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i have had my ATT N1 for a few months now and all has been great. I rooted awhile back and have been using Cyanogen 5.0.7 to great success. I have the pershoot kernal and never really had any issues.
Well, that has all changed. Recently I have been rebooting any many different occasions. It almost always does it when I am in Maps and navigation, which is not good because I need it in my life having relocated.
I have decided that maybe I will look to update my Cyanogen or maybe go over to 2.2. I did this today and still having these issues. I tried Kang and it still rebooted randomly and when I tried Modacos r17 it just would keep rebooting at the setup screen. I think that has to do with not having the stock kernal.
Any clues as to what is happening? I really need help and do not want to stop using Android, but I need my phone to be reliable.
If it happens on any ROM and with no correlation to anything - sounds like HW problem.
Did you use overclocked kernel?
I do have a overclocked under volted kernal
sounds like bad sw. get back to stock 2.1 update 1 (if you can) and see if your phone is stable...
WIPE all ( everything ) , and flash 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692609
Follow those 3 easy steps there !
Does your phone lock up (unresponsive) before rebooting?
Phone doesnt lock up. I tried wiping evertyhing but could not wipe the sd partition. Is that necessary? I have done full wipe's (data, dalvik, & cache) and still had similar results. I have updated my kernal to the newest pershoot and I installed Kang .9b1 and so far have only had 1 rebbot. It happened when I was in the browser and went to a flash heavy site to see how it worked. Is there any 2.2 roms that keep it close to stock? I am not a total fan of adw launcher.
Have a look in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703687
I'm really determined to figure out what is causing this issue for so many people! I've managed to cure my reboots for the time being, and it seems it is kernel related. That said, we need as many people as possible to give feedback as experiences seem to differ in regards to the ROMs and Kernels people are using.
Regards.
I looked over that thread and see some similarities but it is still not totally consistent with my issues. I am running Kang now fine but still have reboots that I won't call so random anymore. It happens when I use Maps for the first time, and definitely when I go to a flash site on the browser.
I cannot successfully use any other ROM since once I install it it goes into boot loop. This is driving me crazy and do not like the thought of being stuck to one ROM since it is the complete reason I bought this phone.
Ok so this is my first post here, and I'm sort of a noob so I'm sorry if these questions are too noobish...
First, I rooted my HTC hero last night, but I tried to install the rom (fresh 2.3.3) before wiping so I got stuck in this perpetual loop of the startup screen, had to wait until the phone ran out of battery and then did a wipe of data/ext and rebooted. Everything worked fine from there, and it seems to be working normally, BUT I'm wondering if this means everything installed correctly, or if I should just go through the process again.
Second, when I connect my phone to the computer I notice that I have the .zip of the image still in my phone's root. Can I delete this or is it necessary for the phone's function?
Third, are there any other roms people would suggest? I like vanilla android (not a sense fan), and I heard of a rom called Darchdroid. I was wondering how this stacks up to fresh 2.3.3...I'm looking for the smoothest experience possible (not a fan of the minor lag that happens in fresh)
And fourth, if I decide I want to get rid of Fresh and try a new rom, what is the procedure for wiping my phone clean and installing the new rom? (sorta noobish I know...)
Dr. Falken said:
Ok so this is my first post here, and I'm sort of a noob so I'm sorry if these questions are too noobish...
First, I rooted my HTC hero last night, but I tried to install the rom (fresh 2.3.3) before wiping so I got stuck in this perpetual loop of the startup screen, had to wait until the phone ran out of battery and then did a wipe of data/ext and rebooted. Everything worked fine from there, and it seems to be working normally, BUT I'm wondering if this means everything installed correctly, or if I should just go through the process again.
Second, when I connect my phone to the computer I notice that I have the .zip of the image still in my phone's root. Can I delete this or is it necessary for the phone's function?
Third, are there any other roms people would suggest? I like vanilla android (not a sense fan), and I heard of a rom called Darchdroid. I was wondering how this stacks up to fresh 2.3.3...I'm looking for the smoothest experience possible (not a fan of the minor lag that happens in fresh)
And fourth, if I decide I want to get rid of Fresh and try a new rom, what is the procedure for wiping my phone clean and installing the new rom? (sorta noobish I know...)
