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Stock ROM - 1.5 vs 2.1 ??

I bought my gf a Sprint Hero to see if she likes using Android. Might buy an Evo or whatever comes next if she likes the platform (this is her first smartphone, I've been using them for a loooong time - since the iPaq days!)
Anyway, the used one I bought her has stock 1.5 ROM on it, and I know that the Sprint 2.1 ROM is also available. I've searched all over and see mixed opinions on if its worth upgrading or not. A lot of bugs seem to crop up in the 2.1 version, but also some new features and better app compatibility in the market.
I'm a long-time HTC device user, but always WinMo, so I'm no stranger to flashing/modding etc. But I don't want to get into that at all with her phone, she'll get angry if I try to do something and then something else breaks, so I just want whatever stock ROM "just works" best. I don't want to have to "maintain" this device.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks in advance.

Hi there. As far as what "just works"...I have used both 1.5 and 2.1 stock...some people have experienced multiple problems. I used 2.1 stock for awhile before rooting...and quite honestly, the only problems I had was occasional lag...not drastic like some have reported....and rapid battery drain. I've since rooted 2.1 and use an overclocked kernel. Now, with GPS location off (still use cell service loc.), and no task killer whatsoever...i get almost 24 hours of battery with moderate to high usage. I experience no lag whatsoever. And, quite honestly, the rooting process and installing the OC'd kernel are VERY easy. I don't know about your girlfriend, but the skeptics I know...given a few days running straight stock unrooted...came back in a couple days begging me to root and make their Hero "run like mine".

Thanks for the info. I might go that route. Are you running a ROM with Sense? Did you just root the stock Sprint Sense ROM and OC it?
Any more help would be appreciated, like I said I've done a lot of ROM flashing and modding in the past but always on WinMo, I'm new to Android but have been reading up on these forums so I think I have a good sense of what needs to be done now. I'm not afraid of rooting / flashing processes, but I really don't want to put on ROMs where little weird glitches are going to piss her off. I don't mind dealing with that on my own phone, but this really does need to be a one-time job where I can just had it off to her and never have to deal with it again

I am running a ROM with Sense. It's the actually the HTC ROM that has been rooted. Here is a link to the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267 It runs sweet. I also formatted the stock 2gb SD card to ext for use with Apps2SD and it worked flawlessly after flashing the ROM. There are plenty of straightforward instructions here in this forum. Like I said, I think your g/f will be very pleased with the speed and battery life using this message. I flash a couple roms now and then to try something new, but always come back to this 'cuz it "just works".

1.5 is faster & more stable imo...but outdated. 2.1 provides a few new features but it's really up to her which one she wants to use. try them both out.
for 2.1 id use the stock rooted sprint rom
for 1.5 id suggest the pancake rom.

If you flash one of the OC kernels, just know that not all phones can handle the OC speeds, especially on bootup. If you decide to flash an OC kernel, MAKE SURE you nandroid backup first in case that phone goes into bootloops or freezes after the new kernel. Start with the 691mhz one just to test, then if all is good you can move up to 710mhz or 768mhz if you want more.
Also, to answer your initial question, I personally think stock 2.1 is much better overall than 1.5. Without even considering OC kernels, extra apps, widgets, etc....Android 1.5 didn't even have native CDMA support, so it had to contain a lot more code/tweaking for our Sprint build, which is why it runs so slowly and laggy. 2.1 includes CDMA support which automatically makes the code smaller and it means the OS automatically runs more quickly and smoothly on almost all HTC Heroes.
The only big consistent issue I've heard of on stock 2.1 is terrible Bluetooth functionality. Most other issues are hit or miss cases that aren't very common.
Hope this helps.

