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Why all the Android buzz?

Why is porting Android to the Kaiser such a hot topic in the Kaiser forums?
I've tried the various versions on my Kaiser and also a G1 and I gotta say... I just don't get the hype. When compared to Windows Mobile, Android is very limiting. Even though it's not so proprietary as, say, one of the older Samsung phones or an iPhone... it still limits what you can do with your phone. It's like Android's way or the highway. Windows Mobile allows for so much customization and is so much better than both iPhone and Android OS's.
Do others feel much differently than I do? I just want to know why I'm missing the mark with all the Android hype.

I can see your point, winmo does require less 3rd party apps, more video formats , more apps, more features ect. Winmo wasnt built for phones in-mind, it's based off Windows CE, which has been running on embedded systems for along time using the ARM cpu. Probably the reason why it acts like more of a small computer. Certainly Android looks much better graphically than windows and the interface is a much easier and faster to navigate. The UI can be better suited for the screen size and for touch input. Customization wise, Winmo and Android are pretty close, but I'd give it to Android. Though, it's harder to customize android than it is to windows. Open gl 1.1 works in Android for kaiser, and has no drivers for the gpu in winmo.So it's basically what you want in a phone..a pocket pc, Or Modern Smart Phone..I want the Modern Smart phone until WinMo7 combines the 2.

ajclai08 said:
I can see your point, winmo does require less 3rd party apps, more video formats , more apps, more features ect. Winmo wasnt built for phones in-mind, it's based off Windows CE, which has been running on embedded systems for along time using the ARM cpu. Probably the reason why it acts like more of a small computer. Certainly Android looks much better graphically than windows and the interface is a much easier and faster to navigate. The UI can be better suited for the screen size and for touch input. Customization wise, Winmo and Android are pretty close, but I'd give it to Android. Though, it's harder to customize android than it is to windows. Open gl 1.1 works in Android for kaiser, and has no drivers for the gpu in winmo.So it's basically what you want in a phone..a pocket pc, Or Modern Smart Phone..I want the Modern Smart phone until WinMo7 combines the 2.
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I suppose you're right about winno as a "mini pc" versus android as a "modern smart phone". I'm kind of a techie, which is probably why I like winmo better than Android. I guess I'm just a die-hard Microsoft fan.

i just hate the fact that people tend to eat from a ball nd then spit into it! to me MS is the mother of modern life. look at their OS in comparison to the rest! i believe that they managed to bring windows with all its great UI, add ons, customization to mobile
phones. people r just too ignorant to know which mobile OS is best. but techies know which system to use! dont let the masses rule. leave it to the experts! way to go democracy!

thesecondsfade said:
Why is porting Android to the Kaiser such a hot topic in the Kaiser forums?
I've tried the various versions on my Kaiser and also a G1 and I gotta say... I just don't get the hype. When compared to Windows Mobile, Android is very limiting. Even though it's not so proprietary as, say, one of the older Samsung phones or an iPhone... it still limits what you can do with your phone. It's like Android's way or the highway. Windows Mobile allows for so much customization and is so much better than both iPhone and Android OS's.
Do others feel much differently than I do? I just want to know why I'm missing the mark with all the Android hype.
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I agree. also what is with the media saying "windows mobile is so far behind that is will never catch up" the media is slanted.

Symbian on Rhodium

So we've seen the projects to create a ROM for Android on the Rhodium... Well now that the Symbian Foundation has released their open source code I think our handy dandy developers have an even greater challenge on their hands!
Who else is interested?
For those of you interested I've included information on the source code from Symbian.org:
developer. symbian. org/wiki/index.php?title= Categorylatform_Opening&action=edit
Hey fellow XDA-ers. I thank you for your thoughts thus far. Android is only a part of the next wave in Mobile Computing. Honestly I've found the MyTouch I owned from T-Mo too be toooooo slow and toooooo consumerish. I like a phone that has both lifestyle and professional all in its mix. This makes me a big fan of WinMo and Symbian. Seeing that Windows Mobile and Symbians *NEW* operating system both run C++ and .NET it may be much easier, practical and cooler than we think.

Yea...
Theoretically it should be a pretty fast and stable alternative. It would be dope, but there wouldhave to be some major UI changes for me to try it out....but maybe I'm unsure on how far Symbian has come...

I personally don't see the need for another proprietary operating system with its origins 20+ years old, windows mobile is enough of that for me.
Android was developed from the ground up with modern mobile devices in mind and in my opinion anyways is the most promising mobile os on the market right now.

