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I know people are going to hate,this but just wondering is it possible to make a iPhone Rom

Go buy a f***ing iPhone.

Ouch.
That's an interesting question, though. Mac O.S. is basically its own flavour of Unix. Because of this, it makes sense that Iphone O.S. is some derivative of Unix. Since Android is based on the Linux kernel and uses a sort of Linuxy userspace, it might be possible to reverse engineer Iphone O.S., or somehow get the source code (good luck doing this!), patch it and compile it for an A.R.M. prcessor and make a Nexus One boot into it.
I doubt that anyone will really bother, though; there is so much work involved, and you can already buy a Iphone.

It was a question to know if its capable I had a 3gs but I love me nexus and you don't have to be ****

Thank you keet that does sound like a lot but would be pretty cool

ttieder said:
Thank you keet that does sound like a lot but would be pretty cool
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Why would it be cool?

A couple reasons if you could use the iPhone app store that would be cool because let's face it the iPhone games and some apps are better and you can switch between the 2 best systems and I know if you have a Android phone you don't really like the iPhone a jailbroken iPhone is still a good phone but it needs to be jailbroken

*~* P-u-n-c-t-u-a-t-i-o-n *~*
My brain hurts now...
P.S. I very highly doubt you'd have access to the iPhone's app store, just because you've got a ROM. If this were possible, don't you think someone would have found a way to simple bring that over already!?!?

I just wondering if it was possible thats all

Sure, anything is possible. It essentially comes down to getting the OS to work with the hardware.
but would anyone do it? No

How about a windows 3.11 ROM while we're at it?

Really??????

I only want DOS on my phone. Can someone do this please?!!?!!

No way, let me install Win7 on my N1, please. I want to play Crysis on it.

grainysand said:
No way, let me install Win7 on my N1, please. I want to play Crysis on it.
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great one!

How did you find this place?

c'mon, plenty of people would be interested in trying an iPhone rom if it were available. however the difference in the chipsets means it probably won't be happening. especially now that Apple makes its own chips.

j.books said:
c'mon, plenty of people would be interested in trying an iPhone rom if it were available. however the difference in the chipsets means it probably won't be happening. especially now that Apple makes its own chips.
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The A4 is a custom implementation of the ARM A9 processor. Guess which other phone this can be found in...give up? This is also found in the nexus one (Snapdragon). The big difference here is the GPU which is mated with the A9 in apple’s design.
Currently, the iPad is the first (and only) product to employ the A4. So for now, porting a rom over wouldn't be limited by the fact it is written against the A4 (A9) but rather they are written against the ARM A8. Not knowing enough about porting I would have to defer to those with larger interest in such a matter but I would think barring any wonky crap apple decided to utilize, a port may not be as impossible as one may think once all of apple's mobile devices are running this new processor.
Having the ability to multi-boot a phone would be insane.
Nexus - custom boot loader (grub) that defaults to the phone's os - android
sd card - debian, winmo7, iphoneOS
Don't like it, don't use it. The ability to do it simply because you can? Sure why not.

McFroger3 said:
I only want DOS on my phone. Can someone do this please?!!?!!
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Dos games ftw!

liam.lah said:
Dos games ftw!
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screw all that nonsense. I just want my phone to have a blinking curser.

Any Laptop

Alright guys. I'm getting a new laptop for school next year, and I can get basically anything that I want. I don't really want a Mac, because quite honestly, I'd end up installing Windows on it and never using the iOS. So, what computer would you choose (laptop, anyone you want!). I've been looking at The Lenovo IdeaPad Y540 with the RapidDrive. Any suggestions?

toshiba satellite laptops are good. my sister has one. it's good, and not too expensive.

KHeeney5 said:
Alright guys. I'm getting a new laptop for school next year, and I can get basically anything that I want. I don't really want a Mac, because quite honestly, I'd end up installing Windows on it and never using the iOS. So, what computer would you choose (laptop, anyone you want!). I've been looking at The Lenovo IdeaPad Y540 with the RapidDrive. Any suggestions?
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Get one of thw intel i5 i3 and something else ones.
I have i5 and i3 blazing fast and HP!

