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Hi all, I just got my HTC Pure over the weekend and I had a question from those with more experiecne.
First I know (or I think) that the battery life will improve over the next week or so as the battery gets used and charged. Today however was an issue. The phone came off the charger this morning at 100% and then went to work. While at work there is absolutely no signal in the building. (never has been) The only time it was on the network was a 1 hour lunch, and then light internet use for approx 25 minutes this evening. That is all, no calls, nothing, and it had 19% battery left in only 12 hours off the charger.
Again, I am sure that it will improve, but the question is ... does being off the network (GSM) drain the battery faster? Does the phone use a lot of charge "searching" for signal?
I am sure that there are a lot of things that I could do to extend battery life, as a work around (no bluetooth, plug it in to the USB on the computer at work, turn off 3g etc) but I was just curious if someone in the know on how the network and battery use go together if the dead zone is the biggest problem.
Thanks
Not exactly scientific results, but before att put decent coverage in my neighborhood, the battery seemed to drain a lot faster. I guess turning it off would help, but down to 19% that quick just seems ridiculous
cmstackar said:
Not exactly scientific results, but before att put decent coverage in my neighborhood, the battery seemed to drain a lot faster. I guess turning it off would help, but down to 19% that quick just seems ridiculous
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Funny enough it is my wifes first smart phone. I was just looking at it to change some things to better suit her needs. When I opened the task manager I discovered that a) the programs would only minimize when the X button was pushed, not close and b) windows Live messenger was loaded. I would guess that even though she was not signed in on live messenger it could have killed the battery. Gonna make a couple of tweaks to ensure that it does not fire up again, and see what it looks like tomorrow.
So today was better, but she seems to have had intermittent service. Her media net indicates that it was connected all afternoon. She burned through 40% battery in the AM and only 18% in the afternoon.
I would imagine that the location services for the weather on the sense home screen as well as possibly push email running out of control searching for the signal. I will turn things off 1 at a time until I find out what is driving the battery loss.
Is there any software to monitor battery use and what was using the battery? There is in android.
O.k. continue to have issues with this phone.
Tested last night. Charged to 100% and then light use. Approx 10% down after 3 hours.
Set commmanagerpro to turn off the data and phone radio during the hours my wife is at work. She called today and the screen is showing that the phone radio is off, but it has lost 90% in less than 4 hours. She also said it is hot.
Maybe her purse is somehow turning the screen on? Would the screen being on without any radios cause the phone to plow through battery?
I am gonna try a battery monitoring app and see if it will tell me anything. Its freekin weird.
What radio version are you running?
You may want to consider flashing to a different Radio ROM.
try to see if there are any TSR, residente program, active, maybe be the the problem...
as far as radio versions the 4.49.25.91, for my exprience run far...
you can try to swcht to other radio version...
I am using the AT&T stock radio. I flashed to the energy ROM, but the battery issue is so extreme that I doubt that the radio or the ROM are the driving factor.
She does have 3 magnets in her purse. 2 magnetic catches on her side pockets and 1 on her wallet. While I could not reproduce the device turning on by itself from the magnets, that does not mean that it is not.
The other thing is that there was some warning on the screen about the GPS signal. I imagine that is a side effect of turning off the radios, but maybe not. Is the GPS always on normally? Would a GPS pop up cause the screen to stay on for possibly 3 hours.
This afternoons test will be having her leave her phone in her jacket pocket rather than her purse. We will see how it goes.
saunet_ptg said:
try to see if there are any TSR, residente program, active, maybe be the the problem...
as far as radio versions the 4.49.25.91, for my exprience run far...
you can try to swcht to other radio version...
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I will look at that radio. I doubt its a program since I had no problems with it at home last night. It has to be environmental. My money is on the purse, but we will see. I'll post later and let you know what we came up with.
There was a few days ago where she lost 60% of her battery in the morning but only 12% after lunch, so that convinces me that it should be something that we can identify and work around.
Energy's ROM may have included the radio.
I had horrible luck with .91 and flashed back to .17.
Symptoms of a bad radio are rapid battery drain and device heating up.
Also, if the device heats up, it will no longer charge until the battery cools down.