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a bit noobish myself, but I think I can answer a bit regardless, anyone feel free to correct me...
1: if everything is working, great! if you dont feel comfortable, and dont mind resetting everything up, go ahead, do it again, cant hurt. whenever reflashing/new flashing, Dont Forget to make a nandroid and wipe! (and you can rename the backups in USB disk mode so you know which ones are what, otherwise go by the embedded date in the autogen'd title. in the nandroid folder on your SD card btw)
2: as far as I know, leave it?
3: HUGE fan of Darchs work, cant go wrong... keep in mind it does not have VisVoicemail in it, fix flash needed.
4: reboot into recovery, make a nadroid backup, WIPE!, flash the new one according to cookers intructions! done! (if ya dont like it, buggy, nandroid restore back to your last good one you did like!)
well I reinstalled the rom and wiped first...and everything is running way smoother than last time. I don't know what in the world happened or what was going on but I'll take it as it is
Hi there.
First off, please forgive my posting this thread into the general, but I'm still restricted to posting replies in the dev subsection where the Darky thread is at.
I'm a Bell vibrant user, and I'm having big issues with Darky's 9.0.2; my first custom ROM.
I updated from ugjl2, so I have the sbl.bin that [hopefully] avoids the corrupt SD issue.
I downloaded darky and speedmod kernel to get a CWM. I flashed the speedmod with ODIN fine. I then added the ROM to my internal SD and used CWM to apply it. All went well. I used the full wipe ROM.
Now that I'm running Darky's though, it's wonderfully smooth and responsive except that every once in a while, when I press the BACK button, it just hangs.... for like, 45-120 seconds or more. I get impatient and hit HOME and it snaps a screenshot; as if I were pressing both buttons simultaneously. Locking the screen with the power button then unlocking seems to help most, but not all of the time.
Is this because I'm using the VooDoo kernel (default option) without applying the VooDoo lagfixes? Darky states that this ROM automatically uses the ext4 filesystem, which should negate the need for the voodoo lagfix. Would I be better off to just apply the default lagfixes in CWM or reflash with the speedmod kernel selected in darky's configurator?
What are other culprits that could cause he otherwise fast system to hang on pressing back.... there doesn't seem to any pattern to when it happens that I can find... but it does happen quite a bit.
I searched the forums for this, but found no hits, any help is appreciated and TYIA.
You can grab the "android Terminal emulater " from market .. Type in "mount " and See your partitions and filesystems.. i dont think the default is ext4, its rfs..
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You're absolutely right.
All of my partitions seem to be RFS.
Odd though because in the features section of darky's thread it says explicitly that it converts all partitions to ext4. Oh well.
What's the recommendation then? Shouldn't RFS also not require lagfixing? I thought it was the samsung ext2 partitions that caused the lag.
In any case, this doesn't feel like regular lags, the system straight up hangs on pressing the back button sometimes.
ieatrocks,
I would check that the lagfix is installed.
I upgraded to Darky's v8.1 on Sunday just before v9.0 came out. v8.1. did not have lagfix installed by default so I manually ran through CWM which is there is an option to run. This made things smoother.
I then flashed to v9.02 this morning and it feels faster and smoother. My understanding is that you do not need to uninstall lagfixes and not that it is automatically installed but please check in CWM. I think the only option to convert is ext4. RFS is the laggy one which is why it converts to ext4. I also enabled all of the recommended tweaks.
Hopefully, this will give you what you expect as the experience is great for me.
Ok, trying both voodoo default options now. Will report back in a few. Thanks.
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Not 100% gone but a *whole* lot better.
Thanks
I noticed the very odd stutter but not as bad as you mentioned. Have you checked the recommended tweaks? Other option is a wipe if possible. For me, this is a whole lot better than I've ever had
I'm surprised, running Darky's new rom and don't have any lags. I'm not running any lagfixes since android 2.2.1 therefore still on the RFS.
