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I was just wondering how the sd card gets fried from using swap (idk which kind linux or something other idk)...sorry im a noob.
the best way i can explain it is...say you leave your xbox on after you are done gaming, you NEVER TURN IT OFF, even at night, doesnt matter, its kept on 24/7... well do you think thats a good thing to do to your xbox? no it will eventually start to crash because of its overuse and over heating.
well its the same concept with sd cards, eventually they just fry up...especially when you mod them like we do in order to run the stuff we do on our phones... understand now?
Wow.... Um well really its basically a life cycle situation. Flash memory has a number of cycles the manufacturer says the transistors (floating-gate transistors) will fire. The SDcard is made of kazillions of them and they may fail after a certain number of read / write cycles. It is a lot of cycles. Like alot. Don't loose any sleep over swap killing your card. As with everything in your life, just backup regularly and don't eat the yellow snow and you'll be ok.
Yep the wonderful floating gate non-volatile transistor.
Note that flash is typically good for about 100k writes. That is really not a lot and can be worn out in a rather short period of time if you hound it constantly, which is what you do when you use it as swap.
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the best way i can explain it is...say you leave your xbox on after you are done gaming, you NEVER TURN IT OFF, even at night, doesnt matter, its kept on 24/7... well do you think thats a good thing to do to your xbox? no it will eventually start to crash because of its overuse and over heating.
well its the same concept with sd cards, eventually they just fry up...especially when you mod them like we do in order to run the stuff we do on our phones... understand now?
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Xbox's will crash and burn anyways thats why ps3 is better. lol.
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Xbox's will crash and burn anyways thats why ps3 is better. lol.
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x2 but how would i avoid the fried sd card? flash CM??
Is there any app available that can do this???
Nope.
But the request does come up enough that maybe I should write up something simple...
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Nope.
But the request does come up enough that maybe I should write up something simple...
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That would be awesome. A lot of times theres no specs on the speed of cards out there and your not really sure of what you are buying. It would be awesome.
excellent idea for an app. there are cards out there that do not list there class and cards that are listed as class 2 yet reach class 6 speeds.
cheers,
ryan
If you guys would give me a good algorithim to test read/write speeds I can work on it later tonight. It will probably take a few days a best.
But My idea is write a 2 meg file to the SD card, time it. Read the same file from the card, time it. Do a little math...present some numbers...
Now there are a lot of issues that could come into play with that method. Maybe repeat it 3 or 4 times just to see an average, but still its not the best that it could be.
What about just getting a microsd adapter or even mounting it to the computer. And then run a program that tests read/write speeds and use it on the card. like h2testw or something :/
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What about just getting a microsd adapter or even mounting it to the computer. And then run a program that tests read/write speeds and use it on the card. like h2testw or something :/
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1. On the phone is just cooler
2. On another thread about this topic there was debate about how accurate it would be to use an adapter or mounting as a drive. Adding cable seems to me like it could increase latency and you are no longer using the phones OS to test its internal stuff. ( i know its USB its faster than the card anyways, but see #1)
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If you guys would give me a good algorithim to test read/write speeds I can work on it later tonight. It will probably take a few days a best.
But My idea is write a 2 meg file to the SD card, time it. Read the same file from the card, time it. Do a little math...present some numbers...
Now there are a lot of issues that could come into play with that method. Maybe repeat it 3 or 4 times just to see an average, but still its not the best that it could be.
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You can start from there then trial and error. I was thinking you can take a look at any of the web SpeedTests in the market and learn something from there.
If you are on linux you can mount the phone and run
Code:
hdparm -tT /dev/sdd
where sdd is the phones drive(could be different on your machine)
That will give you a read speed but would would be limited by your USB read speed.
Hdparm is not built into android so you can't run it from the phone. There is one command that is built in that can measure speeds... However it is VERY VERY VERY dangerous so I hesitate to post it here but... dd
For the love of God do not mess with dd unless you read up on it and fully understand it. You could very easily measure write speed as well as read with dd but you would need an empty card because you would have to just blindly write to the blocks on the card. Doing which will at the bare minimum if you know what you are doing overwrite stuff on the card. Worst case is you mess up your partition table and have to re-partition. So I will only point you in the direction of dd and not post any code on how to use it for fear of some idiot entering the code and wiping their phone(although they would have to know how to use adb shell so they wouldn't be complete idiots)
This would be a useful app. I have a class 6 PNY SD and want to know how fast it really is.
Wow, what an AMAZING idea for an app. I would be more than happy to help and test!!!
Sooo
I am working on this guys.
I have gotten the program writing a file out to the SDcard. It just a randomly filled Byte Array being parsed to a file on the SDcard a few times, then reading it back off (Haven't got the reading part yet). I am running into some FC issues and also getting the timer to work is being a PITA. Android doesn't like my threads for some reason.
