In order to update to the newest Cognition, how would I go about that? Would all of my apps be deleted?
snapplefish said:
In order to update to the newest Cognition, how would I go about that? Would all of my apps be deleted?
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To add to this question. I have a base of John but my update failed. I was using the ryanza lagfix but removed it. I can not use Odin to flash stock because I do not have a windows PC. Is it safe to flash cognition using clockwork?
Base of jh7
Why would you ask this question here? This is thread specific. In his thread he took away data wipe but it is now back because of issues. So what you can do is either load the newest cognition over the top or if you prefer wipe and install the zip file. Just look around the dev forum and find your answer as it is easier in the long run to know where to find the info in case you ever mess your phone up.
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I can't get it to install.
I have version 2.1, with superbeast that I used for the rooter.
I followed all the wiki instructions for the cognition, but it is not working.
The first time I tried using the rom manager to load cognition, it worked, but it would never go past install multi-csc.
Now I am trying it again and it won't work at all, it just stays on the screen when I try and reboot it.
Not sure what to do, should I name the cognition folder to update, and just do the volume and power button update way?
have you tried using odin?
Not to be "that guy" but this doesn't really belong in the Development section. There's a whole other section devoted to Q&A, and you should have this moved there.
Why the heck is this not in the thread devoted to Cognition??
NOFSBIGE said:
have you tried using odin?
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I think it says to use the flash method since I am not currently 2.2
codyrapol said:
I think it says to use the flash method since I am not currently 2.2
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it would be best to run titanium backup on your current setup so that you can get your apps back, but install cog from the odin.
Hey guys I have a rooted captivate running froyo. I want to try the Cognition v2.3b3 rom with lagfix, but I no idea where to start. Do I need to flash back to stock or can I just load the rom? Also I was wondering about overclocking, can I do that with this rom? Any help is appreciated. I am new to android, came from a unlocked iPhone this is way better! Thanks guys
tygoerlitz said:
Hey guys I have a rooted captivate running froyo. I want to try the Cognition v2.3b3 rom with lagfix, but I no idea where to start. Do I need to flash back to stock or can I just load the rom? Also I was wondering about overclocking, can I do that with this rom? Any help is appreciated. I am new to android, came from a unlocked iPhone this is way better! Thanks guys
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you should be able to flash over but it is considered good practice to start from stock, also i think you need ji6 froyo before jj4 froyo which cog2.3b* are based on, so the accepted proper procedure is masterclear and flash jf6 from the one click installer get android id with android id changer, flash ji6, also a one click installer, and then flash cognition. all with odin. you can clockwork recovery flash cognition but it is another proceedure to root ji6. after cognition is installed reinstall android id changer and load the id from the stock rom.
i usually flash over without lashing to stock ect unless the flash over has issues. and overclocking is handled in the kernel you need to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828052
with odin, no .pit file needed just drop file in the pda slot and flash in download mode. overclocking is enabled by default so you need set cpu to manage it.
there is a link to an app to manage under volting, my settings are -50mv low and -75 high. it also handles the scheduler, i use cfq. anticipatory seems to work eqaully well. some suggest deadline and it may be better real world but i dont see it in benchmarks. and real world is too subject to placebo effect and coincidence.
this kernel also has a universal lag fix handled in clockworkmod recovery which replaces the stock recovery. best setting for that is no rfs jfs overkill but in the advanced settings disable bind to dbdata. it's fast! 17.299 mflops in linpack, and it's the first time that i have had a lagfix improve a linack score(at least it appears to)
Here is the steps that got me from ji6 2.2 to cog.
First if you don't already get titanium back up and back up all of your apps you don't want to loose and copy the file to your computer and remove external SD card if you have one.
Then i used the 2.1 version of odin one click to go back to 2.1 after that do a master clear then root your phone and down load rom manager. Using rom manager flash the clockwork recovory mod.