I'm using speedmod kernel though, I had some reboot problem with voodoo on Darky 8.0 . Maybe you should try to fully wipe it clean and reinstall after backing up your data, that's what i usually do, it's better to start fresh!
Demeryus
does any know how to change the color of text from green to default , in the messaging app?
i think your back button gets stuck, because you have mentioned that if you press the home key, it takes a screenshot.
i think somebody else had this problem too. he solved it by some way but i cant remember where it was right now.
just use the search option for 'back button stuck'.
hope it helps.
edit: i think he updated his touchkey firmware by a secret code but i am not sure.
mate....
your post should be deleted...
The Rom doesn't apply by him self any lag fixer.
Use the configurator with option WIPE, reapply Darky Rom and them post issues...
There is a reason why you are not allowed in developer section...
Read the post and use the F******ING SEARCH FUNCTION
keno_ro said:
mate....
your post should be deleted...
The Rom doesn't apply by him self any lag fixer.
Use the configurator with option WIPE, reapply Darky Rom and them post issues...
There is a reason why you are not allowed in developer section...
Read the post and use the F******ING SEARCH FUNCTION
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I used the search function. Do you have any idea how many false hits about generic lags I got? I spent a couple of hours looking before posting my detailed situation here.
Darky's by default uses the full wipe option if you're on any rom other than a previous version of Darky's; so my install was a full WIPE. I stated that pretty obviously in my first post. Why you would fly off the handle and start cursing out new users without having the common courtesy or sense to actually read what they wrote before presenting yourself as some sort of rageaholic on a forum is just bizarre.
Thanks to the guy who suggested I look into the firmware update; I can run with that.
NoobProof said:
i think your back button gets stuck, because you have mentioned that if you press the home key, it takes a screenshot.
i think somebody else had this problem too. he solved it by some way but i cant remember where it was right now.
just use the search option for 'back button stuck'.
hope it helps.
edit: i think he updated his touchkey firmware by a secret code but i am not sure.
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Found that thread and everything is fixed now!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869492
Updated my firmware in Darky's and lost both buttons, Turned off the lagfixes, flashed back to ugjl2, updated the touchkey firmware, reflashed speedmod for CWM, and finally re-applied Darky's with a full wipe.
Perfect!
No lagfixes applied on this fresh install yet and everything is working great.
Gave you thanks on the post for the tip.
fllipper said:
does any know how to change the color of text from green to default , in the messaging app?
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nobody ? please maybe an ideea?
Thanks for the nice thread title
Seriously, I never said I support the i9000M.
Darkyy said:
Thanks for the nice thread title
Seriously, I never said I support the i9000M.
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Hahahaha oh man, I wasn't trying to cast gloom on your awesome ROM Darkyy.
The touchkey firmware hang/lag and fix weren't related to your ROM at all. It looks like it would have happened anyways no matter which ROM I used, I just happened to pick yours.
...which I am enjoying a lot btw. Thanks for all the hard work
EDIT: I found out how to change my thread title, so no more false bad advertising for Darkyy.
keno_ro said:
mate....
There is a reason why you are not allowed in developer section...
Read the post and use the F******ING SEARCH FUNCTION
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Dude... chill out.. what you getting so upset about.. he's asking a question so he's in the right place, we all started off newbies needing some guidance, Its not the end of the world no body forced u to read / reply to this thread.. jeeez.. go take yourself for a long walk.. of a short pier...
soo... :-" has any of you guys come up with an ideea to change the green text from the messaging app back to normal ? pls?
fllipper that should be handled by the theme. AFAIK any deodexed rom can be updated with themes that alter the look including the color and text schemes of the default apps that you normally can't change.
The right place to ask this is in the themes and apps subforum. I may be completely wrong with the theme advice, but I'm reasonably sure there is an entire subforum dedicated to questions like yours.
Having forced my phone to take JPY from Keis, using the registry hack, occasionally after turning off my phone, on the next restart, the phone vibrates at various points, with warnings that several different apps have had problems and have to close, and after this some apps just wont run when started manually either. If I remove the apps and reinstall, I still get the same problem. The only way I can get back to normality is to go into recovery and restore to factory settings and start my install again. Does anyone know why this is happening? My phone is rooted. I have tried fix permissions from Rom manager, but this has not helped.Its happened about 3 times now, Most times restarting has been fine.
