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Red light of death fixed!!! (sticky???)

I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks

So my replacement Tilt isn't working either, so they're overnighting me a third one. In the meantime, I haven't sent back my original (RLoDed) Tilt, so I thought I'd play around with some of your theories.
skuzz said:
Another thought I had. After the tilt goes into red brick death mode, has anyone tried plugging it into power, battery installed, and then holding down power+camera(all the way) and then pushing in the reset button on the bottom? This may trigger it to go into flash mode - although I kinda doubt it'll work. Worth a shot! Might be able to reflash it back to life! Holding down power and camera while it boots is how you manually force it to get in the Red/Green/Blue firmware flash mode. If it let us do that much when the device bricked we might have a snowball's chance in hell of getting them working. I didn't think of trying it before I returned mine tho. D'oh!
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I didn't know what to try besides installing the battery and SIM card and trying to push down the power, camera, and stylus buttons (I knew I was doing it correctly, because I had to use this to return my second Tilt to factory specs). No response whatsoever! This thing is deader than a doornail. Except for the red LED, of course... that works REALLY well whenever it's plugged in.
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I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, but the only thing I can confirm is that this did NOT work on my RLoDed Tilt. Tried it several times in various ways. I think you just seriously lucked out!
As such, I'd also have to vote against stickying this... for now.
Best of luck, all... if not actually in fixing your RLoDed Tilts, then definitely in avoiding the $500 service fee if AT&T discovers we voided our warranties.

alright i will confirm this too....my phone was truely RLOD..... i did the same thing that these guys did just jammin the battery in and out and it "jump started the phone"
exact process used
Moto Razr charger
hold down power button
"bounce" battery on and off the contacts for the battery a good 100 times or so
green light apeared after the red light started to flicker a little bit..... tis as if you were giving the phone CPR or something
im not going to call this a fix all i know is that the phone was RLOD and now it is working....battery is at 54% right now and i will post back in a bit to see if it has risen at all....
no smell arising from device
running origional rom but have had other roms on there (alex's)
hard SPL still installed on device
SPB phone suite is the last software that was installed on the device
reg tweaks installed as well, the usual ones no sms, hsdpa enabled blah blah blah
that is about all i can provide....the unit was on the computer overnight charging....when i woke up it was RLOD....and i was sad....i did have the ATT store replace the battery for me as well dunno if that had anything to do with the issue...
in the time that it has taken me to write this the battery is now at 55% so it is charging.....on wall charger with MOTO razr charger
ok lets take a little closer look at what happened within the past little bit....
after gettin the device all up and running it was behaving very oddly.... it would go through multiple attempts to connect to the data network for various reasons....after showing that it was at 55% on the charger it went back down to 54%... i pulled it off the charger and took it into the other room to do something......within 10 min it was down to 46%....now having a data connection my blackberry connect should have a valid network connection....but it did not... not sure why...
the best that i can conclude is that it was trying to connect to so many things all at the same time that it exhausted its self that fast....
so the question is how many people out there that have RLOD are running the BB connect software on there devices and have made REG edits to the data connection time outs and the HSDPA mod availability
editing those settings together may confuse the device and make it think that it has to connect to too many things at one time....
just another thought process that i thought that i would throw out there...
here are some things on the my device that would use the DATA connection and automatically initiate the connection on the device rather than you opening a program forcing it to connect such as Internet explorer
GPS update
HTC home weather tab
SPB weather tab
Blackberry connect
SPB insight....RSS Reader
text messages going in and out....my phone sees quite a few of those
Edit/Delete Message

There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.

i had the same prob..took out the batterly wiped the four contact points on the phone (might of pushed them down or up) and put battery back in and worked..

