Hallo everyone,I am stuck in a problem for a long time,As you know,X1'ROM is 512 MB,but my device storage space is always about 200 MB though my rom file is usually smaller than 100MB,I thought it should be about 512-100≈400 MB or some Left,I wonder Where does the missing 400-200=200MB space go?and need a way can solve this,THX
Finally I get the reason,Because i use OSBuilder to create Imgfs.bin,and now I use ImgfsFromDump,It is OK now,thanks all the same!
Hmm, I think device memory is slip into 2 sections... 1 is Storage, 1 is Program... Maybe i wrong, but if u should check that in ur X1, Settings---> SD card and Phone Storage.
U will see that there are 2 section for all, Device and SD card, and Device has 2 sections that are Total storage and Total Program.
Hope u understand my English, I'm learning Eng now, so i still practice it
It depends on rom what you are using. The rom file (nbh) is compress so the decompressed size is about 2 times larger. And people usually use the cutomization what starts after rom update. It also uses some space. Just do a hard reset and see how much space is used.
So yes the 200MB is believable.
Shady313 said:
It depends on rom what you are using. The rom file (nbh) is compress so the decompressed size is about 2 times larger. And people usually use the cutomization what starts after rom update. It also uses some space. Just do a hard reset and see how much space is used.
So yes the 200MB is believable.
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thanks for your relpy , And Maybe I did'nt describe it well , I mean when I cooked a rom that is 100 MB then they storage space is 200MB , When rom is 80 MB ,the storage is still 200MB , even 60 MB, no space increase or decrease when rom is smaller or bigger,that's the problem
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I am a bit disappointed on the available flashrom space on the Kaiser. On a machine that is marketed with a whopping 256MB Flashrom, in reality, only ~130MB is available.
Now I understand that the OS and the pre-installed softwares may take up some rom space. However, I can't remember any other device taking up more than 70-80MB max on the rom! Besides, there aren't many software that are built-in to the device!
So where did our space go?!?!?!
Anyone know?
Τhe windows folder after hard reset is 113 mb !!!! I think we need new ROM...
panosha said:
Τhe windows folder after hard reset is 113 mb !!!! I think we need new ROM...
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This is nuts! I can't seem to locate what is using so much space in the windows directory!!!!
There is a mxip_initdb file that takes 16MB!!!
Big thanx,,,, I'm an admirer of Indian Profissonal Works. Someone Cooked the rom and the other fixed my Mobile's board geniusly.
but still I have a problem/s.
1- Some programmes like MMS composer is only installing on the device ,, there is'nt any options to install it in any other disks
2- If I installed any programme in my SD card something weired happened !!
the SD card volume decreased,, the Storage of my device decreased and the programme volume decreased... !!!! why and how !!!
3- How can I merge the Storage and Programmes memories of the device ( not of the storage card ) togther to get only one with a big size..!!
4- what is the benefit of the ram disk can I do some manipulations with it to make my device faster !!!!!
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I have to install many medical books as well as some programmes such as Wisbar's, Resco Pack ( Explorer, Veiwer, Recorder ) , Real & Core Players , MMS Composer and some dictionaries .... etc.
Really 30 mb is not enough...
Another issue,,, I've been searching and exploring everything I can possibly explore to find where the 4 mb of the MMS composer is ?? but I unfortunately found nothing... where a hell it goes !!!
lastly, As I mentioned in the thread above,, I do not need the Ram disk and I need something / ideas to make it useful ?!!
First of all, "Program Memory" is not a place where you can put files. It's required by programs to run, just like RAM is required by your desktop computer. The RAMdisk is RAM used as a virtual storage card. What is called "Storage Memory" is flash memory. This is the root file system, and it's persistent. That means that if you hardreset your device you'll lost everything that's on your RAM (RAMdisk) but not what's on your storage memory. Unfortunately, it is small (32 MByte) and slow, whereas the RAMdisk is very fast. You should install all your programs on RAMdisk, otherwise you will not have enough space and your device will slow down. There's one other thing called "Pagepool". It's a part of RAM used for caching, so that program run faster, but you do not need to worry about it.
So, you can't merge Program Memory and Storage Memory. Both are required by your device to run.