I would like to try and install clock work mod so that I can at least backup, so if this happens again, I'm covered for the majority of the reinstall, but The Rom manager Clockwork recovery does not install on this rom ( so I believe, it does not appear anyway)
Does any one know if I am OK to install the Clockwork mod from here, that has been linked to in some of the custom rom threads, and if not, how can I get clockwork on my phone? If I do install clockwork, does this mean I can no longer install new roms with Keis?
http://koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.2-galaxys.zip
I wasn't sure if to put this thread in the general section or development for a best response. Sorry If I have picked the wrong area, but thought it was people from the Dev section that would more understand what I need to do
Thanks
you have kinda almost the same problem as this guy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937938 (his reinstalling helped though)
yeah thanks, doesnt quite sound the same, I never got a black screen. Always boots, but reports various apps have problems and closes them down.
Well still I do think something is not right with the either JPY or the HW. Cuz it started few days/weeks ago. I was for 2 months a happy user. Then it was sudden with those FC... Factory Reset etc
Something about a conspiracy theory:
I kinda suspect that there was either a google apps update or samsung one, the kind that you dont see , like when it updates the market. And it messed something up .
Hey all. Just joined the forums a few minutes ago and I have a burning question on why it is necessary to flash back to stock with odin before you try different roms. Why can you not just boot into clockwork, factory wipe, wipe cache, wipe d cache and then simply load the new rom from sd? The reason I ask is because I have been bouncing between cognition and paragon for about 2 weeks now NOT using the method of flashing back to stock 2.1 without a single problem. I'm sure there is a good reason flashing back to 2.1 before trying new roms, I would just like to know why. I was able to preform a stock wipe using odin3 one time last week (just did it to make sure the phone would do it) it just seems like a really long process, but I'll start doing it that way to avoid a brick.
Thanks
to be safe, and some roms mod files that others dont, some roms depend on apps and files in the stock rom that might be different or not there at all in other roms.
long process? extra 5 minutes when you get used to it. if you are ATT use ODIN ONE CLICK to restore stock 2.1 (hint: it takes one click)
For the most part, you don't really need to flash back to stock. It used to be a bigger deal to flash back to stock because some of the Roms would intervene with each other and mess things up. It is still recommened for a clean flash, but I rarely do it and my flashes work great.
EDIT: @Trusselo: damn it! Second time someone beat me to the answer tonight!
HAHA
and forget ODIN ONE CLICK !!
i keep forgetting about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944418
ALL IN ONE CAPTIVATE TOOLBOX
I have been trying roms weekly since November and have only needed to flash to stock twice, after failed flashes caused by my lack of patience. YMMV of course
jayjr1105 said:
Hey all. Just joined the forums a few minutes ago and I have a burning question on why it is necessary to flash back to stock with odin before you try different roms. Why can you not just boot into clockwork, factory wipe, wipe cache, wipe d cache and then simply load the new rom from sd?
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It's not necessary and not even a good idea. Also, why wipe cache and d-cache when the install script does that?
Trusselo said:
to be safe, and some roms mod files that others dont, some roms depend on apps and files in the stock rom that might be different or not there at all in other roms.
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ROMs don't mod or use any files which are on the phone prior to installing them. All the files on your phone after the install were in the CWM flashable zip file. Any ROM cook would be stupid to do otherwise. The exception would be no-wipe ROMs, but you would never flash to stock before using one of those.
Ive also wondered this as well and talking to guys like opcow, and a couple other Devs such as MikeyMike and a lot of guys at the Andromeda IRC they all agree that you should be perfectly fine now as long as you wipe everything before you flash.
I may try with Andromeda when I get home because I have my PC and Jig there just in case but still may try now. But also tlaking to a lot of users that they dont even do it anymore now because of the install scripts and as Opcow said if you think logically its technically safer.
