Seems all the images here have loads of tweaks done to them, silly boot animations etc, and it almost always means some of these tweaks will be broken in lots of ways, or include just as much crap as the stuff HTC include.
Just come from Hero, where there is a stock image that ONLY have the root and SU app included, no other stuff. Is there such a beast for Legend?
Otherwise, I'll just stay on 2.03.405.3 and wait for Froyo.
Have you tried Almost Stock Legend?
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698421
Works smooth, only thing added is busybox and superuser program. But I had to jump from it since the VPN connectivity was broken. Apart from that, no problems.
YOu have a rooting guide on the page below. When you root legend you have to flash it, ande on this page you will see how you do it from the beginign and the rom you will use it for flashing it, you'll get there, and it is completly stock, only superuser app is added.
Thanks, that looks like precisely what I want!!!
Off to downgrade, install recovery and then flash this puppy. What's the deal with radio firmware on Legend?
Will the RUU downgrade also downgrade the radio? (I assume it will), will this update.zip update it? (I am assuming not), how do I get the latest GSM radio?
Thanks.
EDIT: Just found out there is a radio.img in there, so I assume it will update it...
It is easy to create your own rooted rom based on stock rom, check link below: hxxp://theunlockr.com/2010/03/26/how-to-create-your-own-custom-rom-for-android-part-1-setting-up-the-kitchen/
Thanks, all rooted and upto date.
The only small annoyance with than rom, is it uses the rubbish SU app, the one that does not work correctly if USB debugging is enabled, rather than the good "ninja" one.
Is it just a case of using adb to remove it and replace it with the good one?
Hmm, tried installing AdFree from the marketplace, something that's never caused me any problems on my Hero, and it caused the Legend to reboot...
Anyone else seen this? These sorta problems are why I am cautious of taking ROMS that have had too much customization...
Hello everyone.
I am new to the world of flashing android, I used to flash my previous htc windows phones all the time. I'm currently running IceRom, something one of my friends found off here a long while back.
Can anyone recommend a good stable rom that looks nice ? I have been looking over all the newer ones but I think I want something more established.
What tickles your fancy?
Vanilla Android or Sense Based?
Built in Overclock Kernels or Flashing one of the undervolted/OC goodies that are in plentiful abundance?
That will help start to narrow it down
uhhhh..... well i never know what I'm using so it doesnt really matter. The icerom im using now has a lot of glitches its android 2.2 (think?) the video camera doesnt work on it and i cant play music from myxer (it doesnt support .dm filetype) so it really drives me nuts...
honestly i dont know the difference between vanilla and sense, so anything goes.
Cyanogenmod 6:HERE
icerom is 2.1 aosp ithink you wont go wrong wit cm6
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Cyanogenmod 6:HERE
icerom is 2.1 aosp ithink you wont go wrong wit cm6
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I agree... CM6 is the best, and darch has his rc1 out now, so its extremely stable
Sent from my HTC Hero running froyo: take that, Sprint!
If you want to try a good stock rom that comes with apps 2sd go with nfinitefx45's stock .6 odex rom its awesome and gives you the beautiful htc sense!
ok C-6 it is... so another n00b question (Sorry guys, the hero is the first android phone ive had!)
on the c-6 posting it says to update radio if you need to. I dont even know what version I am running let alone how to flash a radio. My last friend who knew how to flash them told me not to flash my radio cuz its a good way to brick my phone.
And seeing as how this would be my first time flashing ANDROID im not sure i should flash a radio without supervision lol
Be careful if you start flashing your radio. If you flash one from a gms hero you can brick your phone.
If you go to "settings>about phone>software info>baseband version" that should be your radio I believe.
ok then im using
baseband version:
1.04.01.09.21
sound right?
i downloaded the C6 rom- but does anyone know a good android syncing software i can use to transfer the rom to my phone? again im not trying to annoy anyone. Once Ive learned the process once I will be able to do it again and again. With windows it was easy there was a program that did everything for you beside the hard reset.
btw is a wipe and a hard reset the same thing or no
Yeah sounds right. Here's where I got my updated radio from - http://geekfor.me/category/hero/radios/
ok awesome looks good. Is it required to flash a radio or no? like will it affect the rom's awesomeness
those radios are all for android 2.1 but it says c6 is android 2.2
Lol, I don't think its required to flash a new radio. I think you find a radio that gives you good signal strength and then you stick with it. I could be completely talking outta my ass though...