If you have AGPS enabled, that was likely your error message when you turned off the radio.
A couple of pointers;
Make sure you monitor which programs are running as you may just be minimizing instead of closing.
Check your power settings and make sure to turn off screen after X minutes
make sure all updates (weather, e-mail, stocks, etc) are set to every hour.
Bruce Inman said:
Energy's ROM may have included the radio.
I had horrible luck with .91 and flashed back to .17.
Symptoms of a bad radio are rapid battery drain and device heating up.
Also, if the device heats up, it will no longer charge until the battery cools down.
If you have AGPS enabled, that was likely your error message when you turned off the radio.
A couple of pointers;
Make sure you monitor which programs are running as you may just be minimizing instead of closing.
Check your power settings and make sure to turn off screen after X minutes
make sure all updates (weather, e-mail, stocks, etc) are set to every hour.
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Thank you for your advise. The biggest area of opportunity from your list for me is the Radio I think.
The rapid discharge of the battery due to a bad flash, would that be location specific? The rapid drain only seems to happen in a spot where she has no signal (thus the reason I programed it to turn off the radio in those hours)
The running program should no be an issue. To prevent that, as a matter of standard setup for my phones, they have a small script that soft resets them every morning a 4am, so that they are fresh and clean for the start of the day.
As for updates, I have adjusted everything that I can, and some did not have any effect (mostly because the radio was off, can't save much more than that).
I do leave the bluetooth on all day. That should not be draining the battery in 3.5 hours though. I have read a lot of the battery life threads and many of the ideas would cripple the phone, and I am not going there. Sure maybe I don't need weather updated every 30 minutes, but I want me email when it comes in, not once every few hours. I also don't want to have to push 20 buttons each time I want to make the internet work. Its this kind of usability that sells iPhones... I hate them, but they really do just work... and my wife wants a phone that you don't need to be an expert to use.
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Thank you for your advise. The biggest area of opportunity from your list for me is the Radio I think.
The rapid discharge of the battery due to a bad flash, would that be location specific? The rapid drain only seems to happen in a spot where she has no signal (thus the reason I programed it to turn off the radio in those hours).
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Do you know how to view your radio version? Its listed on the bottom of your phone when you reset, the 3 numbers that display, R is the radio version.
You can go to the radio thread and flash another version, just keep testing different versions until you get one that works well. Radio ROMs will not overwrite your data.
Radio's are definitely location specific in regards to region and carrier.
Borderline coverage is a major battery killer, but you're disabling the radio, which should resolve that issue...
G-Profile is a nice app that allows you to set what type of connection and when.
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Mine didn't and I used the May 1st update. Still Stock.
If no signal is happening in the building, I would think it's the various things continuously trying to run, like Email, GPS etc. Constant failed attempts to update your phone's apps would definitely drag the battery down in a hurry. I have my email set to 3 hrs. updates along with weather updates. Nothing I do is so important at this point in my life that faster than 3 hr. responses are required. I also don't use things like Tweeter and FaceBook so those aren't constantly eating my battery. I get about 1.5 to 2.0 days from my battery currently.
Here is the current (no pun intended) testing results...
This AM 3.5 hours used 100% of the battery (in the purse)
This PM 4 hours used 21% of the battery (in the jacket pocket)
Gonna try to leave the phone outside of the purse all day friday and see what the results are. Then see how it works around the house on saturday, in a standard limited use type scenerio. Then Sunday put it into the purse and see if it becomes an issue again.
If all of this works out that the purse it the problem, then I will start tweaking it out, and changing radio's etc to get the max I can out of the battery.
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Here is the current (no pun intended) testing results...
This AM 3.5 hours used 100% of the battery (in the purse)
This PM 4 hours used 21% of the battery (in the jacket pocket)
Gonna try to leave the phone outside of the purse all day friday and see what the results are. Then see how it works around the house on saturday, in a standard limited use type scenerio. Then Sunday put it into the purse and see if it becomes an issue again.
If all of this works out that the purse it the problem, then I will start tweaking it out, and changing radio's etc to get the max I can out of the battery.
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So today we left it out of the purse. Here is what we got...