Gootah said:
Theoretically it should be a pretty fast and stable alternative. It would be dope, but there wouldhave to be some major UI changes for me to try it out....but maybe I'm unsure on how far Symbian has come...
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UI changes in Symbian??? Sense/TF3D makes Symbian look like a Palm M500 I'd rather any developers with free time spend it on Android.

totalperception said:
So we've seen the projects to create a ROM for Android on the Rhodium... Well now that the Symbian Foundation has released their open source code I think our handy dandy developers have an even greater challenge on their hands!
Who else is interested?
For those of you interested I've included information on the source code from Symbian.org:
developer. symbian. org/wiki/index.php?title= Categorylatform_Opening&action=edit
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No need for that man. Even though Symbian has the highest exposure worldwide Android is the next wave, plus Nokia has Maemo to push as it is. Dual OS is more than enough for HTC user, such as myself. Just imagine triple boot Gen.Y where are you? LOL

just buy yourself a damn nokia ...

Android is crap i had a few device, and simbian is just fallin in darkness...

why would you want symbian? i could see android and iphone os for the apps and winmo for the customization and community support, even palm and webos... for reasons. but symbian isnt pretty, or userfriendly, customizable, or have alot of apps. its a slightly uglier version of blackberrys os. besides does it even support wvga resolutions? i think the only other os to do that is android.

... what a weird discussion, I do understand to have Symbian a lot more than Android here are my point against android:
- everybody says it is open source, the core is but nothing else that is why there are so few aternative ROMS
- No real GPS software, dont even star to compare with solutions available on Symbian or WM
- No tethering without hack!!!!! I am dreaming here, I was about to by the Moto-Droid, when I saw that I went back to my good TP2
- Google is as close as Apple when it come to app available on its store.
a nice GUI is NOT all, and software and functions make the difference, people can complain as much as they want about the "old" WM is it so far the OS which give the more flexibility and Symbian cones just behind, use a N97 and you'll see how smooth it is.
Now this will probably lead to a troll discussion but for me trying to adapt Android to some other device or symbian is perfect for fan who want to play but not for "production" phone, and for that I clearly keep WM so far. waiting for WM7
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OP: Have you ever even used Symbian? I have, and I have to say it's the most god awful mobile OS I've ever used. I returned the Nokia I bought within a week because Symbian was truly terrible. I can't honestly imagine why anyone would want to run Symbian, by choice, when you have other options like Android, Maemo/Mer, Windows Mobile, or anything other than Symbian. I wouldn't ever want the capable developers who could port Symbian actually waste their time on such a terrible OS. Porting Symbian to the Pro2 would be a downgrade; it would be like trading in a premium, business class smartphone for a $10 feature phone. IMO, not worth it. [/my 2 cents]

CarpeNoctem said:
... what a weird discussion, I do understand to have Symbian a lot more than Android here are my point against android:
- everybody says it is open source, the core is but nothing else that is why there are so few aternative ROMS
- No real GPS software, dont even star to compare with solutions available on Symbian or WM
- No tethering without hack!!!!! I am dreaming here, I was about to by the Moto-Droid, when I saw that I went back to my good TP2
- Google is as close as Apple when it come to app available on its store.
a nice GUI is NOT all, and software and functions make the difference, people can complain as much as they want about the "old" WM is it so far the OS which give the more flexibility and Symbian cones just behind, use a N97 and you'll see how smooth it is.
Now this will probably lead to a troll discussion but for me trying to adapt Android to some other device or symbian is perfect for fan who want to play but not for "production" phone, and for that I clearly keep WM so far. waiting for WM7
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i've used the N97 before. in fact, I came to the TP2 from an N97. symbian is, IMO, one of the most brilliantly designed mobile OSes in existence but it's implementation on the N97 was flawed, to put it mildly. don't get me wrong--I love Symbian and the N97 but there was too much wrong for me to overlook. For one, the v. 12 firmware(and, to a lesser extent, the v. 20 firmware) was too buggy for me and the N97 was all but smooth even with theme effects turned off. This may have been remedied with more RAM and a MUCH faster CPU(OMAP 3, anyone?). For what was to be a flagship the N97 was a great disappointment.
As for Symbian on the TP2, I would wait until later in the year to see what Symbian^3 has to offer before considering porting it.
Just my $.02...

@jaekidd1012
You get the point and understand.
I think most of the people are thinking of the old S40 OS which was garbage. But S60v5 which will now become the revamped Symbian^3, ^4 and ^5 will be an amazing piece of ROM and feature rich capabilities.
Because Symbian and WM are both written in Windows codes this should be a much easier project than Android. Android is great for those who want to use it but it's going to be overshadowed in years to come by Apple, Nokia and Windows.
(pending the Nokia v Apple litigation over Apple misusing patented Nokia technology)

i would love to see sense on wvga. i hope htc isnt giving up on that. i think android has the customization of windows mobile with the app store and prettyness of iphone os. just dont expect any other os's to run. linux has a way of working on any device.