KHeeney5 said:
Alright guys. I'm getting a new laptop for school next year, and I can get basically anything that I want. I don't really want a Mac, because quite honestly, I'd end up installing Windows on it and never using the iOS. So, what computer would you choose (laptop, anyone you want!). I've been looking at The Lenovo IdeaPad Y540 with the RapidDrive. Any suggestions?
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Go to the dell website and customize a laptop to whatever you want, you know, choose your own: processor, ram, hardrive space, graphics card etc.
I customized an inspiron 1525 a whil back and its running nicely

how about the best of both worlds , getting a macbook to show around and get the honeys in school , and having it dual boot windows at home to get some work done (when nobody sees you , ofc)

I use Lenovo Thinkpads normally. They are awesome. I really like their customer service. It's really IBM, but they are very patient and knowledgeable.

Well, you'd never use iOS on a Mac anyways, since iOS doesn't run on Macs (except in the emulator as part of the iOS SDK).
It is all about what you need. I'd get a Dell and run Ubuntu on it if I wasn't relying on certain Mac OS X software. Oh wait, I have a Dell running Ubuntu that I use a lot, in addition to my MacBook Pro.
The problem is you don't specify your needs at all, there is no best computer. I love my MacBook Pro and I love my Dell. And I'd happily recommend either of them to you, or several other machines - depending on your needs. So, what do you need?

I'd advise against getting a Dell Inspiron. There's a design flaw in the hinge where the case starts to spread apart; my girlfriend, mother, and roommate all have the problem and it started just after a year of owning their laptops. If you're already looking at Lenovo and you really can "get pretty much whatever you want" I'd suggest looking at a ThinkPad, the build quality is much better than the IdeaPads.

What are you exactly planning to do with the laptop?
You might need extra graphics muscle for vid editing our gaming.
Go for something with a sandy bridge. I'll be somewhat futureproof.
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souljaboy said:
how about the best of both worlds , getting a macbook to show around and get the honeys in school , and having it dual boot windows at home to get some work done (when nobody sees you , ofc)
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Seconded.
Or you can just boot Windows and say;
"I REALLY love the hardware, but Mac is sooooo last picosecond ago."
Otherwise, go for an ultraportable.

http://goo.gl/TDMgh
This one.

sakai4eva said:
Seconded.
Or you can just boot Windows and say;
"I REALLY love the hardware, but Mac is sooooo last picosecond ago."
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Have you ever actually USED OS X? Like I said, a computer is a tool. OS X provides the core foundation to do things Windows users can only dream of. Want me to blow your mind? I can show you videowall and blended projector setups running all in software (plus some Matrox TripleHead2Go's) doing things that required thousands of dollars worth of video processing hardware five years ago.
Granted, that's a rare application, but the same benefits apply to lower-level programs too. Mac OS has had true, full system-wide color management since the first OS X release. Windows? Their new, much-touted color management is about on the same level as Mac OS 9 was - 11 years ago.
Apple has done a great job providing creative professionals with an amazing platform. Sadly, it seems like they're abandoning us in favor of the content consumers and iOS. We shall see. But for right now, it's the best thing out there for the needs of many creative professionals.

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Have you ever actually USED OS X? Like I said, a computer is a tool. OS X provides the core foundation to do things Windows users can only dream of. Want me to blow your mind? I can show you videowall and blended projector setups running all in software (plus some Matrox TripleHead2Go's) doing things that required thousands of dollars worth of video processing hardware five years ago.
Granted, that's a rare application, but the same benefits apply to lower-level programs too. Mac OS has had true, full system-wide color management since the first OS X release. Windows? Their new, much-touted color management is about on the same level as Mac OS 9 was - 11 years ago.
Apple has done a great job providing creative professionals with an amazing platform. Sadly, it seems like they're abandoning us in favor of the content consumers and iOS. We shall see. But for right now, it's the best thing out there for the needs of many creative professionals.
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Have you ever actually USED Windows 7? Like I said, a computer is a tool. Windows 7 provides the core foundation to do things Mac users can only dream of. Want me to blow your mind? I can show you 16xAA and 4xAF graphics on SIX monitors (plus some sick DirectX 11 tessellation) doing things that required thousands of dollars worth of Mac hardware five months ago.
Granted, that's a common application, but the same benefits apply to lower-level programs too. Windows 7 has true 3d games since its release. Mac? Their new, much-touted app store is probably 4 to 5 years behind.
Microsoft/AMD/ATI/NVidia/Intel has done a great job providing gamers with an amazing platform. Sadly, it seems like they're abandoning us in favor of the content consumers and consoles. We shall see. But for right now, it's the best thing out there for the needs of many gamers.
FTFY.