Thanks for the info, this has all been helpful.
To update, I dove in and just updated to the latest 2.1 Sprint official ROM (.6). I don't really think she has a current need to be rooted, as she doesn't use many apps, and doesn't need tethering.
If the need arises in the future for these things, I'll just flash the ROM linked above, or flash back to .5, root, and re-flash. Maybe by then there will be a root for .6 anyway and it will be even easier yet.
I'd also like to post my experience with 1.5 vs 2.1 I am not sure why everyone feels 2.1 is so much slower. I'm guessing it's because they haven't applied the .6 patch, which in addition to fixing the root exploit, also adds a bunch of speed enhancements in the UI.
2.1 is much faster on her phone than 1.5, especially scrolling in long lists, using the dialer, and even swiping between homescreens. She's quite happy with it, and I don't have to hack any fixes due to broken stuff in ROMs, so I'm happy too
I'm liking Android enough that I think I'm willing to buy another phone to play with, I got sick of dealing with flashing and hacking on my WinMo devices, so I went to iPhone. But I want a new Android HTC phone to play with, I think I'll buy a Nexus One or something.

Is there really any need to flash a custom Rom on the One?

Firstly, please don't get me wrong here. Im not trolling in the slightest and I really appreciate all the work the devs do here.
With the HTC One having such high specs is there really any need to flash custom Roms? In my opinion all of them seem the same and don't look or feel any different to the stock rom on the One. The only benefit I can see is for Root access.
Im sure there is a lot of "under the hood" tweaks that are done but are these really noticeable or beneficial to the end user? Other peoples thoughts would be interesting.

dr9722 said:
Firstly, please don't get me wrong here. Im not trolling in the slightest and I really appreciate all the work the devs do here.
With the HTC One having such high specs is there really any need to flash custom Roms? In my opinion all of them seem the same and don't look or feel any different to the stock rom on the One. The only benefit I can see is for Root access.
Im sure there is a lot of "under the hood" tweaks that are done but are these really noticeable or beneficial to the end user? Other peoples thoughts would be interesting.
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Actually yes, I wish to get CM working fully on HTC One.
It gives us an alternate experience than what HTC wanted us to.
Best of all, you don't have to wait so long for HTC to update their phones.
Especially when they abandon the One, we rely on CM.
But I'm really hoping for the success of the One, nobody could resist the look and feel of the One.

Livebyte said:
Actually yes, I wish to get CM working fully on HTC One.
It gives us an alternate experience than what HTC wanted us to.
Best of all, you don't have to wait so long for HTC to update their phones.
Especially when they abandon the One, we rely on CM.
But I'm really hoping for the success of the One, nobody could resist the look and feel of the One.
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I totally agree the updates and the benefit of getting rid on Sense if you dont like it is a real benefit. But is there a need for multiple Sense custom roms?

dr9722 said:
I totally agree the updates and the benefit of getting rid on Sense if you dont like it is a real benefit. But is there a need for multiple Sense custom roms?
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That's subjective I guess. But for something like example HTC DROID DNA or Butterfly, Sense 5 gets ported before HTC did. So I guess it's also a huge benefit.

Earlier updates is the main reason why I will be rooting, these phone networks take ages to update it's unavailable!!
Also there are some very nice skinned roms out there

I won't be unlocking my bootloader for a while. Not until I am at least sure that my device is working 100% and that will take a couple of weeks. I was eager to root it etc but I was reading about HTC's warranty and it seems as though it is a very long winded process. Maybe you wish to do the same?

m00moo said:
I won't be unlocking my bootloader for a while. Not until I am at least sure that my device is working 100% and that will take a couple of weeks. I was eager to root it etc but I was reading about HTC's warranty and it seems as though it is a very long winded process. Maybe you wish to do the same?
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yep ill be in no hurry either.
when i finally get a device im happy with yea i will root and flash custom rom, but not CM - Sense 5 is great and IMO is much better than stock JB - there are a few minor things I would like added, but I have no doubt they will be added to custom sense 5 roms in due course.

to me, there is no point in being a flashaholic. flash the latest stable base, and then keep up with custom kernels for battery.
thats me, idk bout u guys

Personally something that will push me over the unlock bootloader line is when either when A) IF the HTC logo can become mapped as a button, or B) A full relock becomes available lol

For me, absolutely. I consider some features (such as long press vol key to skip tracks) essential. There are also always some visual things I like to change no matter how well it is made

I just need root to enable volume key wake, and ill want to remap the keys. Everything else looks flawless
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do you need root etc. to install flash on ONE ?