On the table next to the computer, so confirmed that the screen is NOT activating at all. Phone radio off, data off.
AM... used 40% in 4 hours.
Better, but still not good. Gonna try to ensure that the email is set for longer, currently it is set for 10 minutes, and then try to turn off a-gps and the regular gps and make sure that those things are not killing the battery. Then flash a new radio. We'll see how that works next week.
First, test it and watch it over normal, with signal, average 4 hours at home this weekend. I think it will do great... meaning that it is the purse, or the environment that is causing the problem.
I don't know if anyone is following my personal drama, but maybe it will come up in a search some day and help someone.
Here is the saturday update.
Took the phone off charge at 2am and looked at it at 11 am this morning. Used only 2% in those 9 hours. So it is definitely NOT a defective device, or battery. (it actually charges up in only a couple of hours)
So looking into the profile schedule manager that I installed, turns out it has not been running. So the whole purse/no purse thing may be horse hockey still. Monday I will be setting it manually to airplane mode to verify that it holds a charge, then finding a new program to do the scheduling. (looking into phonealarm)
If the radio was on, at full power searching for a signal, it would only last approx 4 - 5 hours at best. So it makes sense that this is what is happening.
Hey, guys, I tried dong some research but I can't find anyone with a similar problem.
I've got a T-Mobile (USA) G1 and I've got Cyanogen's Eclair ROM flashed on it. Prior to flashing Cyanogen's ROM, I was using OpenEclair. OpenEclair was working [relatively] well until my phone randomly started shutting off. I thought it was a battery calibration problem, so I recalibrated my battery by letting it die completely and then charging it fully, but that didn't work. I flashed Cyanogen's Eclair and hoped that my problem would be fixed, but the problem still persists.
I can't really isolate the problem. My phone can shut off in the middle of a call, in the middle of writing a txt message, or without me even using it while it's in my pocket. It shuts off regardless of the battery level (I've seen it shut off at like 97%). This wouldn't be THAT bad except the phone refuses to turn on right after it shuts off. When I press the power button, the phone will show the G1 logo for a few seconds and then shut off again as if it was dead. Sometimes if I press the power button, the phone won't turn on and I'll see the LED flash red which gives me the idea that the phone "thinks" it's dead. In order for me to turn the phone back on, I need to plug in the charger. This is becoming extremely annoying.
Does anyone know what the problem could be? I would try wiping/re-flashing but I don't wanna lose all my data :/
Thanks,
Gerard
I'm having the same exact problem ever since installing cyanogen 5.0.7 Test 1... so im not sure whats going on but i went to T-Mobile today... and they said my battery is warped or somethin not to tech savy... yet it was working fine like totally so... hmmm anyone know anything?
yea this has happened to me too! It shuts off randomly then i cant turn it back on until like 30 minutes later without touching it. I noticed that it happened after i flashed a open eclair rom that wouldnt start but i did flash it correctly. I have wiped battery stats and dalvik cache. Well i hope we can get some answers
I had the same problem I have tried just about every rom out there so dont remember when it started but i ordered a new battery off ebay for 10 bucks and havent had a problem since
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I had the same problem I have tried just about every rom out there so dont remember when it started but i ordered a new battery off ebay for 10 bucks and havent had a problem since
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So you think it's a hardware problem? I find it kinda hard to believe that all of us coincidentally got this problem after installing Ecalir ROMs...unless Eclair destroys our battery somehow?
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yeah same here but mine started with Amon Ra 1.2.3 and the blue haze rom. I updated my recovery to the latest 1.6.2 I think and switched to htcclay's superfast and the danger spl slso tmobile is comping me a new battery just to be safe, although switching rom's seem's to have helped my battery life a little. hope this helps someone.
Have you tried replacing the battery?
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Have you tried replacing the battery?
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Nah, I'm part lazy and part unconvinced that it's a hardware issue. I mean if the phone reads that the battery is like 95% charged, why would it just give out randomly? I don't know much about hardware though, so maybe I'm wrong...