Um, not sure if it was your intent, but you only proved my point. Different uses need different tools. We've got Windows 7 sitting and running up at the church on two machines that have replaced our sound boards (both front of house and monitor mix) and much of our effects and processing gear. Software Audio Console by RML Labs. Great product, and runs fantastically well on Windows 7. The developer is a bit of a nut, and he himself is always complaining about what Microsoft does poorly in Windows (especially in regards to memory management, which he notes is tuned more towards most processing power, not lowest latency like one desires in a live audio application). Regardless, he's managed to get Windows down to a few milliseconds of latency, and he has the whole setup working very, very well.
So, you proved my point. Windows 7 is a great gaming OS. I never said it wasn't There's a lot more to this world than games, but if games are what you want, the Windows 7 is where it's at - though OS X is catching up. It's definitely had "true 3D" since release. Right now the two big issues are drivers that aren't really tweak-able - and tuned more towards rendering accuracy than performance; and the actual support of developers (though both have improved a lot in the last year).

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Um, not sure if it was your intent, but you only proved my point. Different uses need different tools. We've got Windows 7 sitting and running up at the church on two machines that have replaced our sound boards (both front of house and monitor mix) and much of our effects and processing gear. Software Audio Console by RML Labs. Great product, and runs fantastically well on Windows 7. The developer is a bit of a nut, and he himself is always complaining about what Microsoft does poorly in Windows (especially in regards to memory management, which he notes is tuned more towards most processing power, not lowest latency like one desires in a live audio application). Regardless, he's managed to get Windows down to a few milliseconds of latency, and he has the whole setup working very, very well.
So, you proved my point. Windows 7 is a great gaming OS. I never said it wasn't There's a lot more to this world than games, but if games are what you want, the Windows 7 is where it's at - though OS X is catching up. It's definitely had "true 3D" since release. Right now the two big issues are drivers that aren't really tweak-able - and tuned more towards rendering accuracy than performance; and the actual support of developers (though both have improved a lot in the last year).
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I'm just trying to say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Whatever platform that you use, as long as you are happy with it. I will not begrudge you if you decide to buy a Mac for legitimate reasons (graphics editing, etc.), but a Windows PC for me is a much better deal. Maybe its because I've grown up around Windows, so I'll never get the "need" for an overpriced and underspec'd computer.
And, yes, my PC is kinda heavily modified
Glad we could find a middle ground

Get a Macbook Pro, At least you wouldn't be getting those annoying updates and useless Norton Anti-virus notification. I been a pc user for more than 10 years and Os X is really not bad like people make it out to be.

sakai4eva said:
I'm just trying to say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Whatever platform that you use, as long as you are happy with it. I will not begrudge you if you decide to buy a Mac for legitimate reasons (graphics editing, etc.), but a Windows PC for me is a much better deal. Maybe its because I've grown up around Windows, so I'll never get the "need" for an overpriced and underspec'd computer.
And, yes, my PC is kinda heavily modified
Glad we could find a middle ground
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I think if you'd shop it, you'd find Macs aren't bad for what you're getting, price wise. There are things that have value people don't mention. Things like the glass screen on laptops (hard to damage and easy to clean - sadly, also REALLY bad glare) and the large full-multitouch glass trackpad... it's a joy to use, easy and fast.
As for the desktops, Mac Pros are crazy pricey at first glance. But when you look closer, they're using server (Xeon) processors and server-grade components. Which makes almost no difference in performance, but it does legitimately add a fortune to the cost. Apple needs a true desktop machine. But if you compare it to other machines using the same components, pricing is similar or better.
The big thing is that Apple has no low-end, cheap-built, high-performance machines. Their machines are all made THEIR WAY. No choices. 1984 style, even. I do not like that, but when looked at in the broader market, it's not so bad - Macs are one of many choices to find the best tool for each job. Windows is also one of many choices. I spend much of my time on a Dell in Linux
BTW, I wasn't even talking graphics editing. Though the color management engine makes Macs great for that. Next time you go to a concert and see walls of video screens behind the stage and stuff like that, and you assume there's a ton of fancy video gear, there might not be. The software exists, on Mac OS X, to do that all in software today. And the software exists, on Windows, to mix sound all in software, today. And the results, in both cases, are as good as traditional hardware solutions.