I believe sWuRv was onto something. My Tilt had the RLOD today. I tried everything, even what he suggested above to no avail. So I called warranty and got my replacement on it's way, express shipping waved and all. So I decided to everything I could think of to try and get the thing back on so I might be able to back up my data again.
I started fooling with the battery, like sWuRv suggested but I moved it all around at 45 degrees or so pushing the power on button. I noticed while it was plugged to the USB with red light on that every now and then the red light would flash when I moved the battery so the contacts moved (while holding the battery at that 45 degrees). I started getting the light to go yellow but it would not stay. So I unplugged from the USB and kept trying it while pushing the power button. It eventually started and I was able to back up to my SD card. One thing I can tell you is that this process caused the phone to get hot and smell like electronics burning a little. There is definitely a power problem inside.
I have no idea how or why this worked but it did. I think I will still take the replacement even though I have to figure out how to swap my fancy invisible armor clear protector skin.
I'll try and update on whether this phone dies again or what until I get the new one.

rlod
I tried messing with the battery in a variety of ways for 30 minutes with no sucess. RLOD stayed solid.

RLOD
Holy shoot............After bouncing my battery up and down about 40 times my phone came to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reseating the battery and/or sim/storage cards is hardly a revolutionary procedure. Its Cellphone 101.

you guys are LIFE SAVERS. I have been on this forum for about a month now and I finally found a reason to post. I haven't posted because I always find my answers. I just wanted to thank everyone, as I have been on the phone with Amazon.com (where i got my tilt), went into an AT&T store and was on the phone with HTC tech support ALL day trying to resolve my red light issue. Unbelievable that all I needed to do was give it some "battery CPR":

UGHHHH. Well i found reason to make post #2. The fix lasted less than 5 minutes.

this did not work for me

These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto

"Not the Mama", OR, NOT THE BATTERY
rotohammer said:
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.

cushcalc said:
I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
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Very good, thanks for the insight!

I finished a call yesterday and then dropped my phone on to the pavement cos I was a bit drunk... Anyway this caused my phone to go from working fine (all be it with pants battery life) to just flashing the red light. Fixed it today. I tried the methods prescribed in this thread without success although I did not persevere for very long. I then put a spare battery in to the phonea and bingo the orange light comes on, phone boots up and it's now happilly charging. Note that I charged the old battery for several hours before trying the fix. Pity nobody seems to know what the problem actually is. I wish HTC would let us know....

sWuRv said:
There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
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I had a similar problem with my old iPAQ hw6515, and a Motorola V3. The contacts on the battery don't spring forward as well on an older phone as they do when it was new. I shimmed the battery. I did this by taking a business card and holding it against the opposite side of the battery from the contacts I traced the battery's profile and cut it out. I scotch taped my new shim to that side of the battery, then re-inserted it. This forces the battery up against the contacts better and in many times resolves inoperable phones, failure to charge, and spontaneous rebooting issues.
-Jay

My replacement tilt (first one had a bad USB connector) died Sunday.
Had it on the charger, looked down, red LED. Back of phone was pretty
warm. Pulled the battery, SIM, memory card, slammed the battery onto the
battery contacts rapidly 5-6 times, put the SIM, memory, battery back into
it, and it charged up. Did a hard reset. Battery was 100% charged, I turned
it completely OFF when I went to bed. Got up, battery was 0% drained!
Red LED again. Did the rapid thingy with the battery again, orange charge
light came on.
Called at&t warranty replacement. When I told her I had a red LED, she didn't
even ask me to do anything else. She just asked for the IMIE number and shipped me another one.
Maybe the 3rd one will be the charm LOL.......
I'm beginning to think that HTC doesn't stand for "high tech computes" but
"high tech CRAP"....

Maybe you guys got the margin of error productions? I know its really unlikely that you could get them again after a replacement but it is possible, and it maybe your computer. What do you think could be making this things go crazy? Overly protective anti-virus, I know, I know but it could do things secretly and screw around like mine does and wont let me into sites I have been on before on the same app no changes . . . Well I hope you luck.

ok I just tried everything you guys said, but it didn't work for me
so as some of you have stated it must be the battery, so what I did is put it between my hands for about 1 minute and put it in and it worked again!
really weird... must be the heat?
well hope that helps the research
Cheers
Jay

Is my N1 bricked?

I plugged in the wall charger last night before I sleep, and the phone is completely dead this morning. I've tried different battery and different charger, but I just can't turn on my device at all, the charging led doesn't even light up.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
ROM: Cyanogenmod CM6 Alpha 1
Kernel: IntersectRaven 2.6.35_AVS-925mV_CFS_20100705_2204
Recovery: RA Amon recovery v. 1.7.0.1

I had this once before with my HTC Hero. I tried swapping batteries, different chargers and nothing would bring it back to life.
HOWEVER! I plugged the phone into my PC via the USB and voila! Phone came back to life. I charged the phone fully via USB and then it worked fine with the mains charger after that.
Strange I know but hopefully this solves your problem.