I want T-Mobile to get a new Android phone that's like incredible I want a new phone already damnit!!
im just gonna buy a battery on ebay or something because my battery does look kinda swollen so it could possibly be the battery. Gonna give it a try though
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im just gonna buy a battery on ebay or something because my battery does look kinda swollen so it could possibly be the battery. Gonna give it a try though
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You think you could update us when you find out whether it changes anything or not? :/
This phone gets me really frustrated because first it started shutting off and now i have a unresponsive lock screen! I push all the buttons and the screen is black like if its turned off. I have to do a battery pull but theres a risk of the phone not turning back on and shutting off on the g1 screen. I was planning to buy the battery today but i think im just going to use a different phone for now. I hope someone can really resolve this problem. Cant wait for the samsung galaxy s
For what it's worth, I started having the same issue last week with my G1. I think it's entirely coincidental that you switched to the CM 2.1 Test branch and your phone started getting screwy.
I looked at my battery as the first suspect, and what did I find when I pulled it out of the case? A badly swolen battery. By the end of the week, the swelling had gotten so bad that it was visibly bulging the plastic backing on my G1.
I took it to 3 separate T-Mobile stores looking for a replacement battery. The first two were of no luck, but the 3rd finally had one in stock. The CSR saw my battery and almost freaked out. She says I was lucky that it didn't pop because it was ready to at just about any moment.
Long story short, since replacing my battery, I have had ZERO issues, and my battery life has once again been phenomenal (well, for the G1).
I just checked my battery and I think it's possible that it's swollen. On the side where it says "htc Innovation," is it supposed to be perfectly flat? There's like a rectangle that's slightly raised above the rest of surface. I'm a little hesitant to buy a $50 battery if that's the way the battery is supposed to be.
Thanks,
Gerard
Spontaneous power off - sunspots?
Yes, this happened to me fairly frequently about 3 months ago. Now it happens (maybe) once a week.
In my experience, it isn't a Cyanogen issue - it would spontaneous die when I used Enomther's official rom, SuperD (one of the previous versions), and some others. That made me think it was hardware, but ... I haven't changed hardware, and still drop the G1 into my pocket like usual.
So if it isn't ROM software and it isn't hardware, what is it - sunspots?
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I just checked my battery and I think it's possible that it's swollen. On the side where it says "htc Innovation," is it supposed to be perfectly flat? There's like a rectangle that's slightly raised above the rest of surface. I'm a little hesitant to buy a $50 battery if that's the way the battery is supposed to be.
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Gerard
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It should be perfectly flat. A new, good battery does not have the bulging rectangle in the middle you are talking about. Mine did the same thing. In fact, both sides were swelling. The battery would no longer sit flush in the back. My theory was simply that some sort of movement was causing it to lose contact and shutting off the phone.
If you take the battery out and lay it flat the table, you shouldn't be able to rock it by pressing an edge. If you can, your battery is dying.
I just bought a battery yesterday on amazon for 15$ You should check it out. Hope this battery resolves my problem. I also fixed my lock screen issue. I had set cpu to 120 instead of 128 so it unresponsive.
I have the same problem, and indeed when i now look at it my battery seems a bit swollen. I ordered a replacement battery on dealextreme. They have a few different battery replacements for the G1 for cheap (and lots of other things, regular customer) with free shipping. So i hope that will fix my problem .
I found this thread because I've been having random shutoffs as if the battery were pulled (black screen immediately, no "Shutting Down" prompt first), and it would only do this when NOT charging. This started happening when I first ran Firerat's all-in-one script but I think it was coincidental. So anyways, I found this thread after wanting to pull my hair out because of the random shutoffs, and sure enough, I pulled my battery and it's a bit puffed out. Time for a new battery.
My question is : does anyone think this is a result of the extra strain placed on the battery / heat generated from being overclocked? Once I get a new battery, I'd like to prevent it from happening in the future.
definately a battery problem. had the same thing on my g1. got into a whole big argument about how it WAS NOT PHONE in the cyanogen6 thread. guess what....it was my phone.
its not the rom. its your phone. seriously.
also, just to point out, most of us here got our phones relatively early in its release, and lot of people are having this problem now apparently. battery has life of 2yrs by my calculations.
if you can mimic a reboot with the phone plugged into usb or wall charger...it may be rom. but if you phone DOES NOT DIE while PLUGGED IN...ITS YOUR BATTERY.