What happened to your SD card is quite strange. Try to format it with a sd card reader on your desktop, and check if there are errors on it.
As far as I know, you won't be able to install the MMS software on RAMdisk or SD card because it needs to be in the \Windows directory to run.
Thanx Brother
Everything is clear now ... but Still there is questions to be asked later hahahah
Oweida said:
I have to install many medical books as well as some programmes such as Wisbar's, Resco Pack ( Explorer, Veiwer, Recorder ) , Real & Core Players , MMS Composer and some dictionaries .... etc.
Really 30 mb is not enough...
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I do not need the Ram disk and I need something / ideas to make it useful ?!!
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1. you do need RAMdisk:
-it's faster than SD card or Storage
-it keeps Storage clean
-in any decent ROM it IS both hard and soft reset persistent, unless you format it at hard reset.
2. 30 MB is more than enough for almost anyone. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338270
I currently have 18 MB free storage with lots of installed programs, plugins, navigators, dictionaries and so on. If I'd really cared, I could probably clean up more.
I just got my Diamond, all is well, but I'm shocked to find out how much RAM and internal storage I have.
The phone is supposed to have 192 MB RAM, 256 MB Internal Storage.
After boot all I have is RAM: 113 MB, Internal Storage : 84 MB
60% of these are already full at the first bootup.
This is shocking. Even my Elfin had more... This is so disappointing...
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I just got my Diamond, all is well, but I'm shocked to find out how much RAM and internal storage I have.
The phone is supposed to have 192 MB RAM, 256 MB Internal Storage.
After boot all I have is RAM: 113 MB, Internal Storage : 84 MB
60% of these are already full at the first bootup.
This is shocking. Even my Elfin had more... This is so disappointing...
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Sure it wasnt used?
Do a hard reset and choose second option.
Backup your data first though
These are the values after the first time I booted up the device, after taking it right out of the package.
What are your values?
Mine was similar on firsst boot as well.
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These are the values after the first time I booted up the device, after taking it right out of the package.
What are your values?
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RAM: 192MB
FLASH: 256 MB
INTERNAL: 3832.48MB
STORAGE: 85MB
Darthbane2k: Is all of that RAM usable?
When I look at the device manager, those are the values that I see too but you can't use most of it.
However, go to settings>memory and tell me what you see there...
1. search
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402747&highlight=memory
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Darthbane2k: Is all of that RAM usable?
When I look at the device manager, those are the values that I see too but you can't use most of it.
However, go to settings>memory and tell me what you see there...
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STORAGE: 85.44 Total / 50.42 in use
PROGRAM 113.07 total / 84.36 in use
Hello all,
I have the Rogers Wireless HTC Touch Diamond, which is advertised with 192 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM and 4 GB internal storage.
When viewing the memory page via Settings-->System (or the drop down menu on the Today screen), it shows total storage memory to be 91.8 MB and total program memory to be 115.0 MB. This doesn't add up to either of the amounts of advertised memory.
I was curious if anyone knows which portion of the memory this information represents - i.e. the RAM or ROM - and where you can find the usage information of the other. I understand the basic concept of RAM vs. ROM, but neither of these figures add up to the advertised 192 MB RAM or 256 MB ROM.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Regards,
Rom
All your data is stored in flash and the flash is not erased if your battery runs flat.
This is called persistent storage.
Flash space in the Pocket PC is split between storage and ROM.
The amount of data or programs you install is limited by the amount of free storage (flash) on your device.
Storage in flash is not compressed.
Due to this design, programs that are installed / stored in flash are copied to RAM to be executed - they occupy twice the space.
The directory of data stored in the boot ROM is merged with the storage flash so the user sees the file system as one.
If a file in the boot ROM is replaced by a file in storage flash the storage flash file is used.
RAM
RAM is dedicated to running programs.
If you attempt to run multiple programs that are "hogs", they may not run or the operating system may close some of them.
The memory management for programs flushes pages of programs that are no longer needed, thus optimizing the use of RAM in the system for other programs to execute.
RAM Cache for Flash Storage
A portion of the RAM is used as a write cache to increase the performance of the mobile device when writing to the flash.
This RAM cache is fixed in size by the OEM and the RAM is not usable for any other purpose.