Thanks for your reply, unfortunately that did not help.
I can hear a constant white noise when I hold the phone to my ears while plugged in to both wall / usb. But the charging led doesn't turn on and I can't power on the phone at all.
I also tried holding down trackball, volume down, and power for 5 secs.
Just trying to see if there's anyway to bring it back before calling HTC for a replacement... Does anyone know how much it'll cost for the replacement? Is it full $530?

Well if its not starting up at all then it shouldn't be bricked.. So i think you should still be under manufacture warranty since the phone still hasn't been out for a year so you should be able to get a free replacement because that's a manufacture defect.. So yeah try calling HTC or Google

Could be just battery... its definitely not bricked though, ask them to send you a new batt

xSunny said:
Well if its not starting up at all then it shouldn't be bricked.. So i think you should still be under manufacture warranty since the phone still hasn't been out for a year so you should be able to get a free replacement because that's a manufacture defect.. So yeah try calling HTC or Google
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Unfortunately if you read his sig... it may not be as easy as that.

Why? Coz he's rooted? HTC has good cust service. There have been lots of cases where HTC still honored replacements due to manufacture defect or hardware issues even after the device has been rooted. If they can't turn it on they wouldn't even know its rooted. Still I wouldn't mention it to them while trying to get a replacement though.
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Unfortunately if you read his sig... it may not be as easy as that.
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It's definitely not the charger or the battery as I have two N1 and I tried another battery. It also won't turn on with the charger connected.
I already called HTC for a swap. Hopefully they won't charge me for the replacement since it's unlocked.
Thanks for the replies

[Q] Brand new Nexus One can't be powered on

I have a brand new Nexus One bought on last year April. For some reason it wasn't to be used. Yesterday, I got it out of the package and charged it for ready to be powered on. Unfortunately, it reacted nothing as I pressed the power button! I took out the battery and put it into other Nexus One, it showed the battery was 100% charged.
I took back the battery and repacked it to this new Nexus One. I tried to press the power button more and more with data cable connected pc. Nothing happened. Just one time, the sceen lighted on and the "X" in four colors appeared! I didn't know why it was powered on. Maybe I pressed the trackball or volume up/down buttons, God know it.
The X sceen lasted almost for ten minutes and then sceen was off! Yes. It shutdown! I can't power it on anymore!
It seemed the hardware was OK. It may be the locked by the outdate android system. The android prestored in this phone is version 2.1.
Any advice is welcome. Thanks.

Can u you go in fastboot? Press power button+trackball..if so then you can recover your phone by unlocking bootloader and falshing custom recovery.

Sadly, It can't be power on and go in fastboot by pressing trackball+power button.

Any more advice?

Check the battery terminals just to make sure they're not dirty.. Sadly, you MUST be able to at least be able to boot something (hboot/fastboot) in order to troubleshoot anything software related. Sounds like you've got a hardware issue that could be one of (literally) a million things.
Sell it on EBay for parts. You can probably get $50-$60

you could try pressing pwr/vol-/trackball all at same time, hold down for around 30 seconds to make sure
commonly known as 3 finger salute
try power on without sdcard by manual methods and plugging in and plugging in with no battery

I have seen a video on YouTube on how to fix the power button which is known for messing up and how to turn it on. Search YouTube
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is it that the power button is not working? that would be weird for a new phone though.
have you tried to turn it on using the "jump start" method?
connect the cable. led the charging led come on. remove the battery, wait for the led to go off (while cable is still connected) then pop the battery back in.
see if you can get it to start that way

When you plug charger cable in your Nexus, does the orange or green LED go on?
If one of them does and stays (green for full battery, orange otherwise) - then your problem is most likely the power button. It may not be the only problem, but at least the one that's stopping you from turning on your phone. You can try "jumpstarting" it by inserting battery while charger is connected.
If you don't see LEDs when plugged in - your phone is done.
If you see blinking LEDs - battery terminals might need cleaning/fixing, it usually happens when the battery is out of the phone.

