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I just got my g1 and I keep hearing about root. What is it and where can I get it?
Obvisouly I know. My point is, are we all sick of posts like this? Especially when the person doesn't search? Could a mod please make another forum for noobs so they can post these types of thread? Somewhere where they won't get flamed and somewhere where noob posts won't clutter the forums? Something like "xda-developers > dream > noob" or something to that effect?
I know this is the wrong place for this and that it is way out of topic, but the reason why I posted it here was because this is where these noob posts take place and surely regurlars will agree with me. Please do this for the greatewr good of the forums?
Thank you for your time and please respond if you agree.
Also maybe a spell check feature? (See last post haha)
do you really think that the 'noobs' would actually get help from the noob forum?.. think about that for a sec
CBowley said:
I just got my g1 and I keep hearing about root. What is it and where can I get it?
Obvisouly I know. My point is, are we all sick of posts like this? Especially when the person doesn't search? Could a mod please make another forum for noobs so they can post these types of thread? Somewhere where they won't get flamed and somewhere where noob posts won't clutter the forums? Something like "xda-developers > dream > noob" or something to that effect?
I know this is the wrong place for this and that it is way out of topic, but the reason why I posted it here was because this is where these noob posts take place and surely regurlars will agree with me. Please do this for the greatewr good of the forums?
Thank you for your time and please respond if you agree.
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Im not so sure thats the best approach.. Why is such a big deal that a so called noob ask questions, to ensure that he or she doesn't screw there phone up. And i agree if they would just do some research and read stickies,etc. then they would learn something. But if their noobs, then they are probably noobs to the site, and lets face it although this is by far the best forum available for android development its not the easiest to navigate for NOOBS. And if noobs posting noob questions pertaining to android development means that the forum & Community strengthen, then so be it. And Cbowely lets face it some of todays noobs will be tom elite developers, and they are who we depend on.....
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I just got my g1 and I keep hearing about root. What is it and where can I get it?
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If you want root, you will need a shovel, and have to dig and careful not to break the stems. lol, i could not resist.
"root is the user name or account that by default has access to all commands and files on a Linux or other Unix-like operating system. It is also referred to as the root account, root user and the superuser. "
Assuming you are coming from Windows OS environment, Root is like the Administrator account.
How can you get it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
I am noob. Most of my post are thanks for this. Awsome thing that made my phone run better. Or if I have a slight issue with somthing I may post a qestion. And I have had a thread locked befor...that thought was a good qestion but lokking back it wasnt ... but anyways.
I would like see a noob section. I basicaly leech off of this site and if I could help some noobs out I would be more than happy to so the real devs could get stuff done and work stuff out.
I am not saying that noobs asking questions is a bad thing, but I DO think there COULD be a better place for it than the developer section. I do believe the noobs would actually get help in the noob section because some people like helping noobs out. I know I would as well as a lot of other people I see in threads that help out noobs, I believe those type of people would enjoy helping the noobs.
Damn I can't believe that I am posting here because I don't want no Enemies, I have gotten tremendous help from this forum, not only with making my phone 100 times better but I also gained a boat load of knowledge in the process. I am not one that would start a thread unless I was at the last possible step I could be after long hours of reading and reading and seraching and through this process I have even been able to help out others....
but come on... someone posts a question cause they are having an issue that they need to get corrected with their equipment and wham they get roasted by useless reply's telling them to "use search" one after the another, after the another, after another when all someone has to do is provide the answer and tell them they could have found it had they searched... or they could have just given a link to the answer and the thread stops... like this thread I came here to see if I could help because the topic is "new g1 please help" this is about as useless as someone starting a thread on which color G1 should I use...
damn just wasted 15 minutes of my life to type this... remember people that everyone that started here had to post their first message, hence we were all "noobs" once when we started as well....