ChazyChaz said:
do you need root etc. to install flash on ONE ?
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No. To my knowledge, the built in browser has flash support.

What about Wi-Fi hotspot support?
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While there's obviously no NEED, a lot of people will prefer to flash ROMs for a variety of different reasons.
I'd say the main reasons are;
*The ability to have a pure AOSP look which is preferred by a lot of people (especially those who come from a Nexus device). Also, a lot of people don't like the look/feel of Sense and will therefore want to change the UI to something which is more preferable to them.
I, for example, have never tried Sense before and could quite possibly hate it once I finally test it. On the flip side of that, I may love it but at least custom ROMs will give me the ability to completely change the UI whilst giving me a ton more customizations and optimizations than a custom launcher would do.
*As mentioned at the end of the first reason, customization is a huge part of what a lot of people do with their devices. For example, when I had my SGS2 I used to love the ability to flash a simple ROM and have a ton of customization at my fingertips, so I could edit the look of my phone to my hearts content.
*Some people are simply flashaholics and have ORD (Obsessive ROM-flashing/updating Disorder). I'll normally flash every ROM in sight if the device is new and there aren't many ROMs available yet. This way it gives me a good early decision as to what type of ROM I'd prefer on said device. However, once the device starts getting more development and more ROMs start appearing in quick succession, I'll then make my mind up about which ROM to choose and generally won't change ROM for the vast majority of the devices lifetime.
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I unlocked, rooted and flashed now because in a few months time the phone will be setup perfectly; all the right apps, all the right data, all in the right place (and HTC might of discovered a way to do a Sensation on us (S-Off))
With the phone rooted I can be relatively confident of getting it back to my currently backed up state after any major updates (and, when I finally install some games, get their progress restored as well)
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Sense means HTC. I don't see any reason to buy HTC if I'm not gonna use sense.

Because HTC makes great hardware. I buy HTC exclusively, but I rip sense off it ASAP and put AOKP or CM or something without sense. Nexus devices are generally not top of the line hardware, they're supposed to be a benchmark for development (i.e. midrange). That said, N4 has more impressive specs than usual, but I can't imagine buying an LG phone. I have never realized LG even made smartphones, only flip phones until the N4 was released.
Still, HTC makes best hardware, I just generally don't like sense. That said, sense 5 does look interesting.
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Having options is nice!
Dharkan said:
Sense means HTC. I don't see any reason to buy HTC if I'm not gonna use sense.
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To a certain extent, yes, I agree with you on that statement. However, sometimes you just need a change and it is nice to have the option of running AOSP roms as well. I would much rather go back and forth between Sense/AOSP than TouchWiz/AOSP after having my GS3.

No. Roms are for old devices. Lol
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[Q] HTC Incredible S S710e

Hi.
I have the above phone, which contrary to some posters I am actually happy with, at least I was until the last update notification which I received on Monday of this week.
I upgraded to version 4.10.405.1 (Ice Cream Sandwich I think?) thinking to myself that like PC's phones need updates too. My other software details are HTC Sense ver 3.6, and Android ver 4.0.4.
However, since updating my phone is now ridiculously slow. Example, when going from Settings back to the home screen I am now confronted with an extremely long pause coupled with a darkened / greyed out background screen with an oblong box which inside has "Loading" displayed with a round symbol which circles itself.
This has only happened since the up-date this morning, and Everything was running just Fine before this.
My phone is not bloated, and I don't have many apps on there, and I have not changed or added anything in around six weeks.
I know they release updates to improve things and or fix issues, but something has gone terribly wrong here to make my phone act like this. I even re-booted after the update, and even tried turning the phone off for a while, but none of these things has made any difference whatsoever.
All HTC support over the phone said was to run a "Factory reset" which did nothing.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Peterobertson said:
Hi.
I have the above phone, which contrary to some posters I am actually happy with, at least I was until the last update notification which I received on Monday of this week.
I upgraded to version 4.10.405.1 (Ice Cream Sandwich I think?) thinking to myself that like PC's phones need updates too. My other software details are HTC Sense ver 3.6, and Android ver 4.0.4.
However, since updating my phone is now ridiculously slow. Example, when going from Settings back to the home screen I am now confronted with an extremely long pause coupled with a darkened / greyed out background screen with an oblong box which inside has "Loading" displayed with a round symbol which circles itself.
This has only happened since the up-date this morning, and Everything was running just Fine before this.
My phone is not bloated, and I don't have many apps on there, and I have not changed or added anything in around six weeks.
I know they release updates to improve things and or fix issues, but something has gone terribly wrong here to make my phone act like this. I even re-booted after the update, and even tried turning the phone off for a while, but none of these things has made any difference whatsoever.
All HTC support over the phone said was to run a "Factory reset" which did nothing.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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One word answer to your problem here : Sense