So before performing a soft reset or removing the battery you must turn the unit off and wait 5-10 seconds. If you fail to do this you may corrupt your internal flash storage.
Condensed by mikechannon from Windows Mobile 5.0 Memory Management Op cit: Chris De Herrera
Mike
Thanks for the reply, Mike; that's some really good info. However, I still don't understand why my memory page is only accounting for 92 MB (storage) + 115 MB (program) when there's supposed to be 192 MB + 256 MB (as listed in the Diamond specs). Where's the balance? I've attached an image for clarification.
Any insight into this would be much appreciated.
Regards,
Out of the 192MB ram (program), 64MB is dedicated GPU (video) memory. So in fact usable ram is around 128mb.
Out of the 256MB Rom, usually about 80-100mb can be attributed to the ROM image (firmware) of the phone and especially since you're is branded (rogers), there are pre-installed goodies (ya right) that are taking up your space as well.
For your reference my phone shows the following:
Storage
Total: 105.17mb
In Use: 82.54mb
Free: 22.63mb
Program:
Total 107.02mb
In use: 76.67MB
Free: 30.35MB
Keep in mind that i'm on a custom ROM so the numbers will be a little off right off the bat.
Perfect! That's the info I was after. I had a feeling the 'missing' memory was attributed to something like this, but now it's all cleared up.
Thanks again.
hi,
i am running CM 7.2.0 RC5.1 KANG on my galaxy mini.
after fighting myself through endless threads i still cannot find the answer to my question. or maybe i have missed something or it was too complicated for me to understand.
many of those memory increasing posts are only for stock roms.
and i want to increase it with cm7 on the phone. is that possible?
i intend to update to the latest official CM in the near future. would it be easier with a clean install?
please share some information ... i have only 20 MB left
Use any app2sd program you prefer.
Most famous and used are s2e, link2sd, etc
As i was on galaxy mini, i used mebiteks rc0 v0.7 cyanogenmod in combination with link2sd and a 512 mb extended partition. It worked flawless.
Just pic your choice and try.
TIP: Make a backup of your current rom. In case something goes wrong you can go back to last state.
Good luck.
thanks for the quick reply.
i am still a bit confused.
in some threads they write: don't use program X, others say never use program Y and some even say never ever use progam Z.
some members report bootloops, some get instant cancer or die right away.
any clues what works "best" with my rom or do i have to go via K.O. System?
What program works best depends on the rom you use.
I believe S2E works fine on that rom.
sorry, perhaps i didn't make myself clear enough.
i have only 5 apps installed (additionally to the cm7 apks)
the other 60+ programs are installed on the sd card.
my question was: how can i INCREASE the 178 mb ram on the galaxy mini.
let's say ... 1 GB ... that would be fine.
as i have mentioned before, those scripts or progs are available for stock rom only.
thairicci said:
sorry, perhaps i didn't make myself clear enough.
i have only 5 apps installed (additionally to the cm7 apks)
the other 60+ programs are installed on the sd card.
my question was: how can i INCREASE the 178 mb ram on the galaxy mini.
let's say ... 1 GB ... that would be fine.
as i have mentioned before, those scripts or progs are available for stock rom only.
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Practically speaking, you cannot increase the 178mb internal memory.. that is a hardware limitation.. what we can do instead is alter how android utilize the internal memory. If you want to see 1GB as your internal memory, amarullz and ungaze scripts can do that. You must have a 1GB sd-ext partition on your sdcard for you to use this scripts. Recommend amarullz though coz ungaze makes things laggy.. to know more and how to use these scripts, do a search in the dev section..
Sent from my GT-S5570
By the way, I guess the one that you are referring to as memory hack that are for stock is the work of DOC.cheilvenerd.org..
Sent from my GT-S5570
why samsung put cellphones so small memory?
i have also memory almost full.
muro321 said:
why samsung put cellphones so small memory?
i have also memory almost full.
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you go to samsung centre and blame it there...
First take a backup of ur sd card content .. As it will wipe of ur sd card !
Go into cwm - select sd card partition - select how much u want to increase ur internal memory-select swap value 64 mb -and then reboot
This is the easiest way to increase internal memory
muro321 said:
why samsung put cellphones so small memory?
i have also memory almost full.
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exactly dude we should have a internel memory like of nokia
Lol ..