alright guys who've helped- thankyou!!
i figured out how to sync my phone using sugarsync so i can update my radio and rom. now im just going to follow flashing directions from c6 thread,
will post back with an update when its done...
ok this is rediculous.... this is the most time consuming thing ive ever tried to do with my phone. I couldnt transfer the c6 zip from sugarsync to my phone so i had to email it to myself...and took forever for my phone to download it. NOW the file is stuck in my download folder and for some reason i cannot move it or copy/paste it to the root folder.
btw, my root folder is NOT in the sd folder.
anyone know how im supposed to get the new rom into my root!????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
download the ROM
copy the .zip file over to your phones SD card in the root directory
Unplug your phone and turn it off
Hold power and home until you boot into Recovery
Select the option to flash zip
find your ROM and press the trackball and when its done reboot
that should work lol.
omgomg!!! i figured it out lol i noticed my old rom zip was in the sd directory so i "copied" c6 to that same spot and was able to boot from that. Restarted my phone, and its currently booting up with cyanogen 6!!
I have successfully flashed my first android phone....
now that thats done...anyone know where i can find the MARKET on cyanogen??
in his thread theres a link for something called "google sh*ts" or something.
Its all the google apps, like gmail and youtube and stuff
you have to download that and flash it and then restart the phone and theyll all show up.
Thats the rom i was using n_n
Hello,
For the past few days i have been trying to find an answer to my question but so i've come up short. With regards to loading a custom rom, what is the process of ensuring that the correct radio image gets loaded as well? I have went as far as modifying my stock rom with dsixda's kitchen (great by the way, very easy to use), but I have not figured out what to do with the radio.img. I incorrectly assumed that it would be retained in the build, and now I'm a bit worried to try it until i know for sure where it needs to go.
Thanks for all your help,
Flashing a new ROM doesn't affect the radio at all. You could change your ROM 6 times per day and still have the same radio.
I'd say your best bet is to search around the forum and find one of the flashable .zips for whatever radio you want. They are out there cuz I remember doing that a while back. As long as you flash one meant for CDMA (DO NOT FLASH A GSM RADIO!!!) you should be fine.
Here's the one that a lot of us are using right now, the newest Radio that came in Sprint's 2.1 Stock release: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681703
Ok well that makes sense. I would use that radio, but I don't have a sprint device, so unless I am completely lost I should just stick with what I as my radio image. I have just gotten a bit confused with all the talk about using sprint rom's in non-sprint phones and losing the ability to make/receive calls,data, ect.
Just so I am clear, as long as I am clear, since I modified my stock rom to add root, wifi tethering, blah blah; the radio will be fine. So essentially, loading my rom would have no more effect on the carrier files than a master reset would. Am I over simplifying it?
Thanks, you are the first person is 5 different forums that explained this to me.
Ok yes, you shouldn't flash a Sprint radio if you're not on the Sprint carrier. Your provider may not recognize it and your phone might not even get signal.
And yes you're also correct that adding root, wi-fi tether, and other such apps/mods will not have any effect on your radio at all. The radio is basically just what the phone uses to receive its signal from the tower. It's like you said...if you're not having any signal/data problems, you really don't need to worry about updating your radio.
Finally, you're also correct in that you shouldn't flash a Sprint-based ROM to your phone if you're not on Sprint. The frameworks and operating files are built somewhat differently in other providers ROMs, so a Sprint-based ROM on your non-Sprint phone likely wouldn't even work.
There are other ROMs for a few other carriers out there in the Development forum. Browse around there to see if one of those will work for you.
Sounds like you understand it all just fine
Thanks, I went ahead and took the plunge and loaded my own rom and it worked flawlessly, well with the exception of my custom boot screen image and the boot sound. I guess I need to just take baby steps I guess. Does anybody know where I can get some get directions on creating custom bootup features? I read somewhere all I needed to do was open the media folder and edit the images as I see fit. It seemed easy enough, but on startup, the screens froze and I got no sound. It did load all the way but I would like to correct this if possible.
Thanks again
A somewhat basic boot animation tutorial (that doesn't seem really good in my opinion, but a good start at least): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639471
Some boot animation instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6651435&postcount=2
Boot animation preview tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676385
There's lots more stuff out there if you search the forum for "boot animation". Looks like some ppl just modify existing boot images to their liking rather than completely building from scratch.