ScooterG said:
UI changes in Symbian??? Sense/TF3D makes Symbian look like a Palm M500 I'd rather any developers with free time spend it on Android.
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The Jack of Clubs said:
i would love to see sense on wvga. i hope htc isnt giving up on that. i think android has the customization of windows mobile with the app store and prettyness of iphone os. just dont expect any other os's to run. linux has a way of working on any device.
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That where I disagree. the Operating system is the base of a platform and so far Android is as stuck as the iPhone, WM offer a lot more "playability" let see if WM7 will be as good for that. the important part is also the software and Android/Google as iPhone/Apple want to control all of this so refuse software allowing tethering and have the right of life and death on any application. I HATE this,
I bought the phone, it is MINE, if I want to void the warranty it is my problem, if I want to install an illegal application in my country I take responsability and refuse that google or Apple guide me like if I was a kid, I mean look at that: http://www.androidguys.com/2010/01/25/nexus-censoring-swear-words/ I really can't stand that you buy a piece of equipment for so much and companies want to force you to use it there way. Plus privacy!!! GOOGLE STORES EVERYTHING YOU DO WITH YOUR (???) PHONE!!! And nobody complains, everybody loves it. a nice GUI is not enough to make a good OS, I am not even talking about the iphone and the multitasking...

totalperception said:
You get the point and understand.
I think most of the people are thinking of the old S40 OS which was garbage. But S60v5 which will now become the revamped Symbian^3, ^4 and ^5 will be an amazing piece of ROM and feature rich capabilities.
Because Symbian and WM are both written in Windows codes this should be a much easier project than Android. Android is great for those who want to use it but it's going to be overshadowed in years to come by Apple, Nokia and Windows.
(pending the Nokia v Apple litigation over Apple misusing patented Nokia technology)
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I was wondering why other posters were making it sound like this was the worst idea anyone's ever read...it didn't sound too bad to me, hah. S60v5 doesn't look as awful as the posts are making it seem.
I don't really care too much either way on this topic. If there was a working rom out there I'd flash to it just to tinker around with since I've never used symbian. That said, I'm more excited about android progress (Even more so about W7, fingers crossed that we aren't disappointed), and totally fine with wm6.5.3 for day to day use until my next device.

android lets you customize the look and feel as much if not more than windows mobile, supports multiple devices and different resolutions, and lets you install programs outside the app store. thats why i think its most like windows mobile. it has the bonus of looking good and having lots of apps like iphone os. which is all why im most excited about it. i think it still feels a little bare but its getting developed fast.

The last time i really liked Symbian, it was called EPOC on my good old Psion Series 5mx, it had great community and support, nowadays symbian is just a crippled platform that mostly Nokia uses. I think its too late for them to go open source, it should have happened years ago...
I just hope that WM7 will be as good as Win7 after the good old matured XP

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
OP: Have you ever even used Symbian? I have, and I have to say it's the most god awful mobile OS I've ever used. I returned the Nokia I bought within a week because Symbian was truly terrible. I can't honestly imagine why anyone would want to run Symbian, by choice, when you have other options like Android, Maemo/Mer, Windows Mobile, or anything other than Symbian. I wouldn't ever want the capable developers who could port Symbian actually waste their time on such a terrible OS. Porting Symbian to the Pro2 would be a downgrade; it would be like trading in a premium, business class smartphone for a $10 feature phone. IMO, not worth it. [/my 2 cents]
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I have to agree with Dave this OS is just crap...

phr33ksho said:
I personally don't see the need for another proprietary operating system with its origins 20+ years old
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how exactly did you come up with "proprietary" idea when it was released as opensource. by the very definition it can not be proprietary.
20+ years ago? wow... you are pretty ignorant, aren't you? why don't you go read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_OS before you make yourself look any more foolish.

Nokia to beat Android?

Here's the article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/nokia-our-first-priority-is-beating-android/
My first thoughts were....hahahaha! In their dreams.
Open source can't be beat, simple as that. But Google do need to come up with a better strategy for implementing their OS on the devices otherwise fragmentation will drive potential customers away.
In my view WP7 is a step backwards, the UI is horrible with home being filed with tons of tiles that you have to scroll through, no real multitasking, locked down like iOS etc, and now Nokia thinks that this move will beat Android. Are they that arrogant?
I did a speed test comparison between DHD and HD7 and WP7 got its ass smacked, it loaded apps/games much slower.
They should of made a better version of N900, that was not a bad phone but could of been a monster.
Your thoughts?