Again I don't want make ANY enemies I just want to make my phone the envy of everyone that sees it(like yesterday when I bought my daughter her G1 and I was typing on my on screen keyboard and they guy at the T-mobile store says hey you got your update, and said no I got my cupcake and man it sure tates good) and if I can provide a link to help steer someone in the right direction so be it...
end of my venting...
peace!
Exactly my point. I'm not *****ing about people making noob posts asking for help, but the fact is they get bombarded with "use the search button" or "this topic has been covered". I am not saying people SHOULDN'T post help threads, but there isn't a place for it.
My point: There SHOULD be a place for people to ask for help.. like a noob forum. Combing through mostly off topic threads, like the rom threads, can take a while and may not be helpful for noobs who do not understand what an spl or fastboot or dalvic cashe is. So with a noob forum, there would be a place to ask: "I succefully rooted, but the instructions say spl, and my english is not very good, so I am having trouble understaing".
This would help
1. Un-clutter the forums
2. From keeping large threads from going off topic
3. Noobs find they want easier by just asking
I mean I agree that asking a simple question that would take a sentence or less to answer would be easier than searching a crap load of threads for hours to find an answer. If I didn't know what an spl was, and I searched, a lot of threads come up, but not many that explain what an spl is. It could take DAYS to find the answer, when someone could just easily easily answer what an spl is.
Again I am not *****ing about noob posts!! Sometimes they need to be asked. It is impossible for a noob to get simple questions answered without spending hours researching.
I believe a noob forum would benefit us all.
Also the topics could be formated:
Help: phone looping
When problem is resolved:
[Solved] phone looping
everyone is concern about noobs cluttering up fourms with "help o bricked my phone" post yet there is at least 3 of these "remove noobs post" posts...kinda makein the problem worse if u ask me....but hey im still a noob myself so what do u know...
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everyone is concern about noobs cluttering up fourms with "help o bricked my phone" post yet there is at least 3 of these "remove noobs post" posts...kinda makein the problem worse if u ask me....but hey im still a noob myself so what do u know...
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This isn't a "remove noob posts" post, it a "we need a place for noob posts" post.
Ok, so I have searched and searched... Watched Youtube, etc and I can't get definitive answers or instructions on installing roms, radios, etc. on my Google Ion Dev phone. I bought the phone to be different from the Mytouch crowd, but that seems to have been a bad move on my part so far.
I would like someone to either link me to or walk me through installing a rom for my phone. I would really like the Donut 1.6 version with all the bells and whistles like tethering and MT. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks
Do you even look a little bit at the stickies??????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523
As much as people claim to search and search and read and read you would think they would read somewhere that posts are supposed to be put in appropriate forums.
follow the links in my signature. root, flash, flash, flash, wipe, wipe, wipe, report, report, report.
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Ok, so I have searched and searched... Watched Youtube, etc and I can't get definitive answers or instructions on installing roms, radios, etc. on my Google Ion Dev phone. I bought the phone to be different from the Mytouch crowd, but that seems to have been a bad move on my part so far.
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The Ion is not a Dream device, but based on the Sapphire. Please post in the appropriate forum.
Sapphire
This is why i dont care for xda people.. they hate on things so much actually help a brother out.. ****.
MLIGN said:
This is why i dont care for xda people.. they hate on things so much actually help a brother out.. ****.
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this is why XDA has strict rules about posting on their site, if you don't like it ,then don't be a part of the community. Go back to the experts over at the tmobile forums, you can posts any thing any time, anywhere. You guys should feel at home there. .
I prefer to go the "this is where you should post but I'll help you still" route. At least if I can help. Simply telling someone they posted in the wrong place when they're new is no help at all. Yes there are a lot of posts in the wrong section but you don't have to be so anal about it. I didn't know the Ion was a Sapphire device, I didn't know what it was really and my only experience with the Ion is via Soulife's ROM which is stupidly fast. In conclusion, I am great.
Anal you say, ,,
In the Q&A section alone 2522 + threads have been opened . Could you imagine what the development section would've looked like without the Q&A section. .
