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Hey guys.
Well, I used to own an HTC Titan, and I would just spend days and days flashing and cooking ROMs like no one's business, but due to cost issues and general irritation with that phone, I switched to a flip phone for a while. Now, I'm back, on Sprint with a CDMA Hero and an unlimited data plan and I want to really see what this thing can do.
Yes, I have the Sprint 2.1 update and I've rooted it successfully. However, for some reason, everything felt a bit sluggish so I factory restored. (Don't know how to explain this, but kinda regretting it when I see all these custom ROMs floating around). Now, I want to get back into ROM flashing.
I wanted to get your guys' opinion on what ROM to use. I do have just one condition though, so hear me out before you tell me which one you love .
Simply put, I love HTC Sense. I've used my friend's Samsung Moment and I could not stand the UI. Sense, to me, has a sort of refinement I've grown to love. (just the way I am, I guess. So yeah, by extension, I don't want or need JiT. I've seen the differences in linpack tests and I'm not impressed enough to ditch Sense for it. Also, does Sense have to be cooked into a ROM by default or can I flash it in as an addon?
So what are your picks? I'd love to have something fast.
Damn another one of these. Go with fresh 2.od with the two updates. or with actually it depends what you like most of the overclocked roms are good but they have one setback when you push menu or the power button to get them to turn on there is a delay. but other than that there good and fast. I like zenexp slide port because it has this thing called mymodes where you can change your themes on the spot. It's hard to describe but it's good
thatguythatdid said:
Damn another one of these.
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This.
@OP - Fresh 2.1.2. If you want friendstream JsChiSurf has a mod to fresh that makes it work. I am running it now but am having issues with gmail not giving me notifications. Which is a HUGE deal.
Ill throw my rom in there. It has sense and is based off of fresh 2.1.2 but ovetclocked and fully themed. Not for everyone but its there.
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I would say give fresh 2.3.3 a try it has the sense ui and lots of cool stuff on it and of course the dancing android bootscreen rocks!!.
Try fresh2.3.3. I've been using it for a week, and it's pretty cool.
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since everyone claimed fresh ill put zenexp out there,its light and fast,i run it with darchs uv oc 710 kernal and love the hell out of it
Id put mine out there but no1 likes is recommend fresh or red dawn or blue echo my favorites
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Just wanted to say that I used to LOVE Htc Sense as well... I've reverted to AOSP based roms such as PureHero or Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 - reasoning why is that I feel that Sense really bogs down the phone and I feel like my Htc Hero responses a whole lot better and smoother as well.
Hi guys. Hopefully this is the correct board to post in. I'm a former fan of CyanogenMod. I used the old CyanogenMod builds that ran Android 2.1, but when 2.2 came out, I jumped to a rooted stock 2.2 ROM.
After trying CyanogenMod 6, I'm pretty disappointed. It felt much slower than stock, and it no longer had the CyanogenMod feel.
Anyhow, are there any developers that actually make clean and stable ROMs? With every N1 ROM I've looked at, the developers seem obsessed with changing the Android GUI around, and not adding more important features.
There really seems to be no ROM that keeps the default Android GUI look and feel, but adds things like a percentage in the battery icon, a white-on-black Messaging app tweak, and some of the under-the-hood performance tweaks.
Maybe I'm just angry, and maybe no one shares the same sentiments as me, but I'm just curious to hear back from others. Am I going to have to bake my own ROM to get what I want?
Thanks in advance anyone who took the time to read my rant.
Edit: I wanted to note, after seeing a friend's Motorola Droid with the BuglessBeast 2.2 ROM on it, that looks like almost exactly what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, that seems to be a Droid-specific ROM.
Push Mms.apk from latest CM6.0.0-RC1 to whatever ROM you wish, and you got the black background in MMS.
There are some close-to-stock ROMs, like Geo411m's.
Personally, I use LeoFroyo with black bar until CM supports SD-EXT in framework, that would be a good enough reason to switch. I'm already tempted to switch to have browser enhancements, but I don't feel it's a good enough reason by itself. For some reason, Browser.apk crashes when pushed, probably has some CM-only framework dependencies.
I'm a fan of Kang o Rama
I'm really liking Geo411m's ROM, aside from the trackball-unlock (no way to disable it as far as I can find?).
Maybe I should just learn to bake my own ROMs-- I don't really want much past the stock ROM, just a couple things, really.
There wouldn't happen to be any informative threads on how to do so? I looked around but couldn't find much.
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Push Mms.apk from latest CM6.0.0-RC1 to whatever ROM you wish, and you got the black background in MMS.
