios, and loading the OS, but I am not a programmer, so I could very well be wrong.
But....I'd load Windows or Ubuntu on the tab if it gave me the 3G ability as well as all other functions.
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IIRC I think there's already a thread on XDA on bringing Ubuntu to the Tab. With Windows it might be trickier. The ViewSonic ViewPad 10 runs on Intel Atom, which is already used by other netbooks that run Windows. Windows might not be designed to run on ARM however, which is used on many Android devices. Processor design differences may be the key factor in porting the OS. (I've gotten Gingerbread to run on my Atom netbook though, alas I still couldn't get the touch screen to work)
Would be the first to jump onto dualbooting Android with Windows if it ever comes to fruition though; I'm a Windows developer and it'll be cool if I could write small apps and use them on my Tab.

oldmacnut said:
I dont see a problem with either a full working version of Ubuntu or Windows on the GT and Android, or just the full OS. Seems reasonable to put an OS on what is essentially a tablet PC.
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You can't run Windows because there is currently no ARM version, though MS say that they will support ARM in Windows 8, but by the time this sees the light of day, the Tab will be obsolete.
There is a thread in the dev forum about porting Ubuntu to the Tab, but I believe it is still a long way from fully functional.
Regards,
Dave

I already posted the question about fully functions in ubuntu for the tab. Specially the phone and sms functions but they denied it. I keep following and hope some day it will work
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Thanks for the responses guys. Let's hope one day it would be possible!
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since both iOS and Android are ARM based in most cases, you could probably make it happen.
Both Android and iOS are Unix based, so we could achieve this.
Also
It could be easier to port iOS than Honeycomb because iOS source code is avalaible for public, for improvements and bug seeking.
So, Yes, we could have dual OS on the tab, it could be windows, Ubuntu, Maemo, iOS and even Symbian

ellokomen said:
It could be easier to port iOS than Honeycomb because iOS source code is avalaible for public, for improvements and bug seeking.
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iOS source code is most certainly not available!
Regards,
Dave

Android ICS on personal computers? Sounds good!

I just had a random thought...ICS on personal computers! By that, I mean ICS running on our x86 desktops and laptops!
I tried Android X86 before. It was very fast, but running a phone O.S on a desktop just didn't feel right.
ICS seems as it may be very good for laptops and especially netbooks. Better speeds, better battery life, and greater security are just a few advanges over Windows.
Personally, I'd love to see ICS running on my MacBook. I believe it would both run and look amazing!
What are your thoughts about this? I for one see ICS running quite well on phones, tablets, and now personal computers!
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Now I can't see why i would want ICS on my desktop. I wouldn't be able to watch all my movies due to lack of codec support or software simply isn't polished enough. I wouldn't be able to code. I wouldn't be able to properly edit a document or start one. I could go on but you get the jist right? A computer is a computer, and for now ICS is a plaything. Until google thinks about entering the computer scene with android, it will be a plaything.

Mm I don't see ICS replacing my Mac or laptop , is way different, sure use a tablet as a full PC and trust me that ain't fun all the time, specially working a lot with spreadsheets, works become so much harder , ICS is meant to be a mobile OS
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what i always thought someone should do is release a PCI/PCIe card with a nice dual core ARM chip on it (tegra 2? IDK) and a few gigs of flash memory, to store android. boom. instant androi-based PC. more than enough for a lot of people.
I mean, it'd take a little work to come up with some universal drivers, but it couldn't be that hard, right?

I just wanted to throw in a little "update": Since Android 4 ICS will be open-source, the guys down at Android-X86 are sure to port it to X86, followed by a good community modding it.
I for one would love to have ICS running on my MacBook Pro, that is, while taking advantage of the Magic Multi-Touch trackpad. That would be epic.
Anyways, I hope to see ICS running well and looking great on all devices. Android 4 seems to be a very good operating system. I played with a Honeycomb tablet the other day and loved it; the UI was very nice and the menus were great. I can't wait to see a similar-looking O.S running on my blazin' Galaxy S II, and, hopefully my future Tegra 3-Powered tablet!

mtmerrick said:
what i always thought someone should do is release a PCI/PCIe card with a nice dual core ARM chip on it (tegra 2? IDK) and a few gigs of flash memory, to store android. boom. instant androi-based PC. more than enough for a lot of people.
I mean, it'd take a little work to come up with some universal drivers, but it couldn't be that hard, right?
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I'd say that it would be possible to develop a 13" laptop with a Dual-Core ARM chip, 1GB-2GB of RAM, and 4GB of flash (for Android) with a hard drive in UNDER $200. It would sell at $350 (if I were behind it).