I think the mods are doing a great job, and members that flame rule breakers, don't stop, burn them to a crisp. .
I don't mean they do things too harshly but that they could at least offer help while telling someone they're posting in the wrong place. I'd hate to be a moderator because it's a thankless job that isn't easy. Please don't misunderstand what I meant
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I prefer to go the "this is where you should post but I'll help you still" route. At least if I can help. Simply telling someone they posted in the wrong place when they're new is no help at all. Yes there are a lot of posts in the wrong section but you don't have to be so anal about it. I didn't know the Ion was a Sapphire device, I didn't know what it was really and my only experience with the Ion is via Soulife's ROM which is stupidly fast. In conclusion, I am great.
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In the device listings in the top page of the XDA forums there are images of each device next to its associated forums; just looking at the front page would tell you that the Ion is not a Dream device, but a Sapphire device.
Also, the reason there are different forums for the two devices is because their hardware and software are different. The Sapphire uses a different SPL and method for flashing ROMs. Asking questions in the Dream forum about the Sapphire board is like going into a hardware store and asking for help with your VCR—keeping the posts in the relevant location is beneficial to everyone involved.
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this is why XDA has strict rules about posting on their site, if you don't like it ,then don't be a part of the community. Go back to the experts over at the tmobile forums, you can posts any thing any time, anywhere. You guys should feel at home there. .
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ok you think about it that way where is your thread with over 50,000 views what have you done? yeah you dont help you just one of those guys that goes around just waiting to ruin someones day.. haha weak..
Originally Posted by MLIGN <<<<<<
The Rules Of This Thread <<<<<<
1.Stay on topic. <<<<<<
2.Keep it a friendly thread.
3.Please do some reseach before you post.
4.Enjoy the ROM!
Guess thats thats only for your thread!!!
this is so stupid
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Originally Posted by MLIGN <<<<<<
The Rules Of This Thread <<<<<<
1.Stay on topic. <<<<<<
2.Keep it a friendly thread.
3.Please do some reseach before you post.
4.Enjoy the ROM!
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lmao good you read my thread... but the reason why i put that was i saw drizzy and cy's thread alot of things on there were b/s so i put my thread up and i wanted it too look decent lol but yeah good job!... you just are still a "MLIG" haha
Thank you all for the help/defense. I didnt realize that I posted in the wrong section. I was up all night/morning trying to figure this all out on my own. When I say I tried searching, I did. When you search Google Ion, you get 10,000+ hits with the mention of "Google" or 10,000+ with any word with "ion" ala "application, etc. If I post something, that means I am really at a loss. You can see that I have been a member for a lil while, but only have a few posts.
I was finally able to do it via trial and error. I didn't make a image of the current Ion rom so that went out the window. The Google Ion aka Magic (developer's phone) is already rooted (I figured this out on my own). Power + Home will access that area just like the other Magics that are rooted. I put the rom on a seperate sd card without partitions etc. Just a straight drag and drop and rename to "update." When everything finished I then reinstalled my original sd card that had all my apps on it. So far the phone runs fine, it still has that typical android jerkiness at times, but I think that its just the memory constraints of the phone. I loaded the Donut version that has the expansion pack for tethering, etc.
Maybe my post can be moved so that it might help someone else that just needed a simple question about this phone answered.
PS:Since I just did a simple drag and drop will I run into problems later? What's the purpose of partitioning?
i have a g1 with donut unrooted and trying to root it but have no success at all. any ways u guys know will work?
Welcome to the community.....
Before getting reamed, check these out.....
Step #1 - Read this
Step #2 - Found by searching "Root"
yeah, what he said. This will either get deleted, moved, or locked. People will flame you. It will not be short. You will not enjoy this. They are not here to hold your hand, and while some will help you, most will give you crap. Technochris has pointed you in the right direction. I suggest you use the search button next time. Or you will be temporarily banned. Good luck. Also, questions like this belong in the Q&A
what the two guys above me said. next time search. and if you have to start a new thread, make sure you post in the correct section or people will be all over you.
also a thread title such as "help" helps no one...