If I have time this week maybe I can get it done - or at least working, but I have some stuff going on that may slow down progress.
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Also if anyone that is not quite so Artisticly Challenged as I am wants to get me some drawables. I can use an Icon and a 320x480 image back ground (Let's try to keep it simple , I have seen some of your boot screens. lol)
Bump for moral support!
couldn't you just pop it into an adapter, and use HD Tune on your pc? http://www.hdtune.com/
I think the concept of the app request is so people don't have to turn off theory beloved heroes and pull battery just to get to the SD card, babe.
couldn't you just pop it into an adapter, and use HD Tune on your pc? http://www.hdtune.com/
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Kcarpenter, if you don't mind me asking what the status on this?
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Well, it reads and writes a 6 meg file while spinning a wait cursor LOL.
Been working on final projects the past few weeks.
Might have something out 2 week of june.
As it stands now:
1)Need to setup a time mechanism - probably most acurate to grab a time stamp before the start and after the finish. Threads tend to get time messed up.
2)After the file is written and the time is figured out. Need to display the read/write results.
3)Then need to cleanup the file and ram after everything is done.
Also, I have seen the file only become half of the size it should be (3 mb)....which I think has something to do with UTF (Chars taking up 2 bytes)....but I am not sure yet.
And on top of that...who the hell knows if its accurate LOL.
But it's been interesting and fun.
haha, well thats good. keeps you interested then. i honestly dont kknow anything about programming and what not, so i cant help you there. buuuutttt when you finish and need testers i can help. well try anyways
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haha, well thats good. keeps you interested then. i honestly dont kknow anything about programming and what not, so i cant help you there. buuuutttt when you finish and need testers i can help. well try anyways
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I am really interested to see if it's even remotly accurate.
Seems like creating a 6 meg file and writing it out from memory to the card would surely test well... But there are a crap ton of things that could come into play and effect it.
I guess we'll only know if we try.
unless my phone explodes, i see nothing wrong with trying it out.
Not a fan of mobile gaming, but purchased this today as it looks awesome for a phone, though after downloading, damn thing downloads again, taking ages, some reported it taking half an hour, and it causes error at 13% on my phone constantly, so I opened this thread to see if anybody can help on troubleshooting, so far, I've deleted the app in the SD card, un-installed and have started it again.
Got it to work, was low on memory on SD card.
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Not a fan of mobile gaming, but purchased this today as it looks awesome for a phone, though after downloading, damn thing downloads again, taking ages, some reported it taking half an hour, and it causes error at 13% on my phone constantly, so I opened this thread to see if anybody can help on troubleshooting, so far, I've deleted the app in the SD card, un-installed and have started it again.
Got it to work, was low on memory on SD card.
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is the game decent or? whats it about?
Im downloading the files atm...but it looks awesome! I cant wait to start playing! Check this video to have an idea of it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeyQ-PC_cwc
Tried it for a bit and runs perfectly on the desire hd. Problem is there isn't a demo so its all or nothing. Its a 7mb download but then need another couple of hundred after you download it. Which will take a while over 3g killing any chances of a refund!
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Tried it for a bit and runs perfectly on the desire hd. Problem is there isn't a demo so its all or nothing. Its a 7mb download but then need another couple of hundred after you download it. Which will take a while over 3g killing any chances of a refund!
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Which rom are u using?? Im using CM6 RC2 and its not really smooth....i believe Sense has better 3D performance.
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is the game decent or? whats it about?
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Which rom are u using?? Im using CM6 RC2 and its not really smooth....i believe Sense has better 3D performance.
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I'm using Sense, ROM: Revolution HD, it's working perfectly, I'm enjoying this game, very addictive, onlines pretty good, but disconnects at time, can get annoying, nevertheless, very good game. It's a strategy/RPG, you will not be unhappy, especially at that price.
Can anyone post his Dundef sd folder on multiupload, because i still stuck at 41% after 50 tries
thanks in advance and merry christmas!
foxcheng said:
Can anyone post his Dundef sd folder on multiupload, because i still stuck at 41% after 50 tries
thanks in advance and merry christmas!
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Make sure you have plenty of space on your memory card, for some odd reason it gives error, just keep relaunching it and it continues from where it stops.
wow looks pretty awesome actually. Might have to buy that
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Make sure you have plenty of space on your memory card, for some odd reason it gives error, just keep relaunching it and it continues from where it stops.
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i have 1.77Gb now in sd card, now already over 100 tries to download Leaderboards_LOC_INT.xxx
can you please upload htc version's dundef folder to multiupload.com, i tried galaxy x's sd content, the pixel messed up on the menu and then jump out to main screen..
