[Q] [THINK TANK] External Antenna - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Now I know that not many people want to void their warranties completely by opening up their phone, but does anyone think it would be possible to add an external antenna from a wireless router? Would it even do anything for the phone? I know that it already has an sma connector inside, and I might be willing to try it if I can get my phone apart without ATT knowing I opened it...

The antenna connector that i think you are talking about is accessable by just removing the battery cover. And that connector is not sma. It looks more akin to the style that is used on internal laptop wireless cards. Im not sure what the designation is for that style, but its definately not sma. As far as the question of will it help, it would depend on the antenna type that is used. Your suggestion of a router antenna would not be ideal. Routers work on 2.4 or 5 GHz and their antennas would be cut for that wavelength, not ideal for a device that works around 800 to 1900 mhz. A proper cut wavelength matched antenna could improve reception if the connector on the back is actually a part of the cellular antenna system.
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Its called a U.Fl connector, and is typically used on micro-PCI WiFi radio cards, using a pigtail cable to connect to the WiFi antenna.
I do not know if this connector under the battery cover goes to the WiFi radio, or the cellular radio, but I'd put my money on it going to the cellular radio. I should connect an antenna to it (I have a few of those pigtail cables) and see if my 'bars' go up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirose_U.FL

Samsung Captivate, Galaxy S, SGH-I897 Cell Phone Antenna Adapter Cable

Sorry guys I was looking at some tear down pics that showed a cable with 2 sma connectors on each end for the internal antenna which is on the bottom of the phone...

Can anyone report on the performance of an external antenna?

Why would you even need one? I have good service all around. But i would like to check into this for some scanner mods
O i think the bag phone days are gone. Sucks i know. I know. But its all built into a small unit now. For pockets sake.

smokestack76 said:
Why would you even need one? I have good service all around.
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Not all of us are as fortunate as you are. My phone spends 90% of its time at 2 bars on Edge.

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Anyone try out this Fm Trans / Car Charger

Looks to be just what I'm looking for, Its not going to fit the Titan perfectly but it looks like it would work.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/FM-Transmitter-M...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If anyone has one on a Titan please give us a review.
Chris
well i just bought one so i'll review it when i get it.
I'm curious... let me know how this works... Very curious to see if it works good with the Slingbox. If I could run the audio of the TV through my car speakers... I'm buying it soon after!
THANKS!
Well I got the transmitter yesterday and was initially pleased with the size and appearance. My first disappointment was that it will not charge the device while playing music. That was the point of my purchase. I have sent a question to the seller about this. I may have got a faulty transmitter.
Also the sound has static in the lower range. If you play anything with crunch like metallica, it just sounds like distortion... on top of distortion... This can be reduced by turning down the system vol on the titan and jacking up the radio but you have to remember to reduce the vol on the radio after you finish using the transmitter. The cig. adapter and charging cable is small and discreet and works very well to charge the device but when the charging cable is attached to power the transmitter the device receives no power. Also, the design of the transmitter will not allow you to jury rig power with the solid Y adapter. This would not bother me on short drives but my work makes me drive prolonged distances so the phone would be dead by the time I arrived. Also in situations where GPS is needed you would have to disconnect the transmitter and connect the power adapter to keep it functional.
The mic built into the transmitter works on about the same level as the speaker phone mic.
Tested on:
VW/ 8 speaker Monsoon Radio with aftermarket antenna pre-amp. (2x better than stock antenna pre-amp)
just to add to this...never tired to specific one being discussed but i thought i would share the one i am using found here
The Motorola T505 it works great connects to phone using bluetooth and broadcasts any audio from it to an fm frequency. it pairs with my touch every time and so far no disappointment's...it's a little more expensive but i think it's worth it. Come with a card charger 2 and the battery last pretty good.
"The Motorola T505"
Looks good! Do you mind me asking how much $$ it was?
i got it for 99$ on sale at Future Shop it's regular 129.99.
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do somebody can work it??
Yes it works. I'm still using it but not being able to charge the phone while playing music is its down fall. I'm still looking for the ultimate solution.
Chris
Buy one of these socket splitters and use the dual adapter that you should have received with your phone. That should solve your problem. Note: buy extra fuses for the socket splitter. They tend to pop every now and then.
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Splitter-Adapter-Cigarette-Replaceable/dp/B000O1EAXI
Motorola t505
Just wanted to pipe in that I'm using the T505 and love it. Have had it for almost 8-9 months (I believe I got it from Futureshop as well for about $89). I liked it so much that recommended it to my dad and he bought one. I think they're now much cheaper.