Next time please add something descriptive to your threads title. This is one of the more frustrating things you run across in a lot of forums.
Ok. I don't know if this will get stickied or not, I hope it will. Mods can feel free to change the title of the post if need be. Here's a stab at answering a few questions which are asked repeatedly.
First and foremost:
CLICK THE SEARCH BUTTON BEFORE ASKING ANYTHING WHATSOEVER.
Secondly:
IF YOU HAVE ROOTED YOUR PHONE, MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE...THEN SAVE A COPY OF IT TO YOUR DESKTOP
Don't even bother asking for help if you've screwed up a ROM install and don't have a backup. The only advice you'll get is to use the RUU (which can be found here).
Having gotten that out of the way here are some of the typical questions and answers.
#1. What's the fastest/best/most interesting/etc ROM out there.
Answer: Try them all and see. If you read the first page of each ROM thread the bugs/fixes are posted. If you see a thread without the bugs/fixes, READ THE THREAD FOR THAT ROM AND ASK YOUR QUESTIONS IN IT. Do not create a new thread to ask questions like: Does everything work in <INSERT ROMNAME HERE> rom?
#2. How do I...?
Answer: The answer to your question is probably http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=CDMA%20Hero%20Guides. If it's not there, it's almost definitely under search. Stop asking. Stop creating new threads. It just makes people mad and clutters up the forums.
#3. I think I bricked/broke/messed up my phone
Answer: Did you flash a GSM radio on top of a CDMA phone (or vice versa)? Then probably not. Pull your battery, restore from the NANDROID BACKUP I'm certain you made when you first rooted your phone and try again. Almost all bad ROM flashes can be fixed by wiping and reinstalling your ROM. Check your battery level. Never flash a ROM if the level is below 30%.
#4. I'm getting an error after using the RUU (110, etc)
Answer: Check the wiki guides above. There is a thread which tells you how to recover. If you are too lazy to read through the fixes, here is the thread.
#5. The Sprint 2.x upgrade is coming soon! I have pr00f!
Answer: No, you don't. Stop posting new threads to draw attention to yourself. The ROM upgrade will be out when it's out and not before Sprint is ready to release. Any release date you might have heard is tentative at best and flat out wrong in most cases. Stop creating threads about it, we don't care where you got your information.
#6. Audio doesn't work in my custom 2.x ROM
Answer: Try here. There are two fixes in this thread for it.
#7. I just flashed <INSERT ROMNAME HERE> ROM and everything's all screwed up.
Answer: Wipe everything and start over. In your nandroid recovery, select 'Wipe Data/Factory Reset'. When that's done wipe 'Dalvik-Cache'. Then when that's done (if you have installed a2sd (apps2sd)) wipe SD:EXT. Then reflash the ROM. 9 times out of 10 this will fix it. The 10th time, ask in the ROM thread, do NOT create a new thread for your issue.
#8. My battery life sucks. Or: What's the battery life on this ROM?
Answer:
Search. There are a lot of threads about battery life already. If your answer's not there, ask in the ROM thread (after searching that thread of course).
Android Terms:
a2sd/apps2sd: The process of moving user installed applications from internal storage to the SD card
Rosie: Typically used as a term describing certain graphical characteristics of the Android operating system, primarily the 'bottom bar' of the phone. Example: Stock Rosie is curved, espresso Rosie is not, with rounded edges.
Also:
"For the record, with 2.1 we CAN NOT just alter the rosie launcher or the taskbar or the HTC lockbar. The files are all tied up together. This means that, if you have installed someones taskbar mods, and then later you decide you want a different rosie, when you flash the new rosie it WILL undo some of the taskbar mods....UNLESS you have a themer do a custom just for you and provide them a link to the taskbar that you are using. I cannot stress the part about providing them a link enough. That is just common courtesy. There are plenty of folks out here willing to help you. Many will even help you learn to do it yourself. Just ask nice and be patient. This is a hobby for us, too, and we often have our own projects that we are working on." - tejasrichard
There is a way to do both, however:
"And a little correction about changing only the rosie or taskbar, you can if you use metamorph [/QUOTE]
You can find metamorph in the Android Market." -danaff37
JIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine Also see the following URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_compilation.