The day that Nokia has dominance over Android, I will get an iphone. I currently own the 1 and only Evo 4g, rooted, stock. (wireless tether of course).

yeah i think nokia is making a bad move

lol good old nokia trying to make a comeback...

I honestly don't know who even carries Nokia phones anymore They once made really nice phones. Windows mobile or phone 7 or what ever they are calling it this year is in the same boat imo. I carried wm since the HTC 8125. And year after year I pationatly waited for ms to get it right, and they never did. It did get better in terms of reliability but I still had to reset my tilt 2 a few times a week.
I think the team up could be good for them but I could care less.
To me, It's like 2 old men in your neighborhood teaming up and thinking they are gonna take back that snow shoveling biz that they had when they were kids all the while everyone already has the youngsters down the street with their self propelled snow blowers that knock out the jobs in no time.
They pissed off most of us loyal wm folks along time ago and you know how that saying about screw me once, screw me twice goes....not gonna happen to me.
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Hmmnn, noki is not going anywhere except in your dreams

Speaking of steps backwards hows the whole no GPU accelerated UI treating you guys? I'm loving having a homescreen that doesnt look like an iphone ripoff. Nokia has an astounding market share in the European market, they have the power to help drive WP7 much higher. Call it a step backwards if you'd like. It's nice to not have to flash a new rom at least once a week to have a functional phone.

I like Nokias phones. My brother has the n8 and the camera is amazing! hopefully this works out and I'll get a nokia with a xenon flash

z33dev33l said:
Speaking of steps backwards hows the whole no GPU accelerated UI treating you guys? I'm loving having a homescreen that doesnt look like an iphone ripoff. Nokia has an astounding market share in the European market, they have the power to help drive WP7 much higher. Call it a step backwards if you'd like. It's nice to not have to flash a new rom at least once a week to have a functional phone.
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There it is, that's what I was waiting for.
UI is hardware accelerated on 2.3 and up, even 2.2 can have it with a minor file modification. How the no copy/paste going? Or hows the whole can't edit a email when forwarding going? When M$ bring out an update will you jump around like a little schoolgirl and call it innovation? C'mon man, the OS is seriously lacking the most important features, it's shameful.
Sure stock UIs layout is slightly like iPhones but looks nothing like it though. You see, I can make the UI looks how I want which fits my needs, not what a few guys think it should be.
Flashing ROMs has nothing to do with having a functional phone, it's only to improve it further and bring out the potential.
Nokia may help with a few sales but many longtime fans will turn around and look elsewhere for a phone to fulfill their needs.

Nokia wont ever beat android
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Why not??? Nokia will beat Android... Didnt u read the article?

ErOR22 said:
There it is, that's what I was waiting for.
UI is hardware accelerated on 2.3 and up, even 2.2 can have it with a minor file modification. How the no copy/paste going? Or hows the whole can't edit a email when forwarding going? When M$ bring out an update will you jump around like a little schoolgirl and call it innovation? C'mon man, the OS is seriously lacking the most important features, it's shameful.
Sure stock UIs layout is slightly like iPhones but looks nothing like it though. You see, I can make the UI looks how I want which fits my needs, not what a few guys think it should be.
Flashing ROMs has nothing to do with having a functional phone, it's only to improve it further and bring out the potential.
Nokia may help with a few sales but many longtime fans will turn around and look elsewhere for a phone to fulfill their needs.
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Important features? in the 2 years I had android I can not remember a single occurrence in which I used C&P or needed to edit a forwarded email. Would it be nice? Sure. Is it necessary? Not at all. The point is while android has these features most of them are haphazardly thrown together and hardly functional where what WP7 has (even though it is lacking some features) truly works without having to jump through hoops. GPU acceleration is possible apparently on 2.3 plus but due to fragmentation and other issues it isn't implemented. If you can truly say the vibrant with its impossible lag or the dodgy touchscreen on the cliq or any of the other ill built phones were functional before custom roms your much more prone to fanboyism than I. It's nice to have a phone that really works, android was a low-end alternative to the iphone, putting it on high end devices is like throwing a Chevy cavalier engine in a lambo, it just makes them look bad except to the community thats always flashing roms which frankl, I dont have the time for any more.