External antenna port

Some of you may not know that there is a hidden external antenna port on the GT540. It it located under the rear cover, near the microphone of the device. It is covered by a tiny grey sticker which you can just peel off. The connector appears to be a Hirose U.FL connector (a common surface-mount RF connector.) To use this, you can build or buy an antenna tuned to your favorite GSM band (e.g. 1.9 GHz) and plug it in to get better reception and improved directionality. If you know exactly where the cellular base station tower is, you can just point a yagi antenna at it to get an excellent signal-to-noise ratio. You can also attach a bidirectional amplifier to your phone to boost the power output, but only if the laws in your country allow you to use an amplifier.
Most phones have an external RF connector for some reason. I don't know why the manufacturers even bother populating the connector on the PCB, because most consumers won't even use it, and the connectors must cost them something. But whatever, at least this benefits everyone here at XDA.
What I want to know is: Does the Bluetooth/WiFi radio connect to this antenna port as well as the GSM radio, or is it just the GSM radio?
I currently do not have the connectors to test this, but if the internal antenna is multiplexed between the GSM and WiFi radios, I suspect that the external antenna port will be multiplexed as well. This would mean that you could use the external antenna port to snipe WiFi access points.
I just need to get an RP-SMA Male to U.FL Male adapter so I can test the phone with a yagi antenna cut for WiFi.
So, does anybody already use the external port on their GT540?
I've always wanted to know what one of those was seen it on loads of phones, cool info, but i cant help you
Differentiation?
Can the availibility of the port differ from country to country or market to market?
oakwhiz said:
Some of you may not know that there is a hidden external antenna port on the GT540. It it located under the rear cover, near the microphone of the device. It is covered by a tiny grey sticker which you can just peel off. The connector appears to be a Hirose U.FL connector (a common surface-mount RF connector.) To use this, you can build or buy an antenna tuned to your favorite GSM band (e.g. 1.9 GHz) and plug it in to get better reception and improved directionality. If you know exactly where the cellular base station tower is, you can just point a yagi antenna at it to get an excellent signal-to-noise ratio. You can also attach a bidirectional amplifier to your phone to boost the power output, but only if the laws in your country allow you to use an amplifier.
Most phones have an external RF connector for some reason. I don't know why the manufacturers even bother populating the connector on the PCB, because most consumers won't even use it, and the connectors must cost them something. But whatever, at least this benefits everyone here at XDA.
What I want to know is: Does the Bluetooth/WiFi radio connect to this antenna port as well as the GSM radio, or is it just the GSM radio?
I currently do not have the connectors to test this, but if the internal antenna is multiplexed between the GSM and WiFi radios, I suspect that the external antenna port will be multiplexed as well. This would mean that you could use the external antenna port to snipe WiFi access points.
I just need to get an RP-SMA Male to U.FL Male adapter so I can test the phone with a yagi antenna cut for WiFi.
So, does anybody already use the external port on their GT540?
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Please could you exactly post links what I will need to buy.
I can't see it on mine
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jhonnyx1000 said:
Can the availibility of the port differ from country to country or market to market?
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Bought mine off vodafone NZ as well. A black sticker is hiding it instead.
*not sure whether it differs country by country
I might have a go at modifying the phone cradle in my car so I can use the external antenna that a previous owner had fitted. It even has the right connector on the end inside the car.
I know you wanted links on what you need will try to find out but....
This is very interesting im off to do a bit of research ( I have one on my lg )
oakwhiz said:
Some of you may not know that there is a hidden external antenna port on the GT540. It it located under the rear cover, near the microphone of the device. It is covered by a tiny grey sticker which you can just peel off. The connector appears to be a Hirose U.FL connector (a common surface-mount RF connector.) To use this, you can build or buy an antenna tuned to your favorite GSM band (e.g. 1.9 GHz) and plug it in to get better reception and improved directionality. If you know exactly where the cellular base station tower is, you can just point a yagi antenna at it to get an excellent signal-to-noise ratio. You can also attach a bidirectional amplifier to your phone to boost the power output, but only if the laws in your country allow you to use an amplifier.
Most phones have an external RF connector for some reason. I don't know why the manufacturers even bother populating the connector on the PCB, because most consumers won't even use it, and the connectors must cost them something. But whatever, at least this benefits everyone here at XDA.
What I want to know is: Does the Bluetooth/WiFi radio connect to this antenna port as well as the GSM radio, or is it just the GSM radio?
I currently do not have the connectors to test this, but if the internal antenna is multiplexed between the GSM and WiFi radios, I suspect that the external antenna port will be multiplexed as well. This would mean that you could use the external antenna port to snipe WiFi access points.
I just need to get an RP-SMA Male to U.FL Male adapter so I can test the phone with a yagi antenna cut for WiFi.
So, does anybody already use the external port on their GT540?
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Found it! It was under a black sticker. I'm in UK - any annoying laws?
Where can I get the things?
Sent from my LG GT540 with mur4ik's swift Droid 2, RC5.
liamwilli said:
Found it! It was under a black sticker. I'm in UK - any annoying laws?
Where can I get the things?
Sent from my LG GT540 with mur4ik's swift Droid 2, RC5.
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I've connected external antenna and there is no difference in WiFi signal. This port is only for GSM.
liamwilli said:
Found it! It was under a black sticker. I'm in UK - any annoying laws?
Where can I get the things?
Sent from my LG GT540 with mur4ik's swift Droid 2, RC5.
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I'd just like to point out that it's illegal to attach external antennas to consumer radio transmitters in most countries unless you have a license from your local government. This port is likely there for engineering and quality control purposes - perhaps the phone is powered up in test mode at the factory while the RF output is connected to a vector analyzer to see if the output meets RF emission standards. I've also heard that the port itself is not rated for more than a few hundred insertion cycles, and that it can get stuck in the disconnected position.

