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[Think Tank] Game Emulator Controller solutions Wii or otherwise

OK, granted I don't know much but maybe this thread can group peoples Ideas on a suitable controller for the captivate.
I know the WII Controller app currently doesn't work for us, but we do see that the controller hardware does offer the opportunity to pair with the phone over bluetooth.
I guess the first step is to successfully get the pairing, is this possible somehow? would a successful password hack make it happen?
I guess second would be to have it recognize buttons in a keyboard fashion to work with most emulators.
I know the developer of the existing wii controller app has said we probably get his app working, and I don't blame hime for not trying to get every phone to work, but i feel there is enough talent here to maybe get our own solution?
Or, if anyone actually has a better solution to the hope for an external controller, please help us all!

Wait the WII app does not work for us? I was about to hit BB :-(

Unfortunately the test app didn't work for me, and the developer has the captivate on the list of phones that currently are not compatible and most likely will not be compatible in the future with his software.

Ouch :-(
Not good news but better than me buying the wiimote for nothing.
I am assume is a matter of time before someone comes up with one anyway

Has anybody tried pairing a Playstation 3 controller with the phone? PS3 + HDMI via USB cable would make a great portable gaming console for when out of town at family, etc.
I'd definately contribute cash towards getting a working driver if needed.
EDIT: Also, MSI has a bluetooth gamepad that works with the phone. Google MSI BGP100. My biggest complaint/concern is that the controller doesn't seem to be designed to accommodate a phone in landscape mode, so that's a bit of a drawn back for playing games on the go (as opposed to hooking it up to a TV or monitor, where it wouldn't be an issue).

I actually emailed the dev about future compatibility for our phones, he said it's samsungs proprietary bluetooth drivers that are incompatible with the wiimote.
If we were to flash a vanilla android rom or something, it would work just fine.
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EDIT:
"Hello,
thank you for your question.
You're right about the frequency of these kind of requests. Newer Samsung phones unfortunately use proprietary bluetooth stacks (developed by Samsung) instead of the default that is in Android, named Bluez. That proprietary stack doesn't support the type of connection that wiimotes need to connect.
So, the only way currently for you to have this app working is if you get rid of that bluetooth stack. If you want to, you can root and flash your phone with a custom ROM. "Vanilla" ROMs have had success with other non-compatible phones in the past. Vanilla just means a type of ROM that is made from code that originates directly from Google, not from Samsung. One known creator of good quality vanilla ROM is cyanogen from xda-developers.com, but I don't believe his ROMs can run on the Galaxy (yet).
A friendly word of caution: rooting and flashing probably voids your phone's warranty and you also loose all the data (like contacts, app settings, etc) so MAKE BACKUPS before doing anything.
Best regards,
Piki"

This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!

Amen brother
wakeupkeo said:
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!

wakeupkeo said:
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.

wakeupkeo said:
Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!
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So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.

Has anyone ever tried interfacing a standard controller through the microUSB port? Or custom building such a device?

derek4484 said:
So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.
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It depends on the drivers otherwise no bluetooth device will be able to connect...at least that is how I see it.

no that the psx emulator is out and resedent evil 3 works perfectly, i would like to see some kind of gamepad, sucks theres no way to use a controller.. , is there even anyone working on getting this done???

Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!

Sublim3_Tilt said:
Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!
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derek4484 said:
Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.
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vibrant roms work with a few known and easily fixed issues with button logic. there may be other issues i cant remember but it is doable. as long as the vibrant is getting attention it should be enough.

Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!

wakeupkeo said:
Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!
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Wouldn't be too sure about that since he removed bluez after version 5 saying it caused more trouble than it was worth. It would seem the only hope we have now is for gdanko's aosp froyo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815420&page=18

Indeed it seems aosp is a gamer's only hope for our beloved captivate... we need the non samsung proprietary Bluetooth stack.
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PSFreedom or PSGroove For Vogue

Basically this allows you to run homebrew on PS3. It has been released for other Android devices and even a release is coming for a TI calculator. I was seeing if any of the great devs here could get this to work on the HTC vogue? Here is some more info http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/tag/psfreedom/

Also, this is how it works on Nexus One if it might help someone port it
http://dukio.com/tutorials/psgroove-htc-google-nexus.html