Next download cognition 2.3b3 then go back to rom manager and select install rom from sd card and find your cog rom you just down loaded and it will do the rest
Once cog is on your phone you can put you titanium backup file back on your phone and redown load titanium backup and restore all of your apps.
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@ Dani897 I do have ji6 version of froyo. So I do need to flash back to stock 2.1 or can I flash cog with the version of froyo that I am running now? Sorry for the confusion here. I would like to keep running froyo if I can. Thanks guys
tygoerlitz said:
@ Dani897 I do have ji6 version of froyo. So I do need to flash back to stock 2.1 or can I flash cog with the version of froyo that I am running now? Sorry for the confusion here. I would like to keep running froyo if I can. Thanks guys
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Check out the Cog wiki.
http://cognition.theidiotshideout.net/mw/index.php?title=Main_Page#Installation
If you have clockwork installed, you can install over any rom. I would clear data to be on the safe side, though.
kegobeer said:
If you have clockwork installed, you can install over any rom. I would clear data to be on the safe side, though.
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no you cant. it will only work if he has 2e recovery kernel. if it was the ji6 leak then it is running 3e recovery and no matter how hard you try, it wont boot into clockwork.
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use the ODIN version of cognition. doesnt matter what rom you are on...
Ok so I am trying to flash cog via oden. I downloaded the file and am looking at the how to on the wiki but, in the wiki it says that all the files will be in the download Odin.exe PIT.pit PDA.tar PHONE.tar CSC.tar. The only files that I am seeing are the pda file the odin.exe and the pit file none of the other ones. Is this normal?
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Ok so I am trying to flash cog via oden. I downloaded the file and am looking at the how to on the wiki but, in the wiki it says that all the files will be in the download Odin.exe PIT.pit PDA.tar PHONE.tar CSC.tar. The only files that I am seeing are the pda file the odin.exe and the pit file none of the other ones. Is this normal?
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Yes. That's what is supposed to be there. That's all you need for that particular rom
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Cool thanks a lot for your help. Just to make sure before I do this. I did a back up using tibu, Im going to pull the sim, open odin, and flash. Is it really that easy or am I missing something? Thanks guys I really appreciate it.
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Cool thanks a lot for your help. Just to make sure before I do this. I did a back up using tibu, Im going to pull the sim, open odin, and flash. Is it really that easy or am I missing something? Thanks guys I really appreciate it.
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Its really that easy
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Cool gonna do it now. Will post results
Ok just flashed and that went well, but it wont let me open any apps. For example when I try to open up tibu it tells me I have to force close. I also dont have 3g
i dont know if there that is a common issue, but im sure you will need to reflash. you may want to flash to stock.
it's a multi step procedure and annoying but it is usually safer , i guess i got lucky.
i dont know for sure if you need to flash ji6 before cog 2.3b, design gears may have fixed that, i didn't read the details of why it was needed.
i would;
(optional)master clear, remove sim and sdcard. you will loose everything including titanium backups and posibly nand backups. master clear is done with the phone booted normally.
flash jf6
flash cognition 2.2 by meathod of your choice (so you have root and clockwork recovery)
flash cog 2.3b3 in clockwork mod recovery.
I don't know iflosing every thing is worth it for me, I really do want to flash this rom and try it out, but right now seems risky, I flashed back to froyo that I was running before. I thibk I'm going to do some more research and see what I can find. Thanks for all your help guys
i have read some good things about Axura RC2.2 CE. so im very interested in flashing it. im currently running cog 2.1.7 is there any reason i couldnt just use rom manager and flash it right now. or should i flash back to odin stock and then re root grab rom manger again and then flash Axura RC2.2 CE? and in the instructions it said to backup with titan just data and apps but not system data, why is that?
messxxxedge said:
i have read some good things about Axura RC2.2 CE. so im very interested in flashing it. im currently running cog 2.1.7 is there any reason i couldnt just use rom manager and flash it right now. or should i flash back to odin stock and then re root grab rom manger again and then flash Axura RC2.2 CE? and in the instructions it said to backup with titan just data and apps but not system data, why is that?