LWP: Live Wallpapers. Animated wallpapers that run on your home screen. Until recently, not available in the HTC Sense UI.
MNS: Mobile Network Sharing. The act of using your cell phone as a USB or WIFI connected internet router. Example: Connecting your desktop/latop to the internet via your cell phone's mobile internet.
AOSP: Android Open Source Project http://source.android.com/
PRI: Profile of your phone. Used by your carrier to set up your network/internet settings.
PRL: Preferred Roaming List. List of cell towers close to your present location. This allows the phone to roam more easily since it has a built-in database of towers, rather than having to search for one.
This is getting too long, so I'm going to summarize:
No one likes reading the same questions over and over. If you can't be bothered to at least search for the answers, do us all a favor and don't say anything.
Stop saying things like 'I didn't feel like reading 300 pages of <INSERT ROMNAME HERE>'s thread. How do I?'...USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION TO SEARCH THAT THREAD.
If you don't read the guides, and instruction posts, then screw up your phone, don't whine about it. It's your own fault. It's not the fault of the ROM dev, or the ROM, or anything else. It's YOUR FAULT. Accept responsibility.
Did someone at the Sprint Store piss you off by not accepting your water damaged phone for replacement? Are you mad because they gave you a refurb instead of a brand new phone? We don't care. This is a DEVELOPMENT FORUM. It's for development of roms/themes/etc and discussions of roms/themes/etc. It's not a place to whine that you're being treated badly by Sprint. Post about it on Sprint's forums.
I think that covers the basics. If you're new here, do us all a favor and read this post, follow what's inside it. If you're not new and are a chronic whiner, read this post, follow what's inside it. Just stop cluttering the forums and making it impossible to find any information in it at all.
EPIC!!!!
Touche'
Ok, so I am fairly new and broke 4 out of the 7 rules... But I am behaving now, and actually appreciate the basis of this Thread. That said. I didn't know what I didn't know and having this Thread at least gives new folks clear and pointed fair warning.
Great POST!!!!
lol
It wasn't aimed at you specifically, or at anyone really. It's just a general set of guidelines designed to curb repetitive posting.
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Thank you! Honestly it's sad you have to make a thread like this, but it was definitely needed. Wayyy too many noobs come here asking questions that have been answered many many times over.
great read! But you know the only ones who actually read this are those of us that actually follow the guidelines and it will simply pass by the 'others' without a second glance lol
yeah, maybe edit the title to official 2.1 sprint download... haha
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great read! But you know the only ones who actually read this are those of us that actually follow the guidelines and it will simply pass by the 'others' without a second glance lol
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Perhaps. But if those of us who follow the guidelines refuse to ANSWER the noobs who don't read this, except for maybe a link to this thread, there will be fewer BS threads to have to deal with.
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Perhaps. But if those of us who follow the guidelines refuse to ANSWER the noobs who don't read this, except for maybe a link to this thread, there will be fewer BS threads to have to deal with.
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+10000000 Don't respond to threads just paste links to this thread good idea.
J/K. Good idea.
Just bookmarked it to make linking easier!
How about this noob question? where can I find a dummies guide to terms? A really good one stop shop. Stuff noobs like me don't know like rosie, apps2..., you name it. If its out there I Want to know what it is. P.S. I checked both wiki s and did a search for the word "terms" in titles.
T.I.A
Yamus
Re: Answers for Noobs who like to ask questions. READ THIS BEFORE ASKING ANYTHING.
