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Hi guys. Hopefully this is the correct board to post in. I'm a former fan of CyanogenMod. I used the old CyanogenMod builds that ran Android 2.1, but when 2.2 came out, I jumped to a rooted stock 2.2 ROM.
After trying CyanogenMod 6, I'm pretty disappointed. It felt much slower than stock, and it no longer had the CyanogenMod feel.
Anyhow, are there any developers that actually make clean and stable ROMs? With every N1 ROM I've looked at, the developers seem obsessed with changing the Android GUI around, and not adding more important features.
There really seems to be no ROM that keeps the default Android GUI look and feel, but adds things like a percentage in the battery icon, a white-on-black Messaging app tweak, and some of the under-the-hood performance tweaks.
Maybe I'm just angry, and maybe no one shares the same sentiments as me, but I'm just curious to hear back from others. Am I going to have to bake my own ROM to get what I want?
Thanks in advance anyone who took the time to read my rant.
Edit: I wanted to note, after seeing a friend's Motorola Droid with the BuglessBeast 2.2 ROM on it, that looks like almost exactly what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, that seems to be a Droid-specific ROM.
Push Mms.apk from latest CM6.0.0-RC1 to whatever ROM you wish, and you got the black background in MMS.
There are some close-to-stock ROMs, like Geo411m's.
Personally, I use LeoFroyo with black bar until CM supports SD-EXT in framework, that would be a good enough reason to switch. I'm already tempted to switch to have browser enhancements, but I don't feel it's a good enough reason by itself. For some reason, Browser.apk crashes when pushed, probably has some CM-only framework dependencies.
I'm a fan of Kang o Rama
I'm really liking Geo411m's ROM, aside from the trackball-unlock (no way to disable it as far as I can find?).
Maybe I should just learn to bake my own ROMs-- I don't really want much past the stock ROM, just a couple things, really.
There wouldn't happen to be any informative threads on how to do so? I looked around but couldn't find much.
Jack_R1 said:
Push Mms.apk from latest CM6.0.0-RC1 to whatever ROM you wish, and you got the black background in MMS.
There are some close-to-stock ROMs, like Geo411m's.
Personally, I use LeoFroyo with black bar until CM supports SD-EXT in framework, that would be a good enough reason to switch. I'm already tempted to switch to have browser enhancements, but I don't feel it's a good enough reason by itself. For some reason, Browser.apk crashes when pushed, probably has some CM-only framework dependencies.
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Thanks for this.. i was just about to start a thread about how to get black background.
ExodusC said:
Hi guys. Hopefully this is the correct board to post in. I'm a former fan of CyanogenMod. I used the old CyanogenMod builds that ran Android 2.1, but when 2.2 came out, I jumped to a rooted stock 2.2 ROM.
After trying CyanogenMod 6, I'm pretty disappointed. It felt much slower than stock, and it no longer had the CyanogenMod feel.
Anyhow, are there any developers that actually make clean and stable ROMs? With every N1 ROM I've looked at, the developers seem obsessed with changing the Android GUI around, and not adding more important features.
There really seems to be no ROM that keeps the default Android GUI look and feel, but adds things like a percentage in the battery icon, a white-on-black Messaging app tweak, and some of the under-the-hood performance tweaks.
Maybe I'm just angry, and maybe no one shares the same sentiments as me, but I'm just curious to hear back from others. Am I going to have to bake my own ROM to get what I want?
Thanks in advance anyone who took the time to read my rant.
Edit: I wanted to note, after seeing a friend's Motorola Droid with the BuglessBeast 2.2 ROM on it, that looks like almost exactly what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, that seems to be a Droid-specific ROM.