I'm with Kailkti. I see no reason why I'd want Android on a PC. No reason whatsoever. None. The flexibility and feature set of Android and it's apps is just waaaay too far away from a full-fledged OS.
In fact, I'd go the other way around, the only situation I'd even consider a tablet is if I could run a traditional Linux distro on it. Which will never happen thanks to the closed nature of tablet hardware.
Keep mobile OSes as far away as possible from full-fledged computers, thank you.

Colton127 said:
I'd say that it would be possible to develop a 13" laptop with a Dual-Core ARM chip, 1GB-2GB of RAM, and 4GB of flash (for Android) with a hard drive in UNDER $200. It would sell at $350 (if I were behind it).
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I love that concept! i'd pay a lot for it if it had a touchscreen, no sure how interested i'd be if it didn't.

I think Android is fabulous, but there's enough lightweight Linux distros with much better support for x86 architecture and that aren't touchscreen centered that it's not likely the kind of market Android could gain ground on.
I also think both devices, a full fledged computer and a phone do go hand in hand for some people but are still vastly dissimilar in their usage.

mtmerrick said:
I love that concept! i'd pay a lot for it if it had a touchscreen, no sure how interested i'd be if it didn't.
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Honestly, I was thinking of no touchscreen (too expensive), but rather a large, Multi-Touch trackpad loaded with unique gestures and a good-sized keyboard.
You can always look at the ASUS Transformer, too.

Colton127 said:
Honestly, I was thinking of no touchscreen (too expensive), but rather a large, Multi-Touch trackpad loaded with unique gestures and a good-sized keyboard.
You can always look at the ASUS Transformer, too.
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reason i never went for the transformer was because as a standalone tablet its nothing special (a500 or others are much better value, isn't that good until you buy a $150 accessory, and then its only something unique used as a laptop - and i don't mind going on my laptop when i need to type something.
but if i can get a 15" touchscreen W8 laptop that i can dualboot W8ARM & ICS on, i'd LOVE that.

mtmerrick said:
but if i can get a 15" touchscreen W8 laptop that i can dualboot W8ARM & ICS on, i'd LOVE that.
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Never at a reasonable price. That's the big problem with touchscreens. Quality ones aren't cheap and cheap ones are of atrocious quality... A good OS with a crappy input method is no better than a crappy OS with a good input method. Either will make you rage because they won't behave as you wished.

mtmerrick said:
reason i never went for the transformer was because as a standalone tablet its nothing special (a500 or others are much better value, isn't that good until you buy a $150 accessory, and then its only something unique used as a laptop - and i don't mind going on my laptop when i need to type something.
but if i can get a 15" touchscreen W8 laptop that i can dualboot W8ARM & ICS on, i'd LOVE that.
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Honestly, I cannot think of a reason why you'd want a touchpad on a laptop. I'm using a MacBook Pro right now, and could not think of when I would EVER use a touchscreen, if the screen had one. The trackpad is much better, and the keyboard is just great.
Not to mention the arm strain you'd get from keeping your hand up to navigate.

Car Computer: Android or Windows 8?

So this summer I was going to build a carputer with a kit that I already have, similar to this :
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Seeing that the new windows 8 metro style UI looks to be very touch screen friendly. I just have to find a double DIN friendly touch screen. And the board that I got has 5 CH audio output that I would just run into a 4 channel amp for my speakers.
Then I started thinking that I like the android tablet idea because I am more familiar with it and I can BT from a tablet to my phone to use internet and GPS functions and that would be titties, only downfall was that I would only have 2CH of audio split into two to get my 4CH, that and every 7" tablet that fits a double DIN hole is pretty weak, but could work.
Then I found this effer:
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Seems to be everything I wanted, just not sure on sound quality or how well the systems integrations work... that and I get to do no customization and building myself.
I already have a double DIN touch screen dvd car stereo but it lacks navigation and Bluetooth capability.
Dunno whats better.

Probably Windows 8.

Android is just not an OS meant for something beyond phones, if you want something touch friendly on a larger scale, the tiny icons of ICS on a tab aren't it while driving. Windows 8 is info at a glance, just like windows phone. Given the option, I'd take the OS that seems to be suited for the job, GPS/BT link to your phone would still work given the right programs on win8

i think android

If it runs google music in terms of music, it would be good. Android can also offer FM radio if the device supports it, and I don't think Windows 8 does that
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Android. Simply because it is much more flexible than W8. IMHO.
So although the stock Android might not be as touch friendly, you can always make it touch friendly.

v0nHippie said:
Android. Simply because it is much more flexible than W8. IMHO.
So although the stock Android might not be as touch friendly, you can always make it touch friendly.
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but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.

z33dev33l said:
but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
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That's the thing. It won't. not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
Android it much more flexible, no matter what your marketing department has to say about it.