There is already a thread like that actually... lol
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yamus08 said:
How about this noob question? where can I find a dummies guide to terms? A really good one stop shop. Stuff noobs like me don't know like rosie, apps2..., you name it. If its out there I Want to know what it is. P.S. I checked both wiki s and did a search for the word "terms" in titles.
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What terms specifically? I'll add them to the OP.
Edit: Added the two you listed.
Nothing specifically, at this very moment but, I come across new ones all the time when reading different posts. If it's cool, I'll just keep posting them here as I come to them and, if you think they should be in the op you can add them there or, if not, maybe just reply back down in the thread.
BTW. I know that I can google most terms and find them, and I have no problem whatsoever doing that, it's just nice when someone coming here to learn can expedite the process a lil with the help of some of the seniors.
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
bigems said:
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
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I'll answer to keep this thread on page 1...yes
MNS = mobile network sharing
JIT = Just-in-time compiler WIKI
tstack77 said:
I'll answer to keep this thread on page 1...yes
MNS = mobile network sharing
JIT = Just-in-time compiler WIKI
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Me too...
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
REALLY????? 3 P I C F A I LLMGTFY.COM, Try That One....
Noob Tube
I am a noob, i like finding and searching for things, its awesome, thats ok though, i wont be a noob for long,...................
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Me too...
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
REALLY????? 3 P I C F A I LLMGTFY.COM, Try That One....
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Not helpful. The point here is not to create a thread full of *****ing, but to create a SINGLE thread so that we don't have 15000000 posts of the same thing. So if you can't help, stfu.
I'll add the other terms listed to the front page.
hi guys i have lg 4x hd (Rooted) after i rooted my phone and installing ROM Manger when i tried to go to recovery mode i saw red words lge_Security and lg logo please i need help cant insert images because this is my first thread sorry for bad english
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hi guys i have lg 4x hd (Rooted) after i rooted my phone and installing ROM Manger when i tried to go to recovery mode i saw red words lge_Security and lg logo please i need help cant insert images because this is my first thread sorry for bad english
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refer to my signature. stop using big letters.
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refer to my signature. stop using big letters.
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First of all, this should be moved to the Q&A section, and he may use big letters if he wants too, if he wasn't allowed then xda would remove the feature i'm sure.
If you could update your signature with links to tut's of how to do each step it would help a lot more then just " Look at my Signature " Your signature is not helpful at all to new users. " Unlock Bootloader " Well how do you expect someone who has never done it before to know the steps in which to take to undergo the unlocking procedure.
Checl out the " Sticky's Roll Up Thread " In the General/Q&A section " and you should be able to find the corresponding methods to help you get flashing and onto your desired Rom, welcome to the community, any other problems, feel free to open a thread and we will be sure to help you as soon as possible (Have a search first thou ofcourse )
Happy Flashing bro.
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First of all, this should be moved to the Q&A section, and he may use big letters if he wants too, if he wasn't allowed then xda would remove the feature i'm sure.
If you could update your signature with links to tut's of how to do each step it would help a lot more then just " Look at my Signature " Your signature is not helpful at all to new users. " Unlock Bootloader " Well how do you expect someone who has never done it before to know the steps in which to take to undergo the unlocking procedure.
Checl out the " Sticky's Roll Up Thread " In the General/Q&A section " and you should be able to find the corresponding methods to help you get flashing and onto your desired Rom, welcome to the community, any other problems, feel free to open a thread and we will be sure to help you as soon as possible (Have a search first thou ofcourse )
Happy Flashing bro.
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big letters are there to emphasize something. if you're using it in normal post, it's just as douchy as writing in full-caps.
my signature has enough info to point every newcommer into right direction. it's there to make sure they do steps in the right sequence. details can be found by searching the (sub)forum. also, my signature is the answer to his question on what he did wrong - he flashed custom recoveery without unlocking bootloader. once he knows what he did wrong, he can move on to fixing it and doing it properly.
i honestly don't understand why people expect to be spoonfed info? why are people lazy to read stickies/search forums? they will get their answer faster that way, instead of waiting for someone to provide them with everything in another thread they created.
i really dont want to sound entitled, *****y or anything. but the amount of people hijacking threads, posting new threads improperly, and generally not being good users is too high. thats why i added the info i did to my signature, so people can "follow the breadcrumbs" to solve their problems. cheers.