Sorry I have't posted back guys. But I ended up ordering:
Toshiba Portege r700
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel i7 @ 2.67 GHz
4 GB DDR2
120 GB SSD
Fingerprint Scanner
HDMI Out
13.3 inch widescreen
The SSD and DDR2 was important to me since I will be a computer engineering student. I love it. Fast, extremely thin (for all the guts) and just as light as my girlfriends MB Air.
Thanks for your help.
Sent from my DROIDX

Sounds like a nice machine, but I question why you wanted DDR2, and not DDR3. I'm just a noob though.

ASUS G51J works GREAT for gaming and school

New Nokia N9 with Meego

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/20/nokias-n9-official-a-plastic-slab-of-meego-coming-later-this-y/
Man this is sexy
I want Meego on my SGS II

Damn! This is what Android interface should have been. I don't want no stinking buttons on my device. I want a phone with a giant screen and nothing else. I don't want no soft buttons like Honeycomb either. I want a fully gesture driven interface.

Yup Android should be like this

its a bit " big" dont ya think?plus only 1gz processor cant see it being to swift!

nokia will make a hash of it like they do with every operating system and spend years sending out firmware updates to resolve it ....

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Yup Android should be like this
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Was the market ready for a completely button free device 4 years ago? (Or whenever the first android device came out)

Well I came from an N900 and I must same Maemo/Meego is a complete OS. It just lacks apps.
That said, Nokia has killed Meego so I wonder how much support will they give this. Hence the reason why I jumped to Android.

The hardware design looks very impressive (imo). I like the look and "feel" of the phone. Even through the battery is just 1450mAh, we know Nokia handsets are good in actual battery performance. N8 has 1200mAh, if I recall correctly.
I am worried about the CPU/GPU. CPU seems to be rather dated Cortex A8. I am not sure how much heavy-duty apps can it sustain. But I guess for most folks that won't matter if the operation is fluid. Ironically I believe this is the 1st 1GHz phone from Nokia. GPU is my main concern. It's SGX530, which I guess is less powerful than iphone 3gs.

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The hardware design looks very impressive (imo). I like the look and "feel" of the phone. Even through the battery is just 1450mAh, we know Nokia handsets are good in actual battery performance. N8 has 1200mAh, if I recall correctly.
I am worried about the CPU/GPU. CPU seems to be rather dated Cortex A8. I am not sure how much heavy-duty apps can it sustain. But I guess for most folks that won't matter if the operation is fluid. Ironically I believe this is the 1st 1GHz phone from Nokia. GPU is my main concern. It's SGX530, which I guess is less powerful than iphone 3gs.
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Both iPhone 4 and 3gs got the SGX530 as the GPU.. so it is not that slow..
and after all the specs are not all, because the iphone with the "old" 1GHZ and SGX530, can run games that android need tegra 2 to run smooth..