Thanks, I will give them a try. I am still a little afraid to try some of the tried and true custom roms out there for fear of incompatability with my radio, so I am gonna work with what I got and continue to work on my own. Thanks again for all your help
chromiumleaf is totaly right, if your not real familiar with flashing radio's stick with the one your carrier provided a wrong radio flash can brick your phone quick.
for the boot animations when cooking them into your roms, copying and pasting your new bootanimation into the /system/media folder in your working directory, and leaving the option in the kitchen unchecked will give your better results, also here's some more info that might be helpful in building them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7574576&postcount=12
Just make sure u delete the bootanimation.zip file in the media folder before u add ur boot animation cause the zip will always over rule ur animation.
Is there a working EPST for the Vogue running 2.2? Or rather, a way to program the device without having to flash back to WM?
Thanks in advance!
I am not familiar with that tool, but it sounds like something you won't need for these phones. If you install a kernel to NAND, you can install another by copying the NBH file to sd card, then using the bootloader to install. I won't go into details because there are sticky threads that spell everything out.
If I have missed the mark and you are asking for something other than how to install new kernels or roms, then please clarify the question by explaining what EPST.apk does that seems to be missing.
It basically allows service commands, and the programming of a device. (##MSL#, ##DATA# etc.) I was wondering if anyone had this working, as the usual solution to activate a Vogue would be to flash back to WM, program, and then back to Android, that is if you install to NAND.
Sorry if I was unclear in my post.
EDIT: What I'm mainly asking is, if there's a way to activate a Vogue with Android 2.2 installed on NAND, via EPST or another method. (App, CDMA Workshop, etc.) Probably asking a stupid question.
Ah I understand now. That sounds like something that is definitely needed. Maybe someone else knows?
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Larbo, I am also on Sprint and recently took advantage of the
Free Optimus S phones as long as I renew my plan - which I was going to do anyway!
When I activated the new Optimus S - I was able to activate over the Sprint Website.
I didn't have to do any phone codes or anything, that stuff happens in the background.
I don't think the Droid stuff needs to use those codes and stuff anymore.
Best bet, I would recommend you get your Vogue working like you want.
Save the androidinstall.tar file you used.
Do a full /data backup img file
Flash one of the NFSFan's Sprint winmo's - do whatever programming, then
flash back to android kernel .NBH and then reload the androidinstall.tar
and re-load your data backup image - its a little more work, but only option currently.
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Flash one of the NFSFan's Sprint winmo's - do whatever programming, then
flash back to android kernel .NBH and then reload the androidinstall.tar
and re-load your data backup image - its a little more work, but only option currently.
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I did a little more searching and that seems to be the only option. It surprises me somewhat, as dang near everything Android runs on this little phone, everything working (Minus hardware limitations), to the point where it seems Android natively.
The Optimus S really reminds me of the Vogue in design, maybe I'll have to pick one up.
you can backup all the phone (system and data using atools)
CDMA Workshop allows you to do all that from the flash screen (Power + Camera)
QPST may also
dzo wrote a partial service programming app a long time ago. It sounds like it wouldn't be hard for the more talented devs to finish up, but since everyone with a vogue has winmo to start with and can provision there, there hasn't been much need for it.
Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
This is still the best way to get a custom ROM loaded up onto your phone. What you want to start with is flashing the vulnerable recovery from http://android.doshaska.net/rootable by using RSD Lite. To do so, you need to put the phone into Bootloader mode (power+Dpad-up) You can google RSD Lite, make sure you use the latest version along with the latest USB Driver version from Motorola.
RSD Lite is a very finicky program, if you have any errors flashing, your best bet would be to try this post: http://androidforums.com/droid-all-...hing-process-0x7100-rsd-lite.html#post1274587
Once you flash the VR (vulnerable recovery), you will want to put OpenRecovery on your SD Card. I recommend using OR 1.46 and placing FuFu's minimod on the SD Card as well. It will overwrite existing files in OR (look for it in Milestone Development). From here you can root the phone in OR (by using power+x, then camera+volume up) and reboot, backup all data you want saved, before flashing a ROM.
Once that is done, get the custom ROM that you want (I find speed + battery can be Cronos, CM7 or FroyoMOD for a Froyo ROM) and place it in OpenRecovery/updates. You will also want the most up-to-date version of Google Apps for Cronos or any Gingerbread ROM (except MIUI).
Gapps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip
Now, turn the phone off, and put it into recovery mode (power+x, then camera+volume up), select apply update.zip and you are now into OpenRecovery.