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big letters are there to emphasize something. if you're using it in normal post, it's just as douchy as writing in full-caps.
my signature has enough info to point every newcommer into right direction. it's there to make sure they do steps in the right sequence. details can be found by searching the (sub)forum. also, my signature is the answer to his question on what he did wrong - he flashed custom recoveery without unlocking bootloader. once he knows what he did wrong, he can move on to fixing it and doing it properly.
i honestly don't understand why people expect to be spoonfed info? why are people lazy to read stickies/search forums? they will get their answer faster that way, instead of waiting for someone to provide them with everything in another thread they created.
i really dont want to sound entitled, *****y or anything. but the amount of people hijacking threads, posting new threads improperly, and generally not being good users is too high. thats why i added the info i did to my signature, so people can "follow the breadcrumbs" to solve their problems. cheers.
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Well most users need more then breadcrums, say you got your first Android Device, and it was an expensive device to you and you was scared about bricking it or whatever, you wouldn't want to use intuition for something that could potential screw you over. For Example, i'm not going to become a Qualified Chef by searching and following Top recipes online am i?! It's not gonna help me achieve anything, a tutor who can Point you in the right direction and who can Help you out with steps you don't understand, and who will be there to answer any Problems you face.
Sometimes most people prefer to be Taken through tutorials Step by Step and your signature is very minimal. So therefor should not be used as the answer. It's users like you that cause so many duplicate threads to be opened.
If your not going to answer the question fully, and with enough information (Links) then don't bother answering it and leave it someone else who can provide the correct information. If it has already been answered, link him to the corresponding thread and give him the reassurance that a PM is all he needs if he doesn't understand what is the thread. The reason you have SOO many more POSTS then THANKS is because what you are posting is not helpful to other users. If you are going to have a tut in your sig and want people to follow it, add links otherwise don't bother posting half assed answers. It's not helpful. If your not gonna do a good job and get annoyed by noobs. Leave xda.
For information on how to follow this guys half assed unhelpful signature, go here and make you sure 1. Upgrade to JB (Officially) 2. Root 3. Unlock Bootloader (Various Methods, use whichever works for you) 4. Flash recovery (TWRP/CWM, Personal choice) 5. Flash whatever you like!
Stickies found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2225910
Any problems drop me a PM, It's what xda users are meant to be here for, to help eachother out!
penguin449 said:
Well most users need more then breadcrums, say you got your first Android Device, and it was an expensive device to you and you was scared about bricking it or whatever, you wouldn't want to use intuition for something that could potential screw you over. For Example, i'm not going to become a Qualified Chef by searching and following Top recipes online am i?! It's not gonna help me achieve anything, a tutor who can Point you in the right direction and who can Help you out with steps you don't understand, and who will be there to answer any Problems you face.
Sometimes most people prefer to be Taken through tutorials Step by Step and your signature is very minimal. So therefor should not be used as the answer. It's users like you that cause so many duplicate threads to be opened.
If your not going to answer the question fully, and with enough information (Links) then don't bother answering it and leave it someone else who can provide the correct information. If it has already been answered, link him to the corresponding thread and give him the reassurance that a PM is all he needs if he doesn't understand what is the thread. The reason you have SOO many more POSTS then THANKS is because what you are posting is not helpful to other users. If you are going to have a tut in your sig and want people to follow it, add links otherwise don't bother posting half assed answers. It's not helpful. If your not gonna do a good job and get annoyed by noobs. Leave xda.
For information on how to follow this guys half assed unhelpful signature, go here and make you sure 1. Upgrade to JB (Officially) 2. Root 3. Unlock Bootloader (Various Methods, use whichever works for you) 4. Flash recovery (TWRP/CWM, Personal choice) 5. Flash whatever you like!