Android OS itself is a resource hog hence the reason for that. Meego is Linux so it has better resource management

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Both iPhone 4 and 3gs got the SGX530 as the GPU.. so it is not that slow..
and after all the specs are not all, because the iphone with the "old" 1GHZ and SGX530, can run games that android need tegra 2 to run smooth..
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I thought they had SGX 535.

why is this posted in the SG2 section

Harvin Dhillon said:
Android OS itself is a resource hog hence the reason for that. Meego is Linux so it has better resource management
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Android is Linux too...

qwerty warrior said:
why is this posted in the SG2 section
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+1 it's getting out of hand. You know what? Let's start a new thread about what's the weather like in your hometown!

the UI seems marvin gaye smooth and really intuitive hopefully a fully working version can be ported to the s2

I think it's good that Nokia FINALLY released a phone with up-to-date specs...but they release it with a dying OS!!
IMO, I find MeeGo a bit too simple. App drawer...social feed...multi tasking.
I'd just find that a bit boring, but that's probably just me. Of course on Android, we technically only have home screen and app drawer (and lock screen) but ON the home screen you can do so much. Apps, widgets, the layouts of them. The scrolling wallpapers etc.
But one thing I do like is the multi-tasking. That page is pretty damn good.
Although the frame rates look pretty slow (however that could just be the pre-release build)

Phone History:
N97 > SGS > SGS 2
I dont think that any attemps of nokia to get back the worlds best mobile manufacture will result in success. The N97 was quiet a good mobile, but after changing to my first android device (sgs) i have got just 2 words for nokia: never ever.

Great looking hardware, but if you watch one of the videos on youtube that shows a hands-on with it the interface is quite stuttery and slow. =(
I've also gotten used to using widgets instead of constantly jumping in and out of apps, so I don't think Meego is for me.
My own preference list (does not count app selection; interface only):
1) Android - I love customisation and widgets
2) WebOS - Love the 'cards' style and visual appeal
3) Windows Phone 7 - Minimalism done right, very smooth and attractive
4) iOS - Attractive and smooth, but starting to age a bit
5) Meego - Very simple and quick, but heavily app-reliant for everything
6) Windows Mobile 6.5 - Obviously not great, but customisable
7) Symbian - Tried a Nokia smartphone, but isn't intuitive and not fluid or 'pleasant'

Harvin Dhillon said:
Well I came from an N900 and I must same Maemo/Meego is a complete OS. It just lacks apps.
That said, Nokia has killed Meego so I wonder how much support will they give this. Hence the reason why I jumped to Android.
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Right there with you. I loved my N900 (still do really) but Nokia have systematically managed screw things up. Maemo has had features that android is still TRYING to achieve for a long time now. Getting used to a back button was a real challenge after coming from the intuitive GUI that was on the N900.
That being said the N9 looks amazing (if a little light in the camera spec department). The problem here will not be the hardware, nor the OS. It will be Nokia management and its seemingly constant quest to destroy what once was an innovative and great company

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A mistake many make. Sure it is linux based but it is not a linux distribution. It is just a virtual machine running on a linux kernel.
Meego is an official Linux distribution
Bratag said:
Right there with you. I loved my N900 (still do really) but Nokia have systematically managed screw things up. Maemo has had features that android is still TRYING to achieve for a long time now. Getting used to a back button was a real challenge after coming from the intuitive GUI that was on the N900.
That being said the N9 looks amazing (if a little light in the camera spec department). The problem here will not be the hardware, nor the OS. It will be Nokia management and its seemingly constant quest to destroy what once was an innovative and great company
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Had the same issue coming from Maemo, didnt understand the back button cause it didnt make sense. Half the time I didnt know if the application was running or if it was closed. No such issues with Maemo, it was a desktop OS in your hands and perfect for the touch screen.
Nokia just made a epic blunder, if they kept pushing meego and put it on all their phones instead of that dumb-ed down Windows OS7, they might have a good chance.
Apps is a issue on Meego yes but it is a linux distro based on rpm so all it needs is a customised UI and the app can be ported, that is where QT was suppose to come in. Well let's see how it goes. I dont think it will work though considering everyone is jumping ship from Nokia, me included.

[Q] ICS 4.0 for Nexus One

Hi,
When do you think we can get ICS 4.0 for Nexus one or there is not chance ever? Thanks in Advance.

We already have two ICS ROMs.

look in the dev section

We will never see an official ICS ROM from Google, but devs have been hard at work, and as both above me said, we have two ICS-based ROMs in the development section of the forum.

bassmadrigal said:
We will never see an official ICS ROM from Google, but devs have been hard at work, and as both above me said, we have two ICS-based ROMs in the development section of the forum.
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This. Google has labeled the Nexus One dead less than two years after release. Pretty neat, huh? Glad you forked over all of that money for a Google supported Nexus device now?
Not that I'm bitter...

