I have the Tasker App that I made Tasks to Turn GPS On/Off as needed by various Apps and I also set a Task to Turn WiFi On/Off as needed. I am also running Juice Defender is this "Over Kill" to run both these apps at same time? I guess I am asking will Juice Defender do some other things in "background" that also helps my Battery?
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I can't speak for tasker but I found that running juice defender actually lagged my phone a little and ate up any battery I was saving by running it in the background 24/7.
Just my .02
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RonH54 said:
I have the Tasker App that I made Tasks to Turn GPS On/Off as needed by various Apps and I also set a Task to Turn WiFi On/Off as needed. I am also running Juice Defender is this "Over Kill" to run both these apps at same time? I guess I am asking will Juice Defender do some other things in "background" that also helps my Battery?
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I stopped using juice defender when I flashed cognition because the battery life is better. Tasker can be set to turn your data on and off. You just have to create a profile.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I am learning more and more about Tasker and I am slowly getting Tasks set to just run GPS,WiFi and Data only when certain apps call of them to be used. I know any App have running all the time drains battery somewhat that is why I am trying to decide if I need both Juice Defender and Tasker both running at same time. I guess my best bet is to "trial and error" test to see if I can find the best way to save battery.
I'd remove juice defender - keep working with Tasker - and if things still aren't up to par for you then re-install Juice Defender.
My battery was actually worse with juice defender, task killers etc. Just my 2 cents.
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I used the graph thing in Juice Defender, one with the internet going on and off every 15 minutes, and one with just leaving the internet on all the time.
The results didn't lie, and I uninstalled Juice Defender.
How about Autostarts...is that any better?
Hello everybody
I would like to know from you if battery saver apps are usefull or just useless.
I am using right now super power and i think it could save some energy but it is also quite annonying for example to wait for the band switch.
It is worth to to deal with this apps or you doesnt care about the energy you loose and enjoy to have no troubles with such apps.
Just out of curiosity which battery saver app you use when you use one?
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I use Juice Defender Ultimate and find it to extend the battery life a whole lot.
What it does is automaticly turn off data comunications when the screen goes off. It then turns data back on once every houre to let the phone check email and stuff like that.
You can customise almost everything. I really like it and would recommend it to anyone.
Xeno
Since I started using Green Power Premium, I find my phone on when I wake up in the morning
I too use juice defender, at this moment tells me my battery life has increased by x1.87
what that translates to in a percentage i dont know but hey !!! it saved some juice.
all these apps do is just make it quicker and easier to toggle things on/off, you could do it yourself but why waste time when the app does it for ya ???
some may argue that the app is constantly running in the background therefore its hogging battery, but too be honest, all you can do is try and see for yourself.
BUT !! i would recommend them to any one, Mainly Juice defender and some sort of toggle widget. hand in hand they work well
No battery savings app here.
If you prefer battery life over fancy looking screens (like myself), just get rid of all the constantly updating widgets and crap like that.
I managed to stretch my battery life to a consistent 48 hours per full charge. And that's with an average of 2,5 hours display on and a lot of listening to PowerAMP.
I just removed bloatware with titanium backup, set my wifi to sleep when the screen goes off, and lastly use setcpu app to downclock with certain profiles. I get excellent battery life now.
What you think about this, you use some app that close automatically services or not?
It's senseless to use such apps because Android does it by itself. Further it uses more energy and your battery will be low much faster.
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Self management. Close apps and services when you are not using them. Such apps that supposedly better manage your battery usage are a drain themselves.
Agree with Liam really .
Big battery drain is constant WIFi searching .
jje
Wi-fi is forever off, someone use droidwall?
Further it uses more energy and your battery will be low much faster.
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totally true !!!
Any app uses more battery than it is able to save...
There are exceptions to that such as SetCPU or Green Power Premium / JuiceDefender as they do reduce battery consumption, albeit at a cost to functionality / performance.
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There are exceptions to that such as SetCPU or Green Power Premium / JuiceDefender as they do reduce battery consumption, albeit at a cost to functionality / performance.
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But I don't think that is the point. We want maximum performance with minimum battery drain
The theme of the original question was app to extend battery life / automatically kill tasks. Utilities such as Advanced Task Killer / SetCPU / Green Power Premium and JuiceDefender spring to mind. It's true of course that Android to a certain point does this itself, but arguably these apps do it better. You cannot have a phone continually running at maximum performance without maximum battery drain.