Stickies found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2225910
Any problems drop me a PM, It's what xda users are meant to be here for, to help eachother out!
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this was my first android device. paid it 300 euro of my hard earned money. before i bought it, i sat down, read about the android, read about the device, read the stickies, followed the tutorials. if i encountered an error, i searched if someone else already had it. if i could not find someone else with the same issue, i'd post new topic/post.
there ARE tutorials around the site, i'm well aware of that. my signature isn't step-by-step tutorial, it's there to POINT PEOPLE INTO RIGHT DIRECTION, and it's doing it's job as i've been told.
on the other hand, you're not a mod - you dont have the right to tell me what i should or should not post, as long as it's within the rules (and this guys topic is totaly out of the rules - wrong subforum, question asked numerous times). i have 5:1 post to thanks ratio becouse i ask and discuss a lot. helping someone once in five posts is good enough for me. for you it seems, it's just a measure of your e-peen.
in the end, you enable breaking of rules by letting people know it's ok to open another and another and another topic on same issues that have been discussed numerous times over. with not telling them that what they're doign is wrong, you're enabling every other noob that comes here to, instead of search for answers to his questions, to open another topic anywhere he pleases, flood the forum with useless posts and not be sanctioned by it.
atleast i tell them proper ettiquete - and the ettiequete is for them to search more for answers to questions already answered.
now i'll say it again, you're not a mod, so you telling me to "leave xda" has zero to none practical effect. i will post whatever i want within the rules of the forum.
ending my post on a not-as-assholish note as your post is, i wish you all the best. over and out from this thread.
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this was my first android device. paid it 300 euro of my hard earned money. before i bought it, i sat down, read about the android, read about the device, read the stickies, followed the tutorials. if i encountered an error, i searched if someone else already had it. if i could not find someone else with the same issue, i'd post new topic/post.
there ARE tutorials around the site, i'm well aware of that. my signature isn't step-by-step tutorial, it's there to POINT PEOPLE INTO RIGHT DIRECTION, and it's doing it's job as i've been told.
on the other hand, you're not a mod - you dont have the right to tell me what i should or should not post, as long as it's within the rules (and this guys topic is totaly out of the rules - wrong subforum, question asked numerous times). i have 5:1 post to thanks ratio becouse i ask and discuss a lot. helping someone once in five posts is good enough for me. for you it seems, it's just a measure of your e-peen.
in the end, you enable breaking of rules by letting people know it's ok to open another and another and another topic on same issues that have been discussed numerous times over. with not telling them that what they're doign is wrong, you're enabling every other noob that comes here to, instead of search for answers to his questions, to open another topic anywhere he pleases, flood the forum with useless posts and not be sanctioned by it.
atleast i tell them proper ettiquete - and the ettiequete is for them to search more for answers to questions already answered.
now i'll say it again, you're not a mod, so you telling me to "leave xda" has zero to none practical effect. i will post whatever i want within the rules of the forum.
ending my post on a not-as-assholish note as your post is, i wish you all the best. over and out from this thread.
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Now you see this is the main reason that i have more respect then you do from other users, just stop being such a butthurt little childish kid about it and HELP THEM OUT if the thread is duplicate, link them to the correct one and report the thread. simple as.
XDA Rules may state search before posting, so chances are they probably have already! And that's why they're opening a new thread. You was a noob once, how would you have liked it if people were being ass's to you?! Because compared to me your a noob, and i may start treating you like you are dense and know nothing. XDA Rules can be bent. so what if he opens a new thread. It can be closed, moved, and deleted if it needs to be, if you don't bloody like it don't look on it.
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't bloody say it at all, it's the internet, let him post where he wants and what he wants. you can always request it to be maintained.
Goddamn butthurt users. We are here to help, not be ass's because we want to feel less noobish then the next guy