I have plans on doing this mod, but was wondering if anyone also has tried and had either success or failure. Wondering if I should waste my time.
As far as I know the mod is done by using the Palm Pixi coil and connecting the VCC from the phone to the positive terminal on the palm pixi and grounding it somewhere on the phone.
I checked the internal of the phone to see an alternate spot for VCC that would make it easy to route the wire from the phone to the pixi coil terminal and I found a small part that would give me just enough space to run a small wire.
I am not a professional so if anyone sees me saying things that arent gonna work, let me know please.
Thanks
As a test, I am going to cut one end off a micro usb cord and plug the other end to phone.
I will solder the +5v and Ground to the pixi terminals and see if that atleast works.
What do you mean wireless charging?
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Far as I know we do not have an induction service on this phone to do wireless charging. It would require a different battery and some extra to get that to work.
popfan said:
Far as I know we do not have an induction service on this phone to do wireless charging. It would require a different battery and some extra to get that to work.
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I am talking about doing a mod, not something natively.
Good luck then. Most likely the average reader will not be able to install something as complex as wireless charging into their phone.
Hate to break it to you, but it wont work. I attempted the mod and it just wouldnt work and I did it perfectly. I work with integrated circuits, so I know what I am doing. See the photo, I used copper tape to go the two positive and negative prongs on the battery to the Palm Pixi coil.
Too bad, I really wanted it to work.
baberswallet said:
Hate to break it to you, but it wont work. I attempted the mod and it just wouldnt work and I did it perfectly. I work with integrated circuits, so I know what I am doing. See the photo, I used copper tape to go the two positive and negative prongs on the battery to the Palm Pixi coil.
Too bad, I really wanted it to work.
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That is not how you do the mod at all, not sure why you thought it was done that way.
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That is not how you do the mod at all, not sure why you thought it was done that way.
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No, you are wrong, the way I did the mod is the correct way to do it. You connect the positive and negative terminal of the palm pixi to the battery like my picture shows. The reason why it does not work is because the battery doesn't have the wireless charging chip in it like the Galaxy S3.
The wireless modding chip is called "NFC". They do sell some NFC stickers I saw on ebay, by putting one of those stickers on battery it might work but I dont feel like messing with it anymore.
Before you say I did it wrong , remember who you are talking to, I did 100 PS2 mods back in the day.
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no, you are wrong, the way i did the mod is the correct way to do it. You connect the positive and negative terminal of the palm pixi to the battery like my picture shows. The reason why it does not work is because the battery doesn't have the wireless charging chip in it like the galaxy s3.
The wireless modding chip is called "nfc". They do sell some nfc stickers i saw on ebay, by putting one of those stickers on battery it might work but i dont feel like messing with it anymore.
Before you say i did it wrong , remember who you are talking to, i did 100 ps2 mods back in the day.
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baberswallet said:
No, you are wrong, the way I did the mod is the correct way to do it. You connect the positive and negative terminal of the palm pixi to the battery like my picture shows. The reason why it does not work is because the battery doesn't have the wireless charging chip in it like the Galaxy S3.
The wireless modding chip is called "NFC". They do sell some NFC stickers I saw on ebay, by putting one of those stickers on battery it might work but I dont feel like messing with it anymore.
Before you say I did it wrong , remember who you are talking to, I did 100 PS2 mods back in the day.
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NFC is not required for wireless charging to work. For the Palm Touchstone charger, all that was replaced on the phone was the battery cover. The Palm did not have NFC.
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NFC is not required for wireless charging to work. For the Palm Touchstone charger, all that was replaced on the phone was the battery cover. The Palm did not have NFC.
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I bought the palm pixi phone trying to get this mod to work with the AHD and I remember seeing the NFC
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I bought the palm pixi phone trying to get this mod to work with the AHD and I remember seeing the NFC
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No no no.... NFC wasn't in the palm pixi from two years ago.
All the mod is is a little coil that goes on the inside of the battery cover. Our inspire/dhd phones even had the mod and there was most definitely not NFC on board.
That being said is there enough room with the battery in there to do the mod?
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No no no.... NFC wasn't in the palm pixi from two years ago.
All the mod is is a little coil that goes on the inside of the battery cover. Our inspire/dhd phones even had the mod and there was most definitely not NFC on board.
That being said is there enough room with the battery in there to do the mod?
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theres definitely enough room if youre using the stock eb20, maybe not with the eb40
Even if it doesnt have NFC, you can buy the NFC stickers on ebay to add function.