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There is no one ROM that is perfect for everyone. Maybe you guys are new to Android and this is your first device. Maybe you've just been spoiled with the variety of developer support... but most of us former G1 owners who rooted were very adept at picking bits from various ROMs and pushing those bits into a developed ROM that was already largely what we were looking for. I remember downloading and pulling out frameworks, changing icons, pulling/pushing apps, etc. That way, you end up with EXACTLY what you want. Perfect example... I was reading comments on Engadget to Cyanogen's latest Froyo build for the G1, and some ass complained about the "ugly" rounded notification bar. All he has to do is push over one or two files from any of a gazillion other ROMs and he'd have his original notification bar back.
Think of custom ROMs as a starting point... and then find and push the parts of other ROMs that you really like over a good custom ROM. You'll learn a lot and end up self-sufficient. You'll probably also feel very proud of doing some of the work personally.
ummm, what exactly is wrong with MoDaCo ROMs? modaco's philosophy is being as close as possible to a stock ROM, with just a few improved tweaks. modaco ROMs are like stock ROMs. you tried this?
uansari1 said:
There is no one ROM that is perfect for everyone. Maybe you guys are new to Android and this is your first device. Maybe you've just been spoiled with the variety of developer support... but most of us former G1 owners who rooted were very adept at picking bits from various ROMs and pushing those bits into a developed ROM that was already largely what we were looking for. I remember downloading and pulling out frameworks, changing icons, pulling/pushing apps, etc. That way, you end up with EXACTLY what you want. Perfect example... I was reading comments on Engadget to Cyanogen's latest Froyo build for the G1, and some ass complained about the "ugly" rounded notification bar. All he has to do is push over one or two files from any of a gazillion other ROMs and he'd have his original notification bar back.
Think of custom ROMs as a starting point... and then find and push the parts of other ROMs that you really like over a good custom ROM. You'll learn a lot and end up self-sufficient. You'll probably also feel very proud of doing some of the work personally.
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I agree 100%.
You'll probably like this
ExodusC said:
Hi guys. Hopefully this is the correct board to post in. I'm a former fan of CyanogenMod. I used the old CyanogenMod builds that ran Android 2.1, but when 2.2 came out, I jumped to a rooted stock 2.2 ROM.
After trying CyanogenMod 6, I'm pretty disappointed. It felt much slower than stock, and it no longer had the CyanogenMod feel.
Anyhow, are there any developers that actually make clean and stable ROMs? With every N1 ROM I've looked at, the developers seem obsessed with changing the Android GUI around, and not adding more important features.
There really seems to be no ROM that keeps the default Android GUI look and feel, but adds things like a percentage in the battery icon, a white-on-black Messaging app tweak, and some of the under-the-hood performance tweaks.
Maybe I'm just angry, and maybe no one shares the same sentiments as me, but I'm just curious to hear back from others. Am I going to have to bake my own ROM to get what I want?
Thanks in advance anyone who took the time to read my rant.
Edit: I wanted to note, after seeing a friend's Motorola Droid with the BuglessBeast 2.2 ROM on it, that looks like almost exactly what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, that seems to be a Droid-specific ROM.
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Try Modaco's roms, their basically stock, just rooted. His was the first one I tried, but I switched to evil because I like black status bar and theme. Modaco's roms are not themed, and the same way stock is set up his is set up, nothing extra. If I did'nt like my roms themed, I would definitely rock one of his for sure.
Using geomod411's rom myself. Added a2ext support and it's all good. It's practically stock so I'll be looking to add things like black mms later.
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Push Mms.apk from latest CM6.0.0-RC1 to whatever ROM you wish, and you got the black background in MMS.
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I tried this but it didn't work. I had to push it from Recovery because when the phone was on I kept getting an error about it being read-only.
adb push Mms.apk /system/app/Mms.apk
Worked in recovery... but my text messaging interface has not changed. It's still the stock/white.
EDIT: Did it a ghetto way. Used Root Explorer, removed /system/app/Mms.apk -- then installed the Mms.apk that I pulled out of the CM6 zip. That worked.
Are you seriously complaining about Cyanogens CM6 RC1?... You do know what RC1 means right?