You have to make a compromise.
Green power and juice defender are the only ones that spring to my mind.
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Using Gingerbread without any app killer I get a pretty food battery life (more than 2 days). So I really don't feel the need to use one.
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OK trying green power and juice defender I used adv task killer but IMHO has battery drain
I have been using Juice Defender with great success, I am using ultimate version which allows you set when and where to use you wifi/3g/2g etc, with a busy schedule you don't really have time to think about turning things on and off.
I set my evening hours (sleep) to turn off 3g and wifi and come back on again during the day 8am for every 1 hr polling.
This saves a huge amount of battery - easily getting 2 days with a full charge. But of course if you are using it for commuting music/videos/browsing - no software is going to help you.
Beautiful now i have installed the app gratis try it and than if satisfied get the ultimate version
As the display is what consumes the largest part of your battery, and as the SGS has an AMOLED display, you should also try
Screen Filter
or
Total screen control
True, display eats most of the "juice" on SGS... About task killers: i suggest having a task killer to kill tasks when you wish (by choosing so) BUT not by themselves. Let the android do that and you'll see it does it better!
Lastly about 2.3.3 roms: the is a know issue with very heavy battery drain on some cases (it will appear as :android OS on battery stats).. That is a bug of 2.3.3 roms appearing after running some application and games (especially the "heavy" ones). Only know fix so far is rebooting (also you may hear about deleting some system apps by i do not recommend it)!
In case of need the combo of Screen protector and Green power helped me reaching the end of the days.
i use advanced task killer by rechild. autokill frequency every half hour, setting crazy, security medium. i defined exceptions for my updating widgets and gmail and thats it. this way android stops loading all sorts of aps in the background after a while so loads of free ram and stunning battery life. saying android itself does a good job is simply wrong, but i hope android will some day.
Juice Defender
For me, Juice Defender increased the life of my battery in half a day. Now I can easily reach 2 days with medium usage.
Before, It was almost impossible to end second day without charge.
Hey guys, I'm considering to maximize the battery life, but also be able to get email in time.
Two options: 1.Disable juicedefender's wifi control, which allow wifi runing all the time while screen-off.
2. Set juicedefender control wifi, scheduling activate wifi every 15min for sync(ping).
It seems that option 2 should save more juice, but every time activating the wifi probably consumes more power.
Anyone has ever compare this two method?
i have used both, and spent hours tweaking juice defender - it DOES save battery, but for wifi its not enough to make it worth while imo
data uses a LOT more battery, so it may be worth while to let JD just control data.
I was using JD on default Sense 2.1 but have since stopped using it with CM7. If you really want to see big change to your battery life I would recommend changing your rom.
Ok going to try and start a conversation here to get feedback from everyone on what you guys do to get the most out of your battery. I see alot of people always asking what kernal is best for battery life and some people seem to have horrible battery life and some have exceptional battery life. I personally get decent battery life. Nothing super amazing but that comes down to the way I use my phone.
My current battery I'm using - Andida 2000mah battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/280843217453...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_4497wt_1396
I also have - GTMax 3500mah battery
http://www.amazon.ca/GTMax-Extended-Battery-3500mAh-Microfiber/dp/B006VAP102/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_4
The Andida gives me generally a extra 2-3 hours more over the stock. I had to cycle the battery 4 times before I started seeing any real improvements. If I take these off the charger at 6:30am I can ussually make it to around 10pm without needing to charge.
The GTMax get me through a day (630am - midnight) with around 50% left.
Now keep in mind this is based on my usage habits, and when I'm at work my signal is horrible so it drains a bit harder for the 8 hours I'm at work.
I don't have LTE where I live or work, I do get LTE in areas close by but on a regular day I don't see it. With the bad signal at work I've started to switch to gsm only mode (phone was constantly switching from Edge to 3g/4g and wouldn't provide a stable connection most of the time). This seems to have helped my battery at work.
When I flash a new rom I always give it at least 2 good full battery cycles before judging the battery life on it.