I too would love for someone to look into this. I'll help any way I can!

i would also love this
please someone atleast look into it
Moral support +1

Sadly with the last firmware update from sony (3.42 mandotory) it "fixed" the PS3 hacks

crackeyes said:
Sadly with the last firmware update from sony (3.42 mandotory) it "fixed" the PS3 hacks
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Just don't update lol
Besides, now that the system is actually broken into, I'm sure new methods and work-arounds will be found.

vinny13 said:
Just don't update lol
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this guy has the right idea, i mean modern warfare 2's single player is totally worth ignoring the multiplayer for.
and resident evil 5's AI is way better than playing with a friend
sarcasm generously implied.

So any thoughts if this can be done? I haven't seen any of the devs say anything, but of course they might not have ps3 units.

aa

th3lolz said:
i don't have a PS3, but what happens if you do the usb mod and then update the firmware?
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the new firmware fixes the exploit used to make the mod work, so the answer is when you update the firmware it will undo the mod

I'm surprised no1 has ported this to the vogue yet, the HD2 got it already, maybe that file works with the Vogue??
I have a sprint vogue lying around but the screen is broken so I can't see anything

sp1kez said:
I'm surprised no1 has ported this to the vogue yet, the HD2 got it already, maybe that file works with the Vogue??
I have a sprint vogue lying around but the screen is broken so I can't see anything
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if its anything like the playstation emulator as far as for performance, we just dont have the specs to run it even with the GPU, and CPU overclocked. That playstation emulator still was unplayable i expect the same result

thoughtlesskyle said:
if its anything like the playstation emulator as far as for performance, we just dont have the specs to run it even with the GPU, and CPU overclocked. That playstation emulator still was unplayable i expect the same result
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This is not an emulator, it's just an edited android boot that sets the device as a usb hub
Can someone put the files from the hd2 on their vogue and follow the directions listed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777120#

sp1kez said:
This is not an emulator, it's just an edited android boot that sets the device as a usb hub
Can someone put the files from the hd2 on their vogue and follow the directions listed
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Just tried it and it didn't work... not surprising considering its for a totally different piece of hardware

Now that HD2 code is out, couldn't someone port it to Vogue? seems like it wouldn't be that hard

PSFreedom has also been ported to the Droid Compiled against 2.6.32 kernel
i dont know how easy it would be but im assuming with more and more droid devices being ported to someone will make a vogue port hopefully

you do not need 3.42 to continue playing online. There are several proxy servers you can run on your windows machine that will let your ps3 continue to work online reporting to psn that you have 3.42 even tho your only on 3.41.
This only works because the only thing 3.42 did was fix psfreedom so there is no real reason to have it.

I was reading up on this a little bit. From what I see for other phones, it seems like you need to flash your rom to PSGROOVE everytime you want to use it to play a game? Is that right?
If so, can the phone still work as a phone in the meantime?

i think as long as the kernel makes the usb device look like a hub then the rest is scripts i could be wrong though
if thats the case it would only need 1 flash, but i believe i read somewhere you loose usb mass storage capability something like that
some phones i think do have a rom dedicated for just PSFREEDOM
eitherway i would still use it and run a seperate copy of android from the SD when i wanted to play the ps3

the ones i've been looking at they arn't flashing, they are temporarily booting from a new image (using adb) that has insmod enabled and working so they can load the usb module and change the usb port on the phone to register as a hub instead. I havn't tried it myself yet but I do know we have insmod already enabled... or at least the command is there so we might not need that step.
Sony seems to be right ontop of everything tho, closing down things as they are discovered.