Anyway, CM6 is the best release of 2.2 for N1 out there.. it's just in a working stage now and there are allot of things to fix... that's why it is a Release Candidate... and it was in Alpha testing not long ago.
If you want a clean and simple go back to stock...
blas4me said:
Try Modaco's roms, their basically stock, just rooted. His was the first one I tried, but I switched to evil because I like black status bar and theme. Modaco's roms are not themed, and the same way stock is set up his is set up, nothing extra. If I did'nt like my roms themed, I would definitely rock one of his for sure.
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I use modaco with desire theme. You can add any theme you want with metamorph.
I just saw a couple posts regarding CM6, but I'm running TheOfficial ROM from Enom and I love it. Flashed to CM6 just to give it a shot and I am indifferent on the matter... Maybe someone can provide some input on to why i should use CM6.
Thanks a lot
Zach
Both are very solid roms to use, last few months I've been using enomter's rom and changed a few things on that. CM6 just came out and its been awhile since I used a rom from cyanogen so I flashed it and currently been running that. Also changed a few things, added enomthers, kang o rama wallpapers, changed the phone to galaxy s phone, not sure what else Ive done so far.
Its all personal preference, I loved used enomthers themed version, cm6 has a themed version out as well and its very simliar to enomthers. Detail and very good looking eye candy and both run smooth. As of now I ll stick with cm6 till enmother gets updated reasons are:
Power widget:custom, choose what you want in the bar
power button: reboot, recovery bootloader (really liking this)
dial pad (prefered the custom) did push galax s dial pad on for now
cyanogen mod settings simple to use and like location
battery life is pretty solid as well
Of the two I prefer Cyanogen. But I am running InnovationOS and think it is by far the best.
snlu178 said:
Of the two I prefer Cyanogen. But I am running InnovationOS and think it is by far the best.
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hmm...
i may run cyanogen for a bit.
what does InnovationOS do that makes it better?
flash one for a week then switch to the other and see which you prefer. Both roms have so many little things that make each unique it would be much easier for you just try both and see for yourself which is better.
Blueman101 said:
flash one for a week then switch to the other and see which you prefer. Both roms have so many little things that make each unique it would be much easier for you just try both and see for yourself which is better.
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alright. where do i get these roms? (cyano comes on rom manager)
thanks
zachthemaster said:
alright. where do i get these roms? (cyano comes on rom manager)
thanks
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Here is the Enom one, he has said that he will update with a newer Alpha version tonight, best for you to just go with the 2.11.3 stable rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
just place it on the root of your sd card and (if your using rom manager) select install from sd card(be sure to both backup and wipe) the wipe wont touch your sdcard, only the phones internal memory
Also there is a themed version and a non themed version, ill let you pick
-cheers
I like InnovationOS because it has a sense like feel without all the glut. But it doesn't have all the tweaks of the others.
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Enom fort the old style apps2sd
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Enom fort the old style apps2sd
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Yeah, thats another thing with Cyanogen i missed/mow have again was/is apps to sd. There is no way for me to activate apps2sd besides just the normal default way froyo lets you on TheOfficial. Cyanogen lets you go to town with apps2sd in 6.0.0.
I'm not sure how i am liking cyanogenmod 6.0.0 vs TheOfficial. There are a couple things i like and dislike, and a couple things that are the same.
I like the render effects in cm (it has cool renders, not just solid colors)
i DISLIKE ADWLauncher replacing the stock launcher. i have never liked this.
the trackball alerts are about the same.
I dont know. ill post more things as i see them, but i dont know where to be in terms of ROMs. InnovationOS just doesnt sound like my cup of tea
Well, it's just a personal preference... both are amazing ROMs... IMHO, enomther's is rock-stable... cyanogenmod 6 is more bleeding-edge (but super-stable none-the-less)... & you can remove adw launcher quite easily if you wish...
zachthemaster said:
Yeah, thats another thing with Cyanogen i missed/mow have again was/is apps to sd. There is no way for me to activate apps2sd besides just the normal default way froyo lets you on TheOfficial. Cyanogen lets you go to town with apps2sd in 6.0.0.