Here is where you will flash your custom ROM and Gapps. Wipe both cache partition and dalvik cache, then wipe all data. Select Apply Update under Miscellaneous Menu and select the ROM you want. Once it is done, wipe both caches (not data) and flash Gapps. Wipe caches again. Finally, change the baseband to your country and reboot.
The first reboot will take a while, as the ROM is configuring itself for first time use.
That is how to flash a custom ROM and get started.
2- Custom kernels are not available for Milestone, as our bootloader is locked. Overclocking the phone is done through the 10overclock file in system/etc/init.d . All ROMs that I know of are overclock, most to 1GHz (from 550MHz). You will not be able to flash any kernels, and DO NOT try ROM Manager, it will temporarily brick your phone.
Crucial apps, I would say are Root Explorer, TitaniumBackup. Those are the two that are very useful for root users, if you flash multiple ROMs or need to access system files.
Hope this helped.
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
chaoscreater said:
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
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I have tried Milestone Overclock, but I never really used it to overclock the phone. I prefer changing the voltages and speeds with the 10overclock file. If you read the description of Milestone overclock, it "tricks" the kernel into thinking it's supposed to run at a certain speed.
ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery Mod do not work on Milestone. The only recovery that works with the Milestone is OpenRecovery or Androidiani OpenRecovery. Unfortunately, the only way to flash the ROMs is through OR or AOR, so you will have to repeat the processes every single time. I have gotten used to where all of the options are for FuFu's Minimod, so I am able to do it quite efficiently
The best way to backup a ROM, system data and the such is by Nandroid backup. That is the only sort of backup that you can do. It is recommended to do one every time you flash a custom ROM, but I only did it after I rooted and before I flashed my first custom ROM. You can do it through OR. That is the only way that will work. CWM and ROM Manager will just temp brick the phone and you will have to reflash a stock SBF all over again.
i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
chaoscreater said:
i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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I follow AndroidPolice as well. I don't know about Boot Manager, I heard about it, but I haven't heard any reviews of it yet.
Two things when it comes to phone storage and apps on the Milestone: Old hardware makes for a lot of games to not work at all, and low phone storage space.
Almost every ROM comes with apps2ext support, which is a more advanced version of Apps2SD. You can follow this tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10994672&postcount=226
Apps2ext will trick your phone into thinking space on the SD Card (the ext partition) is actually part of the phone's internal memory. You will be able to get a lot more apps on the phone this way.
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
chaoscreater said:
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Of course you still can. The best tweak for Milestone is under Android Hacking, it's zeppelinrox's supercharger script, which you run through Script Manager. That's the best you can get.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App
I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
chaoscreater said:
I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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Some do, such as HO!NO!, but not all of them do.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App
Ok so I finally got my Milestone today!
I'm about to start rooting it and install CM7 on it. But before I do that, I have one important question. I know for Windows Mobile, almost all of the device requires you to do a hard reset after flashing a custom rom. I was wondering if the same needs to be applied to Android custom roms? Because it doesn't seem like it, I did a quick Google search and found this:
http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-...4-do-not-factory-reset-your-rooted-phone.html
So ya I'm not sure....
UPDATE:
Ok so I got my Milestone rooted, and installed CM7 on it. I came across a weird problem while doing it though. First of all, I'm using a 8GB Kingston microSD class 2, and it's brand new and hasn't been used before, so it obviously has nothing stored on it as it's empty to begin with. Ok, so as I followed the instructions, the first step is obviously rooting the Milestone, so I simply copied OpenRecovery to the memory card while my Milestone was connected to my PC. The weird thing is, when I opened "My Computer", I didn't see my memory card. Instead, I see "Milestone", so I opened it and then I see my memory card "Removeable Storage". I opened it again and here's the actual weird part, there're 2 files stored in it, called:
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At first, I didn't think it was a problem because I thought they were just some dummy file or something. Also, the memory card is empty other than those 2 files. So after copying OpenRecovery to it and rooting it successfully, I then proceed to copy the CM7 custom rom file to the memory card. But this time, I still see the same thing. I don't see my OpenRecovery folder on it at all, there're no other files other than those 2 files on it. I tried Unmount and Mount in the SD Card settings, also unplugging my USB cable and re-plugging back in but it's the same. In fact, after 'Unmounting' the memory card, I couldn't even access it on "My Computer", as nothing shows up after I open "Milestone". Only 'Mounting' works, but again I only see those 2 files and nothing else.
