[Q] ram optimization? - Motorola Droid and Milestone General

i have a rooted moto droid1 w/cm6 and 1.1 ghz but my memory is really bad. my apps keep freaking out and closing. im thinking its because my ram is being used up. i dont normally use an app manager but when i do all the apps imediatly reopen, normaly im running with like 30-28 mg is there any way to optimize this. droid1 rules wish i could get the ram as big as the newer phones. anyways thanks help would b awesome.

Use compcache.
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is that an app in the market? or a setting... wat does it do?

wow nvm i figured it out thanks man

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Just bought this app and it beats the hell out of adding to the. Sh file and all the terminal commands. Definitely worth a dollar
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check out jrummy16's overclock app, just out as well. at this point, it's better than the unstable apps one, IMO. it's called droid x/2 overclock in the market.
Does jrummy's app set it at boot, or is that just an option? I don't want to lock myself into a speed that isn't stable. I know the app from unstable at least for now will not set the speed at boot.
I just bought both of them. Need to support these guys!
Bought JRummy's app and have a question. After setting it the way I want it, I checked my setscaling.sh and there are no changes. SetCPU shows the right OC speed. This normal? I'm pretty new to OC
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I bought jrummy's app also, I am getting an error tho saying failed to install overclocking components..... any idea what i might be missing? am i suppose to have additional files? thanks for any insight you can give
intrloper said:
I bought jrummy's app also, I am getting an error tho saying failed to install overclocking components..... any idea what i might be missing? am i suppose to have additional files? thanks for any insight you can give
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Yep, I picked up Jimmy's app as well and also get the same error. I sent him and email and tweeted him. He did respond and it does look as though he is both aware and working on the issue...
Quick question though, are you running Rubix or Fission?
Wow just as I got done posting that Jared got his update out!!!!
And it is now working!
after changing setting using jrummy's app to see what the voltage it is running at?

Best task manager for Nexus S

Just got my Nexus S 4G today and I was wondering what's the best task manager for our phone ... thanks
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Theirs no need for one mate. I was fond of using a task manager on all my phones but on this beats of a device you do not need one.
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Theirs no need for one mate. I was fond of using a task manager on all my phones but on this beats of a device you do not need one.
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OK cool thanks for the info man, I'm so use to one coming from a SGS4G
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He's right, you don't need one. Especially third party ones. If you really need to kill a task or two, though, then the built in task manager will do the trick. Just a note though, killing cached tasked doesn't actually free up space (in my experience anyways).
He's right, you don't need one. Especially third party ones. If you really need to kill a task or two, though, then the built in task manager will do the trick. Just a note though, killing cached tasked doesn't actually free up space (in my experience anyways).
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This will sound dumb but how do I get to the built in task manager ... sorry this phone is a bit different than the SGS4G
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Yogi3 said:
This will sound dumb but how do I get to the built in task manager ... sorry this phone is a bit different than the SGS4G
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Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage Applications.
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Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage Applications.
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That's the long way.
Just press menu and choose Manage Applications
Or add a shortcut to it on homescreen.
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Thanks guys for you're help and them what do I do after that?
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On the Running tab you will see all running applications and services. Click the one you want to stop and then click stop.
FYI I have never had a need to do this. You're more likely to harm then good when you go killing tasks in Android 2.2 or higher.
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matt2053 said:
On the Running tab you will see all running applications and services. Click the one you want to stop and then click stop.
FYI I have never had a need to do this. You're more likely to harm then good when you go killing tasks in Android 2.2 or higher.
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Oh OK I did not know this ... and again thanks all of you for you're input I greatly appreciate it
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Yogi3 said:
Just got my Nexus S 4G today and I was wondering what's the best task manager for our phone ... thanks
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I still thinking Advanced Task Killer is a lot simpler since it has a widget that lets me kill all wanted apps on one click.
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I still thinking Advanced Task Killer is a lot simpler since it has a widget that lets me kill all wanted apps on one click.
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Can I ask in what circumstances you do this? I don't understand why people kill applications.
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Can I ask in what circumstances you do this? I don't understand why people kill applications.
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if he wants to cripple his phone, let him cripple his phone.
after all, its his choice.... then afterwards, if hes complaining about poor battery life, something not working.. then we'll just sit there and be like "told ya so!"
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Can I ask in what circumstances you do this? I don't understand why people kill applications.
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Usually I kill apps when I feel its getting a bit slow. I do not know why but sometimes my apps use the memory leaving only 50mb left, and that makes the phone laggy and sh*t. Should it be like that? maybe I have virus?
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Usually I kill apps when I feel its getting a bit slow. I do not know why but sometimes my apps use the memory leaving only 50mb left, and that makes the phone laggy and sh*t. Should it be like that? maybe I have virus?
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What do you need that memory for? It is there to be used by your phone, let your phone use it. It does not cause your phone to slow down.
Memory is there so that your phone can load data from storage and get it quickly to the CPU. That is why the memory is there. Android keeps important information in memory. Then it can move it quickly to CPU when needed.
It sounds like you would prefer the phone to not use any of the memory in which case I ask why have memory at all then?
"Free memory" is wasted memory.
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they are right, on 2.2 and up there is never a need for an appkiller. the way the OS is designed its able to keep all its apps in memory, that was one of the primary changes in 2.2 from 2.1. try not using it and see how it runs, just resist the compulsory need to kill apps XD
If you are using cm, you can use long back press to kill foreground app too. Enable in programs, dev
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Try using a BFS kernel, it doesn't kill apps, but gives the app in the foreground more resources
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Usually I kill apps when I feel its getting a bit slow. I do not know why but sometimes my apps use the memory leaving only 50mb left, and that makes the phone laggy and sh*t. Should it be like that? maybe I have virus?
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Please do yourself a favor and read this article -
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
You know it's hard to say. Google TELLS you you shouldn't need a task manager, and if Steve jobs told you this, would you be fuming and flaming Apple?
But seriously, the reason we shouldnt need it is because Google has a decent RAM managing system. But it's not really THAT great. What ends up happening is we play with stuff like minfree and mess with foreground memory usage and stuff. The truth is Google's memory management isn't perfect. That's why we brute force add RAM to our devices goign from 256mb in the Droid to 512mb and to 768mb in some HTC devices and now 1gb in the Atrix and SGS2.
It's pathetic because I come from the 256mb Milestone. Instead of optimizing memory use on an Android device, we have to go overboard. People keep saying task managers aren't necessary, but in Milestone development we mod the hell out of the memory management of Android.
True, task managers and autokilling shouldn't be necessary, but at the same time it won't kill your battery life UNLESS it's doing killing every 5 minutes or something. Once an hour will probably dent your battery life by 1% at most anyway.
The usefulness of task killers is often overstated, but the negatives are often overstated as well.