Ps3 to force firmware update to play some new games!

http://tinyurl.com/37s3uhh
I mentioned this when the first hacks started coming out that were restricted to the firmware.it looks like sony is going to be forcinggamers to update their firmware to play at least 1 new game and probably will on more. The psfreedom/psgroove days may not last long.
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Without be reading anything extra, doesn't the PS3 already make you update to a new FW w/ new games or playing online? I think it's some new PSP game that's going to make you update your PSP FW....right?

omegasun18 said:
http://tinyurl.com/37s3uhh
I mentioned this when the first hacks started coming out that were restricted to the firmware.it looks like sony is going to be forcinggamers to update their firmware to play at least 1 new game and probably will on more. The psfreedom/psgroove days may not last long.
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MOH game will force you to update and so will the new Gran Turismo and im sure more are coming too

Yes your right about Sony forcing updates with new games. But that will not stop psgroove / freedom. This is just the beginning. They are working on cfw. It also won't be long until something like wiiscrub comes along and rids of the update partition. Or they find a way to patch the game. Best case scenario stay away from new games until they figure out the kinks.
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Anyhow - why is this in with the evo stuff?

agreed. why is this in the evo forum? there is a playstation forum for this.
its sad that this site used to be the Holy Grail for development now its just gone down hill with all of this off topic banter.
and yes i know my post adds to the off topic however it needs to be said... this is my only comment on this though....
where are the mods?

We need a xbox thread too

Hrshycro said:
Anyhow - why is this in with the evo stuff?
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At least its in the general section?
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Xbox sucks
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It fits in the evo forum because u can use the evo to jailbreak your ps3. Probly should just be in the Android forum tho cuz u can use a lot of android phones for it. But that's y when u hack a console its good to keep a 2nd cheaper model to play online and for situations like this. But I guarantee that there will be a workaround for the update.

it's not even like this is new news. There have already been some games that required the first 3.42 update. Here you are worrying about 3.50? lol

The reason i posted it here is because as mentioned 1) you can use the EVO to apply the PSgroove/psfreedom hack and many on this forum DO.Could i have posted it in general Addroid sure i could have however not all android phones can be used so i guess under troll reasoning it shouldnt be posted there either and 2) "A. general is for general information. you have something to share? post it there." The purpose of a general forum is to allow you to post "general" information. As this is General Information and does actually apply to some evo owners i will ignore the people not intelligent enough to get it. I am all for people posting in the right sections however in this case the trolls need to get over it.
Now back on topic It took 4 years to get a working hack for PS3 and they still havent gotten around the new firmware. while it may be possible that they can work around other aspects to get these new games running ... there isnt much of a track record thus why i used the word MAY. I wouldn't hold my breath on everything working out at least quickly and in that case how many people are going to wait around for months to pick up a new game especially some of the highly anticipated ones (gt 5, MOH, rumored COD and assasins creed).
The big difference with this new plan is it doesn't just require you to update to play online, It requires you to update to play period and that the update is actually built into the disk (versus being online which is currently used for updates and can currently be circumvented.) This is not how updates are currently handled and it is going to start showing up on games coming out in the very near future.

Yeah its been done before, not with all the games but I expect this to be more common now with the jailbreaking.
Heard the new MoH isn't that good though. Anyone play it?
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Sorry, but this thread has nothing to do with the EVO, Android, or even mobile phones, so I will place it in Off Topic.

i wanna jailbreak but i havent got a desire or anything.
anyone do it for xdaII or lg gt540?

I wanted to do it for emulators, but decided modern warfare 2 was just to fun to give up online.
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[Q] Wiimote Controller on Tab?

Please forgive my ignorance, I'm completely new to the Android world. Has anyone been able to root a tab to allow Wii controller access?
Searched multiple forums but could not find a definitive answer.
Thanks!

I've rooted mine, and actually thought about trying the wiimote app again. (I used it on my Nexus 1)
I'll give it a shot...

It doesn't work. I'm guessing for the same reason the Galaxy S phones won't work with it either, the bluetooth isn't compatible.

I confirm also that it doesn't work. I've tried 2 different wii controller apps. And my galaxy is rooted. It just won't sync.

Yeah I tried em both also. I'm sure the BT hardware is the same on the Tab and the SGS phones, and they don't work either. I was very disapointed when I couldn't use this after switching from my N1 to my Captivate.

10-4 thanks for giving it a shot.