As long as its not the arm version of windows 8, which won't run older windows software, I think windows 8 is better choice. It will run lots of the very good pre existing windows software and be compatible with additional hardware you might want to add later such as wireless controls and screens etc.
Android is a good choice but for op's needs windows 8 is probably better.
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For the time being I would say android, mostly because Windows 8 is young and there aren't many (mature) apps you could use effectively for the purposes you want.
However, I believe a year (maybe a bit more) from now, Windows 8 tablets should be on par with android and when you think about all these Windows 8 non-tablet apps you could also run, Win8 will be the way to go.
TL;DR Android for a year, switch to Windows 8 later if you want comfort. Or just skip android and get Windows device.

v0nHippie said:
That's the thing. It won't. not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
Android it much more flexible, no matter what your marketing department has to say about it.
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I haven't had a bsod since vista, I don't think many have. Bringing up old issues to argue about a new OS is foolish. Here's some relevant android issues, lag, not touch friendly on a big screen, fragmentation, stability.

There will be more possibilities with Windows 8, but atm Windows 8 have to much bugs. For now better choice is android, for the future win8.

z33dev33l said:
but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
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The guy wants to put a tablet in his car...you think he is worried about customizing?? Please stop the madness. Even on the most beta of ROM's you have working GPS, music, games, and bluetooth. What more do you need? Also I don't know how much you follow Android, but there was just a HUGE breakthrough in per app DPI that would make customizing a tablet for a situation like this super easy.

Windows 8 would be more car friendly due to the massive buttons, but Android has less bugs, and Windows 8 isn't out yet. Android for now, Windows 8 when it's out for longer.

What makes you think android has less bugs? Really...

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What makes you think android has less bugs? Really...
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What makes you think android lags?
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VOT Productions said:
Windows 8 would be more car friendly due to the massive buttons, but Android has less bugs, and Windows 8 isn't out yet. Android for now, Windows 8 when it's out for longer.
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How do you know Andriod has "less bugs" when Windows 8 isn't even out yet?
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not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
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BSOD and license agreement prompts?! Are you using a pirated copy of Windows 98? I have Windows 7 64 bit and the ONLY time I ever saw a BSOD was with a new third party piece of hardware that had buggy firmware. Pulled that out of my case and never saw anything like that again.

Android, car mode, Done.
Windows 8 on a small board? Probably will have to be the RT version and it'll have to be pirated. Even then you don't know what all will work.
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z33dev33l said:
I haven't had a bsod since vista, I don't think many have. Bringing up old issues to argue about a new OS is foolish. Here's some relevant android issues, lag, not touch friendly on a big screen, fragmentation, stability.
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You always get a bee in your bonnet about android lagging but ignoring that, as you never listen to anyone who says otherwise, even if it were not touch friendly on a big screen just how big a screen do you expect it to be using in a car? It wouldn't be a problem even if it were true, though I would like to see sources backing up that claim of not being touch friendly.
Stability? Seriously? You do realise android phones can be left on indefinitely without becoming unstable so how can stability be an issue?
I actually agree windows makes more sense but I do think your mistaken in your view of android.
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If the Car-PC you are getting is x86... go for Windows 8
if it's an ARM based computer... go Android
Best keep it native right?

Bodhi Linux on the Nexus 7

Haven't seen much discussion on this so I thought I'd share.
http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2012/12/bodhi-armhf-alpha-for-nexus-7.html
Pretty cool stuff.
I've been using this distro for quite a while on my desktop and recently installed it on a netbook. On those platforms it flies.
I've been using linux for many years and this is my favorite so far. I have faith that it will work great on the Nexus 7.
The included video shows great promise, especially considering the developer has only had the Nexus for a very short time.
Anyhoo....just thought I'd share.

Looks awesome, will try when i will receive my N7 ,Thanks for sharing mate.

Bodhi is an excellent low-resource implementation of Linux -- I thought it was quite interesting when I gave it a whirl. Nice to see it here as well.

I hope this can be added to multirom soon
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I agree that I would really only use it with multi-rom. Shouldn't be too hard, if I understand it's just a small kernel mod

Looks pretty sweet.

I'm really excited about this actually.
There's alot of talk of the official Ubuntu for the nexus, however, the implementations I've seen thusfar have been pretty lackluster. I understand it's early in development and whatnot and it will surely improve.
Bodhi linux, however, already has a tablet ready interface.
I think the key thing to note is the DE, Enlightenment(E17). For speed, performance and bling, it's just pretty impressive.
Here is an early version of Bodhi running on a Dell hyrbrid tablet:
http://youtu.be/7qMTCXPybH4
Of course it's x86 architecture, but I think the implementation is still valid, as it shows what can be possible.
Also, Bodhi is based on Ubuntu, so it can share it's repositories as they grow.
I guess I'm somewhat of a Bodhi linux "fan boy" (sic) but I just actually stumbled across this video and wanted to share it.