HOWEVER, I then tried to take out the memory card and use my own microSD card reader, and bam I can see all the files on it, such as OpenRecovery and even the nanDroid backup that I made while following the instructions on that guide. So this is weird, why can't I access or see the contents on my memory card while the phone is connected to the PC??
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
chaoscreater said:
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
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The best way to revert to stock will be to flash an sbf for your region that will wipe everything. They have those sbf's on and-developers.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App
Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
chaoscreater said:
Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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1. when you're phone will not start anymore, it's good to have one before every new flash cause you never now what's gonna happen.
2. funny thing is i know where New Zealand is (not near Europe) . about the baseband ... yes every sbf has the region specific baseband 's (you cant flash a radio only change baseband 's).
baseband can be found on dexter's (http://dext3r.komodin.org/) page but they are already included in OR (not sure about fufu's). i can't be very precise because i don't remember.
custom rom's don't think they change baseband 's, (the .zip ones)
Ya ur right, NZ is not anywhere near Europe lol
but I did do some research on which SBF I needed before I flashed it, and I found out that the Europe SBF works for NZ as well, it was mentioned somewhere I can't remember.
About the baseband, I'm still a little bit confused. First off, I already know that you can change the baseband under OpenRecovery. The thing is, there are no options to change the baseband to New Zealand, so which one should I pick? Also, here's the part I'm confused about. You said that the baseband are region specific, and yet we can choose the baseband we want in OpenRecovery.
So since I flashed the SBF for Europe, what will happen if I then change the baseband to say Argentina (one of the options under OpenRecovery)? Will it crash or something?? I don't even know what baseband i'm using right now, I haven't changed anything, I only flashed the SBF for Europe and that's it. I can still go online using 2G/3G and txt no problem, but I'm just not sure if the baseband i'm using is suppose to be correct for New Zealand or not...
BTW just another side question (sorry I'm really new to the Android scene!):
I've found a few custom roms that doesn't use the current kernel we have for Milestone. As far as I know, the bootloader for Milestone is locked, therefore we can't properly flash a custom rom onto it, as well as replacing the kernel as well. So what I'm confused with is, if some of these custom roms don't use the current kernel on the system, then how does it work? Does it use its own kernel, and if so then shouldn't that replace the system's own kernel before it can be used??
Here's one of the custom rom topic where I read from, in case ur wondering:
This is the Froyo FRG22 image for our Milestone. but as this is not using the kernel, there are some limit to functions based on kernel requirement. But its close, and works great and is alot faster.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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About the baseband
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changing baseband's that are not supported by your network op will lead to no signal whatsoever.. i don't remember if there is a problem with only data. try other baseband, in theory it will not crash anything, so do a nandroid backup before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
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that is an old post from "25th July 2010, 05:52 AM" moto started to leak kernel from January 2011 give or take a month, so back then froyo was used with the eclair kernel. kernel from milestone was never changed to other than moto signed, only modules loaded at an early stage, thanks to kabaldan/nadlabak and other if exists
custom roms =
moto kernel
kernel modules (this helps on overclock , app2ext ... others)
mods to system files, apps
hope you understand cause i don't know if i make it clear at the end of the post
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The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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i doesn't make any sense, you will end up with no memory , only kernel remains, other things gets rewritten.
Code:
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/roaming/welcome-to-nz.jsp
this get out of what i know. with the frequencies,
basebands/frequency i have 900/1800
for data check if there is a problem with your apn settings
I see, thanks for your thorough explanation
Ya I know that changing my baseband will probably give me better signals, but I'm asking which one is best for Vodafone NZ because there isn't a baseband for New Zealand.
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings? Don't worry that's been solved already. I flashed to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF and now it's working very stable. But like I said, after flashing to that I now have problems with connecting to my operator whenever I switch to 2G. However, 3G works fine so there's no problem with that.
BTW, I have another problem. After flashing to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF, I couldn't access my OpenRecovery anymore. I didn't delete or change any files on my memory card, so if I could access OpenRecovery and root my device as well as flash a custom rom when I was still on Froyo, then why can't I do it again when I flash to Eclair?
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmation so I know that it is indeed the case.
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmatio
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true story . it should say something about eocd marker and fail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698059
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings?
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sorry... i don't know, last night i thought i read something else, about working 3g and 2g not ..must be the skittles... to much rainbow
i suggest finding out what country baseband are similar to New Zealand and flash/apply that one )