I'm not sure how i am liking cyanogenmod 6.0.0 vs TheOfficial. There are a couple things i like and dislike, and a couple things that are the same.
I like the render effects in cm (it has cool renders, not just solid colors)
i DISLIKE ADWLauncher replacing the stock launcher. i have never liked this.
the trackball alerts are about the same.
I dont know. ill post more things as i see them, but i dont know where to be in terms of ROMs. InnovationOS just doesnt sound like my cup of tea
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Not exactly sure what any of that meant, but in case you said: You can't use the ext partition apps2sd with Enom, that is incorrect. You certainly can, it's in his custom Spare Parts tool, like all of his other customization items.
I think he meant that for CM. I'm using Micromod now which is enom based.
The only thing that's holding me back from CM is that apps2ext.
Hey, this is my first time posting, I've been browsing a bit since I got my galaxy. I cant really find an answer to what I'm looking for.
I'm not a big fan of samsung's UI on my galaxy, I'd much prefer the Android 2.1 stock that comes on the nexus one... no fancy stuff. Just basic... How would I go abouts doing this? I'm totally new to this, I know I'd have to root my device, after that I'm lost.
Thanks A lot!
Some guys have created a stock Android ROM for the SGS, but it's not fully functional, no camera and no video.
Android can run on many devices (even iPhone and Palm) but the problem are the drivers. If there's no driver, you'll find yourself without camera, wifi, GPS or whatever, and possibly the battery use will be greater.
Yep, there was a vanilla rom but nothing worked, pointless for everyday use.
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So what would be your recommendation for a rom? seeing as they're are so many out there.
there are a couple of ROMS in the dev section without the touchwiz launcher
example:
[ROM]Rombie v2a -*I9000XXJPH*- Themed|no TouchWiz|Pre-Rooted|
personally i have never used one so i can't give any feedback on the matter. if you dont want to mess around too much you could always use a launcher like ADWlauncher or LauncherPro, these basically reskin the home screens to a more likeable layout (by many), there is even a home replacement called launcher2 i think, which looks very basic.
I'm looking for something similar. I'm already rooted, unlocked and running ADW, but I just can't cope with Samsung's stock phone and sms apps. They're truly bloody awful.
all i can say is: wait for http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ ...
it's great and it can not take very long any more (i hope)
Silversurfmonkey said:
I'm looking for something similar. I'm already rooted, unlocked and running ADW, but I just can't cope with Samsung's stock phone and sms apps. They're truly bloody awful.
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You can say that again the sms app is a complete fail!!!
I don't mind the dialer so much. but the rest of touchwiz and the widgets is a waste of space..
I have had about enough of CyanogenMod. Been using it since 5, and every single version has had significant usability problems. Currently in 7.0.3 photos are bad, GPS is non-functional, it forgets settings like keyboard, and when I first answer the phone no one can hear me.
Terrible. There has got to be something better. If not I'm going to stock.
You can use MIUI ROM
Enomther's
It's not gingerbread but is by far the most stable and the fastest.
There's many ROM on this forum, you are free to use which ever make you happy.
CM7 has been great for me since the first nightly.
Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
Quantumstate said:
I have had about enough of CyanogenMod. Been using it since 5, and every single version has had significant usability problems. Currently in 7.0.3 photos are bad, GPS is non-functional, it forgets settings like keyboard, and when I first answer the phone no one can hear me.
Terrible. There has got to be something better. If not I'm going to stock.
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I'd never be able to go stock after i used CM for the first time . It might have some flaws but its the best there is & has no alternative .