Anyone do Wireless Charging Mod with Atrix HD?

I have plans on doing this mod, but was wondering if anyone also has tried and had either success or failure. Wondering if I should waste my time.
As far as I know the mod is done by using the Palm Pixi coil and connecting the VCC from the phone to the positive terminal on the palm pixi and grounding it somewhere on the phone.
I checked the internal of the phone to see an alternate spot for VCC that would make it easy to route the wire from the phone to the pixi coil terminal and I found a small part that would give me just enough space to run a small wire.
I am not a professional so if anyone sees me saying things that arent gonna work, let me know please.
Thanks
As a test, I am going to cut one end off a micro usb cord and plug the other end to phone.
I will solder the +5v and Ground to the pixi terminals and see if that atleast works.
What do you mean wireless charging?
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Far as I know we do not have an induction service on this phone to do wireless charging. It would require a different battery and some extra to get that to work.
popfan said:
Far as I know we do not have an induction service on this phone to do wireless charging. It would require a different battery and some extra to get that to work.
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I am talking about doing a mod, not something natively.
Good luck then. Most likely the average reader will not be able to install something as complex as wireless charging into their phone.
Hate to break it to you, but it wont work. I attempted the mod and it just wouldnt work and I did it perfectly. I work with integrated circuits, so I know what I am doing. See the photo, I used copper tape to go the two positive and negative prongs on the battery to the Palm Pixi coil.
Too bad, I really wanted it to work.
baberswallet said:
Hate to break it to you, but it wont work. I attempted the mod and it just wouldnt work and I did it perfectly. I work with integrated circuits, so I know what I am doing. See the photo, I used copper tape to go the two positive and negative prongs on the battery to the Palm Pixi coil.
Too bad, I really wanted it to work.
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That is not how you do the mod at all, not sure why you thought it was done that way.
shanghei said:
That is not how you do the mod at all, not sure why you thought it was done that way.
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No, you are wrong, the way I did the mod is the correct way to do it. You connect the positive and negative terminal of the palm pixi to the battery like my picture shows. The reason why it does not work is because the battery doesn't have the wireless charging chip in it like the Galaxy S3.
The wireless modding chip is called "NFC". They do sell some NFC stickers I saw on ebay, by putting one of those stickers on battery it might work but I dont feel like messing with it anymore.
Before you say I did it wrong , remember who you are talking to, I did 100 PS2 mods back in the day.
baberswallet said:
no, you are wrong, the way i did the mod is the correct way to do it. You connect the positive and negative terminal of the palm pixi to the battery like my picture shows. The reason why it does not work is because the battery doesn't have the wireless charging chip in it like the galaxy s3.
The wireless modding chip is called "nfc". They do sell some nfc stickers i saw on ebay, by putting one of those stickers on battery it might work but i dont feel like messing with it anymore.
Before you say i did it wrong , remember who you are talking to, i did 100 ps2 mods back in the day.
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baberswallet said:
No, you are wrong, the way I did the mod is the correct way to do it. You connect the positive and negative terminal of the palm pixi to the battery like my picture shows. The reason why it does not work is because the battery doesn't have the wireless charging chip in it like the Galaxy S3.