Will I ever have full control of my memory???

Do you think they have any plans on changing how Android manages memory. Reason why I'm asking it's really getting annoying having keep using the task killer. Yea, yea I know that some claim that it manages memory well, but "I Think Not" the more apps you have the more memory issues you have. I can only imagine how great Android would of been having total control of how I use my memory!!
If you are rooted you have that capability.
Go to market and get Memory Optimizer for root users and it should help.
Another good one is Sysctl Config
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After 2.3 update all kinds of app open....

Anyone else having similar problems with apps always opening. I'm constantly opening up app manager and closing music, Google plus, email, maps, message, etc.....I back out of everything so I know the apps are closed. It just seems as if every app I open its listed in the app manager as running even though I close them.
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Anyone else having similar problems with apps always opening. I'm constantly opening up app manager and closing music, Google plus, email, maps, message, etc.....I back out of everything so I know the apps are closed. It just seems as if every app I open its listed in the app manager as running even though I close them.
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Are all these apps synching?
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Are all these apps synching?
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Are you positive? Some apps sync by default.
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The same thing happens here! It doesn't matter if I force stop the app or use the application manager but apps will always start back up on their own after I stop them including apps that don't sync.
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What ROM are you on?
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What ROM are you on?
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2.3.5 stock. They just open on their own.
It did it on V20C. I switched to V20P and it still does it.
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im having the same problem here I updated to 2.3.5 with v20p and now it seems like every app is reopening by themselves and I'm constantly running the task manager.
btw what's the average RAM u guys get? cuz the best I've got has been like 240mb of free RAM and I doing get why...
oh and I'm on a thrill P925
I've had the same problem. I ended up installing AutoKiller Memory and got the paid version. I selected the Extreme preset and applied all 10 tweaks. Now my phone runs a whole lot faster. I had trouble running my SPB Shell 3D launcher smoothly as well as games like Shadowgun until I did this. Now I appear to be having no more problems.
I'm assuming it's the memory management on 2.3.5.
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I'm assuming it's the memory management on 2.3.5.
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It certainly is. Otherwise a utility like AutoKiller Memory would not have resolved my issues. I really had been frustrated for some time. Many don't like task killing apps like this, but if you want to run Gingerbread, SPB Shell 3D Launcher, and lots of apps including some demanding games like ShadowGun then it can make all of the difference.
Same problem on my end. I have loads of apps randomly active in memory. It wasn't like this before the update.
does this happens with v21D and other updates?
cuz im with v20p but im thinking about switching to v21D
idriff said:
does this happens with v21D and other updates?
cuz im with v20p but im thinking about switching to v21D
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I don't think V21D is downloadable anymore. :l
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I have all firmware saved and can email on request
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Mine always opening and I app kill it, opens right up like in 20 secs
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I don't know if this is a software problem or not but knowing att or LG there won't be a.maintenance update.
I don't know if this is a software problem or not but knowing att or LG there won't be a maintenance update.
idriff said:
im having the same problem here I updated to 2.3.5 with v20p and now it seems like every app is reopening by themselves and I'm constantly running the task manager.
btw what's the average RAM u guys get? cuz the best I've got has been like 240mb of free RAM and I doing get why...
oh and I'm on a thrill P925
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When everything is killed for 5 seconds I have around 210mb. Usually my phone will bog down to 50mb and go launcher will pop up asking to clear memory.
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[Q] Cant do an actual /real Multitask