There are some close-to-stock ROMs, like Geo411m's.
Personally, I use LeoFroyo with black bar until CM supports SD-EXT in framework, that would be a good enough reason to switch. I'm already tempted to switch to have browser enhancements, but I don't feel it's a good enough reason by itself. For some reason, Browser.apk crashes when pushed, probably has some CM-only framework dependencies.
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Thanks for this.. i was just about to start a thread about how to get black background.
ExodusC said:
Hi guys. Hopefully this is the correct board to post in. I'm a former fan of CyanogenMod. I used the old CyanogenMod builds that ran Android 2.1, but when 2.2 came out, I jumped to a rooted stock 2.2 ROM.
After trying CyanogenMod 6, I'm pretty disappointed. It felt much slower than stock, and it no longer had the CyanogenMod feel.
Anyhow, are there any developers that actually make clean and stable ROMs? With every N1 ROM I've looked at, the developers seem obsessed with changing the Android GUI around, and not adding more important features.
There really seems to be no ROM that keeps the default Android GUI look and feel, but adds things like a percentage in the battery icon, a white-on-black Messaging app tweak, and some of the under-the-hood performance tweaks.
Maybe I'm just angry, and maybe no one shares the same sentiments as me, but I'm just curious to hear back from others. Am I going to have to bake my own ROM to get what I want?
Thanks in advance anyone who took the time to read my rant.
Edit: I wanted to note, after seeing a friend's Motorola Droid with the BuglessBeast 2.2 ROM on it, that looks like almost exactly what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, that seems to be a Droid-specific ROM.
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There is no one ROM that is perfect for everyone. Maybe you guys are new to Android and this is your first device. Maybe you've just been spoiled with the variety of developer support... but most of us former G1 owners who rooted were very adept at picking bits from various ROMs and pushing those bits into a developed ROM that was already largely what we were looking for. I remember downloading and pulling out frameworks, changing icons, pulling/pushing apps, etc. That way, you end up with EXACTLY what you want. Perfect example... I was reading comments on Engadget to Cyanogen's latest Froyo build for the G1, and some ass complained about the "ugly" rounded notification bar. All he has to do is push over one or two files from any of a gazillion other ROMs and he'd have his original notification bar back.
Think of custom ROMs as a starting point... and then find and push the parts of other ROMs that you really like over a good custom ROM. You'll learn a lot and end up self-sufficient. You'll probably also feel very proud of doing some of the work personally.
ummm, what exactly is wrong with MoDaCo ROMs? modaco's philosophy is being as close as possible to a stock ROM, with just a few improved tweaks. modaco ROMs are like stock ROMs. you tried this?
uansari1 said:
There is no one ROM that is perfect for everyone. Maybe you guys are new to Android and this is your first device. Maybe you've just been spoiled with the variety of developer support... but most of us former G1 owners who rooted were very adept at picking bits from various ROMs and pushing those bits into a developed ROM that was already largely what we were looking for. I remember downloading and pulling out frameworks, changing icons, pulling/pushing apps, etc. That way, you end up with EXACTLY what you want. Perfect example... I was reading comments on Engadget to Cyanogen's latest Froyo build for the G1, and some ass complained about the "ugly" rounded notification bar. All he has to do is push over one or two files from any of a gazillion other ROMs and he'd have his original notification bar back.
Think of custom ROMs as a starting point... and then find and push the parts of other ROMs that you really like over a good custom ROM. You'll learn a lot and end up self-sufficient. You'll probably also feel very proud of doing some of the work personally.
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I agree 100%.
You'll probably like this
ExodusC said:
Hi guys. Hopefully this is the correct board to post in. I'm a former fan of CyanogenMod. I used the old CyanogenMod builds that ran Android 2.1, but when 2.2 came out, I jumped to a rooted stock 2.2 ROM.
After trying CyanogenMod 6, I'm pretty disappointed. It felt much slower than stock, and it no longer had the CyanogenMod feel.
Anyhow, are there any developers that actually make clean and stable ROMs? With every N1 ROM I've looked at, the developers seem obsessed with changing the Android GUI around, and not adding more important features.
There really seems to be no ROM that keeps the default Android GUI look and feel, but adds things like a percentage in the battery icon, a white-on-black Messaging app tweak, and some of the under-the-hood performance tweaks.
Maybe I'm just angry, and maybe no one shares the same sentiments as me, but I'm just curious to hear back from others. Am I going to have to bake my own ROM to get what I want?