Had the same problem with my 2008 bought g1, swollen battery and random shutdowns. Just inserted an new bought battery. Hope it fixes the problem.
Just received this in the mail, thought I would upload some pics.
Obviously this is being used in the Australian version (Telstra HTC Velocity 4G) and the Battery is advertised for the Vivid/Raider/Holiday
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Back of Battery Reads
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Long Lasting
High capacity Li-ion Battery
BARCODE
RDHT0010020111130 (30 November 2011 maybe)
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Front of Battery Reads
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For HTC Raider 4G/Holiday/X710E
3.7VDC---3600mAh
Model:BH39100
Rechargeable Lithium-ion Battery.
+ usual warning sticker about fire being hot and try not feed it to babies or yourself and try not to crush it with your monster truck or puncture it with a pick axe.
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I will be charging it overnight (I sat the battery in the phone for the pics but have not used or charged it yet) and I will let you guys know how it goes
It cost US$12 with free postage
Already I can tell you that the larger back plate is flimsy and will probably unclip 50 times a day, I have ordered several soft cases for the phone and I intend to cut one to fit the new battery hump, that soft case should stop the flimsy case from sliding up. It's also a finger print magnet, but so is the rest of the phone so meh.
Anyway, enjoy the photo's and let me know if you would like some more info.
If anyone is interested in the inside of it, I am happy to pry it open for science.
how long dose it last
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how long dose it last
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I will let you know how long it lasts when I charge it up tonight, and let it run, do you have a preferred battery monitor you would like me to collect statistics from?
UPDATE: **** it, I popped it in and managed to get it up to 100 percent at work in 1 go, I have reset my batt stats and we shall see how long she lasts I'm syncing 2 gmail accounts in push, 1 exchange account in push and my facebook and twitter accounts and leaving wifi and bt on even though bt I only use in the car for a2dp and wifi I use when I am in range of home... so it should be searching all day long
Well I'm up to 17 hours and I'm at 57% battery... going from 7PM Australian-DST when I pulled it off the charger after the first charge to what is now 12:24PM , I've kept syncing exchange and gmail, and got about 30 sms messages, made a few calls, used gps for 10 minutes with google maps in car turn by turn, rebooted into recovery and ran a backup, took a few minutes of video footage, drove for around 2 hours using A2DP to stream music to my car using PowerAmp as the player.
So Far the big ones are
44% display
15% cell standby
12% wifi
8% phone idle
6% google maps
4% android OS
4%voice calls
2% PowerAmp
2% com.htc.bgp
2% ADW.Launcher
1% Bluetooth
It seems better than the original battery, usually I charge it in the car when I use GPS and A2DP but I wanted to avoid chargers until I deplete the battery for this test, it doesnt seem to have hammered the batter as much as I thought it would of.
I am in a 3G area, there is no LTE available here yet.
Looks promising. Thank you for posting. I may have to try one.
At about 3pm, the battery percentage started plummeting quickly, its 6pm now and I'm at 8%, I haven't done anything special its just been sitting ticking over some emails and sms's coming in, haven't made any calls or anything, so the dramatic drop in battery is kinda indicating to me that its just a **** battery, I do not forsee much more battery time out of this than the standard battery, infact it might even be worse by the end.
so 50% of the battery lasted 20 hours, and then 42% of the batter left in 3... bleh
okay ran completely flat at 7:24
so thats like 24 hours, I dont know if that is good or not
It's not terribly unusual for a battery to underperform for the first few charge cycles. I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet.
My Raider didn't make it through the first few days (understandable for the first day, though, since I was constantly playing with it), but now I regularly find it has 30-50% left 16-18 hours after unplugging it, depending on usage.
fair enough, I'm taking it through a few power cycles over the week and I'll report my results
makes the phone look UGLY
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makes the phone look UGLY
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Personally I think the phone looks ugly to begin with lol... I find the Galaxy S2 or even the nexus prettier, but I love the holiday for its technical specifications, if I wanted a fashion accessory, I'd get an iphone... or a bracelet.