I am using Xperia SP (Indian version) C5302 Build No. 12.0.A.1.1211 Didnt update so far.
My problem is that the multitask feature is kinda like the old iPhones. When i switch apps, the previous app is terminated or loads from beginning.
For example.
I was surfing facebook from Chrome browser. I received a text. I checked my txt, replied, and when i switched back to Chrome browser the webpage started loading afresh. Is ONE webpage of Facebook too much for the "last year flagship defeater"???
While playing games,like Little Empire (online game) i was referring to online guide. So i switched to Chrome browser to see the instructions on how to defeat a boss stage. When i switched back to Little Empire the app booted from beginning. I mean wtf!! How am i supposed to refer to guides if the moment i minimize the game it switches off.
The phone has 1 GB RAM. What is the point of multitasking when apps dont really multitask. The moment u minimise its gone.
Now this doesnt happen all the time.
When i play Need For Speed Most Wanted, a game which is pretty demanding, it never closes. Even after i switch back to this game after texting , it resumes from pause menu.
Is there a way to make my phone multitask?
Some games don't work well with multitask, such as that random game you posted. Chrome is known to be ram intensive, and probably the only browser that causes launcher redraw. Use firefox instead.
If you don't like your phone, get something else...
I'm sorry bro but there's no way. The. Fact is that not our phone but android doesn't do full multitasking. Android keeps a program in memory only if the program demands it to. But even then it closes the program if another resource hogging program is loaded.
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I was just wondering if converting a app into a System App might help. (And restart the phone)
For a game it is not very useful because it will be loaded at boot but for a Launcher it might help
that a third party launcher is less often redrawn. I think Android will kill non system apps first so the Launcher might stay in your ram longer.
Please correct me if I'm completely mistaken
In the free RAM 200M can not be used because the Sony locked
So always because of insufficient RAM to kill other processes
The pre allocated ram is used by debug file system, logger, camera pmem etc you can't change it unless you have custom kernel
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334948
Is there a way to have more RAM ? As in stop or disale certain background apps as we do in Windows on Pc. Like a parmanent thing..
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mikael_schiffer said:
Is there a way to have more RAM ? As in stop or disale certain background apps as we do in Windows on Pc. Like a parmanent thing..
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Use "Greenify" for stop selected user app to running in background (facebook, maps...) and "Autokiller Memory Optimizer" to change minfree value (lmk). So instead to kill apps when your RAM goes under 200Mo, you can change the value to 50Mo. It's a great tool !
ROOT needed for these 2 apps
So what is the total and the free ram? By default, how much free ram is available?
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Marsou77 said:
Use "Greenify" for stop selected user app to running in background (facebook, maps...) and "Autokiller Memory Optimizer" to change minfree value (lmk). So instead to kill apps when your RAM goes under 200Mo, you can change the value to 50Mo. It's a great tool !
ROOT needed for these 2 apps
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which
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Use "Moderate" or "System Default".
In fact "System Default" is stock LMK of Android, not stock LMK of your phone.
Marsou77 said:
Use "Moderate" or "System Default".
In fact "System Default" is stock LMK of Android, not stock LMK of your phone.
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Gonna try it and report later. Thanks
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Gonna try it and report later. Thanks
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Tried it but didn't worked. It delays a little the closing but the app closing comes anyway.
Maybe 1 GB isn't really enough. Sad that ZR won't be sold in SG,
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Maybe 1 GB isn't really enough. Sad that ZR won't be sold in SG,
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OFF TOPIC: Are you from Singapore?
ON TOPIC: Maybe you can try using a Linux swap partition. I never got one to work, so I dunno if it helps. But you can always try
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OFF TOPIC: Are you from Singapore?
ON TOPIC: Maybe you can try using a Linux swap partition. I never got one to work, so I dunno if it helps. But you can always try
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X.x isn't it obvious there is Singapore word under my forum id?
Once I had the same problem with Galaxy S3 too, but I was rooted it installed busybox PRO and RAM Manager PRO, and in RAM manager I choosed hard multtiasking, and voila no more problems with redraws, and I even tried to keep opened NFS Most Wanted, and to open some more apps, and I found everything what I left,so 1GB isn't too little, it's Android memory management problem I think.
And also delete bloatware,because some sh*t is memory hungry and can cause this problem too
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Once I had the same problem with Galaxy S3 too, but I was rooted it installed busybox PRO and RAM Manager PRO, and in RAM manager I choosed hard multtiasking, and voila no more problems with redraws, and I even tried to keep opened NFS Most Wanted, and to open some more apps, and I found everything what I left,so 1GB isn't too little, it's Android memory management problem I think.
And also delete bloatware,because some sh*t is memory hungry and can cause this problem too
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Man, have u tried enabling Swap? If you have, is there any significant improvement in performance? There's a caution in the software that Swap will make my SD card degrade. I'm so confused with this
Qdezi said:
Man, have u tried enabling Swap? If you have, is there any significant improvement in performance? There's a caution in the software that Swap will make my SD card degrade. I'm so confused with this
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I don't have SD card so I don't know

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