I sort of went down the rooting route due to everyone saying it was a MUST - even though the LG ran well, everything worked well and battery life was OK if not groundbreaking. So I was kind of half-hearted to start with.
Well, after 2 days of having to keep re-romming after this didn't work and that didn't work (Bluetooth in particular) I just can't get MIUI to see the 16gb card as the 16gb it is, it shows as 5. Now I had read this before. But that the LG software had this problem not the rooted stock. I even tried to go back to LG's original - It didn't work. The download on here (UK version of original Optimus 2x) doesn't install. Says "aborted" - this after horrendously slow download speeds. Keeps saying it's part of a multi-pack on my PC. Put them both on, but....
Anyways. The 16gb card. Ive tried another 16gb card with the same end result.
Can anyone PLEASE help me. Ive got no help on the MIUI site, and just lost. I tried to install Navfree and another navigation prog (Navfree UK maps don't download properly - keeps demanding more and more downloads. Ridiculously so - had to be uninstalled) tried another one, and it said it needed a 750mb download and there wasn't enough room - there was a MOUNTAIN of room. But its showing as 5. (Even there, theres not close to 5gb used)
Can anyone PLEASE help ?
All Ive got so far asking on half a dozen sites, is silence so far in 4 days
I doubt what is 'seen' as 5 gb by your phone is your SD card. I haven't ever heard of such problems. Big chances are, which often happens, that you're mistaking the internal memory as the sd card.
Stock MIUI mounts the internal and external cards the same way as stock LG ROM, but there could be a chance you used a swap mount mod without knowing.
I actually wanted to laugh, here i upload a file just for you
Here is the link for the sd mod.
http://www.box.com/s/7pl04u9onk76d80yb5tl
Credits goes too this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263311
Lol nice heading of miui. 16/miui = 5 kidding, never mind
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Excellent !!!!!
crankyboy said:
I actually wanted to laugh, here i upload a file just for you
Here is the link for the sd mod.
http://www.box.com/s/7pl04u9onk76d80yb5tl
Credits goes too this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263311
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You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. It's solved my irritating problem and thats an understatement - now I have a proper 16gb sd micro in and all the room that invokes !
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Lol nice heading of miui. 16/miui = 5 kidding, never mind
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And where was that ? Not in the heading. Check again.
Click the _______ button. (Fill in the blanks) Hint*"when somebody did a favour you should ?":
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You might have fake memory, memory thats been hacked to look like it has more than it does....the chinese do stupid s**t like that. Sometimes when the card is formatted the true memory capacity is revealed.
He is using MIUI ROM
Miui only uses the internel sd card ~~
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Click the _______ button. (Fill in the blanks) Hint*"when somebody did a favour you should ?":
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Er.....I checked, and yes, a big thanks given to you for your help. Quite profuse, actually. Ive just noticed the "thanks" button - but you could have done it with a LOT more grace.
Clearly, being thanked profusely didn't do it for you ?
Hard man to please.
I'll click the button then that I missed until er.....reminded of it a little too grumpily for me - hopefully that'll tick the box for you.
Still, while being a little miffed at the attitude, Im still very grateful for your help, for all that.
Hey guys, I am currently on the rezound and most likely going to the One. I was wondering how not having any external memory has been for you guys? Does flashing new roms wipe everything you have or is there two different partitions? I have some backups of apps that I don't want to lose. Thanks in advance.
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How do we handle it? Uhhh..... just like you guys do. It's not nearly as big of a deal as you people are making it out to be. I actually feel sorry for you guys with garbage external micro-sd cards. Writing a movie to those things takes forever. I drag and drop files and they take seconds. Enjoy being left in the past. Just like those kids crying about not having a removable battery. Boo hoo now you can't play Candy Crush Saga for 13 hours straight.
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How do we handle it? Uhhh..... just like you guys do. It's not nearly as big of a deal as you people are making it out to be. I actually feel sorry for you guys with garbage external micro-sd cards. Writing a movie to those things takes forever. I drag and drop files and they take seconds. Enjoy being left in the past. Just like those kids crying about not having a removable battery. Boo hoo now you can't play Candy Crush Saga for 13 hours straight.
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I agree. I'm completely happy with only having one storage point.
In the worse case scenario I can always OTG a flash drive.
It acts like external storage, its not tied to the system/data partitions
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Everybody seem to miss his original question?
Does flashing new roms wipe everything you have or is there two different partitions?
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He didn't ask "How do you deal with ONLY 32GB/64GB?!?"
Initially that was a concern of mine coming from a Galaxy S3 but it actually hasn't been a problem at all I've plenty of photos, videos and music not to mention apps, etc on my phone and still a good bit of storage left.