well... I got my incredible S this last monday, with stock rom and latest update done.
In fact, it's just the same as yours...
I don't find it too slow, but I don't know how it behaved before... what I do notice is that the battery only lasts for about 13~14hours, with wi-fi, bluetooth, gps disconected. Lot's of text messages though...
How's yours on battery?
Sorry for the hi-jack on the thread

ntmm said:
well... I got my incredible S this last monday, with stock rom and latest update done.
In fact, it's just the same as yours...
I don't find it too slow, but I don't know how it behaved before... what I do notice is that the battery only lasts for about 13~14hours, with wi-fi, bluetooth, gps disconected. Lot's of text messages though...
How's yours on battery?
Sorry for the hi-jack on the thread
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Hahahaha its not the same as mine. As you seen mines is rooted and im running a custom ROM It would probably be in your best benefit to do so as well.
and in all honesty our phones arent all too well equipped to run ICS. Slap on Sense and youre in for a phone to get slow real fast. In my opinion the Inc S could run Gingerbread and Sense 2.(something lol) decently fine but with some lag.

072665995 said:
One word answer to your problem here : Sense
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Ermm, without wishing to sound ungrateful, could you elaborate on this please.
I'm ok when it comes to PC's for troubleshooting, building etc, but I'm new to the whole phone side of things, so in simple form would be most welcome.
Thanks.

@ 072665995 :
I was talking to Peterobertson =D
But thank you for your input

Peterobertson said:
Ermm, without wishing to sound ungrateful, could you elaborate on this please.
I'm ok when it comes to PC's for troubleshooting, building etc, but I'm new to the whole phone side of things, so in simple form would be most welcome.
Thanks.
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HTC Sense is an extreme resource hog. Just open up task manager or go to running apps in settings and RAM usage will be generally sitting at 350 or 400mb used. On top of that Sense takes up quite a bit of CPU power. All this results in maybe less battery to use (this really depends on how you use your phone). Furthermore, Sense can be at times, relatively unstable. I have had quite a good number of games crash because im pretty sure HTC made it so that the Rosie.apk is always running unlike maybe trebuchet or nova or apex (although you can set it so it runs in the foreground). So on top of sucking up a lot of power, the OS cannot kill Sense to allow more things to run at once and the last time i checked the Rosie could suck up somewhere around 40-50 mb. Add all the other applications, maybe widgets, other apps in more of a hibernation mode and you come up with that 400mb or RAM usage.
Of course theres also a ton of good things about Sense. In terms of widget, Sense really is king. You cant really beat them on that. The calender widget, the flip clock, all those goodies. Theres also a number of built in apps that might be useful like twitter, facebook, and even FM Radio (which is awesome cuz i listen to radio a lot, in fact its one of the few things make me wanna go back to Sense).