Quantumstate said:
Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
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Yes, MIUIMOD from Rod
i had use MIUI Stock 4 months ago, then i use CM 7 nightly build, and now, i comeback MIUI with MIUIMOD ROM, after a week use, with some tutorial, i think its best for my phone at the moment, hehe... some user dont want use MIUI, because it like as iOS but i dont care, it gives me comfort & i use it...
With MIUIMOD, you will have more than free Internal memory and RAM memory...
anyway, i saw dont more difference between the CM7 and MIUI, you can choice
With CM all I had to do was wipe and use Amon Ra to flash zip.
There are no instructions with RoDrIgUeZsTyLe except "MIUIMOD D2SD HowTo", which only seems to do with partitioning. Do partitions actually need to be changed, and if so why?
How to apply the ROM and why aren't there instructions?
Also he says, " (Please Read the D2SD HowTo)", but there's no link and a search doesn't turn it up.
MIUI is pretty good
Which one? I've found four so far, including one that seems to have Chinese buttons.
Quantumstate said:
With CM all I had to do was wipe and use Amon Ra to flash zip.
There are no instructions with RoDrIgUeZsTyLe except "MIUIMOD D2SD HowTo", which only seems to do with partitioning. Do partitions actually need to be changed, and if so why?
How to apply the ROM and why aren't there instructions?
Also he says, " (Please Read the D2SD HowTo)", but there's no link and a search doesn't turn it up.
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Goto Rod's thread i will help you, if i can :d
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You should definitely go for QND MIUI
Used it from the beginning and I'm loving it. It's stock MIUI with XJ's multilanguage pack, so it's just like MIUI is supposed to be. No junk or ugly themes added
I also get the delayed connection when I answer calls but besides that CM7 is the best there is.Some debate MIUI is better but its a matter of the individuals likes/dislikes. Also the themes and control of customization on CM7 IMO by far surpasses any other rom out there currently so you should prolly stick w/ CM. Hopefully the next stable release fixes the bugs your speaking of
Mouse I've been patient with CM since version 5, and I am fed up.
The good news is I am really digging this MIUIMod. Seems much more modern, smooth, and usable than CM. Have just now gotten things set up so it remains to be seen how well things work, but the camera is sure better and that's a biggie for me.
Takes forever to boot (no big deal) and I am missing my Galaxy wallpaper, but I am:
Digging it.
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Which one? I've found four so far, including one that seems to have Chinese buttons.
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flash away then and see what one you like the best thats what its all about...i would just use stock miui from either here or miui-dev if you are that finicky about roms
I just have so much to set up that it takes about a day. This is one thing that was so irritating abut CM; in order to correct atrocious usability bugs I'd have to completely reinstall each month and start all over again. I started with Rodriguez today and that's fine so far except for the lack of Galaxy wallpaper. Still have alot to learn about MIUI. Lucky it's Saturday...
You could always to CM6.x if you like CM's features.
Quantumstate said:
Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
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So much has been fixed and improved in the latest cyan nightlies over 7.0.3 that you prob should try that out first.
Have you given any of eVilD's sense roms? NXSense and NXSense HD have been working pretty well for me, although nobody can beat MIUI battery life and cuatomuzability
Haven't checked out the Sense ROMs.
MIUI is very nice so far. Desktops rotate like a cube and other nice effects. It's like a 21st century iPhone except without the restrictions, not a 20th century Windows-like CM phone. And I've found the Galaxy wallpaper in the market. My desktops are games|multimedia|default|appts/calendar|utilities. There is no launcher place where all the apps are; all apps are on desktops, but you can put apps inside a folder app which is very handy. Those apps I use are on desktops, those I rarely use are in Apps, Utilities, Multimedia, and Unused folders. No more screenshot app needed; it's Menu:VolDown now.
GPS still has problems, and still some things I haven't figured out. I need to put contacts into folders in the contacts app. With CM I'd put them into one contact and change the label to Custom with their name in it. That is only simulating folders though. Wish there were a better way or an app that could handle folders. Edit: Hey, Contacts has something called Groups, which just may be the ticket! Experimenting.