Thanks in advance anyone who took the time to read my rant.
Edit: I wanted to note, after seeing a friend's Motorola Droid with the BuglessBeast 2.2 ROM on it, that looks like almost exactly what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, that seems to be a Droid-specific ROM.
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Try Modaco's roms, their basically stock, just rooted. His was the first one I tried, but I switched to evil because I like black status bar and theme. Modaco's roms are not themed, and the same way stock is set up his is set up, nothing extra. If I did'nt like my roms themed, I would definitely rock one of his for sure.
Using geomod411's rom myself. Added a2ext support and it's all good. It's practically stock so I'll be looking to add things like black mms later.
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Jack_R1 said:
Push Mms.apk from latest CM6.0.0-RC1 to whatever ROM you wish, and you got the black background in MMS.
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I tried this but it didn't work. I had to push it from Recovery because when the phone was on I kept getting an error about it being read-only.
adb push Mms.apk /system/app/Mms.apk
Worked in recovery... but my text messaging interface has not changed. It's still the stock/white.
EDIT: Did it a ghetto way. Used Root Explorer, removed /system/app/Mms.apk -- then installed the Mms.apk that I pulled out of the CM6 zip. That worked.
Are you seriously complaining about Cyanogens CM6 RC1?... You do know what RC1 means right?
Anyway, CM6 is the best release of 2.2 for N1 out there.. it's just in a working stage now and there are allot of things to fix... that's why it is a Release Candidate... and it was in Alpha testing not long ago.
If you want a clean and simple go back to stock...
blas4me said:
Try Modaco's roms, their basically stock, just rooted. His was the first one I tried, but I switched to evil because I like black status bar and theme. Modaco's roms are not themed, and the same way stock is set up his is set up, nothing extra. If I did'nt like my roms themed, I would definitely rock one of his for sure.
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I use modaco with desire theme. You can add any theme you want with metamorph.
I bought my gf a Sprint Hero to see if she likes using Android. Might buy an Evo or whatever comes next if she likes the platform (this is her first smartphone, I've been using them for a loooong time - since the iPaq days!)
Anyway, the used one I bought her has stock 1.5 ROM on it, and I know that the Sprint 2.1 ROM is also available. I've searched all over and see mixed opinions on if its worth upgrading or not. A lot of bugs seem to crop up in the 2.1 version, but also some new features and better app compatibility in the market.
I'm a long-time HTC device user, but always WinMo, so I'm no stranger to flashing/modding etc. But I don't want to get into that at all with her phone, she'll get angry if I try to do something and then something else breaks, so I just want whatever stock ROM "just works" best. I don't want to have to "maintain" this device.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks in advance.
Hi there. As far as what "just works"...I have used both 1.5 and 2.1 stock...some people have experienced multiple problems. I used 2.1 stock for awhile before rooting...and quite honestly, the only problems I had was occasional lag...not drastic like some have reported....and rapid battery drain. I've since rooted 2.1 and use an overclocked kernel. Now, with GPS location off (still use cell service loc.), and no task killer whatsoever...i get almost 24 hours of battery with moderate to high usage. I experience no lag whatsoever. And, quite honestly, the rooting process and installing the OC'd kernel are VERY easy. I don't know about your girlfriend, but the skeptics I know...given a few days running straight stock unrooted...came back in a couple days begging me to root and make their Hero "run like mine".
Thanks for the info. I might go that route. Are you running a ROM with Sense? Did you just root the stock Sprint Sense ROM and OC it?
Any more help would be appreciated, like I said I've done a lot of ROM flashing and modding in the past but always on WinMo, I'm new to Android but have been reading up on these forums so I think I have a good sense of what needs to be done now. I'm not afraid of rooting / flashing processes, but I really don't want to put on ROMs where little weird glitches are going to piss her off. I don't mind dealing with that on my own phone, but this really does need to be a one-time job where I can just had it off to her and never have to deal with it again
I am running a ROM with Sense. It's the actually the HTC ROM that has been rooted. Here is a link to the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267 It runs sweet. I also formatted the stock 2gb SD card to ext for use with Apps2SD and it worked flawlessly after flashing the ROM. There are plenty of straightforward instructions here in this forum. Like I said, I think your g/f will be very pleased with the speed and battery life using this message. I flash a couple roms now and then to try something new, but always come back to this 'cuz it "just works".
1.5 is faster & more stable imo...but outdated. 2.1 provides a few new features but it's really up to her which one she wants to use. try them both out.
for 2.1 id use the stock rooted sprint rom
for 1.5 id suggest the pancake rom.