Hmm, OK, so there is nothing I can do then?
Surely there must be something. I was NOT having Any problems whatsoever, and let me make that perfectly clear so there is no confusion, NO issues at all before that so called update on Monday.
This is what is bothering me so much, and is something that I cannot get my head around. Everything and I mean everything was running just fine, and nice and fast too, with no pauses / lag etc, so I know it is the update that has done this because nothing else has changed. I have not added or removed anything for the past six weeks or so, and I am not really an "App" person if you know what I mean. I catch up with most of my friends on line using the PC and email etc, the phone is just secondary and is not the main tool I use.
I find it incredibly Arrogant of either HTC (It's their phone) or even Google (Don't they make the OS?) not to offer any backup or re-download scheme under a support link on either of their web sites in case anything goes wrong like this.
If this was a certain few software developers I can think of, then that is exactly what they would have in place just in case something goes wrong. We can even run system restore on Windows, roll back a driver, and in the case of most manufacturers we can re-download drivers etc going back two plus years, this is what makes this so bloody annoying and is really whizzing me off.
I had a perfectly good and functional mobile phone before an official update, but now I am left with a laggy, slow ass piece of crap that no one can do anything with and a manufacturer that just tells me to run a factory re-set, which anyone with a modicum of common sense knows will do Nothing at all after a firmware update because it is so deep rooted.
Way to go HTC. This will definitely make me want to buy another of your products
I wonder if the word "Customer Satisfaction" means anything in their little bubble world.

Unfortunatly a big percentage of the "tecs" at the support "team"/line don't know even 10% of what they are supposed to do, let alone know what people can do in most scenarios because the answer is not on the few post-its they have...
Nonetheless sometimes you get a tec that can help you...
I agree with you that you should be able to rollback from some updates, back to a more stable version, and that the updates shouldn't be definitive.
The system should be user friendly, not "geek-friendly", meaning that everyone should be able to do most things.
Apart from that, I can't say if my IncS is faster/slower/the same, I got it (used) on monday, connected it via wi-fi, went to see if there was any update, there was just only one, for the "customize" thing ( it's the painting pallet, where you go to choose the face, background, theme, etc) ...
My only complain as of now is the battery... how's the battery drain on yours?

"how's the battery drain on yours?"
Pretty crappy.
I sent a message to mwilky regarding this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334&highlight=htc+incredible+stock
I am hoping that some kind soul feels my frustration and helps. it would be great if my phone can run one of these faster software systems while still being able to use the usual apps such as camera etc.
As you agree with me, yes, there should be a tab on the support page on the HTC web site that has Drivers, Sense, Firmware etc and the facility to be able to roll back to a version that was working fine before they screwed everything up with their "Update"
Don't forget, my phone is not bloated with all sorts of stuff, and I run it very lean. I use it pretty much just as a phone.

Yeah, I use the phone mainly as a phone too...
Plus the casual e-mail, gaming, picture/video and music...
I got the phone so I could use it's functions whenever they're needed... so...
Yesterday I turned off a few things at the middle of the day and the battery lasted 15+ hours untill reaching 14%, that's when I went to bed and put it charge. will see today how it goes.
Though I'm yet to experience what you described that happened with yours... gutted for you =/

Peter
Agreed HTC doesn't offer a backup before one applies an update. If your phone is still under warranty and/or you don't want to root it, then the best option i see is to visit the customer care and get the ginger bread installed - make sure to sync your contacts and calendars..
On the other hand if you want to root it then the jellybean ROM available are pretty stable and fast...
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Im sure you can find a Gingerbread RUU. Sure htcdev.com no longer has the RUU's but hey, theres always google. I mean its not like its possible for HTC to shut down everything :laugh:
On the side note though, its probably most recommended to just root your phone and slap another ROM on. I used to be just like you. I absolutely HATED Sense but you goota give everything a shot to see where each ROM stands you know. Some of the devs here like Nikhil007mus and Alirez_sos and interaser have made their respective Sense ROMs very smooth and reliable (although Alirez's ROM has been shut down due to him supposedly kanging. Yes i support him that he isnt using stolen stuff).

I'm quite tired of my Inc S as well.
I tried to trade it for an iPhone 4- 16 gigs- lately. But without luck.
No stable Cm 9-10 so far, shipped with laggy firmware. It's time to invest some bucks in new hardware, there's no other solution...
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giudicealdo said:
I'm quite tired of my Inc S as well.
I tried to trade it for an iPhone 4- 16 gigs- lately. But without luck.
No stable Cm 9-10 so far, shipped with laggy firmware. It's time to invest some bucks in new hardware, there's no other solution...
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-_- you are aware that there are some great Sense ROMs out there that do not lag and are very much stable???