I think Nokia partnering with Microsoft to make WP7 phones is a dumb move. Elop was quoted as saying Nokia is like being on a burning oil platform in the North Sea. So what he wants to do, is to jump onto another burning oil platform called WP7? I think it's entirely due to the fact that Elop is a former Microsoft exec!
I wasn't at all surprised, when I read an article yesterday that said investors were so upset with the news that Nokia stock price fell 14% and many Nokia employees were so upset, they used flex time and left work early.
What I think Nokia should have done, is partnered with Google and used Android. These new phones should be supplied with some kind of proprietary libraries or emulation that only works in Nokia phones to allow existing Symbian apps to run seamlessly. That way, it would provide a practical upgrade path for existing Nokia phone owners. This worked great for Apple when they went to OS X which was a completely different UNIX-based architecture, but used Rosetta to allow old PPC Mac OS apps to run. They could even market a play on words with Symbian related to symbiosis.
I just don't see how going to the smartphone platform with the least market share will help matters. WP7 has less market share than even old WinMo 6.x according to current stats.

GnatGoSplat said:
I think Nokia partnering with Microsoft to make WP7 phones is a dumb move. Elop was quoted as saying Nokia is like being on a burning oil platform in the North Sea. So what he wants to do, is to jump onto another burning oil platform called WP7? I think it's entirely due to the fact that Elop is a former Microsoft exec!
I wasn't at all surprised, when I read an article yesterday that said investors were so upset with the news that Nokia stock price fell 14% and many Nokia employees were so upset, they used flex time and left work early.
What I think Nokia should have done, is partnered with Google and used Android. These new phones should be supplied with some kind of proprietary libraries or emulation that only works in Nokia phones to allow existing Symbian apps to run seamlessly. That way, it would provide a practical upgrade path for existing Nokia phone owners. This worked great for Apple when they went to OS X which was a completely different UNIX-based architecture, but used Rosetta to allow old PPC Mac OS apps to run. They could even market a play on words with Symbian related to symbiosis.
I just don't see how going to the smartphone platform with the least market share will help matters. WP7 has less market share than even old WinMo 6.x according to current stats.
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Your whole argument is based on the foundation that WP7 in 4 months didn't sell as much as WM did since 03? Really? Ya don't say? Their choices were either be just another fish in the android OEM pool that would have received no more attention and no more rights than any other or be THE manufacturer of WP7. Really though, why would you jump from marketing symbian to marketing some re-skinned version of android... that's like jumping from Windows ME to windows Vista. They're both buggy and both require tons of modification before they're usable. Android only sold because it was marketed by google and essentially looked like a low-end iphone for every carrier. WP7 is innovation, it currently lacks a few basic features but what it does have works and thats more than any other OS except iOS can say and honestly, who wants those hardware limitations and ugly UI?

Well, we all know what Vic Gundotra thinks about this...

z33dev33l said:
Your whole argument is based on the foundation that WP7 in 4 months didn't sell as much as WM did since 03? Really? Ya don't say? Their choices were either be just another fish in the android OEM pool that would have received no more attention and no more rights than any other or be THE manufacturer of WP7. Really though, why would you jump from marketing symbian to marketing some re-skinned version of android... that's like jumping from Windows ME to windows Vista. They're both buggy and both require tons of modification before they're usable. Android only sold because it was marketed by google and essentially looked like a low-end iphone for every carrier. WP7 is innovation, it currently lacks a few basic features but what it does have works and thats more than any other OS except iOS can say and honestly, who wants those hardware limitations and ugly UI?
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No, my whole argument is based on WP7 being a sales FAIL. The comparison to WM is only a point of reference, because it's generally well accepted that except for a few fanboys, nobody likes WM.
No, their choices were to use Android, a product that people actually WANT, vs WP7, a product that nobody wants. It doesn't matter how awesome or innovative you may think WP7 is, if nobody wants it, nobody's going to buy it. So if Nokia wants to make money, and unless I'm mistaken, but all companies exist to do one thing and that is make money, they should choose the platform that makes money rather than one nobody wants.
You're saying iOS has an ugly UI? Compared to WP7? Seriously? For most people I know (and according to sales figures, most people worldwide), the UI is what turned them off to WP7 and drove them to Android or iOS.