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long process? extra 5 minutes when you get used to it. if you are ATT use ODIN ONE CLICK to restore stock 2.1 (hint: it takes one click)
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Actually thats not true at all.
If your a build 1009 and under you can use the one click. Although the build 1008 sometimes have problems.
But for the Build 1010's and up (like me) you have to use Odin3 and take a good 30-40 minutes just to get to JH7 because half of the time I lose my 3 buttons then have to push the 3 button fix over via ADB. I have gotten use it and its a pain in the ass.
And the time I listened to someone that says ALL ATT people can use the one click it completely ****ed my phone and if I didnt have a jig my phone would have been completely screwed up.
Im not trying to be rude im just saying I saw a post very similar to that a couple weeks ago and it came very close to completely bricking my phone and reading posts here now saying they have the same problem and if they dont have a jig they just got a 200 dollar paper weight.
Sorry for getting off topic back to topic today Im going to flash Andromeda over Darkyy 9.3 and wipe data cache and d cache in CWM and see how it goes although everyone and even the devs and a lot of users now a days say it should work perfectly.
Dlev7 said:
Actually thats not true at all.
If your a build 1009 and under you can use the one click. Although the build 1008 sometimes have problems.
But for the Build 1010's and up (like me) you have to use Odin3 and take a good 30-40 minutes just to get to JH7 because half of the time I lose my 3 buttons then have to push the 3 button fix over via ADB. I have gotten use it and its a pain in the ass.
And the time I listened to someone that says ALL ATT people can use the one click it completely ****ed my phone and if I didnt have a jig my phone would have been completely screwed up.
Im not trying to be rude im just saying I saw a post very similar to that a couple weeks ago and it came very close to completely bricking my phone and reading posts here now saying they have the same problem and if they dont have a jig they just got a 200 dollar paper weight.
Sorry for getting off topic back to topic today Im going to flash Andromeda over Darkyy 9.3 and wipe data cache and d cache in CWM and see how it goes although everyone and even the devs and a lot of users now a days say it should work perfectly.
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+1 Guys if you don't know exactly what to do/suggest please don't say it. I'm not trying to start a war, but a wrong suggestion can easily soft or hard brick someones phone. This is a forum, so no one can stop you from saying things, but think about if it happened to you? You would be pissed!
Anyways back on topic, what model phone do you have, because having a 1009 model phone makes flashing and going back to stock (usually) so much easier. But then again, I rarely use odin because all the roms are compatible for the most part.
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I've never used ODIN because I haven't wanted to try to run it from GNU/Linux in a virtual box.
I just wipe and flash from clockwork like the op. Been flashing roms for a couple months now, never had a single problem. (except when I noobed it up by trying to flash back to a nandroid backup via Rom Manager. Even then, didn't need Odin to sort it out).
If I ever run into a problem, then I'll try Odin, but I'm waiting to cross that bridge till I come to it.
To prevent exceptions or troubles from the version you already have... so everybody comes from the same rom, understand?
I flash to jf6 because that's what I have been conditioned to do for a while. However, the few times I was impatient and didn't....no problems either.
From all the reading I've done here, the only reason to do it is for the placebo effect.
There was once a time when all the new roms were built on the unofficial froyo and it only had 3e recovery. The quickest way to get around that was to flash stock. Also the lag fixes were tricky and easily fixed by flashing stock. Now recovery is in the kernel. As long as you insure the kernal lag fix in rom A understands the kernal lag fix in rom B flash away. Nandroid backups are kind of useless they don't backup the kernal or the modem. Save odin for when things go really wrong(;~ )
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I have done it both ways, and there its no difference going back to stock and or flashing over other roms. I flash often, have not got stick in boot loop in months
I like to go back to stock since I KNOW that everything has been defaulted back to normal. Just a security blanket step for me.
I flashed andromeda over darkyy 9.3 just wiping data cache and d cache. Nothing wrong. Everything worked perfect so I got to believe that if you just wipe everything it should work perfectly.
Just for safety I got a jig and odin but for now I'm saving a good 45 minutes to not flash back to stock
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