Ok onto some apps. My first foray into getting better battery life started with wanting to control my data. I used Juice Defender to that but I found that having to wait for the data to turn back on was at some times taking way to long and even sometimes I would have to reboot to get it back. Tried a few others and had similar experiences. When it works its nice and I did see some gain from it but at the same time it seemed bloated and slow and I decided I like having my data on and readily available quickly. After some searching I found an awesome app...
Better Battery Stats
Play Store link - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
XDA Forum link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
I highly recommend reading up on this app and trying it out. If your seeing a big drain on you battery while the screen is off, it's probably because there is something that is keeping it from going into a deep sleep mode. This won't save you any battery just by installing it but with a little work it can make a pretty good difference.
Ok now this is where I'm looking for suggestions, are there apps that you find specifically run smoother or are lighter than their stock counterparts or rival apps that put less of a strain on the battery?
Instead of the stock messaging app I run Pansi SMS. It gives me a few extra options but I never really used the stock mms on ICS so I can only compare it to Handcent SMS and I think it is definitely lighter and a lil bit more battery friendly. It's not a huge difference but I try and squeeze everything I can w/o giving up functionality.
For a launcher I'm running apex right now, but for a lightweight launcher I'd recommend FTL. Runs really nice and smooth, nothing fancy about it, just fast and light.
Some apps sometimes can just be poorly coded and thus have a bad effect on battery life. Alot of people seem to feel the Facebook app is one such app that suffers from that. The app that gets the most recommendations as a replacement and being a bit easier on the battery is Friendcaster. I tend to agree with that, and would recommend trying it out.
I'd really like to hear about what everyone else does to try and squeeze out the most of their battery. Theres more stuff that I do, such as reducing the amount of things that are synced to only the stuff I actually want, default settings just sync everything and I don't feel I need to sync my contacts on a daily basis as I rarely change them around. So share your tips, experiences good and bad with apps in regards to your battery, and if theres enough feedback I'll try and re-organize this into a bit better structure.
I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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Right here, this is the key. I have data off all the time. I only turn it on when I need to look something up or browse. IMO auto updates really kill the battery and aren't worth leaving your data on all the time. I'm on wifi a lot as well. Currently I'm on DarkRaider and I'm ending the day with around 30-40%, great improvement over stock.
It seems that with every new handset that comes out this is one of the hottest topics but the parameters all always the same with regard to battery life.
The 3 biggest things that drain our batteries are Display Usage, Data Connection & Radio Cell Connection. These are listed in order of current used. Of the 3 we can have some control over the 1st 2. Lower screen brightness and disconnect data when not needed and use wifi when possible. While wifi does use a good amount of current it's not as much as mobile data. The last one, Radio Cell Connection, we have very little control over. It's also the reason we see people having great differences in battery life. The further the phone is from the tower it's connected to the more juice it needs to make a good connection. So other than leaving the phone in airplane mode or planning your life around where towers are, neither of which are very practical, there is not much we can do there.
To get the best all around life from Li-ion batteries do not fully discharge them very often and also don't keep them plugged in after they're fully charged. It's best to recharge them when they get down to 20-30% and unplug them after they're charged. They also don't need to be fully charged every time, they have no memory. If your on the go and can only leave it plugged in for a short period of time that's fine. Also if you have more than one battery and your not going to use the 2nd one for a while don't store it at full charge. drop it down to 50-60% before pulling it out.
I'll update this post when I get home tonight with more info and links. Hope it helps.
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Right here, this is the key. I have data off all the time. I only turn it on when I need to look something up or browse. IMO auto updates really kill the battery and aren't worth leaving your data on all the time. I'm on wifi a lot as well. Currently I'm on DarkRaider and I'm ending the day with around 30-40%, great improvement over stock.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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With my 3500mah battery I don't really worry about turning anything off. That thing is great. Made a bumper case for it but I miss having a real case on it so I picked up the 2000mah andida battery so I could get a few more hours on some days. If someone ever made a real case for those big batteries i'd use it all the time.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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Try 2x Battery from the store. It will shut off data as soon as the the phone sleeps, it reconnects at screen on after unlock almost instantly. It also allows you to white list apps, like Pandora. The free version only allows 1 app though.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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The DarkRaider ROM I am using has a nice extended settings menu in the notification bar with a data toggle. I also have a nice widget from switchpro widgets where I can customize what kinds of things I want to be able to toggle from my homescreen. Currently I have data/wifi/vibrate-silent/gps. Doesn't take long at all when I toggle the data on/off, it's pretty much instant.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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I use the 2X Battery app. When the phone goes to sleep, the app turns off the data radio. I can still get calls and text messages. I don't have a need for push notification of e-mail, etc., so this saves me some battery usage. Of course, if e-mail and other app notifications are important, this app will help only if you are willing to wait until you wake up the phone.