GldRush98 said:
This. Google has labeled the Nexus One dead less than two years after release. Pretty neat, huh? Glad you forked over all of that money for a Google supported Nexus device now?
Not that I'm bitter...
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I kinda am. I mean, not even two years has passed since the release of it and they're already officially claiming it dead?
Bull, wait for it, ****.
By th way, GldRush98, what is stock 2.3.6 like on the Nexus? I cannot be arsed to try it out.

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This. Google has labeled the Nexus One dead less than two years after release. Pretty neat, huh? Glad you forked over all of that money for a Google supported Nexus device now?
Not that I'm bitter...
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On ROM space alone it was already assumed the device would be unsupported. But hey, it lasted twice as long as my G1...

I'm already using ICS rom as daily driver on my N1 (no regrets but for camera). Ref: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366897

GldRush98 said:
This. Google has labeled the Nexus One dead less than two years after release. Pretty neat, huh? Glad you forked over all of that money for a Google supported Nexus device now?
Not that I'm bitter...
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With the how fast paced the phones are changing, it really doesn't surprise me that it had a less than 2 year supported life. Look at when the G1 first came out in October of 2008. It had a 528MHz processor with 192MB of RAM and 256MB for the ROM. Then, in just over 14 months, we had the Nexus One which pretty much doubled all the specs there. 1GHz process, 512MB RAM, 512MB ROM, double the screen resolution... Dual cores showed up 1 year later with even larger screen resolutions. And quad cores in phones are just around the corner. The software needs to be rewritten to utilize the extra speed and/or features the new hardware provides, otherwise you are paying for all these extra cores or memory that you will never use.
How long did it take for these jumps in the PC world? 500MHz processor? 1998. 1GHZ? 2000. Dual Core? 2005. Quad? 2007. Phone technology is moving much faster than desktop computers ever did. Plenty of people were pissed when they found out their hardware that was good with Windows 98 didn't work with Windows XP. Same thing happened when Windows Vista and 7 were introduced, and I am sure the same thing will happen when Windows 8 is released. In the equivalent of the PC world, we are trying to take hardware that was released when Windows XP came out and trying to get Windows 7 or 8 to work on it. That is not the easiest thing to do, and even if you pull it off, is it going to have all the same functionality that would be available on a modern machine?
And since it seems that this will mostly come down to space requirements, could you imagine if your Windows 7 install was the same size as Windows XP? When XP was released, 20GB drives were still the norm. Now you install Windows 7 and a modern game, and nearly 20GBs is used. As you upgrade software, you eventually need to upgrade hardware. There is no way around this.
The point is... We had a good run with our devices and they got numerous official upgrades including and spanned across 3 major software versions. I applaud Google for actually supporting their devices much better than any other manufacturer out there.
And now that the official Google updates have sailed away, it is time to turn our phones completely to the dev community. TexasIce and samuaz have done an awesome job trying to get ICS working on our beloved N1. There are only a few things missing for it to be considered a fully working ROM.