Have gone a few days with this, the phone feels too thin when it has the normal battery pack on it now... I find I miss the hump on the back, I also like the feel of the smooth glossy finish against my palm as opposed to the standard metal backing... of course if my phone covers EVER get here from the land of ebay (aka Shangzen, China) this will of course change again
The look of the hump on the back has actually really grown on me, and when its on its back on a table its now much easier to pick it up without it slipping in your fingers as you can get your fingers right under it before you lift it.
I did some testing with that batt a while back.. about 8 hours of netflix w/ wifi, bluetooth on.
I like not having to change the battery every day. Though I have to make a case work also.
battery is working pretty well for me, I'm going to do a full test and see what I can get out of it again now I have worn the battery in.
FYI - I'm getting a big jump in time on the stock battery after flashing - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22480315&postcount=167
Well, this run I got 1 day 20 hours out of it im guessing cause the last 24 wont last long, which I am impressed by, however the phone does not appear to really register the battery level properly it still spends forever in the top 50 percent ie 1 day 17 hours for the first 50 then it blasts through the last 50 percent in a few hours.
yea.. I reported that a while ago. Mine stays at 100% for half the day then starts dropping.. once to about 15% it will go quick. haha I cant see to get apps to really show the right info.
These batta are suppose to have a chip in it.. but I dont know how it all works with the apps.
My basic impression with the battery is , YES, it does last longer, however it's impossible to tell how much charge you have left as the phone cannot tell properly how full the battery is
hi.. where do i get that circle battery theme? thanks
to get that, you need to have a rooted phone, I used
http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/
you pull some files out of your phone (they are different for each rom, so if I gave you mine, they would just break your phone) and upload them to this site, make the changes you want (ie the circle battery indicator) and then this website cooks it into a recovery ZIP file, put that file on your /sdcard directory, reboot intop recovery and flash the zip onto your phone, clear your cache, clear your dalvik cache, then reboot, done
let me know if you need more help, basically before you can do this you need to follow the suerguide and have your phone at least rooted and have recovery installed. This is the only way to really change that icon, you can install an app from the market that will give you second battery meter, but yeah it looks crap
I use an app called "Screen Filter" to turn down the screen brightness whenever I'm indoors. This saves my battery tremendously. I see your VIVID Display also kills your battery. I'm getting over 24hrs on the stock battery with the screen brightness set to 50% with the app, but I have autosync and push turned off for all programs. I make a few calls and text about 10-20 times per day. I check facebook and gmail about once every couple of hours. This is pretty stellar with the stock battery. Oh ya, I have the SafPWR Fusion2 but only use it only when taking business trips. It's only 1800mAh but it gets me another day of power.
I'm very tempted to get your battery pack especially since it's so cheap! I'm sure the performance will improve over a few more weeks of use. 2 days of usage with full autosync and exchange sync is pretty impressive!
Hello,
Been a while since i was on XDA because i chose a good enough rom and never had to back again. I've used android for quite a while. My first android phone ever was a HTC Tattoo. This is like my 7th android phone now and i've modded every phone i ever had with a custom rom because the stock ones were full of stupid additions that just took up space for no reason. I've encountered many issues along the way and solved most of em. But here is another issue i just cannot fix no matter how hard i try.
I have a regular Xperia Z1 c6903 and i've used it for quite a while. Played Hearthstone alot on it even tho it did make the phone feel like a radiator. After time, the back glass started loosening up bit by bit. I think it has something to do with the glue loosening because of the constant heat of me playing Hearthstone. Didn't worry about it too much, until i started having these weird battery issues. The phone started dying on weird percentages, jumping from 14% to instant 0% and shutdown. I've encountered this issue before on other phones and it just happened to be a software issue where reinstalling the rom or installing another would fix the issue.
I tried this on this phone multiple times. Worked once. Then it came back. Tried even installing the stock firmware again so its in factory settings even tho i didnt relock the bootloader. Issue didnt get fixed. Tried switching to a kitkat stock firmware, didnt work. Tried installing another custom firmware, didnt work. So i reverted back to the rom that i found worked best for me despite the battery issues, DStrikerZ1 Kai.