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Important features? in the 2 years I had android I can not remember a single occurrence in which I used C&P or needed to edit a forwarded email. Would it be nice? Sure. Is it necessary? Not at all. The point is while android has these features most of them are haphazardly thrown together and hardly functional where what WP7 has (even though it is lacking some features) truly works without having to jump through hoops. GPU acceleration is possible apparently on 2.3 plus but due to fragmentation and other issues it isn't implemented. If you can truly say the vibrant with its impossible lag or the dodgy touchscreen on the cliq or any of the other ill built phones were functional before custom roms your much more prone to fanboyism than I. It's nice to have a phone that really works, android was a low-end alternative to the iphone, putting it on high end devices is like throwing a Chevy cavalier engine in a lambo, it just makes them look bad except to the community thats always flashing roms which frankl, I dont have the time for any more.
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lol wut?
This is basic functionality I use most days. Even if I used it monthly the whole point is that when I need it it's there, thats the power of android. You don't need all the features every day, but when you do need it its all there ready.

I will take a speedy UI and no c&p over the opposite any day. No one dropped wp7 and turned to Android or IOS because of the UI. No one has used wp7 because they're a fanboy of either of the other oses and think anything else is wrong. Wp7 in its first poor iteration has a more complete feeling than any of the 30ish Android devices I've owned and that's just sad. Wp7 is small now because people fear change regardless of how much smoother the user experience is.

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I will take a speedy UI and no c&p over the opposite any day. No one dropped wp7 and turned to Android or IOS because of the UI. No one has used wp7 because they're a fanboy of either of the other oses and think anything else is wrong. Wp7 in its first poor iteration has a more complete feeling than any of the 30ish Android devices I've owned and that's just sad. Wp7 is small now because people fear change regardless of how much smoother the user experience is.
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Not true. The only fanboys I know are on this site. I've recently talked to many smartphone n00bs who are getting a smartphone for the first time. Just from playing with the phone in the showroom, they narrow it down to Android or iPhone. WP7 is never even considered. Some people will switch from Android to iPhone and vice versa. People on this forum excluded, I don't know anyone who has even considered going from iPhone to WP7 or Android to WP7. Even my wife, who isn't even remotely a fanboy, has no interest in WP7 simply because she doesn't like how, "it looks so plain and boring". Maybe people would love WP7 if they actually used it for awhile, but Microsoft can't even get them through the door, much less reel them in.

Wp7 needs a mascot like a bald guy in a turtleneck or a little green robot. Then it would be srsbiz.

Car Computer: Android or Windows 8?

So this summer I was going to build a carputer with a kit that I already have, similar to this :
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Seeing that the new windows 8 metro style UI looks to be very touch screen friendly. I just have to find a double DIN friendly touch screen. And the board that I got has 5 CH audio output that I would just run into a 4 channel amp for my speakers.
Then I started thinking that I like the android tablet idea because I am more familiar with it and I can BT from a tablet to my phone to use internet and GPS functions and that would be titties, only downfall was that I would only have 2CH of audio split into two to get my 4CH, that and every 7" tablet that fits a double DIN hole is pretty weak, but could work.
Then I found this effer:
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Seems to be everything I wanted, just not sure on sound quality or how well the systems integrations work... that and I get to do no customization and building myself.
I already have a double DIN touch screen dvd car stereo but it lacks navigation and Bluetooth capability.
Dunno whats better.

Probably Windows 8.

Android is just not an OS meant for something beyond phones, if you want something touch friendly on a larger scale, the tiny icons of ICS on a tab aren't it while driving. Windows 8 is info at a glance, just like windows phone. Given the option, I'd take the OS that seems to be suited for the job, GPS/BT link to your phone would still work given the right programs on win8

i think android

If it runs google music in terms of music, it would be good. Android can also offer FM radio if the device supports it, and I don't think Windows 8 does that
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Android. Simply because it is much more flexible than W8. IMHO.
So although the stock Android might not be as touch friendly, you can always make it touch friendly.

v0nHippie said:
Android. Simply because it is much more flexible than W8. IMHO.
So although the stock Android might not be as touch friendly, you can always make it touch friendly.
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but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.

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but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
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That's the thing. It won't. not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
Android it much more flexible, no matter what your marketing department has to say about it.

As long as its not the arm version of windows 8, which won't run older windows software, I think windows 8 is better choice. It will run lots of the very good pre existing windows software and be compatible with additional hardware you might want to add later such as wireless controls and screens etc.
Android is a good choice but for op's needs windows 8 is probably better.
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For the time being I would say android, mostly because Windows 8 is young and there aren't many (mature) apps you could use effectively for the purposes you want.
However, I believe a year (maybe a bit more) from now, Windows 8 tablets should be on par with android and when you think about all these Windows 8 non-tablet apps you could also run, Win8 will be the way to go.
TL;DR Android for a year, switch to Windows 8 later if you want comfort. Or just skip android and get Windows device.

v0nHippie said:
That's the thing. It won't. not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
Android it much more flexible, no matter what your marketing department has to say about it.
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I haven't had a bsod since vista, I don't think many have. Bringing up old issues to argue about a new OS is foolish. Here's some relevant android issues, lag, not touch friendly on a big screen, fragmentation, stability.