bassmadrigal said:
With the how fast paced the phones are changing, it really doesn't surprise me that it had a less than 2 year supported life. Look at when the G1 first came out in October of 2008. It had a 528MHz processor with 192MB of RAM and 256MB for the ROM. Then, in just over 14 months, we had the Nexus One which pretty much doubled all the specs there. 1GHz process, 512MB RAM, 512MB ROM, double the screen resolution... Dual cores showed up 1 year later with even larger screen resolutions. And quad cores in phones are just around the corner. The software needs to be rewritten to utilize the extra speed and/or features the new hardware provides, otherwise you are paying for all these extra cores or memory that you will never use.
How long did it take for these jumps in the PC world? 500MHz processor? 1998. 1GHZ? 2000. Dual Core? 2005. Quad? 2007. Phone technology is moving much faster than desktop computers ever did. Plenty of people were pissed when they found out their hardware that was good with Windows 98 didn't work with Windows XP. Same thing happened when Windows Vista and 7 were introduced, and I am sure the same thing will happen when Windows 8 is released. In the equivalent of the PC world, we are trying to take hardware that was released when Windows XP came out and trying to get Windows 7 or 8 to work on it. That is not the easiest thing to do, and even if you pull it off, is it going to have all the same functionality that would be available on a modern machine?
And since it seems that this will mostly come down to space requirements, could you imagine if your Windows 7 install was the same size as Windows XP? When XP was released, 20GB drives were still the norm. Now you install Windows 7 and a modern game, and nearly 20GBs is used. As you upgrade software, you eventually need to upgrade hardware. There is no way around this.
The point is... We had a good run with our devices and they got numerous official upgrades including and spanned across 3 major software versions. I applaud Google for actually supporting their devices much better than any other manufacturer out there.
And now that the official Google updates have sailed away, it is time to turn our phones completely to the dev community. TexasIce and samuaz have done an awesome job trying to get ICS working on our beloved N1. There are only a few things missing for it to be considered a fully working ROM.
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Technology always change, but we all loved linux in all this era, for it could still support old/lower end machines without problems.
Since, Android is built on top of linux , in my opinion it is fair to expect a "better" deal.

anubhav77 said:
Technology always change, but we all loved linux in all this era, for it could still support old/lower end machines without problems.
Since, Android is built on top of linux , in my opinion it is fair to expect a "better" deal.
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But hardware can be just as incapable as running the "latest and greatest" in the Linux world. My laptop was only 2 years old when compiz came out and I was never able to run it. Nor any of the advanced graphic features KDE 4 offers. But, you take that now almost 8 year old notebook, and it can still run the latest Linux version out there (I use Slackware and am running 13.37), but I am not able to use all the eye-candy that is available to it.
In fact, I don't really use it for much any more. It struggles playing youtube at resolutions above 360p (and can't do it full screen). And with all the AJAX heavy websites out there, it takes a toll on the system when you have a few tabs open. Essentially, I have turned it into a dev notebook. It is where I do all my web development.
The reality is that Linux will work on most systems, but it may be an extremely stripped and limited version of Linux. Google didn't want to put out a crap version that have people complaining that it can't do something that was advertised with ICS. Also, putting ICS on our phones requires repartitioning the internal memory. I doubt that is something that Google can do with an OTA update. Plus, we have yet to see if they can pull off full hardware acceleration (it has been done with hacks so far, but from my understanding, leads to a larger battery drain). And we have yet to make the camera work.
It would've been nice had Google pulled out their magic fortune-telling ball and given us extra internal memory or a better graphics card. But reading the future is not an easy thing to do. Just like you buying the phone. You bought the phone with the hardware that was in it. It was awesome at the time and seemed to have adequate space, but then google upped the limit of apks to 49MB and apps kept getting bigger and bigger. Suddenly, you were pretty much required to use app2sdext to be able to use all the apps you wanted.
There was no guarantee on how long our phones would get updates, but they have covered three major versions of Android and a ton of minor versions. As far as support goes (especially when you look at the other manufacturers out there), I feel we have nothing to complain about.
Now we leave it in hands like texasice and samuaz so use true geeks can figure out how far we can push this hardware until it becomes so slow and incapable to do standard things... just as my laptop. And that is how you know you have truly used the product to the extent of its useful life

Car Computer: Android or Windows 8?

So this summer I was going to build a carputer with a kit that I already have, similar to this :
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Seeing that the new windows 8 metro style UI looks to be very touch screen friendly. I just have to find a double DIN friendly touch screen. And the board that I got has 5 CH audio output that I would just run into a 4 channel amp for my speakers.
Then I started thinking that I like the android tablet idea because I am more familiar with it and I can BT from a tablet to my phone to use internet and GPS functions and that would be titties, only downfall was that I would only have 2CH of audio split into two to get my 4CH, that and every 7" tablet that fits a double DIN hole is pretty weak, but could work.
Then I found this effer:
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Seems to be everything I wanted, just not sure on sound quality or how well the systems integrations work... that and I get to do no customization and building myself.
I already have a double DIN touch screen dvd car stereo but it lacks navigation and Bluetooth capability.
Dunno whats better.