I'm running viverVivo at the moment. I'm enjoying it: really a great work. It's highly customizable, and I love to play with it. But I constantly have to kill apps, wipe everything, use seeder, play with the kernel settings...
And I still haven't found a good balance between battery life and smoothness... I must admit I'm quite a noob Anyway, despite the efforts of a great development community, this device is just old now... And as someone said some post above, is optimized for GB, ICS capable, and not able to run JB in a satisfying way.
Does anyone want my Inc S?
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giudicealdo said:
I'm running viverVivo at the moment. I'm enjoying it: really a great work. It's highly customizable, and I love to play with it. But I constantly have to kill apps, wipe everything, use seeder, play with the kernel settings...
And I still haven't found a good balance between battery life and smoothness... I must admit I'm quite a noob Anyway, despite the efforts of a great development community, this device is just old now... And as someone said some post above, is optimized for GB, ICS capable, and not able to run JB in a satisfying way.
Does anyone want my Inc S?
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Mmmm. The Incredible S is capable of running any Android OS. The only reason why it gets more difficult to run newer Android OS is because Android is packing more and more things into their operating system making it laggier. A great example is the difference between 2.3 and 4.0.4. There was quite a noticeable difference in speed because HTC decided to bloat their firmware (damn you HTC, damn you ) To your last comment, our phone is not capable of running JB in a satisfying way, thats not necessarily the case. I think you are referring to the number of bugs that come with AOSP builds for our device?? Theres bound to be issues because no one builds stock ROMs for our device due to aging. So theres the different CPUs and screen resolutions and all that stuff which isnt exactly fun to work with. If someone manages to successfully built a jellybean Sense ROM for our device (interaser certainly did a GREAT job with Viper based off of One X for sure), theres probably gonna be less bugs.

Giudicealdo, I don't agree in totality.. If you look at the dev forums, then 4.2.1: jelly time and one by lacoste and 4.2.2: pacman and one by lacoste are pretty stable and fast ROMs...
But yes i agree that the battery life is not as great ICS onwards as it was with GB...
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Hi again All.
WoW, some FANTASTIC ideas and inputs from everyone (did I just make up a new word - inputs)
Anyway, can I ask everyone a big favour please.
I am new to this kind of thing, and don't really understand all this stuff below >
ROM: RENOVATE Final 1 < Is this the operating system?
Android Version: 4.1.1 < Whats this?
Sense Version: 4+ < I kind of know what this is.
Build Number: 3.14.401.31 < No idea what this is.
Kernel: Stock JB < Nor this
Radio: 5.1204.162.29 < I only found out about this from the tech guy at Monkeymobile, But I sort of know what it is now.
So, with all of the above said, What are your recommendations for me to install on the phone?
ROM: < Which should I use
Android Version: < Which should I use
Sense Version: < Which should I use
Build Number: < Which should I use
Kernel: Stock < Which should I use
Radio: < Which should I use
Bearing in mind that I am looking for fluidity and speed, not that fussed about battery time, as I can charge it in the house, car, and at work, but just want something that's quick and not laggy, but the Camera must work as well as the Wi-Fi too.
Is there anything else I need to download, again, if there is can you make any recommendations please. And, is there anything else to worry about, for example this aerial business?
I know I am asking a lot, but, I do appreciate all the help from all of you.