The wireless modding chip is called "NFC". They do sell some NFC stickers I saw on ebay, by putting one of those stickers on battery it might work but I dont feel like messing with it anymore.
Before you say I did it wrong , remember who you are talking to, I did 100 PS2 mods back in the day.
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NFC is not required for wireless charging to work. For the Palm Touchstone charger, all that was replaced on the phone was the battery cover. The Palm did not have NFC.
cajunaggie87 said:
NFC is not required for wireless charging to work. For the Palm Touchstone charger, all that was replaced on the phone was the battery cover. The Palm did not have NFC.
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I bought the palm pixi phone trying to get this mod to work with the AHD and I remember seeing the NFC
baberswallet said:
I bought the palm pixi phone trying to get this mod to work with the AHD and I remember seeing the NFC
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No no no.... NFC wasn't in the palm pixi from two years ago.
All the mod is is a little coil that goes on the inside of the battery cover. Our inspire/dhd phones even had the mod and there was most definitely not NFC on board.
That being said is there enough room with the battery in there to do the mod?
Youngunn2008 said:
No no no.... NFC wasn't in the palm pixi from two years ago.
All the mod is is a little coil that goes on the inside of the battery cover. Our inspire/dhd phones even had the mod and there was most definitely not NFC on board.
That being said is there enough room with the battery in there to do the mod?
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theres definitely enough room if youre using the stock eb20, maybe not with the eb40
Even if it doesnt have NFC, you can buy the NFC stickers on ebay to add function.
baberswallet said:
I bought the palm pixi phone trying to get this mod to work with the AHD and I remember seeing the NFC
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I had a Palm Pre Plus with the touchstone charger, and it did not have NFC. NFC is not required for this type of wireless charging to work.
Ok guys, I did the mod tonight, and could use some assistance.
I hooked up the positive of the palm pixi coil to a +5 on the Atrix HD board, and when I place the coil on the charger, it does send power to that +5 spot on board but it doesnt actually allow the phone to charge unless the phone detects an actual USB port plugged into phone.
Anyone know some way around this ?
shanghei said:
Ok guys, I did the mod tonight, and could use some assistance.
I hooked up the positive of the palm pixi coil to a +5 on the Atrix HD board, and when I place the coil on the charger, it does send power to that +5 spot on board but it doesnt actually allow the phone to charge unless the phone detects an actual USB port plugged into phone.
Anyone know some way around this ?
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So, if you try and charge with the touchstone, and then plug in a USB cable to the phone (but the other end of the cable is not plugged into anything), then it will charge?
cajunaggie87 said:
So, if you try and charge with the touchstone, and then plug in a USB cable to the phone (but the other end of the cable is not plugged into anything), then it will charge?
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Yes, exactly.
shanghei said:
Yes, exactly.
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It sounds like the process of plugging in a USB cable creates a short across 2 (or more) pins that tells the phone that a USB cable is plugged in. You test for continuity when the usb cable is plugged in to see what pins are connected to each other, and then create a permanent short across these pins so that the phone thinks that a usb cable is always plugged in. But, this could also cause other problems. So, if you were to do this, I would create a short that is temporary (so that it will stay, but can be removed) and test other functions of the phone (see if data on SD card can be used, see if the phone can be turned off, etc)