That's cool I didn't know Enlightenment was that touch-friendly.
I'm really looking forward to trying Plasma Active on the Nexus 7 though.
It looks like the most promising touch UI for normal (non-Android) Linux so far
http://youtu.be/ulcizzAj-N4
Kubuntu plans to offer plasma-active images for Nexus 7 in 13.04
http://quintasan.blogspot.com/2012/11/post-uds-r-my-thoughts.html

Limvot said:
I agree that I would really only use it with multi-rom. Shouldn't be too hard, if I understand it's just a small kernel mod
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You can use it with multirom. You flash it like a normal ROM (NOT IN MULTIROM MENU, IT WILL NOT ERASE YOUR INTERNAL MAIN ROM, BUT WILL ADD IT TO MULTIROM BOOT MENU!) After you flash it the normal way, reboot, select bodhi, and enjoy the vast amounts of profit!

Jolla Sailfish for Galaxy S - Is it possible?

First of all, my apologies if this thread belongs to Q&A - I was not sure mods.
I read about Jolla Sailfish OS being open source. Is it possible to port it on Galaxy S? I have seen no discussion about it. Sailfish OS does look promising.
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DJ

I'm curious, what is the advantage of Jolla vs android?
For a short while I was excited to hear ubuntu was making its way to phones, then with a mix of going from ubuntu to arch on my desktop and the realization that ubuntu doesn't have much of an advantage over android anyway I kinda forgot about it...
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http://mer-project.blogspot.co.at/2013/04/wayland-utilizing-android-gpu-drivers.html?m=1
Sailfish uses mer as core of its system. I once read a blogpost...see above...that they try to make the display server wayland,the new xserver replacement compatible with android graphic drivers. I think it will be possible to get the rest of the drivers also somehow working....well i want sailfish too but atm i can only wait
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Hr Kristian said:
I'm curious, what is the advantage of Jolla vs android?
For a short while I was excited to hear ubuntu was making its way to phones, then with a mix of going from ubuntu to arch on my desktop and the realization that ubuntu doesn't have much of an advantage over android anyway I kinda forgot about it...
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android has the fragmentation and lagging problem after a certain usage. also the interface of jolla is really nice , why buying a Jolla if SGS still has some fight left in its big heart?? :victory::victory::victory:

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http://mer-project.blogspot.co.at/2013/04/wayland-utilizing-android-gpu-drivers.html?m=1
Sailfish uses mer as core of its system. I once read a blogpost...see above...that they try to make the display server wayland,the new xserver replacement compatible with android graphic drivers. I think it will be possible to get the rest of the drivers also somehow working....well i want sailfish too but atm i can only wait
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Aye Wayland is exciting, but what with all the snags it runs into (Ubuntu abandoning it, getting forked) the relatively small team will probably not complete it in a few years yet...
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Sailfish OS Now Supports Android Apps Officially
Maybe this will be an added incentive along with the refreshing UI.of Sailfish os.
Link : http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/09/sailfish-os-now-supports-android-apps-officially/?utm_source=mobile

I'd really like to have Jolla OS on our phone to try Now that its out ...

Crazy what all is possible ...:good:

YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64ja7WBHU8

Looks okay, but there's nothing really groundbreaking about it, or anything that's a real advantage over android considering the customisation you can do with android, or am I missing something?
I had a look at a couple of demo videos for it but I can't see any great things about it that would make me want to change OS. I've already got a hidden status bar(expanded desktop), on off toggles for things I like to be able to quickly switch(quick settings), and nice looking customised home screens.
Controlling apps from their multitasking thumbnails was the only real new thing I saw, and about the only use for that is pausing music or skipping tracks (which was obviously the way it was demonstrated in their videos, because it's pretty much the only use for such a feature). With any other app you need to be able to see what you're doing, so even that is a bit pointless.
Oh, and sailfish is a silly name.
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It`s not about customizations or having something special. It is new and hopefully wont start lagging after one week of heavy use
Proud owner of an ASUS TF300T stock and the "old faithful" SGS i9000 powered by AndroSlim

Anything new is welcome with an open heart. It's not about jumping ship to a new OS ... But trying them is what I am interested in the most.
I still want to user Ubuntu Touch on daily basis but it's the app ecosystem the issue for my daily use.

Is any here can port sailfish os for us
As using android on this device is very laggy even if u flash GB (2.3.x)
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