Peterobertson said:
Hi again All.
WoW, some FANTASTIC ideas and inputs from everyone (did I just make up a new word - inputs)
Anyway, can I ask everyone a big favour please.
I am new to this kind of thing, and don't really understand all this stuff below >
ROM: RENOVATE Final 1 < Is this the operating system?
Android Version: 4.1.1 < Whats this?
Sense Version: 4+ < I kind of know what this is.
Build Number: 3.14.401.31 < No idea what this is.
Kernel: Stock JB < Nor this
Radio: 5.1204.162.29 < I only found out about this from the tech guy at Monkeymobile, But I sort of know what it is now.
So, with all of the above said, What are your recommendations for me to install on the phone?
ROM: < Which should I use
Android Version: < Which should I use
Sense Version: < Which should I use
Build Number: < Which should I use
Kernel: Stock < Which should I use
Radio: < Which should I use
Bearing in mind that I am looking for fluidity and speed, not that fussed about battery time, as I can charge it in the house, car, and at work, but just want something that's quick and not laggy, but the Camera must work as well as the Wi-Fi too.
Is there anything else I need to download, again, if there is can you make any recommendations please. And, is there anything else to worry about, for example this aerial business?
I know I am asking a lot, but, I do appreciate all the help from all of you.
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Peter,
My two cents:
First you need to decide whether you want to stick to sense ROMs, that is, HTC stock Roms or move to non-sense (0 ROMS..
Since you are on ICS - I would recommed you try IceColdSandwich 8.8 which is an amazing AOKP ROM
Further take a look at the below links to root your phone and find the list of custom ROMs (stock and otherwise)
Flashing phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
List of ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136463
Answering some of your questions (but you will have to read on google or xda forums - that helps most):
Android 4.1.1 is JellyBean; other versions of JellyBean are 4.2.1 and 4.2.2. Android 4.0.4 is IceCreamSandwich
Stock kernel: developers use the HTC kernel available with stock ROM. Some of them use the customized ones
Thus:
ROM: try all the flavours available and then stick to the one you like most. Some of the stable ones available are:
1. Gingerbread: ARHD ROM (Stock)
2. ICS: IceColdsandwich 8.3/8.8 (non stock), Niks (Stock)
3. JB 4.1.1: Lacoste's ROM
4. JB4.2.1: JellyTime by blindndumb and Lacoste's ROM
5. JB4.2.2: PACman v21 and Lacoste's ROM
Sense: depends on your taste; sense 4 is only available for ICS ROM and not for GB ROM. Personally I had stopped liking Sense since ICS update.. even though it offers some really good widgets but it restricts a user.. the AOKP and other ROMs offer a great deal of customization..
Kernel: ideally use the ones embedded in the ROM; you can however flash available kernels
Radio: Above link for flashing the ROM will give you an insight
Hope it helps

[Q] Just got my HTC ONE Dev Edition

Just got my HTC One Dev Edition yesterday, been playing with it all night and LOVE IT. I've been an android user for the past 3 years and have rooted, crack flashed all my phones, though I must admit I have slowed down with the flashing looking for more stability and just don't have time to research as much as I used to.
BUT this is the first phone that I don't feel the need to root and flash. I'm fully on stock for now and liking sense, but will install Nova for my configuration.
Got a couple of questions and want to know your opinion:
1) HTC Backup or leave it google backup
2) How are you liking blinkfeed? I'm loving it.
3) For HTC one email, do you leave it smartsync or push for work Exchange emails
4) Any tweaks or performance enhancements I should know of?
Thanks for any opinion!

Don't be in a hurry to make changes to it.
Take your time, get to know the phone as it shipped.
I starting hanging around these forums weeks before I first got my dev edition, then started chiming in on a lot of conversations but still didn't make a single change to the phone for a month.
What I learned during that time was how great this phone is out of box. So much activity around here is just so unnecessary. All the ROMs mods tweaks and especially the obsession with getting OTA updates before they are officially released to your particular model or country. Really?
I did every last thing a person can do to an Evo. I've done swap partitions, init.d scripts, smali edits, undrervolts, overclocks, kitchen cooked my own ROMs, run jelly bean on a phone that shipped with eclair, basically everything short of compiling my own kernel from source.
Why? because each one taught me something about android and occasionally - very occasionally - made a material improvement to the value I got out of the phone.
I have no such motivation on the One.
In four months the only change I've made to the phone that I feel like made any improvement was updating to a newer camera. Don't need root, don't need a recovery, don't need splash screens HBOOTs radios or firmwares and I sure as hell don't need a new CID. Honestly the only reason I did S-OFF is you never know when the exploits will get patched.
That's just one guy's feeling about the phone.
So my thought is take it slow. Hang around here awhile to see what is possible, what people care about, and use the phone for awhile to see if there's anything about it you just have to change.
You may be surprised how long it takes before you have to scratch the itch.
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Stock or custom?