Here's what I do. I'm on the stock HTC battery.
I SetCPU screen off to 192/192 ondemand, in call to 810/192 ondemand, and regular use to 810/192 ondemand.
I listen to about 2 hours of music a day, have 3 GMail accounts on autosync, a Facebook account on hourly autosync and HTC Weather on hourly sync. Automatic brightness. Roughly 1.5 hours of cumulative web-browsing, no apps/games used.
I never use WiFi and I don't live in an LTE area.
I typically end the day (19-21 hours unplugged) with ~40% remaining.
Now I am not sure if living in area with LTE is a bless or curse....
I would unplug around 7am everyday, and by the time I get home (around 6pm) I would always in red mode (meaning, it is either 14% or under). Using the Holics-0.6 with the kernel that came with it, battery seems to die fast. Even when I am on the stock ICS before this, seems LTE would just bleed this baby to death....
Reading other comments, might as well start looking for a bigger battery....
It actually seems like I'm getting better battery since LTE came to my town. I'm on dark raider using kozmick's rc1 kernel and it's even better now. Try turning off vibration feedback...I think it's located in the sounds menu in settings. You can also try using automatic brightness or even just setting it to stay at 50% or lower. The screen is a battery hog. There's a stickied thread somewhere on here that has other things you can try too.
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Really is a shame that we have to disable or ease everything back so much to get through the day on a battery. Anyhow, I have a Velocity (which comes out of the box with the processor running at 1500) on Dark Raider. Therefore I use SetCPU to throttle the beast back, depending upon the circumstances. It only is allowed to run at 1500 when on charge and down to 400 when battery below 25 percent. I also use 2X Battery to take care of the netowrk and Wi-Fi and have purchased the andida battery for extended life. I also have JD installed, however it is rarely used - reason is that I am in agreeance with "citsong" that it takes too long to establish connections, even causing me general connection issues from time to time. So for around $25 AUD you can get through the day on a battery with moderate use and reasonable performance. I have not tried the extended battery pack, though I will probably get one of those as well...not sure which are the best???
I personally don't like the vibrate response thing, so I turn that off right out of the box, also, auto brightness is another that I set. When I go in the battery tab to see what is bleeding it to death, and most of it would be the display....
Though, vivid seem to have a smaller battery compared to other phones of similar functions and/or size, so that might be the reason I am not really seeing a very good battery life?
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I personally don't like the vibrate response thing, so I turn that off right out of the box, also, auto brightness is another that I set. When I go in the battery tab to see what is bleeding it to death, and most of it would be the display....
Though, vivid seem to have a smaller battery compared to other phones of similar functions and/or size, so that might be the reason I am not really seeing a very good battery life?
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Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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My solution was to get a larger battery (2100mAh, the largest one with stock format) and using juice defender to control my Data Connection. I am getting about 60% more using time on a normal usage whan before!
I actually have both Motorola Atrix 2 and HTC Vivid. However, my Atrix 2 would last about two days between charges, which is kind of weird. I have my personal account and company account on that phone (personal is to activate the google stuff), so it eats up data twice as fast, yet it is almost twice as long battery life.
And to update a little bit from my post before, it seems I am getting better battery life now, after 4-5 days of flashing the new ROM, let's hope it is true....or I am just going to go hunt for a bigger battery
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rignfool said:
Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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Actually, the Samsung Galaxy Note is way bigger than either Atrix or Vivid, so with a bigger body, I would assume that a bigger battery is possible. But if you look at current phones, I rarely see batteries that are above, say, 1800mAh, let alone 2000mAh and above, stock of course.
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My solution was to get a larger battery (2100mAh, the largest one with stock format) and using juice defender to control my Data Connection. I am getting about 60% more using time on a normal usage whan before!
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Could you share the details on the battery?
Andida batteies are easily found on Ebay, but beware of Chinese fakes!! I got mine from a seller in Canada, all good.
I get good battery life by turning off data while I'm working . 70% with 8hrs unplugged
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