The issue just got worse. It started dying on 30% and just went higher and higher each time. Then it kept dying on like 64% or so each time. At this point, every time i charged it it just jumped from 1% to like 54% in less than a minute. I charged it each time while it was off. I didnt turn it on to then charge it.
2 days ago, it died on exactly 84%. It's at this point i was looking into options because i cant have a phone that charges only to what it THINKS it 100% and then stops charging to just die then at 84% while discharging per percentage at a normal rate.
Next day, the battery and the back glass i ordered arrived. There was one issue tho which i realized much later, the battery i got was too fat. Mostly on the lower part of it. I was able to plug the battery in but i couldnt put on the back glass entirely because the battery is too fat. So i put it on as much as i could and just taped it around with white tape around the phone but above and below the screen so it doesnt block it. Also cut out what was needed with a scalpel so sound and camera arent blocked. While trying to replace the battery, i think i may have accidentally pulled a little bit on the back camera so it popped out just a tiny bit. Pushed it back in and it looks fine. Although now i can't launch my camera app and it crashes each time. Dont use it much anyway so not a big loss for me.
Here is the result of this new battery:
It works. Although i still have the battery percentage issues. But it charges a bit differently now and discharges differently. NOT CORRECTLY STILL. 1 hour ago i put on charging because it died outside again at a wrong percentage. Was like 60%, dont remember. I turn it on again and while its turning itself on, i plug it into the charger. It says 52%. So i launch Pokemon GO and run it for about a minute. Then it dies again. Then i turn it on again and NOW its on 1% and it starts charging what i THINK is normally. 20 minutes later after charging, i check it and its on 11%. Then the really weird thing happens. As im watching the percentage go up, it goes from 11% to 15% in a matter of seconds as if it went up by 1% per second. It's been 1 hour now and its on 27%. One thing that i think is just a coincidence but i have no idea, it died like 6 times only while Pokemon GO was running.
I seriously don't know what to do. I don't know if the issue isnt with the battery but the phone itself, or if it just needs a bit calibration. But you can't use a phone reliably if you cant know when it needs recharging. I can't buy a new phone for at least 2 more months. I have a Galaxy S2 somewhere that i can use in the meantime but its cracked a bit and the top left part of the glass just above the display is just gone. Taped over it to keep it covered. But it'll get the job done in the meantime.
I know i should have made a book about this. I did write alot. But i feel people will be able the help me if they know exactly every detail.
What does the community of XDA have to say about what i should do or try?
Thank you in advance!
Sounds like you got a damaged or used battery that is bad. It has dead cells in it thus the voltage and percent drop. Besides that original Sony 3000mAh battery will fit perfectly and look exactly like replaced original battery (bar it can have different text/icon layout on white sticker).
EQ2000 said:
Sounds llike you got a damaged or used battery that is bad. It has dead cells in it thus the voltage and percent drop. Besides that original Sony 3000mAh battery will fit perfectly and look exactly like replaced original battery (bar it can have different text/icon layout on white sticker).
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The one i got by mail actually is also the original Sony 3000mAh battery. I did the comparison and it does look exactly the same with only the sticker being a tiny bit different in what exact code it had on it. But this one was thicker on the bottom part of the battery. I'll just order another one then i guess...
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The one i got by mail actually is also the original Sony 3000mAh battery. I did the comparison and it does look exactly the same with only the sticker being a tiny bit different in what exact code it had on it. But this one was thicker on the bottom part of the battery. I'll just order another one then i guess...
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But if it is thicker then it is a used one that has swollen cells in it due to dendrite which makes cells go bad and ultimately shortcut the cell(s) resulting in sudden drops in voltage thus the percentage jumps down or goes directly to 0 depeding on severity.
Return the battery and get a new one and make sure it is original. When you get it weight it and compare with the old one. IIRC battery should weight about 42-43 grams. On the sticker you see 2 numbers with a W inbetween. First is year it is produced and second is the week eg 13W32 which means 2013, week 32.
I suggest you order from Teknikdelar.se (since you live in Sweden) which has original Sony batteries and they are new, fresh ones. Avoid anyone selling batteries without "original Sony" inserted into description.