Probably Windows 8.

Android is just not an OS meant for something beyond phones, if you want something touch friendly on a larger scale, the tiny icons of ICS on a tab aren't it while driving. Windows 8 is info at a glance, just like windows phone. Given the option, I'd take the OS that seems to be suited for the job, GPS/BT link to your phone would still work given the right programs on win8

i think android

If it runs google music in terms of music, it would be good. Android can also offer FM radio if the device supports it, and I don't think Windows 8 does that
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Android. Simply because it is much more flexible than W8. IMHO.
So although the stock Android might not be as touch friendly, you can always make it touch friendly.

v0nHippie said:
Android. Simply because it is much more flexible than W8. IMHO.
So although the stock Android might not be as touch friendly, you can always make it touch friendly.
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but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.

z33dev33l said:
but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
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That's the thing. It won't. not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
Android it much more flexible, no matter what your marketing department has to say about it.

As long as its not the arm version of windows 8, which won't run older windows software, I think windows 8 is better choice. It will run lots of the very good pre existing windows software and be compatible with additional hardware you might want to add later such as wireless controls and screens etc.
Android is a good choice but for op's needs windows 8 is probably better.
Dave
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For the time being I would say android, mostly because Windows 8 is young and there aren't many (mature) apps you could use effectively for the purposes you want.
However, I believe a year (maybe a bit more) from now, Windows 8 tablets should be on par with android and when you think about all these Windows 8 non-tablet apps you could also run, Win8 will be the way to go.
TL;DR Android for a year, switch to Windows 8 later if you want comfort. Or just skip android and get Windows device.

v0nHippie said:
That's the thing. It won't. not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
Android it much more flexible, no matter what your marketing department has to say about it.
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I haven't had a bsod since vista, I don't think many have. Bringing up old issues to argue about a new OS is foolish. Here's some relevant android issues, lag, not touch friendly on a big screen, fragmentation, stability.

There will be more possibilities with Windows 8, but atm Windows 8 have to much bugs. For now better choice is android, for the future win8.

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but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
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The guy wants to put a tablet in his car...you think he is worried about customizing?? Please stop the madness. Even on the most beta of ROM's you have working GPS, music, games, and bluetooth. What more do you need? Also I don't know how much you follow Android, but there was just a HUGE breakthrough in per app DPI that would make customizing a tablet for a situation like this super easy.

Windows 8 would be more car friendly due to the massive buttons, but Android has less bugs, and Windows 8 isn't out yet. Android for now, Windows 8 when it's out for longer.

What makes you think android has less bugs? Really...

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What makes you think android has less bugs? Really...
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What makes you think android lags?
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VOT Productions said:
Windows 8 would be more car friendly due to the massive buttons, but Android has less bugs, and Windows 8 isn't out yet. Android for now, Windows 8 when it's out for longer.
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How do you know Andriod has "less bugs" when Windows 8 isn't even out yet?
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not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
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BSOD and license agreement prompts?! Are you using a pirated copy of Windows 98? I have Windows 7 64 bit and the ONLY time I ever saw a BSOD was with a new third party piece of hardware that had buggy firmware. Pulled that out of my case and never saw anything like that again.

Android, car mode, Done.
Windows 8 on a small board? Probably will have to be the RT version and it'll have to be pirated. Even then you don't know what all will work.
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z33dev33l said:
I haven't had a bsod since vista, I don't think many have. Bringing up old issues to argue about a new OS is foolish. Here's some relevant android issues, lag, not touch friendly on a big screen, fragmentation, stability.
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You always get a bee in your bonnet about android lagging but ignoring that, as you never listen to anyone who says otherwise, even if it were not touch friendly on a big screen just how big a screen do you expect it to be using in a car? It wouldn't be a problem even if it were true, though I would like to see sources backing up that claim of not being touch friendly.
Stability? Seriously? You do realise android phones can be left on indefinitely without becoming unstable so how can stability be an issue?
I actually agree windows makes more sense but I do think your mistaken in your view of android.
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If the Car-PC you are getting is x86... go for Windows 8
if it's an ARM based computer... go Android
Best keep it native right?