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I bought the palm pixi phone trying to get this mod to work with the AHD and I remember seeing the NFC
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I had a Palm Pre Plus with the touchstone charger, and it did not have NFC. NFC is not required for this type of wireless charging to work.
Ok guys, I did the mod tonight, and could use some assistance.
I hooked up the positive of the palm pixi coil to a +5 on the Atrix HD board, and when I place the coil on the charger, it does send power to that +5 spot on board but it doesnt actually allow the phone to charge unless the phone detects an actual USB port plugged into phone.
Anyone know some way around this ?
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Ok guys, I did the mod tonight, and could use some assistance.
I hooked up the positive of the palm pixi coil to a +5 on the Atrix HD board, and when I place the coil on the charger, it does send power to that +5 spot on board but it doesnt actually allow the phone to charge unless the phone detects an actual USB port plugged into phone.
Anyone know some way around this ?
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So, if you try and charge with the touchstone, and then plug in a USB cable to the phone (but the other end of the cable is not plugged into anything), then it will charge?
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So, if you try and charge with the touchstone, and then plug in a USB cable to the phone (but the other end of the cable is not plugged into anything), then it will charge?
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Yes, exactly.
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Yes, exactly.
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It sounds like the process of plugging in a USB cable creates a short across 2 (or more) pins that tells the phone that a USB cable is plugged in. You test for continuity when the usb cable is plugged in to see what pins are connected to each other, and then create a permanent short across these pins so that the phone thinks that a usb cable is always plugged in. But, this could also cause other problems. So, if you were to do this, I would create a short that is temporary (so that it will stay, but can be removed) and test other functions of the phone (see if data on SD card can be used, see if the phone can be turned off, etc)
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Okay, like a lot of people I have been watching the induction chargers with a keen eye, waiting for a reputable company to deliver a worthwhile solution.
Then I saw that the Duracell MyGrid was on sale on Amazon(.co.uk) for £19.99, with connectors costing £15.99. Brilliant! Right?
There is not a HTC Leo specific connector, but you can purchase a Micro-USB connector which will allow you to charge your HD2 via the MyGrid powermat. At this point, I was reaching for my wallet!
Before purchasing, however, I chose to see if anyone had reviewed the product. Im thankful I did...
It turns out the connector you attach to your device is permanently attached (glued I expect). This means that if you need to replace your phone, you need to buy a new connector. It also means your phone probably won't fit into car handsfree kits anymore.
Now for the killer. It is possible to disconnect the connector from the Micro-USB port, but this is by no means easy and leaves the connector pins vulnerable. This means your Micro-USB port is always in use. Want to plug your phone in on a train? Use a car kit? Use a conventional charger? SYNC/UPDATE FIRMWARE by plugging into a PC? Tough poopie!
In summary: Does an induction charger for the HTC HD2 exist? Yes. But iff you want to do anything with your phoen other than charge it, don't buy one.
powermat
http://www.powermat.com/us/receiver-door-for-htc-hd2.html
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http://www.powermat.com/us/receiver-door-for-htc-hd2.html
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Thanks.
looking on the uk part of the site they dont show the hd2 battery cover or a lot of the other things that are on the us site.
anybody got one of these powermats, how long would it take to charge the standard hd2 battery from flat?
i bought one as my usb connector was fried and out of warranty. havent used it for a full charge yet but it seems pretty quick
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In summary: Does an induction charger for the HTC HD2 exist? Yes. But iff you want to do anything with your phoen other than charge it, don't buy one.
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So, you would say this charger makes no sense? Sorry, but there's no induction charging which works like a WiFi and you can move where you want while charging.
Is it possible to charge the Touchpad with one of the original Palm Touchstones? I can't get hold of an actual Touchpad one so I'm limited to the little phone Touchstone.
Any idea if it will work?
I tried it earlier and could not get it to work. Maybe it could be modidied some how, but I havnt taken it apart.
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The old Palm Touchstones don't work. Not enough power.
Has anyone tried using the power adapter from the touchpad, then connect that to the Palm touchstone to give it more juice?
Also, from an internal photo of the Touchpad it seem as if the receiver/coil/conductor/doodaddy/thingy is not central in the unit so perhaps it depends greatly on where you position the touchpad onto the touchstone?
Heres a photo of the internals:
www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?tag=content;siu-container
(Sorry, you'll have to put the URL back together as Im a new user and cant post links yet apparantly)
I assume that the greyish pad with the rounded corners is most likely the charging receiver (coil??) so that should give a better idea of where to place the touchstone. You should be able to figure out where it is based on the position of the buttons in that image.