[Q] Dealing with a Nexus One with broken power button

My brother has a Nexus One and just yesterday the power button of the device decided to stop working. The problem is that being a total dumb ass, he decided to turn off the device so he could take the sim card and put it in an other phone. So even though I could just install an app on his phone and call it a day, now I'm stuck with a turned off Nexus that I can't get to power on.
I tried the battery removing and re-inserting trick several times to no avail. I plug it to a usb slot on my pc (I also tried with a charger), and when a green light appears, I remove the battery and insert it back but nothing happens. I tried different timings (as fast as possible, wait for the green light to shut down, wait for the blinking orange/green to come out) but still the phone remains dead. So what on earth am I doing wrong? Also on my Xperia Play the charging light is orange, is the light on Nexus different or does it simply refuses to charge the battery?
Is there a different way to power on the device? If not (and since I absolutely SUCK at soldering) can I just replace the faulty part with this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-Nexus...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3a6d7d3d29
From what I saw in some videos, the above part is easily accessible simply by removing the battery tray. But still I would prefer avoiding opening up the device since knowing my brother he will probably bust the phone in a couple of months anyway.

Not a single reply? Come on fellas, was my question so difficult?

I had multiple nexus ones that had this problem and never found a way to power them on. The last time it happened I warranty claimed it and sold it since I didn't want to deal with this problem once I was out of warranty.
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Your battery is charged, so the light is green.
First plug in the charger, then put in the battery.
Yes, you can replace the flex cable, power button is on it.
All simple answers, if you searched - you should definitely know them. It would have saved you a week of waiting for me to write it.

For me the battery trick only works after the charging light has changed to green and has been green for at least a couple of hours. For me it only works withe th charger plugged into a wall socket never worked when using a multi plug. Also if it doesnt work first go then i have to wait another couple of hours. Oh and the method that works for me is, pull th battery just slightly, green light goes out the quickly slip battery back in.
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I had mine go out on me a few months ago and after a month of pins and needles and keeping a usb battery on hand for those "in case of" moment I just bought a new flex cable. Took all of 30 mins following a guide on youtube and it works great now. It all depends on how long you plan on keeping the nexus one. For me, I had 4 to 5 months until my upgrade, so it seemed worth it. Seeing as there is no news on the GN coming to tmob anytime soon, I might have to hang on a little longer.
Other than that, take the back off and fiddle around with it. Only help I can offer.

is my N1 dead?

Hi,
I've been using my beloved Nexus One since day one, almost 2 years ago.
I now have a GNex so I'm using the N1 only as a GPS in the car, and for android development and testing under android 2.3.
Last time the battery was dying, so I put it on charge (on the original HTC Charger) during the night.
In the morning it was off, and I'm unable to turn it on. It doesn't vibrate when I hold the power button.
I removed the battery and tried again, same.
I tried to plug it, remove the battery and put it back (as it normally boots the device without pressing the power button): same, it won't boot.
I left the device alone for a while, and then after like 30min it was all hot as when I'm heavily using it. Still black screen, no vibrate while pressing the power button.
I tried to plug USB and power it, windows says "the USB device didn't function properly" (translated from french "Le périphérique USB n'a pas fonctionné correctement")
I tried every combination of power, volume up/down, trackball.. nothing...
Any clue?

I have no idea if this will help you it not, but when my OG Milestone overheated one day, it would not respond to anything, much like your phone. I thought it was dead and so I ordered my beloved N1 as a replacement. About a week later, still holding onto a shred of hope, I decided to power on my OG Milestone because I missed it too much. To my surprise, it turned on! It was fully functional after that, and is still working fine. Apparently with Milestones, this was a common thing to have happen if they overheated so none of the internal stuff gets damaged...
Maybe this is your situation also? I hope this gets fixed for you! :-(
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yeah I was thinking leaving it alone for a while. Haven't waited a week yet, though. Hope it's just temporary! I was also thinking of leaving the battery die. Only problem is the overheating, I'm afraid it might damage something inside...
Thanks for the input!

Any result yet. My phone did the same thing