One of the developers of one of the apps says it's to do with TouchWiz. Sounds more likely to be a software issue than a hardware blutooth issue, which means it could be fixed or hacked Hope!

similar issues on my T-Mobile tablet; I tried to connect a Wii controller to my tab and the wiimote app keeps telling me to enable bluetooth.

i can confirm it works well on archos 101 but not on tmo gtab

im hoping they patch this im looking forward to using it for gaming

kitzuki said:
im hoping they patch this im looking forward to using it for gaming
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Me to, with a hdmi out cable and a couple of wii controllers. The tab could be a neat little mini mobile gaming system. Hopefully with 2.3 or 3.0 we'll get that support. But then again I don't even know if the hardware can support a wiimote.
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Any news on this? I was really hoping to play mario on my galaxy tab? : (
Anyone know of any other controller for android?

I also still waiting on some news.
Having brought Snes,Nes,Gba, psx emulators on my tab I dieing for some news.

I thought is was do to with the bluetooth stack used by Sammy?

Yes, I believe you are right about the bluetooth stack. I think our most likely option right now is to wait for the cyanogen roms to be completed for our tabs.
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Lucky_Charms said:
Yes, I believe you are right about the bluetooth stack. I think our most likely option right now is to wait for the cyanogen roms to be completed for our tabs.
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I wonder if it's possible to change the one that's used in a stock ROM...
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Would like this to happen also.

I poked around with the Wiimote and the Tab last night and it looks like L2CAP support is needed in the kernel before this will work. I haven't built a kernel for an android device yet, so I'll leave it to the chefs to build it in.

agentdr8 said:
I poked around with the Wiimote and the Tab last night and it looks like L2CAP support is needed in the kernel before this will work. I haven't built a kernel for an android device yet, so I'll leave it to the chefs to build it in.
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Feed your research back to the clever people though.
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Feed your research back to the clever people though.
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Yes Please do!
I hope we can alter what ever needs to be altered in order to uses a WiiMote with the Samsung Tab.
Seeing that the Dell streak 7 doesn't have Hdmi out, this tablet still really is my only chance of having real Gaming emulation on the go without adding much bulk!

PS3 Controller for Android Devices

I know XDA has a handful of threads in other parts of the forums talking about this app. Just letting everyone know that I works for me (I am running AOSPTheory/CM7). I do not know if it works with other roms, so if you try it, let us know!
First Link is the DEVS website
Second Link is to the marketplace, it's a compatibility checker
Third Link is the actual app that you need to pair your phone and controller.
http://www.dancingpixelstudios.com/sixaxiscontroller/tool.html
https://market.android.com/details?...xiscompatibilitychecker&feature=search_result
https://market.android.com/details?...udios.sixaxiscontroller&feature=search_result
Again, if you aren't running CM7/AospTheory, let us know if it's compatible with your rom!
EDIT: Seems like it is NOT working with sense roms!

No go on SkyRaider Zeus Preview
Just letting you know it doesn't work right now on the new Gingerbread SkyRaider Zeus Preview. Can't wait for it to be supported. Looks pretty sweet!

Working on Cyanogenmod 7 for ThunderBolt via BootManager.
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PS, anyone with an Asus Eee Pad Transformer, it works with that too

Tangentially related, but anyone running AOSP / CM7 been able to use their phone as a text entry device for PS3? Seems like they don't like to talk to each other over bluetooth - I make the phone discoverable for 5 minutes, and my PS3 just sits there scanning for devices 'till the cows come home

AOSP Bluetooth stack will work. Sense will not. Samsung tablets will not. It would require someone porting the bluetooth stack and considering no one has done it, I would guess it would be hard.

SP1986 said:
Tangentially related, but anyone running AOSP / CM7 been able to use their phone as a text entry device for PS3? Seems like they don't like to talk to each other over bluetooth - I make the phone discoverable for 5 minutes, and my PS3 just sits there scanning for devices 'till the cows come home
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Works with Blueput Droid and any android device I have used running an AOSP rom.

Morkai Almandragon said:
Works with Blueput Droid and any android device I have used running an AOSP rom.
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That is the app I am trying as well. Wondering if I should back up my save games and just do a factory reset. I may have tried it once in the past and aborted the process for some reason and it caused it to hiccup and not be able to pair up again.

Thunderbolt running Gingeritis 1.2.1
Does not work on Gingeritis 1.2.1 ROM.

Hmm seems as if it doesn't work with sense roms yet. Ill edit my op to list this