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The reason why people recommend ODIN first before flashing new ROMs is because lagfixes and other stuff can cause problems for certain users. Usually you can flash directly from another ROM no problem, but like I said, ODIN and most of your problems will disappear.
As for not backing up the system data, you can backup your system data. Just don't restore it as this can cause a lot of problems. There are framework differences, etc. between ROMs especially 2.1 and 2.2 ROMs. Restoring system data will cause FC city in most ROMs.
i just tried flashing and my phone got stuck in some mode where it kept saying stuff about partitioning and my sd wasnt found.. so lame
i backed up my stuff on titan and saved it to my computer ill try again after i root. hmm weird now its not running the zip file..
Did you Odin 1 Click back to stock first?
Never a good idea to flash over the top of another custom ROM as the guy above me stated already.
You always want that "clean slate" to start with to avoid issues like this. Then you can safely restore your applications and application data - but people have problems restoring system data - so I never do.
Odin 1-click back to stock and try again - it should work fine.
i just ended up odin one clicking it to froyo. which im loving right now so ill keep it like this for a bit. when i had reset my phone to stock i tried axura again but it wasnt running the zip for some reason..after im donewith 2.2 ill go to stock and try axura one more time.
messxxxedge said:
i just ended up odin one clicking it to froyo. which im loving right now so ill keep it like this for a bit. when i had reset my phone to stock i tried axura again but it wasnt running the zip for some reason..after im donewith 2.2 ill go to stock and try axura one more time.
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Hmmm..
Easy method to ensure success:
Odin 1-Click back to OTA JH7 2.1 ECLAIR Stock (not 2.2 Froyo)
Root using CLShortfuse's Root application.
Then update to Auxura as normal and it should work fine.
avgjoegeek said:
Hmmm..
Easy method to ensure success:
Odin 1-Click back to OTA JH7 2.1 ECLAIR Stock (not 2.2 Froyo)
Root using CLShortfuse's Root application.
Then update to Auxura as normal and it should work fine.
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Do you have a link to the Odin 1 click to JH7 ?
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... not to pimp my own post but I'll pimp it anyways. Has links and helpful tips for common questions for Captivate users.
#3 Question - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858765
Ok a few days ago I flashed my first Rom (Cognition) all went well and before I did it I backed up my oringinal stock 2.1 rom with rom manager, My question is can I restore/recover that 2.1 original rom through rom manager then flash phoenix 2.5 rom or will I have to use odin to restore then Flash my new Rom. Thanks any help appreciated
No
You need to do this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
rob1216 said:
Ok a few days ago I flashed my first Rom (Cognition) all went well and before I did it I backed up my oringinal stock 2.1 rom with rom manager, My question is can I restore/recover that 2.1 original rom through rom manager then flash phoenix 2.5 rom or will I have to use odin to restore then Flash my new Rom. Thanks any help appreciated
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I Have A HTC Hero But I'm Pretty Sure It's The Same....
I'm Not Sure I'm Understanding Your Question, But I Think You Want To Get Back To Your Stock ROM & Flash A New ROM Correct?
If That's It?
You Can, But You Don't Have To Convert Back In Order To Flash Another Rom.... Just "Wipe"
System/Cache/Dalvik Cache,
& Install The New Rom!
You Can Always Restore Back To Your Stock Backup!!
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PMGRANDS said:
I Have A HTC Hero But I'm Pretty Sure It's The Same....
I'm Not Sure I'm Understanding Your Question, But I Think You Want To Get Back To Your Stock ROM & Flash A New ROM Correct?
If That's It?
You Can, But You Don't Have To Convert Back In Order To Flash Another Rom.... Just "Wipe"
System/Cache/Dalvik Cache,
& Install The New Rom!
You Can Always Restore Back To Your Stock Backup!!