If you flash one of the OC kernels, just know that not all phones can handle the OC speeds, especially on bootup. If you decide to flash an OC kernel, MAKE SURE you nandroid backup first in case that phone goes into bootloops or freezes after the new kernel. Start with the 691mhz one just to test, then if all is good you can move up to 710mhz or 768mhz if you want more.
Also, to answer your initial question, I personally think stock 2.1 is much better overall than 1.5. Without even considering OC kernels, extra apps, widgets, etc....Android 1.5 didn't even have native CDMA support, so it had to contain a lot more code/tweaking for our Sprint build, which is why it runs so slowly and laggy. 2.1 includes CDMA support which automatically makes the code smaller and it means the OS automatically runs more quickly and smoothly on almost all HTC Heroes.
The only big consistent issue I've heard of on stock 2.1 is terrible Bluetooth functionality. Most other issues are hit or miss cases that aren't very common.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info, this has all been helpful.
To update, I dove in and just updated to the latest 2.1 Sprint official ROM (.6). I don't really think she has a current need to be rooted, as she doesn't use many apps, and doesn't need tethering.
If the need arises in the future for these things, I'll just flash the ROM linked above, or flash back to .5, root, and re-flash. Maybe by then there will be a root for .6 anyway and it will be even easier yet.
I'd also like to post my experience with 1.5 vs 2.1 I am not sure why everyone feels 2.1 is so much slower. I'm guessing it's because they haven't applied the .6 patch, which in addition to fixing the root exploit, also adds a bunch of speed enhancements in the UI.
2.1 is much faster on her phone than 1.5, especially scrolling in long lists, using the dialer, and even swiping between homescreens. She's quite happy with it, and I don't have to hack any fixes due to broken stuff in ROMs, so I'm happy too
I'm liking Android enough that I think I'm willing to buy another phone to play with, I got sick of dealing with flashing and hacking on my WinMo devices, so I went to iPhone. But I want a new Android HTC phone to play with, I think I'll buy a Nexus One or something.
Hello. I've been running CM6 for quite awhile, and wanted to try something different.
I flashed LiquidSense, and it's ok, but, it has some quirks, and since it is not going to be changed or updated anymore at all, I'm looking for something else.
I'm not into a Beta, or something that is just a trial, I want an operational everyday ROM. I don't know much about odex and de-odex, so I suppose if I don't know it doesn't matter which I have.
I'm running Firerat's partion mod, so I would just have to adjust my sizes to accommodate the new Sense ROM's size like I did for LiquidSense, so that isn't a problem.
Any suggestions? I still want to be rooted, so, I definitely do not want to RUU back to stock.
Thanks.
Gingerbread. I use aospCMod, it's amazing.
EDIT: huh, well you can't see post titles on the xda app, so I missed the "sense" rom part, nevermind. There are sense themes for cm7, but not a newer sense rom that's full featured - yet.....
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i hear the gumbo 1.5 rom is really fast try that one
Hi there, I have an Incredible S with Android 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1. It was originally locked to Virgin (canada) but I unlocked it and now it's on Rogers. The phone says there is no software updates.
It gets the job done as basically all I'm using it for is text and phone.
I am a complete newbie and know nothing about RUU's, radios, kernels, and other stuff I've read on here.
I have seen many threads about people having upgraded to ICS and find their phones laggy, the screen gets stuck, ect.
My question is, if you have upgraded, was it worth it, or do you wish you never had done it?
I would enjoy having the latest, but not very technical inclined.
Thanks, and I appreciate you feedback.
If you're happy stay where you are.
I have tried most of the roms and some are laggy some are not. I'm on Nik's Project X with the Redux kernal and love it. Ice cream sandwich is a lot nicer to use than Gingerbread, easier to look at and a lot easier to set up to suit what you want.
But again it really is personal preference.
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Yeah, it really is personal preference.
I am currently on Nik Project X and it is running extremely smoothly...
I guess the only reason you would like to upgrade to ics is purely for compatibility, as much of the newer apps are going to jellybean and ics, rather than gingerbread. The official OTA was quite laggy when i got it, so i rooted and switched to a custom rom. Also, if you install a custom radio, network signal could dramatically increase or dramatically decrease. So beware what radio you are flashing. Also, flashing a radio is very risky, so beware!
In the end, it is your choice. If you are just using your phone purely for text and calling, then you can stick with gingerbread, but people like me who are using their phone and discovering it's capabilities, it is probably better if they upgrade..