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Using a Touchstone from the pre
you can get a touchstone for the pre pretty cheep (around $10). I know it's small, but would it work on the touchpad? maybe i can construct some type of larger holder with the pre's touchstone attached to the right spot. could someone who has both test it out and see it it does change the touchpad?
It will not work
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do you know why?
iirc, the pre uses 1A (5V), while the touchpad uses 2A (5V).
not sure the coils are at the same size, so you may not get efficient charging (if at all.)
Craig
It won't work. I tried with both the Pre plug and the Touchpad plug. Doesn't matter where you place the Pre Touchstone on the back of the Touchpad, it won't see it and won't go into charge mode.
The induction charger from my toothbrush doesn't work either, just in case anyone thought of trying it (not my toothbrush charger but your own...)
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The induction charger from my toothbrush doesn't work either, just in case anyone thought of trying it (not my toothbrush charger but your own...)
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Well played sir.
How about stacking/using two together to provide enough power?
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How about stacking/using two together to provide enough power?
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I LOL'ed..... Although Im not sure if he was joking....
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I LOL'ed..... Although Im not sure if he was joking....
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This is the great thing about living in America; If it doesn't work the first time, build it BIGGER!
I actually have 6 of them... I should definitely try it.
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I actually have 6 of them... I should definitely try it.
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I heard if you attach them to car jumper cables is works.... But you will need to use all 6 of them.
I read that it does not work. Touchstones are cheap now at $39, not the $90 they used to be. Just buy a touchstone.
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iirc, the pre uses 1A (5V), while the touchpad uses 2A (5V).
not sure the coils are at the same size, so you may not get efficient charging (if at all.)
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What about using 2 Palm Touchstone chargers??
or two toothbrush chargers?
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How about stacking/using two together to provide enough power?
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I'll have to thank you for that just because it made me totally lol and I'm having a bad day.
If you're impatient like me, here's a DIY $13 mod I did to make the extended battery wireless charging enabled. Presumably works on all charging mats as the whole idea behind Qi is a universal standard.
http://uselesspuzzles.blogspot.com/2011/09/droid-bionic-optimizations-extended-bat.html
Photos and videos at the bottom of the post.
Here's the main video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR7egtQl-Zg
I moved the coil a little bit so the connection was more secure after the video. Works without issue.
I bought like 5 touchstones so I can have one in my home office, office office, bedroom, living room, etc.
Do you know if the touchstone works with the VZW inductive charging back for the standard battery?
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Do you know if the touchstone works with the VZW inductive charging back for the standard battery?
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honestly i havent really read into the different technologies used... so no idea
my guess is if it did work it would probably not be as good an experience as the magnets are probably not placed in the same alignment (so the phone won't know exactly where to attach giving a sub-optimal placement)
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Looks pretty nice, I happened to have the soldering supplies and wire might do this myself. How is the charging time as I can't find the output for the touchstones anywhere. Would you still recommend it after having it for a while now?
nah don't do it
it has to be perfectly aligned to charge properly- from what i've read the real bionic backplate works even through cases-
i'd say wait for a better version that is less finicky
or make one with the bionic reg. battery wireless charging door like i plan to
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it has to be perfectly aligned to charge properly- from what i've read the real bionic backplate works even through cases-
i'd say wait for a better version that is less finicky
or make one with the bionic reg. battery wireless charging door like i plan to
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I'd like that. I tried my bionic with the inductive charging door on the touchstone, and I couldn't get it to work, so this mod would be great. I hate the LG charging mat for the bionic
Do you know if this was a tight squeeze in the extended battery door? Also, does this mean you cannot take the door off anymore?
Hey guys, i know older post...has anyone done this with the reg battery?
If so, what kind of chargign times are u getting? ALso, are u usign the Palm mat or some other mat.
My intention is to use this with teh standard battery, and battery cover, so i can still use gel case
i'm still waiting for the long promised true wireless charging where the same towers that supply us our signal also charge our phones.
it's barbaric that we're still having to plug in somewhere to charge. what century is this anyway !!?!?
voxigenboy said:
i'm still waiting for the long promised true wireless charging where the same towers that supply us our signal also charge our phones.
it's barbaric that we're still having to plug in somewhere to charge. what century is this anyway !!?!?
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Specially since Tesla had this idea a longgggg time ago. Sure would be nice...
Very nice
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I did this using the stock charging cover for the bionic.
It works perfect but you need a Qi compatible pad. After searching I found one on ebay for 35 bucks. The only problem is it makes removing the battery difficult. My next project is to see if I can make the mod so it works just like the production cover.
This phone would have been more perfect with wireless charging built in, anyone agree?
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Yes, it would have been better, but you don't have to make a thread about this...
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Well even though it doesn't I've found this http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/qi-micro-usb-wireless-charging-adapter-clip-p37404.htm , so technically it could. And appologies.
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Why do you need this?
Is less comfort then wire chargh.
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It doesn't have wireless charging but the dock that comes free with the phone in some areas doesn't need to plug into the phone and must do it wirelessly or via pins just beneath the backing I suppose
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It doesn't have wireless charging but the dock that comes free with the phone in some areas doesn't need to plug into the phone and must do it wirelessly or via pins just beneath the backing I suppose
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That's sounds ok
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It doesn't have wireless charging but the dock that comes free with the phone in some areas doesn't need to plug into the phone and must do it wirelessly or via pins just beneath the backing I suppose
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There are 2 contacts on the left hand side of the phone which get used with the dock. They are power only - not USB or HDMI. There is *no* wireless charging in this phone.
M.
mattman83 said:
There are 2 contacts on the left hand side of the phone which get used with the dock. They are power only - not USB or HDMI. There is *no* wireless charging in this phone.
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Nokias wireless charger works with all phones that have NFC, looks like i will be buying that then!
From what I've seen wireless charging is presently a bit dodgy anyway, perhaps Sony are just waiting for the tech to settle down a bit before introducing it. I don't think I'll be going for wireless charging with my N4 any time soon.
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Nokias wireless charger works with all phones that have NFC, looks like i will be buying that then!
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I don't think so. It has NFC so that you can launch a task when you put your phone to charge, but it's still based on the Qi wireless charging spec which means the phone has to be compatible too.
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mattman83 said:
I don't think so. It has NFC so that you can launch a task when you put your phone to charge, but it's still based on the Qi wireless charging spec which means the phone has to be compatible too.
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just looked in to it, sorry your right, i had read somewere without looking it up. My bad!
@OP: Why would you want wireless charging in the first place? It's just a gimmick it might be nice to have but, when you don't have it you won't miss it either way.
Same with 3d also a gimmick, we can live perfectly without 3d movies etc. Even though 3d movies can be quite nice to see.
Inappropriate thread.
Reported to mod.
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Inappropriate thread.
Reported to mod.
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wireless charging is not comfortable for daily uses
I had a Droid DNA and hated the wireless charging. For one you have to pay upwards of $25-$50 for a wireless charging pad, charging takes several times longer, the phone/battery get hot while using it, which will probably lead to shortened battery life, and it's not like you can use your phone while wireless charging since if it moves more than a few millimeters off the pad it stops, versus wired where you are limited only to the length of the wire.
Isnt wireless charging jsut putting the phone on a "dock"? Like my cordless phone? or the old nokia's where u had to put it on a charging dock? Ppl behave as those it is sending microwaves to your phone within a certain radius and the phone magically charges...and if it were like that I would be afraid of nuking my insides lol
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Isnt wireless charging jsut putting the phone on a "dock"? Like my cordless phone? or the old nokia's where u had to put it on a charging dock? Ppl behave as those it is sending microwaves to your phone within a certain radius and the phone magically charges...and if it were like that I would be afraid of nuking my insides lol
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Exactly my thought. It's wireless, but you have to put your phone on a mat... i really prefer putting my phone on a dock, and the one for Xperia Z is very good because there is no "port" that might go loose with time, just two metal pins that are touching the charger pins.
For those in doubt - here is the dock Sony will release to go with this phone - Not quite wireless charging but nearly. Having seen this it has convinced me to get the phone - the thought of fiddling with the port covers in the dark every night to conect the charger was putting me off (my gf goes to bed before me so I can't put the light on).
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/charging-dock-dk26/
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For those in doubt - here is the dock Sony will release to go with this phone - Not quite wireless charging but nearly. Having seen this it has convinced me to get the phone - the thought of fiddling with the port covers in the dark every night to conect the charger was putting me off (my gf goes to bed before me so I can't put the light on).
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/charging-dock-dk26/
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Price is supposed to be ~35£. Could be cheaper, but it's not that bad.
My dock has been charging my phone perfectly for weeks, the other day I came in and plopped the phone on the dock and nothing.
I checked the pogo pins (of the dock) with a multimeter, they are working. I've tried different power sources for the dock as well (wall adapter, pc, other cables).
I've checked to make sure the pins are making contact with the phone, good solid contact.
I haven't changed anything on the phone recently, any suggestions?
The phone charges fine through USB.
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since i apparently posted this on the apple forums instead of xda, all the replies were "shoulda bought apple products"
so anyone having this problem, i solved it by reinstalling a nand backup. apparently it was a software issue. hopefully this saves you from the apple fanboys.
do you have original sony cradle? i had chinese replica and it did not work all times.
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do you have original sony cradle? i had chinese replica and it did not work all times.
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No, I was too impatient for it and got the goosewhite dock, besides I like the looks of it better tbh. The dock is putting out power, I don't get why it's not charging. its not a complex system at all.
Get the Sony one if you don't want the same issue occurring.
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why would changing the dock have anything to do with the problem? when voltage is applied to the pogo pins, the phone does not charge. how would changing the dock i use make a difference in that at all?
i would understand if the pogo pins were putting out less power or no power, but they put in exactly the amount of power going into the dock, they make good solid contact, i've check continuity and its making a solid connection...
Then take the dock apart and see if anything got loose
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why would changing the dock have anything to do with the problem?
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Because the one you've bought is rubbish!
I brought this as an alternative to the Sony DK26 because I was sick of opening the flap everytime I wanted to charge my phone. It does fit the Xperia Z and looks nice enough. It also activates the dock mode and the Xperia's smart connect function. This is why I gave it 1 star. HOWEVER, it outputs at 500mA as opposed to the 1800mA delivered by the Sony dock. This means it charges your phone incredibly slowly. I had my phone on the dock charging for 11 Hours and it managed to deliver a battery charge of just 51% which is ridiculous compared to the Sony charger which delivers a 100% charge in 2 hours.
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Because the one you've bought is rubbish!
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+1
I do not get why would anyone go for something cheaper and unreliable. Its like those iPhone users buying cheap non original cables to charge their iPhones, ended up causing the phone to blow up or messed up and blames it on Apple.
and yes you are the owner of the phone and you have the right to buy whatever 3rd party equipment for your phone, but dont expect it to work 100%.
Doesnt make sense if you ask me sir.
It is really hard to determine the main cause of this matter. It could be your phone: hardware or software (i doubt it is this one), or the 3rd party dock.
You tell me which one to throw and buy a new one.
Already told you why I bought it. There's nothing but stupidity in that review as docks do not put out power, they transfer it, the power supply puts out power. As for the amperage, it puts out what you put in. it will do [email protected] if you are stupid enough to put that through it... Assuming the wires don't burn. if you are going to base your assumptions on a review, at least choose one from someone knowledgeable. also, my dock never took 11 hours to charge, not that i ever bothered timing it but it sure as hell wasnt more than 4 hours (and thats giving an a good bit of a safety margin), i'd guess 2 hours 0-100 if i had to.
What I'm telling you is that the phone is not accepting the charge, not that the dock is messed up but the phone. And I wanted to know if anyone had similar issues or suggestions.
I'm glad you have insight on the matter and an opinion, however you are not trying to answer the question. I've already informed you the dock is intact and making a connection. I've checked the voltage of the xperia official charger at the cable at its end: 4v dc, the dock when hooked to that charger is 4v dc tested at the pins. I can put a larger amount through it, and any number of amps. A pogo dock is a very simple device, official or otherwise, the difference is mainly in price and design. The diy thread is a perfect example of that.
@LitoNi
I took it apart, nothing is loose. thanks
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I'm glad you have insight on the matter and an opinion, however you are not trying to answer the question.
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It's been answered, you've not bought an official product, that's the problem! Buy cheap unofficial batteries, expect issues, buy cheap replica SD Cards, expect issues, buy cheap unofficial chargers, expect issues, and looks like you can cheap docs to that list too.
XperienceD, please continue answering me with your infinite wisdom you learned from the internet. obviously you know everything about electronics.
btw fixed it, reinstalled my nand backup. software problem ftl.
didnt know this was an apple forum.
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XperienceD, please continue answering me with your infinite wisdom you learned from the internet. obviously you know everything about electronics.
btw fixed it, reinstalled my nand backup. software problem ftl.
didnt know this was an apple forum.
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Have same dock and same issue sometimes it doesn't want to charge but I just simply put it out and in and it works after reinserting.
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XperienceD, please continue answering me with your infinite wisdom you learned from the internet. obviously you know everything about electronics.
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I'm sharing what some of us have learned here, cheap non official products give issues, accept it or don't.
From me to you.