There will be more possibilities with Windows 8, but atm Windows 8 have to much bugs. For now better choice is android, for the future win8.

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but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
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The guy wants to put a tablet in his car...you think he is worried about customizing?? Please stop the madness. Even on the most beta of ROM's you have working GPS, music, games, and bluetooth. What more do you need? Also I don't know how much you follow Android, but there was just a HUGE breakthrough in per app DPI that would make customizing a tablet for a situation like this super easy.

Windows 8 would be more car friendly due to the massive buttons, but Android has less bugs, and Windows 8 isn't out yet. Android for now, Windows 8 when it's out for longer.

What makes you think android has less bugs? Really...

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What makes you think android has less bugs? Really...
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What makes you think android lags?
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VOT Productions said:
Windows 8 would be more car friendly due to the massive buttons, but Android has less bugs, and Windows 8 isn't out yet. Android for now, Windows 8 when it's out for longer.
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How do you know Andriod has "less bugs" when Windows 8 isn't even out yet?
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not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
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BSOD and license agreement prompts?! Are you using a pirated copy of Windows 98? I have Windows 7 64 bit and the ONLY time I ever saw a BSOD was with a new third party piece of hardware that had buggy firmware. Pulled that out of my case and never saw anything like that again.

Android, car mode, Done.
Windows 8 on a small board? Probably will have to be the RT version and it'll have to be pirated. Even then you don't know what all will work.
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z33dev33l said:
I haven't had a bsod since vista, I don't think many have. Bringing up old issues to argue about a new OS is foolish. Here's some relevant android issues, lag, not touch friendly on a big screen, fragmentation, stability.
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You always get a bee in your bonnet about android lagging but ignoring that, as you never listen to anyone who says otherwise, even if it were not touch friendly on a big screen just how big a screen do you expect it to be using in a car? It wouldn't be a problem even if it were true, though I would like to see sources backing up that claim of not being touch friendly.
Stability? Seriously? You do realise android phones can be left on indefinitely without becoming unstable so how can stability be an issue?
I actually agree windows makes more sense but I do think your mistaken in your view of android.
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If the Car-PC you are getting is x86... go for Windows 8
if it's an ARM based computer... go Android
Best keep it native right?

(off-topic) do you still like the android platform?

Do you still like the android platform?
or will be you next phone windows phone 8 os or iphone (ios)?

Never
I will never stop loving android and hate apple fanboys.

i have tried both windows phone 7 and ios, and they are very unique and interesting to use. But after a while u will start to get bored using the same old platform and i think android is the same. I heard Mozilla has released a "firefox os" and written based on HTML5 or so. Looking forward to it ^^

I also like and will still like Android.
Windows and iOS are so "closed" and so "B* I'M FABULOUS!" ... where changing wallpaper is max of your coustomization possibilities

yomek88 said:
I also like and will still like Android.
Windows and iOS are so "closed" and so "B* I'M FABULOUS!" ... where changing wallpaper is max of your coustomization possibilities
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Agreed.
I've been using a lumia 800 for a couple of days and frankly i think i could get enogh of it soon
Also forming part of a community of people wanting to develop tweak and wanting more from your phone means something, at least to me, i recently realized that i like all the rooting, trying new roms, tweaks, scripts, customization and contributing to this community, i don't see the other 2 platforms giving me the same

RomWiz said:
Never
I will never stop loving android and hate apple fanboys.
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loving a platform and hating the fanboys are two entirely different things. lol.
i too hate the "iFans", but the OS's fluidity is just amazing "NOW" (after flash is not going to be supported on droids too. a sad case because still now 70% of all websites use flash and not HTML5 ). there are a few common games for both the platforms. try and play both simultaneously. the iOS handles them reallllllyyy wellllll.
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Agreed.
I've been using a lumia 800 for a couple of days and frankly i think i could get enogh of it soon
Also forming part of a community of people wanting to develop tweak and wanting more from your phone means something, at least to me, i recently realized that i like all the rooting, trying new roms, tweaks, scripts, customization and contributing to this community, i don't see the other 2 platforms giving me the same
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now, i hafta differ. android is great. i bought back my OB from my frnd whom i had sold it off, because i just LOVE android customizablility. BUT, i also have bought a lumia 710 (it's 90% lumia 800, save for the camera, extra storage and the screen tech) and gotta say i kind of like it better than the android platform.
WP7 has a few nice things up it's sleeve. first and best is battery life. lumia 710 is having a 1300 MAh battery, yet gives me about 2 days with 2g always on (that means syncing SNS and live tiles all the time), about 4/5hours of music, few snaps, etc. also, the level of SNS integration is just mindblowing. maybe there are less apss and games, but i actually don't play much. line birds, line runner as games and the super awesome "photosynth" app, a toggle app, a live card and a doc scanner. dats all. nokia also has given 2 nice apps as "camera extras" and "creative studio". all to say, am really really REALLY satisfies with the WP7.5 (and with 7.8 the homescreen is gonna be much better )
am using it for less than a week and already by OB has turned into my 2nd phone.
and mind you, there ARE a couple o' ROMs for the lumias at xda.