I agree Pic.
My suggestion would be to install a good recovery. And make a nandroid backup. That way if it goes wrong you can go back to where you were!
Then load a rom in and play. I could never in back to 2.3! Or even sense 2.
And yes, Project X is smooth and to my way much better.
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Depends on the ROM. I'm on MIUI GB and recently tried MIUI v4 only to find it a laggy POS for the most part. From what I understand the stock ICS ROMs that are rolling out from most manufacturers can be quite laggy. I think this is something to do with how ICS manages memory. Custom ROMs can get around this, so it'd be worth experimenting.
Compatibility probably won't be an issue for the time being. I seem to recall that something like 80% of Android phones are still on Gingerbread, so making an app only run on ICS or JB would seriously limit your market.
Regarding flashing a new radio I'd say that, unless you have good reason to want to change (really poor signal etc), I wouldn't bother. I'm not sure the risks outweigh the reward, if everything is fine with the version you already have.
Put it this way - the reason I rooted my phone was because HTC updated the ROM and my phone ground to a halt. Flashing a custom ROM transformed my phone back into a speedy machine, and added a whole bunch of additional functionality that I now can't live without!
Fair enough,
If u do not want to flash a custom rom, then u can flash a stock rom.. For some reason it is quicker than ota and it maintains s-off...
Your choice in the end buddy
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Thanks for the responses and experiences guys!
I guess I'll stick with what I have until I've done more reading and am more confident.
Thanks again
funlog said:
Hi there, I have an Incredible S with Android 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1. It was originally locked to Virgin (canada) but I unlocked it and now it's on Rogers. The phone says there is no software updates.
It gets the job done as basically all I'm using it for is text and phone.
I am a complete newbie and know nothing about RUU's, radios, kernels, and other stuff I've read on here.
I have seen many threads about people having upgraded to ICS and find their phones laggy, the screen gets stuck, ect.
My question is, if you have upgraded, was it worth it, or do you wish you never had done it?
I would enjoy having the latest, but not very technical inclined.
Thanks, and I appreciate you feedback.
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There are no "over the air" (OTA) updates from Bell/Virgin, but HTC have released an ICS update on their developer site:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/10/02/h...for-incredible-s-users-on-its-developer-site/
Just filter on device "Incredible S", carrier "HTC" and region "CA". The downloaded file is an RUU, which will do all the work of updating your phone to Android 4.0.4 and Sense 3.6.
I applied the update yesterday without any issue, though did a full reboot (remove battery) in order to clear out some initial sluggishness.
FWIW, my thoughts:
+ new text message conversation UI is nice, with each message in it's own little piece of paper
+ text message timestamps are correct on rogers (i.e. don't need to download "SMS time fix")
- some of the animations are a little overdone
= the tile-based approach to rendering pages means initial loads are blurry, but scrolling is fine once the page has finished rendering
++ no Bell bloatware
+ new gmail app is much much better
- not sure I like the new phone answer/decline UI when the screen is locked
+ htc mail app handles multiple accounts better than the gingerbread version, though now that the gmail app is usable, this isn't a big deal for me
- htc calendar widget is white text on black background, I preferred the old version
- lost access to various htc-specific apps/widgets, so you'll need to find replacements on the play store
+ play store app replaces the market
Overall, I'm happy with the update.
This old preview will give you an idea of what Sense 3.6 looks like: http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/13/htc-sense-3-6-preview/
Go for Nik Project X,
Even though you are light user (like me), you will enjoy very light and smooth user interface and also sense 4.0
Also, ICS will come with all its hidden benefits...no need to list down I guess....
I also have a Virgin Mobile IncS unlocked and now on the Rogers network. I'm currently using Nik's IncS Jellybean rom and it has been incredibly stable for me and I am using it as my daily rom. It's not perfect, but it's an excellent rom.
If you're concerned about the feedback on ICS/Jellybean, but still want to explore rooting, why don't you try some of the Gingerbread roms? CM-7.2 is one of the most stable roms out there and has quite a few features that are not present in the stock rom. If you don't want to lose Sense, there are quite a few roms in development that might meet your needs. There are even a few that are based on the official ICS rom.
Hi guys, well I bit the bullet and loaded the stock ics ruu from htc site. Have not rooted or s-off yet as I don't feel confident enough yet.
So far, about a week in and it is very fast. I have to admit, I don't notice too much of a difference because I am such a basic user.
But it has got rid off quite a few things I never used, so it is leaner. So I'm happy I did it, and want to thank everyone for their opinions and help. :good: