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Please Assist - Questions..... (roms / g1)

ok - i have a G1 ... fully functional etc
anyway - i started looking into putting SenseUI on it - and then about 15mins ago came across the cyanogen thread and became very intrigured....
i have a couple questions
1. with the latest release of the ROM, is the phone fully functional?? - no restrictions etc? tmo doesnt mind or restrict you etc? - i still want all features working
2. is there a step by step on installing the rom? - i looked around a bit but found multiple conflicting instructions/recommendations -
3. WORST case scenario, can i always go right back to where im at now? - official tmo/google release, fully functional, normal g1? - or am i stuck
my biggest concern is ruining the phone - im just getting in to G1 editing etc - ive always been too nervous because its my main phone and only phone - but i used to do all kinds of crazy things with my old blackberry - beta releases from overseas etc etc - just havent gotten the balls to mess with my g1
but ill be honest, i hate the iphone (not sure why) - but im getting kind of fed up with the G1 - i love it, dont get me wrong - but the add-ons/functions i read in cyans rom intrigured me a lot
so with all this being said - please answer my questions listed above
i dont care so much about the files/apps - i can always re-download the apps i use etc... and the pics/vids i can back up to my pc
thanks in advance!!!!

the current stable release of cyanogen's rom in 4.0.1 and it is very stable and much faster than stock cupcake. the only thing missing as far as i can tell is the myfaves app. but i do not care bc i can update that online. everything in market works. plus many extras from donut.
are you rooted? if not, go to the market.
search for recovery flasher.
download it.
then go to cyanogen's thread and download 4.0.1.
put it on the root of your sdcard (upmost folder).
use the recovery flasher app to apply cyanogen's recovery image 1.4 on your phone.
power off your phone.
hold home and power to boot into recovery.
it should have a green android with text in front of it.
go to flash any .zip.
select the 4.0.1 file you put on your sdcard from above.
hit home to apply it.
after it finishes and tells you to reboot the phone then select reboot phone on the menu.
let the phone boot up.
may take 5 to 10 minutes.
then look into partitioning your sdcard for apps2sd and a linux-swap partition if you want those options.
yes you can easily revert the phone to stock rom like you never rooted it.
when you boot the phone up the first time, if you get a lot of force closes then boot into recovery.
go to the recovery console
hit enter
type fix_permissions
then type reboot
if that does not work then you will have to wipe the phone from the recovery menu and re-flash the rom
any other questions

trying it now - (crosses fingers)

its been on the NEW adroid splash screen ( the one with the android on a skateboard) for a while now... it stops highlighting once in a while and flashes off - then starts again... its been about 7-8mins i think..... is this normal?

got it!
thanks!!!

your welcome. did you have root or did you use the recovery flasher app? because if you used the recovery flasher app there is a quick question i have

i didnt have root at all prior to me trying this tonight

something i would try. power your phone down. hold the camera button and power button (this boots up into bootloader) if you get a rainbow screen then you will want to flash the hard spl(androids on skateboards with a white background). so you can you use fastboot. here is where you can get the hard spl. just boot into recovery and flash it. i do not know if flashing the hard spl will wipe your phone like flashing haykuro's spl will, but you would much rather have the hard spl than not having it so the pros far outweigh the cons. welcome to your newly rooted phone. if you have any questions feel free to pm me and i will do my best to answer them.

david1171 said:
something i would try. power your phone down. hold the camera button and power button (this boots up into bootloader) if you get a rainbow screen then you will want to flash the hard spl(androids on skateboards with a white background). so you can you use fastboot. here is where you can get the hard spl. just boot into recovery and flash it. i do not know if flashing the hard spl will wipe your phone like flashing haykuro's spl will, but you would much rather have the hard spl than not having it so the pros far outweigh the cons. welcome to your newly rooted phone. if you have any questions feel free to pm me and i will do my best to answer them.
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Thanks for the step by step guide David...
I would like to ask a question on ROM types. I am currently using JF's 1.51. I have no problem with this (occasional force closes, which I suspect is from the SetCPU app). I have hearing lots of updates from CyanogenMod's ROM. What are the main differences? From your experience, what do you think are the disadvantages of CyanogenMod's ROM versus JF's 1.51? Would appreciate any help you can give. Thanks

erlern said:
From your experience, what do you think are the disadvantages of CyanogenMod's ROM versus JF's 1.51? Would appreciate any help you can give. Thanks
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sorry i almost cried when i saw disadvantages lol.
1 you do not have to overclock bc the phone is set up to overclock when it needs it and to underclock when it doesn't need it.
2 apps2sd is automatic if you have a second partition. there's a great guide for easily partition your phone with cyanogen's 1.31+ recovery image.
3 many cool things from donut.
4 a lot of themes are made for cm roms
5 a lot of stuff too much for me to list
if you really want to try it just get his latest recovery image. download 4.0.1 or whatever the latest stable release is. make a nandroid back up. flash the rom, and if you don't like it, or want to go back to JF then you can easily

David, Thanks for this. Just for kicks. If i want to reset to the factory defaults all I need to select is the "wipe data/factory reset" from recovery?

I think my post just disappeared...anyway... David, Just for kicks, If I need the phone back to original settings, I need to select the "wipe data/factory default" option in recovery? This will keep the new recovery method, just deletes the rom?

You will keep the recovery image. Yes it will just clear you data and stuff off the phone. Things like recovery image, SPL, and radio do not get wiped. If you do wipe just reflash a rom and you will be good to go.
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david1171 said:
sorry i almost cried when i saw disadvantages lol.
1 you do not have to overclock bc the phone is set up to overclock when it needs it and to underclock when it doesn't need it.
2 apps2sd is automatic if you have a second partition. there's a great guide for easily partition your phone with cyanogen's 1.31+ recovery image.
3 many cool things from donut.
4 a lot of themes are made for cm roms
5 a lot of stuff too much for me to list
if you really want to try it just get his latest recovery image. download 4.0.1 or whatever the latest stable release is. make a nandroid back up. flash the rom, and if you don't like it, or want to go back to JF then you can easily
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I like your SPL on your signiture. Im guessing its the danger SPL

Yeah it references the danger spl lol. I think thats the feeling that anyone gets when flashing it. I know i was like i really hope this works or i'm going to be sad.

Original question(s) seem to be solved.
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So... Would this work? [G1]

Hello everyone.
I have done a lot of reading and searching regarding rooting a G1. There are so many guides and resources out there I was wondering if you guys could point me to the best (safest?) way to do it.
I have been thinking of rooting it for months due to the benefits I can get once I have done it but the thought of bricking it has been stopping me from doing it. I want to get it over with now and would appreciate if you guys can point me to the best guide and the best rom (I know there is many, I would like speed, stability and some nice features would be cool). I have a G1, I live in the UK and it is supplied by T-Mobile. I keep it up to date with the OTA updates so I think I will have to downgrade which I believe is shown in most guides? If there is any info you guys need, please say.
I would be really thankful if I got some help, it's not something I want to do without proper knowledge (which all of you have). Is it easy enough to do if I follow the instructions and make sure my battery is charged enough?
Also, can we in the UK flash the radio, is that meant to be tampered with, what are the pros and cons of doing that?
Thank you so much.
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Please look at post #6, I made a list of what I think I need to do.

I would suggest finding the 1-click root to make it easy for you. Then, flash the 1.6 HTC image like all builds based off of Cyanogen's build environment require now and then flash @wesgarner's build for the fastest most stable build available.

Here's how to root your phone... nice and simple....
The one click root doesn't work if you've upgraded your phone to the OTA 1.6 update.
So the old instructions would be a safe bet since i don't know if you have 1.5 or 1.6.
Follow these instructions: http://www.myhangoutonline.com/2009/11/20/how-to-root-your-g1/
Then upgrade your radio and SPL from here: http://www.myhangoutonline.com/2009/11/22/upgrade-radio-recovery-spl/
Then if you want to upgrade to the newest CM build do this:
Before you install the Cyanogenmod 4.2.7.1 ROM you need to install the HTC 1.6 Dev Rom first.
HTC took it off their website, i have it uploaded on my site...
do this: ( This is for HTC Dream (G1) )
CLEAR YOUR EXT PARTITION or REPARTITION YOUR CARD to get rid of any Incompatible files.
Download CM 4.2.7.1 -> http://www.myhangoutonline.com/downloads/?did=17
Download HTC Dream Image 1.6 -> http://www.myhangoutonline.com/downloads/?did=6
Place them both on the root of your SDCard.
Reboot your phone into recovery mode...
1. WIPE
2. Install HTC Dream Image
3. Hit Reboot when it's done (and keep an eye on the phone!)
4. you will see the little picture with an arrow (radio installation), WHEN YOU SEE THE PHONE REBOOT HOLD THE HOME KEY. It should reboot right back into recovery.
5. Now install the CM ROM
6. Reboot and you're done...
Hope that helps!

http://androidoverdrive.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7

Thank you all for the information and links.
I have been doing a lot more reading today and think I might go with Dwang's rom. From what I understand (to do it the quick way) I need to revert my G1 back to Cupcake (RC7 for europe?) from Donut 1.6. Then Download the recovery flasher and flash a recovery image, do I use Amon Ra's? Do I then load the rom, then the theme afterwards? I hear people mentioning the radio, is it a necessity for the G1 that I mess with the radio? Is it easy to brick the phone doing it this way?
Thanks again for the help and understanding .

After watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCG9XhFmoEw
Could you guys tell me if this would work?
1. Format my SDCard. Transfer the old android (RC7?) image, Amon Ra's recovery image, Dwerg's rom and a nice theme made for the rom to the SD card.
2. Can I use the telnet thing to flash the Aman Ra recovery image?
3. Power off.
4. Power on holding the camera button and the power button and then downgrade my version. Reboot.
5. Turn on and set up my google info. Press enter twice and type "telnetd" and press enter. Proceed to the market and download the telnet app.
6. Run the app, and type in what's needed to flash the new recovery image. Again, can I use Aman Ra's? I'm unsure what to type but I will try and figure it out.
7. Power off.
8. Power on holding the Home and power keys, which should bring me to the new recovery image.
9. If I am flashing Dwerg's do I need to flash 1.6 first like you need to do for CM? Or is that a CM only thing? Flash the rom.
That should be it? Would doing it that way work ok? Less chance of bricking? There was no mention of radio flashing or anything.
Hopefully you guys can help me out.

Andriod Newbie, how to load a ROM?

I'm as green as it gets when it comes to Andriod and all of these custom roms for it and the phones. I am extremely technical, senior dev for 10 years. I know a bit of *nix as well, so command shells aren't new to me and the concept of mounting. I've loaded lots of ROMs (and donated!) on my Windows Mobile device (Touch Pro), so that I have licked fine. Just, now I have an andriod device...
But for the like of me, I am having a hard time finding simple basic instructions on how to load a ROM. All I see are things like "boot to RA". Yes, I've searched and searched with VBulletin's limited forum search (used google to crawl the site too, nada).
What does "RA" mean, and how to do I get to it? LOL See my delima! Does it mean "Root Access", and does that mean I have to root my phone (I am assuming that?). Just don't want to brick my brand new phone!
I just picked up a Sprint Hero and want to load Fresh ROM on it. I have not even activated it!
OS is: 2.27.651.5 I assume this is the "2.1" that people are talking about?
So, if this is the 2.1... Does that mean I cannot root it? And therefore, I cannot load any custom ROM on it?
For example, here are the instructions to load Fresh ROM (and my questions):
•Download and copy the zip to the root of your sdcard
Ok, no problem. The zip is on my flash card. But, do I need to expand it?
•Reboot to RA and do a data wipe / factory reset (REQUIRED)
Again, Reboot to... "RA" what? Root Access?
Also, in the rooting instructions, I don't see anything about "data wipe / factory reset" from whatever this "RA" is.
•You may also need to wipe sd:ext if you are having troubles booting.
How do I do that?
•If you are running Fresh Toast and ext4 then you’ll need to partition back to ext3 if you want to use apps2sd
Say what? How do partition, ext3? ext4? What are those? apps2sd?
Yeah, very new...
The rest of the instructions seem easy enough.
Thanks in advance guys!

You need to root your phone first.
After that the RA everyone is talking about is rebooting into recovery. If you have the android sdk loaded you can send a command like adb reboot recovery or you could also turn on the phone while holding the home button. Then you can do all the wiping and loading of ROMS(just make sure they are for a CDMA hero)
You will need to go into settings -> About phone -> Software Information and look at your firmware version. If it is 2.1 then you can't do anything until an exploit is found. If you are 1.5 then you can root your phone. The easiest way is with fresh kitchen. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655225

Thank you centran! Fresh Kitchen looks super clean. I'll give that a shot (when I can...).
Humm. The phone came with 2.1-update1 as the firmware.
So I guess that means I am SOL?

yep. sorry

Is there a way to use the normal HTC Utility and flash the ROM to an older version? Sprint has pulled the older versions of the ROM from the site. But, I am sure there's one floating around here somewhere.
Thanks again!

Nope, HBOOT fails to flash, and even though we maanged to bypass HBOOT, main version check still fails.

Looking forward to the hack when it's accomplished! Thanks!

Hahahaha... And as soon as I give up hope, handed it to the wife and said, "Sorry, we can't hack it at this time", I see on xda's homepage that the Hero 2.1-update1 has been rooted!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
Now, does this mean I can snag any of the custom ROMs here and slap it on it? Or, do I need to/should wait for an RUU-hacked version?

Yep, just Root it and then flash away. No need to wait for anything.

Thanks again for the reply!

[Q] rooting nexus one

hey guys i just got my nexus one 2.3.3
im confused what 2 do first
root, unlock bootloader
what 2 do first?
and i preffer to do all these things WITHOUT adb, bcoz adb never works with me

You can't unlock bootloader without ADB (or actually without fastboot, but if you can't get ADB to work, then you probably won't be able to get fastboot to work - since they work the same way).
My suggestion is - do nothing. At least until you'll be able to follow one of the guides and get ADB and fastboot to work. Then you can decide yourself, whether you want the bootloader unlocked or not, and how will rooting benefit you.

what are the benefits of unlocked bootloader?
i just wanted it to get it rooted and flash CM7 on it

It has been discussed a lot, please search to get A LOT of answers.
In a very short version, the benefits are:
Safe radio updates (using fastboot)
Ability to flash whatever you want whenever you want - which is, permanent ability to have root access, regardless of the currently used OS.

but is it possible to flash CM7 rom without unlocking bootloader?
whenever i boot my nexus one, there is this little lock icon on the bottem that is "unlocked"
is my bootloader unlocked?

shiyou said:
but is it possible to flash CM7 rom without unlocking bootloader?
whenever i boot my nexus one, there is this little lock icon on the bottem that is "unlocked"
is my bootloader unlocked?
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If there's lock icon at the bottom of boot splash screen, it means the bootloader is already unlocked. Is it used one?

yes its used, i guess that guy alrdy unlocked it for me
another problem
i have serius wifi issue, its different from the other wifi problem
if i connect to my wifi its authenticating, then disabled
i dont even go to sleep its just says disabled after authenticating, i tried reconecctint but same things happens again...
i installed wifi fixer but that doesnt work either
also, my 3g drops after 4 sec and i cant get it to work afterwards

Flash a new ROM, wipe your data, and try.
Repeat.
If the problems will still persist - they're in HW and you can't do anything about them.

i tried factory reset but didnt work...

This is exactly the reason why I suggest not touching your phone.
You either don't understand what exactly I'm guiding you to do, or don't understand the difference between various maintenance/repair operations. Flashing a new ROM and wiping user data from custom recovery ISN'T the same as doing "factory reset" from within already-installed ROM. Flashing 2 ROMs with different base (for example, lightly modified stock and CM7, or CM7 and MIUI, etc) introduces enough difference on the SW size to (almost) make sure that any problem which persists in both new ROMs, is coming from HW.
In any case, I suggest either waiting for someone with much more patience than myself (which isn't hard - patience isn't one of my strengths) to explain you some basics that you're not willing to learn yourself by reading, reading and some more reading, or to give your phone to someone who knows what he's doing.

dude....
i rooted and flashed many roms b4, this isnt my first android phone
i just got confused data wipe with factory reset....

Ok well now I need to know if you have a custom recovery, if so then just 5X wipe plus 3X system wipe and flash a new ROM, if not then do you have root access if not I'll walk you through the process.

shiyou
You are in good hands with Dude
Couple points:
Don't use Clockwork Mod 3.+ as recovery--which seems to be your next step--get a lower version
I prefer Amon_Ra 2.2.1 for my recovery
BACKUP phone (NANDROID) as soon as you get the recovery
Look thru Cyanogen thread from OP page and last few dozen pages
Cyanogen flashes a little differnet with having to flash gapps separate and flashing Dark Tremor's a2sd after each Nightly flash

i know how 2 root,flash,wipe, nandroid and all
i did it many times b4
i think i wont use nightly builds, but a stable? or RC?
which should i take?

How about cm7.1 RC1 that is the latest version of cyanogen mod.

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shiyou
You are in good hands with Dude
Couple points:
Don't use Clockwork Mod 3.+ as recovery--which seems to be your next step--get a lower version
I prefer Amon_Ra 2.2.1 for my recovery
BACKUP phone (NANDROID) as soon as you get the recovery
Look thru Cyanogen thread from OP page and last few dozen pages
Cyanogen flashes a little differnet with having to flash gapps separate and flashing Dark Tremor's a2sd after each Nightly flash
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why not clockwork recovery 3? the cyanogenmod rc1 states that i need that?

should i use gingerbeak? im on 2.2.3 and install the recovery afterwards?

ok i rooted it with gingerbreak and flashed clockworkmod recovery on it
after that i went into recovery and couldnt find nandroid backup so i rebooted again
i tried to make a backup via rom manager and it ended up with a "!" icon
i tried to go into recovery again and again i got the "!" icon

I don't know anything about Gingerbreak
But, on CWMod 3.+, it has been unstable for a lot of people--I don't recommend it
If you have Rom Manager--flash something like 2.5.1.4??
Still recommend Amon_Ra
I am not sure, but if you get the exclamation, you may not be rooted
If you are experienced at flashing, I would as another poster suggested--get to know your phone and study hard info from the Rom threads you want to try before trying.
What color was recovery--did it say ClockWork
I don't think you will see the name Nandroid in Clockwork--just Clockwork backups

A couple more suggestions, if you want
Back up sd card regularly--you will lose it on occasion--if you need to reformat it, use sdformatter outside of phone
Partition sdcard with zero swap
Wipe all (data/caches) multiple times before flashing new rom, including System

[Q] first android

im making the big move from android i was will the cydia community from the begining and i want to move on to bigger and better things now this is true android noob coming out of me what is the best noob thread to root my phone sgh-I897 with 2.1 update 1
i dont even know where to start and after waiting 2 weeks to make this post hoping that i could find what i need has come down to asking for help

Read all the noob threads that are stickied. This little tool is great AIO Toolbox

i have read everyone but there is still this part of me that asks why is everyone different m scared to do this and then find out o wait i should have used that post how can i positive what thread will work for me and if it is the AIO toolbox how do i can that's what im getting at
Is there anyway be positive that aio will work

There isn't 1 sure way. Most of the times there are many right ways to do it. If your phone is on 2.1 then its will take well to JF6 and might have the 3button glitch. AIO will get you root access to your phone. If you are going to flash a rom then you can just ODIN a kernel with Clockwork recovery and just flash the rom there, no real need to root it.

ok i think thats what im stuck on why should i not root and do a custom rom a lot of ppl keep saying that to me plus if i root them i can change roms on the fly with the right apps right? so if someone could fill in my blank here

jesterofdeath666 said:
ok i think thats what im stuck on why should i not root and do a custom rom a lot of ppl keep saying that to me plus if i root them i can change roms on the fly with the right apps right? so if someone could fill in my blank here
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I'm not sure who is telling you that you shouldn't root your phone or install custom roms. The only (minor) reason to not do it is that it technically voids your warranty, but as long as you flash back to a stock rom before sending it to AT&T, you'll be fine.
If you are rooted and have ClockworkMod Recovery, you will be able to flash other roms that you've downloaded at any time.

jesterofdeath666 said:
ok i think thats what im stuck on why should i not root and do a custom rom a lot of ppl keep saying that to me plus if i root them i can change roms on the fly with the right apps right? so if someone could fill in my blank here
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he wasnt saying not to do it at all. what he meant was there is no reason to root before you flash a rom. the rom itself will be rooted after the flash.
the apps you are thinking of is rom manager, it is useful on other devices but on the captivate not so much. all is does is download an update.zip to your phone with cwm on it and boots you into it. whch you would need root to use the app.
BUT you can do it manually quite easily without the need to root. I've attached the update.zip that rom manager would download. put this and a froyo rom (gingerbread roms require an extra step) on root directory of your sdcard then boot into recovery by holding all three buttons and releasing when the screen comes on. you will see a blue menu, scroll down with the volume buttons to "reinstall packages" and select ut with the power button then do that last part again and this time it will boot into cwm. choose install zip from sdcard, then choose zip, find the rom and flash it.

I didn't mean to confuse. Just ment that If he was thinking of loading a costume rom he doesn't even need to root and he can skip it by flashing with ODIN a kernel with CWM. My apologies.

see whats the point of a custom room over a theme anyway however i would love to know what you all think is the best rom for this phone
and the wain reason i want to root is to have more control over the phones settings
and what is the point of cmod7 never really understood that even with the research

Custom rom has been tweaked. Theme is just how it looks. Most roms have themes as well, others keep a "stock" look. There is no "best" rom since its a matter of opinion. If by Cmod7 you mean Cyanogenmod its a AOSP rom (Android Open Source Project).

so Cyanogenmod is a rom so all the other layouts and themes that i see for this are just themes not different roms?

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BUT you can do it manually quite easily without the need to root. I've attached the update.zip that rom manager would download. put this and a froyo rom (gingerbread roms require an extra step) on root directory of your sdcard then boot into recovery by holding all three buttons and releasing when the screen comes on. you will see a blue menu, scroll down with the volume buttons to "reinstall packages" and select ut with the power button then do that last part again and this time it will boot into cwm. choose install zip from sdcard, then choose zip, find the rom and flash it.
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so would the rom file need to just be dropped in the root and not touched or does it have to be renamed?
and can i update to gingerbread with out root or a new rom if so whats the other step?