i've tried my friends' iphones and windows mobiles for about a week each
the iphones are damn smooth(sometimes they have slight lags)
windows mobile am fed up then when i see, those platforms aren't for me
they are too monotone to me
i love my android and am now using it as it was created for(games, emails, youtube, homework, camera, facebook, skype)
when i feel like buying another phone, i think about mine and say to myself...will i really use those features?
then i look at mine and remember the day i bought it and its wonderful features
no, i'll stay android if ios7 is still like this

I like Android very much!!! Very customizable, and it's getting better and better
Time for Android
Pros:
Very customizable
Updated quite often
Has a lot of features
Custom roms, themes, etc
Flash support! Though Flash for mobile will be soon discontinued by Adobe :/
Android exists among all types of phones; low,mid and high-range phones, therefore it is very flexible in terms of budget/choice of the customers.
And so on
Now, the Cons:
Not well fragmented; lag exists & it has quite a lot of problems compared to other OSes
Does not support many games, compared to iOS
Laggy browsing experience with ANY browsers.
The OS sometimes require powerful phones to run smoothly, thus making more expensive phones better, and cheap phones worse.
Your android powered phone can be easily bricked and has more software issues than other OSes; this is because building Android for 1000s of phones is really not easy, while iOS and WP7 are supported by very few devices, making the development of the OS very easy and better.
And MANY more
Now turn to iOS
Pros:
Very well fragmented; a 600Mhz device can run very smoothly.
Has very low software issue.
HTML5 support, super smooth browsing experience ahead!
Very hard to brick an iPod/iPhone lol
Games, games, GAMES!
Has featured apps which are quite useful (Siri, iMessage, etc)
iOS have a more professional look than Android, but less than WP7.
Super easy to use! Even my 3 year old niece can use it.
Has free cloud storage by default
And many more...
iOS is not without cons:
Can be extremely boring for some people.
no customization, unless you jailbreak, which still allows you less customization than Android.
Supported only by iPod/iPhone, restricting consumer choices/
Software updates makes older devices obsolete and outdated, forcing customers to buy new iPod/iPhones.
Apple = purely marketing... People buy iPhones blindly XD
No bluetooth file transfer to other devices!!
And so on...
I didn't not really used a WP7 powered phone, but from what I see, it is a very good and fluid OS!
Pros:
So much simplicity, so fluid, so COOOL!
Damn it runs at 60fps like all the freaking time! Practically no lags. - Extremely well fragmented.
Perfect to impress others lol, the OS is very well presented and looks like a premium OS.
More customization than Apple's iOS
HTML5 support, super smooth browsing experience ahead!
Xbox User can use Xbox Live on their WP7 Phone!
Has free cloud storage by default
Easy to use.
WP7 phones gets major software updates.
Now the Cons (there may be more):
No bluetooth file transfer! Just like iOS
Not as customizable as Android.
For some, the UI can be very boring.
And some more...
If I had to decide which is the best Operating System for phones, it would have been extremely hard!!
To simplify the decision I would divide it into categories:
In terms of Choice, Functionality and Customization; ANDROID
In terms of Apps, Stability and Ease; iOS
In terms of Fluidity, Professionalism and Ease; Windows Phone 7
I am not surprised to be using a WP7 phone in the future as I like the UI so much.

I think im going to use wp 8 if it come our or wp 9

for the future, it's unpredictable all os are good
ios and wp are said to be fluid and here comes jelly bean
its to your taste
i myself dont know what i'll really buy next time
but i prefer ios or android

theaks30 said:
for the future, it's unpredictable all os are good
ios and wp are said to be fluid and here comes jelly bean
its to your taste
i myself dont know what i'll really buy next time
but i prefer ios or android
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Idont like that some android device dont get update but the can handel it google need to say something about it because a iphone with lower specs than a iphone 4s is slower or the same speed
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