You can keep plastic Samsung with Touchwiz gimme polished Sense 5 on sleek aluminium body any day , I'll only buy aluminium /brushed metal in future.
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I don't need an excessive amount of media saved on my phone. I have hundreds of songs, tons of games, all the apps I need, 2 twrp backups, titanium backup of my apps with 5 gigs to spare.
I don't think I'll be needing 64gb anytime soon....
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You can keep plastic Samsung with Touchwiz gimme polished Sense 5 on sleek aluminium body any day , I'll only buy aluminium /brushed metal in future.
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Was there really any need for this? Why even bring it up completely different subject
Edit: I don't even think anyone else mentioned Samsung....
Otg cable and flash drive. Next question.
a box of kittens said:
Was there really any need for this? Why even bring it up completely different subject
Edit: I don't even think anyone else mentioned Samsung....
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Sammy fan are we?
Relax mate just an observation.
Some username you have BTW
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Hey guys, I am currently on the rezound and most likely going to the One. I was wondering how not having any external memory has been for you guys? Does flashing new roms wipe everything you have or is there two different partitions? I have some backups of apps that I don't want to lose. Thanks in advance.
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i have 17 gigs free and 2 terabytes of cloud storage .....
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i have 17 gigs free and 2 terabytes of cloud storage .....
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I have a 50 GB music collection and not having it all with me at all times used to bother me but I've found it doesn't any more. I'd be bothered less if I had unlimited data.
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I have a 50 GB music collection and not having it all with me at all times used to bother me but I've found it doesn't any more. I'd be bothered less if I had unlimited data.
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Yeah I'm in wifi 98% of the data so streaming my music and anything else is not a big deal
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bbedward said:
It acts like external storage, its not tied to the system/data partitions
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Everybody seem to miss his original question?
He didn't ask "How do you deal with ONLY 32GB/64GB?!?"
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Thanks for the straight forward answer. And for not being rude about it. I only have a 16 gig SD card anyways, I don't like having a whole lot of things to filter threw on my phone anyways. I haven't read anything online about how the storage works on phones with no external memory so I was wanting to know.
As far as flashing roms and all, is there a small allocated amount for the rom to write to? Just trying to understand it more that's all.
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Thanks for the straight forward answer. And for not being rude about it. I only have a 16 gig SD card anyways, I don't like having a whole lot of things to filter threw on my phone anyways. I haven't read anything online about how the storage works on phones with no external memory so I was wanting to know.
As far as flashing roms and all, is there a small allocated amount for the rom to write to? Just trying to understand it more that's all.
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System, data, and sdcard are on entirely separate partitions. /system is where the rom goes
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Everybody is missing the point of this thread....
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Hey guys, I am currently on the rezound and most likely going to the One. I was wondering how not having any external memory has been for you guys? Does flashing new roms wipe everything you have or is there two different partitions? I have some backups of apps that I don't want to lose. Thanks in advance.
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The one supports self powered otg out of the box
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Play music. Google drive. Google+ for photos. Fixes any and every need for onboard storage. I came from an 8gb nexus 4. With 32gb I'm laughing. Way more storage than I can dream of.
I didn't want to start a new thread for one simple question so I figured I would ask it here. My wife just asked me a question I have not thought about so I would like to know if anyone can answer/test it for me. She asked if she got an htc one and her phone would not boot up after awhile of having it, if she can still get the pictures/videos off the phone to transfer them to the computer. Or would she lose the pictures/videos? We are expecting our second child in December, so she doesn't want to risk losing new pictures of the baby. Can anyone test this for me?
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I didn't want to start a new thread for one simple question so I figured I would ask it here. My wife just asked me a question I have not thought about so I would like to know if anyone can answer/test it for me. She asked if she got an htc one and her phone would not boot up after awhile of having it, if she can still get the pictures/videos off the phone to transfer them to the computer. Or would she lose the pictures/videos? We are expecting our second child in December, so she doesn't want to risk losing new pictures of the baby. Can anyone test this for me?
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I am not sure if the phone completely died (what I assume you mean by not boot up) if it would still be recognized by a computer to get to the photos. However, every picture I take with my phone is instantly transferred to my Dropbox account, so I never worry about losing anything. With proper backing up to a computer and managing Dropbox (for example, take pics, they are automatically synced to Dropbox, at some point transfer the same pics to your computer, then delete them from Dropbox so your Dropbox doesn't fill up), the chances of losing anything are slim.
Hope this helped....
Yeah, she is on her 7th phone now, so she very cautious and worried that her next phone will have an unreal amount of issues. She isn't one to have a whole lot of steps to achieve something.
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