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No you can not revert bacj to your stock 2.1 from 2.2 using clockwork with a captivate
Can you explain how to wipe system /cache/dalvix cache or post link i googled it but found nothing with step by step instructions. I would like to try this before odin. Also why does it let you create a back up of 2.1 rom if you cant revert back there from 2.2 then whats the point of backing up 2.1 in the first place. Just thought you could do that instead of odin after reading a post which I was going to post the link to here but wont let me cause Im too new.
rob1216 said:
Can you explain how to wipe system /cache/dalvix cache or post link i googled it but found nothing with step by step instructions. I would like to try this before odin. thanks
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Do you have rom manager?
Yes Free version
rob1216 said:
Yes Free version
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I do not recommend flashing phoenix over cognition without a flash to stock, but if you want to try, you can.
Cognition uses voodoo. First thing you should do is disable it.
Find voodoo file in your internal sd. Create a folder in side voodoo folder named disable-lagfix. Reboot phone.
Ok its disabled, but If Odin is the best way to go maybe I should try it but just been reading about higher risk of bricking phone using odin. Just really want to try different rom because cognition it smooth as butter but battery life is killing me compared to stock and yes I tried the charging battery to 100 then unplugging shutting down charging to 100, reboot, shut down then to 100 again no help. Anyways if I use Odin does voodoo have to be disabled also.
Pull your battery. Obviously power off first. Under battery is a build number, mine is 1008. Tell me yours
mine is 1010
Odin may be difficult to use. You may want to research your build more. Anything over 1008 is where odin is an issue
What is your base
Settings, about phone, bottom
Damn i didnt want to hear that,Says baseband version I897UCJI6 is that it.
Yes that is it.
Being on build 1010 I an not comfortable with telling you how to proceed. You need advise from someone who flashes with that build. It behaves differently with odin. I am sorry. Search build 1010
Ok thanks for your help, Ill look around
If you've never flashed with Odin one-click before, try this instead to avoid any risk of bricking (very likely on some build 1008-1010 phones that don't run JF6 stock):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
Has anyone with a 1010 tried this with success
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If you've never flashed with Odin one-click before, try this instead to avoid any risk of bricking (very likely on some build 1008-1010 phones that don't run JF6 stock):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
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rob1216 said:
Has anyone with a 1010 tried this with success
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Me And several people I suggested it to. But now I have a batch 1009 Captivate (traded in mine because of random shutdown issue).
saved my cappy once
I guess I'm confused...is odin really necessary at all for him? If he disables voodoo lagfix, and clears dalvik cache, he should be able to flash over the top...correct?
I flashed cognition 3.02 direct to andromeda 2.0 via cwr and did not clear dalvik or disable lagfix (since cog and andromeda both enable voodoo)...no problems for me.
Maybe it's different/more complicated flashing over the top to the ROM he wants to go to though...
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
I just updated my phone using keis to the offical 2.2 froyo release. And like a dumb*** when i went to install Cognition 4.2.2 i hit wipe internal system data. Is there anyway to get this data back?? Thanks for any help! All i want to do is install cogntion 4.2.2 now...but i cant do it unless i do it manually which i have no idea how to do that, just clockwork is all i ever used.
GO TO STOCK FIRST unless the rom doesn't require that (check instructions)
root your phone, I usually use the one-click program u can find in the original sticky in this forum, DL rom manager. Flash CWRecovery, DL rom you want. Reboot into recovery install from sdcard, choose right file, bam you're done.
FYI people usually don't like when u post questions in developement area.
ferls1985 said:
I just updated my phone using keis to the offical 2.2 froyo release. And like a dumb*** when i went to install Cognition 4.2.2 i hit wipe internal system data. Is there anyway to get this data back?? Thanks for any help! All i want to do is install cogntion 4.2.2 now...but i cant do it unless i do it manually which i have no idea how to do that, just clockwork is all i ever used.
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Try using odin go back to eclair and flash cognition again and you post in the wrong threads section
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