[HELP] TouchPad fallen down. now not charging.

My touchpad was in a bicycle and was getting charged. My cousin placed the TP on a bicycly after the battery is about 43% and was charging.
He accidently shaked the bicycle and the touchpad was falled from the bicyle in the position where the charging port is connected.
Now it shows charging, but not charging. I plugged the charger at 41% and it came to 37% after 15-30 mins with the charger plugged.
Please help. Any DIY work that can fixthe touhpad or make the touchpad charge?
Thanks
Helps are appreciated.
Invest in a touchstone wireless charger. After the USB port went bad on one of my previous touchpads, it was a no brainer.
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How to transfer files?
siralsmooth said:
Invest in a touchstone wireless charger. After the USB port went bad on one of my previous touchpads, it was a no brainer.
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In webOS, when I connect it to a PC, it shows "Device May Not Charge"
How to transfer files?? Can I transfer files through touchstone? sorry for noob question.
Charging only. But in android you can use es file explorer to browse network shares and transfer over wifi.
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siralsmooth said:
Charging only. But in android you can use es file explorer to browse network shares and transfer over wifi.
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What do you think about the problem? Can I fix it in some local shops? How much do they ask?
Thanks for your INFOs.
With a donor tablet, you could probably have it fixed. In my opinion, unless its a 32gb, 4g, or 64gb model, its cheaper to just replace it. When I sold my 64gb with all the extras, I was disappointed to see how low the value had dropped. Personally I would go the touchstone route, and in the meantime, find a cell phone repair shop that isn't afraid of surface soldering and have the connector replaced. No idea on costs, but the microusb connector is about a 3$ part. Only problem would be if the PCB was cracked, thus my thoughts on a donor tablet to just swap the sub board assembly with USB port.
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siralsmooth said:
With a donor tablet, you could probably have it fixed. In my opinion, unless its a 32gb, 4g, or 64gb model, its cheaper to just replace it. When I sold my 64gb with all the extras, I was disappointed to see how low the value had dropped. Personally I would go the touchstone route, and in the meantime, find a cell phone repair shop that isn't afraid of surface soldering and have the connector replaced. No idea on costs, but the microusb connector is about a 3$ part. Only problem would be if the PCB was cracked, thus my thoughts on a donor tablet to just swap the sub board assembly with USB port.
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Ok now imagine that i am in a cell phone repair shop. I tell the repairing man that the tablet has fallen down with the charging position downwards and now its not charging. Will he fix the problem? Time duration as my father needs it in 4-5 hrs.
superboy123 said:
Ok now imagine that i am in a cell phone repair shop. I tell the repairing man that the tablet has fallen down with the charging position downwards and now its not charging. Will he fix the problem? Time duration as my father needs it in 4-5 hrs.
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You are from Chennai right? Go to any cell phone repair shop and ask them to fix charging port. It is a common problem in phones, and they might even have spare microUSB ports. I repaired one in Mumbai when I was there in Jan, and since I just re-soldered my existing port, and already had the unit open, AND I knew the repair guy, he only charged me Rs. 30 (~50 cents ), ONLY for soldering.
But if you don't want to open the touchpad on your own, and dont want to mess around, you can expect them to fix it for something like Rs. 200-300.
If they ask for more, tell them it is a cheap made in china (sorry, no offense intended) replica and you didn't even pay too much for it People usually don't know about Touchpads here.
You can also try those small shops that repair TVs or Radios, sometimes they also repair for cheap.
rahulisola said:
You are from Chennai right? Go to any cell phone repair shop and ask them to fix charging port. It is a common problem in phones, and they might even have spare microUSB ports. I repaired one in Mumbai when I was there in Jan, and since I just re-soldered my existing port, and already had the unit open, AND I knew the repair guy, he only charged me Rs. 30 (~50 cents ), ONLY for soldering.
But if you don't want to open the touchpad on your own, and dont want to mess around, you can expect them to fix it for something like Rs. 200-300.
If they ask for more, tell them it is a cheap made in china (sorry, no offense intended) replica and you didn't even pay too much for it People usually don't know about Touchpads here.
You can also try those small shops that repair TVs or Radios, sometimes they also repair for cheap.
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Thank you sir. You saved my life. I went to a shop and gave a 350 Rs and repaired. I said it as a china replica as you mentioned but he said that the quality is like a U.S or U.K made. So, He got the money mentioned above. Again Thank you so much.

Replacement cable?

My extender cable is dead, the CC is too bulky to plug into the TV but it still connects to WIFI.
Any idea where to get a replacement cable from?
MadBob said:
My extender cable is dead, the CC is too bulky to plug into the TV but it still connects to WIFI.
Any idea where to get a replacement cable from?
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Pretty much nothing to it but an HDMI extension cable...
http://mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=4312
Just one such source but shop around I bet there are even cheaper options for you...That was just the first link I found.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=131084082227&alt=web
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I ended up with this after a few other (poorer) replacements, it is a swivel adaptor. http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_t...l+hdmi+adaptor+male+female&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Slightly more compact than the original cable, way more flexible, and really cheap!
MadBob said:
I ended up with this after a few other (poorer) replacements, it is a swivel adaptor. http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_t...l+hdmi+adaptor+male+female&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Slightly more compact than the original cable, way more flexible, and really cheap!
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Fine if you were only using the extension because it was hard to plug in...
But Those Swivel things break easily and it probably doesn't extend the unit far enough away to solve any reception issues which was the other purpose for the extension cable.
But if it works great!
Asphyx said:
... and it probably doesn't extend the unit far enough away to solve any reception issues which was the other purpose for the extension cable.
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ditto to that. I have 3 chromecasts and all of them got poor reception being stuck behind the TV's. It caused constant disconnecting from apps like netflix and plex. I switched them all over to a 3ft hdmi cable and moved them from behind the tv and it made a world of difference. And they're $3.50 including shipping from a USA address on ebay.
Asphyx said:
Fine if you were only using the extension because it was hard to plug in...
But Those Swivel things break easily and it probably doesn't extend the unit far enough away to solve any reception issues which was the other purpose for the extension cable.
But if it works great!
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Yeah CC won't plug without extension, and no connectivity issues with my router and the CC behind TV.

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