Does anyone know why DroidWall is no longer in the Market? That is my most valued app to keep out G**gle's prying eyes.
Hello!
About a year ago I lost my Milestone, just found it within the inside pockets of my jacket :doh:
I want to give it to my girlfriend as her X10 Mini pro is getting hardware defects and very limited in playing games and such. I noticed FroyoMod 2.6.0 running quite choppy on it, probably (partially) because of the nice UI and extra options. My question is: which ROM would be the best to have a smooth running phone, advanced layout features not required. Either 2.1, 2.2 or 2.3 would be good. Preferably a stable ROM, of course.
Thanks in advance, Bullehr.
Hi!
I am currentlz using HO!NO! Mod 7.1.5. But I replaced LauncherPro with GO Launcher Ex. I also used Supercharger Script, which frees some RAM
My MM is super snappy now, no lags, no freezes.
Just give it a try
I was close enough to buy a new phone, but now I'm satisfied again ^^
Cheers,
Regaddi
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Hi!
Since your girl friend doesn't play games usually, I suggest CM7.1.5. It's stable and smooth running. And Ho! No! 7.2.0 is another good choice. And I also suggest you to remove the 3d gallery and install Quickpic. If you can edit the SystemUI.apk and change the black status bar and scroll bar background into transparent will be better~
Have a nice day~
Have you considered MIUI?
I'd been using CM7 form over six month on my Milestone (A853), but last month I decided to give a try to MIUI and was gladly surprised.
What kept me from changing before was the iPhone-like GUI, which I don't care about, however your gf may like it. On my case just switched back to GO Launcher.
MIUI Camera works just right. Also MIUI SMS and Phone applications are too similar to the ones I'd been using so I didn't even bother to replace them.
Overall my phone doesn't reboots itself anymore, and is fast and responsive.
Unless you gf is fluent in chinese, goto en.miui.com and select one of the variants. If english is your language then you may go US, UK or Scotland. I like US better cause it respects my Alarm+ (shows in status bar), and also has a 4-way reboot option I use.
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I'd been using CM7 form over six month on my Milestone (A853), but last month I decided to give a try to MIUI and was gladly surprised.
What kept me from changing before was the iPhone-like GUI, which I don't care about, however your gf may like it. On my case just switched back to GO Launcher.
MIUI Camera works just right. Also MIUI SMS and Phone applications are too similar to the ones I'd been using so I didn't even bother to replace them.
Overall my phone doesn't reboots itself anymore, and is fast and responsive.
Unless you gf is fluent in chinese, goto en.miui.com and select one of the variants. If english is your language then you may go US, UK or Scotland. I like US better cause it respects my Alarm+ (shows in status bar), and also has a 4-way reboot option I use.
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When I tried MIUI I also was surprised by its beautiness and smoothness, but it took like 1 day, and my MM began to reboot randomly and became stuck and inresponsive like hell...
I don't know exactly what happened there, but when I switched "back" to CM7 I was definately more satisfied with my phone again. I guess it might have something to do with all the MIUI-Apps (and there are a lot).
Just my experience.
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CM 7
CM 7 should be goo and stable for her to use it.
MIUI is quite awesome in that it's responsive, comes with good stock apps and is fairly well customizable, although I've replaced the stock launcher with Launcher7.
Regaddi said:
Hi!
I am currentlz using HO!NO! Mod 7.1.5. But I replaced LauncherPro with GO Launcher Ex. I also used Supercharger Script, which frees some RAM
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U mean that RAM freeing supercharger script is not included in HO!NO! by default? Why?
Doesn't seem like that...
When I started Supercharger it showed different values.
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Wow thanks for all the suggestions! gonna be flashing around for a bit now
Happy flashing ;-)
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Based on your condition, I think CM7.1.5 and CM6.3.6 is suitable for you.