Up top, this isn't a "best ROM" or "what should I run" sort of thread. It's also a topic that can easily provoke rage so please don't think that I'm trying to convince anyone of one thing or another. This is just me being curious.
After starting with Android a few years ago, I've noticed an increasing amount of "flashing fatigue" setting in lately. Sure, I'll root (because I have a lot of utility apps that require root), but the appeal of custom ROMs is fading fast. The Google Edition port was my latest (and longest standing) ROM for my One, and before that I'd tried one or two stock-derivative ROMs (save one bad AOSP experience back when we had sleep of death going on). I'm back to stock now, and trying a "fuller" experience (no launcher replacement, etc.-- minus root, again, for some XPosed tweaks like disabling the NFC icon).
This phone's now been out a while, so I'm curious: how many of you have "settled down" so to speak on one side or the other?

The first Android I owned was an Epic 4G and then Epic 4G Touch. Both left a ton to be deaired from a software standpoint and I easily flashed 3 dozen or more different roms between those two phones.
Flash forward to the HTC One and I've never felt the need to leave the stock ROM. I do use the Google Experience Launcher and have replaces some of the stock apps with better versions from 3rd party devs, but honestly I don't really see a point. Performance, battery life and functionality all seem to have hit a perfect balance with this phone. And like you suggested, the fatigue of flashing is really heavy these days especially since I'm not looking to fix a flaw or add a feature. Although once a working KitKat ROM hits us I will probably root and flash just to get a feel. Though admittedly I've always found the bone stock look of Android to be lacking visually.
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The very first phone I flashed over to a custom firmware was the LG G2X from T-Mobile. The android experience on that phone was very tasteless and bloated. Support from LG was less than non-existent. I found that I couldn't really stand using the phone on stock so I flashed a few different roms until I landed on eaglesblood. Although there was a lot broken on eaglesblood, I found it an upgrade to stock. Fast forward like Adam described and I have been on the HTC One for nearly 6 months. In that time I have flashed perhaps a few custom roms. In the end, I reverted back to stock. The One is a solid phone from both a software and hardware stand-point. I find myself checking my BlinkFeed a few times an hour and if I am on a senseless ROM I feel lost without it.
Tl;dr I have no need to ever leave stock. Stock rooted is good enough for me.
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I've been running RageOne and have found it to be more than enough from what I need for my HTC one

Same here. I started with Hero, then Evo Shift, Evo 3D, Evo 4G LTE and now The One. I previously always rooted and flashed multiple roms until found one that like and stable enough for daily use. With the One, I honestly haven't done nothing to it. I find it prefect for everyday use. No problem was so ever. At times I feel weird because I never had an HTC or android phone for less than a week without rooting it and etc, but with the One no need since good as is.
I know also pending amount of developers we have currently since most leave to develop in other phones or carrier based phone model is what we can choose from roms available which is less than the other carrier model.
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The HTC One is my first non Nexus smartphone, so dealing with all the bloat that comes with Sense and stock has been hard for me. When I was using my Nexus S 4G I used Slim Rom and loved it for its minimal nature and stuck with it. Slim bean 4.3 stable has been a great rom for me, though now that the 4.4 builds are out I've found them more suitable for a daily driver. Slimkat is awesome and I personally cant wait for it to reach stable. Minimal is my cup of tea, add in Google Experience Launcher and I'm one happy guy.

I had a Hero, then a whole bunch of Shift4G's. Rooted all of those because I could make them noticeably faster, increase the battery life, and get rid of apps I didn't use.
With the One, it's already fast enough that I wouldn't notice an increase much. The battery life is great for the way I use it, I recently had a stretch that was nearly 40 hours off the charger (obviously I didn't use it a heck of a lot during that time). And being able to hide the apps I don't want from the app drawer means I forget they're even there. Because of that, I haven't seen a good reason to put a different ROM on this phone...yet