EQ2000 said:
But if it is thicker then it is a used one that has swollen cells in it due to dendrite which makes cells go bad and ultimately shortcut the cell(s) resulting in sudden drops in voltage thus the percentage jumps down or goes directly to 0 depeding on severity.
Return the battery and get a new one and make sure it is original. When you get it weight it and compare with the old one. IIRC battery should weight about 42-43 grams. On the sticker you see 2 numbers with a W inbetween. First is year it is produced and second is the week eg 13W32 which means 2013, week 32.
I suggest you order from Teknikdelar.se (since you live in Sweden) which has original Sony batteries and they are new, fresh ones. Avoid anyone selling batteries without "original Sony" inserted into description.
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This actually now makes a whole lot sense. It is kind of swollen as if its been used up. I will order a new one as soon as i can from the website you linked. Appreciate the help! :victory: :laugh:
I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?
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I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?
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I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
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You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.
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I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
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I did have scanning on, so I went and turned them off. I have a Verizon variant, so I can't root. Do you have any recommendations for how to track down a rogue app or service that might be draining the battery?
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You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.
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I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
Do you know anything about the... I think the setting is called Always On Display or something like that. The setting where when the phone is locked and the screen is off, it always displays the time and notification icons. I had it on my Pixel 2 and it worked great, it's almost necessary for me at this point. I have it turned on also on the 5, but it seems...finicky? At times it shuts off, especially at night. I used to keep my Pixel2 on my nightstand (just laying flat, not on a stand or anything) and the time would be on all night so I could see it at night if I woke up. With the 5 it seems to shut off in the dark. Additionally periodically during the day it sometimes all of sudden jumps to really high brightness, then back down to dim, sometimes it turns off completely and I have to hit the power button or the fingerprint reader to unlock the phone. Even doing the tap to wake doesn't work. Actually that double tap to wake doesn't seem to work at all regardless.
Any info on any of those issues you know about? I've been searching around and I've found basic references to some stuff with that always on display but no direct threads or anything specific.
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I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
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Not too sure about AOD, I just went with defaults. But last night, my first with the P5, I unplugged at full charge and 7 + hours later it was at 100%. That's never happened but it was face down and on DND. Nonetheless, check out this thread, download the app, non root needs certain permissions, and let it run for a day or so. It should show you what you need to know.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Did you make sure to charge the phone to 100% before using it??? These lithium ion batteries need to be charged to the max if you want them to last. My pixel 5 wasn't even fully charged it was somewhere around 65% out of the box. I would leave it charging for a half hour or so once it hits 100% just to be sure.
I mean.. this is mine.
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I mean this mine.
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That looks similar to my first day of use. Excellent battery life so far.
jobhax said:
I mean.. this is mine.
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That's incredible. Next time include all 3 screens please. I could get 12 hours of on screen time all on wifi. Let's see you get that on 5G.
Real world battery is best.
I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.
Coming from a worn out pixel 2xl this 5 is fabulous the battery is great. I accidentally left the flashlight on for an hour and it barely drained it. The battery is exceeding my expectations. Screen on time at 5 hours and I'm just at 49% with 10 hours remaining. I'm satisfied for sure
Also on Verizon, but no issues for me. Battery life has been amazing, I didn't charge last night (unintentional) and I was going until this afternoon, with mostly light usage. I've never experienced something like that before.
So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
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The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.
I'm at 5 hours of screen on time and 17 hours use. The battery is exceptional and I can dedicate more time to work online because of it.
It sounds like you have ported a troublesome app over from your old phone to be honest. I think a factory reset would fix it.
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I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.
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Mine says 3,900mAh and hasn't changed for two weeks, which irritates me. Battery life is... okay.
Curious
I'm losing apprx. 6-10% while I sleep. seems a little excessive compared to other testimonies. I have to usaul social media apps, messeging apps no gaming, no AOD.
Any insight is appreciated.
I aslo did the FR with copying from older phone as suggested in the thread.
Morpherios said:
So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
Link Here
The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.
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I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.
czm said:
I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.
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I just finally got my replacement last night from Verizon. Too early to tell if it fixed my battery issues because I had to set everything up and such. But If you have those issues, I would get a replacement. That's a faulty phone.