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I really need some HELP w/ updating Google Ion

Ok, so I have searched and searched... Watched Youtube, etc and I can't get definitive answers or instructions on installing roms, radios, etc. on my Google Ion Dev phone. I bought the phone to be different from the Mytouch crowd, but that seems to have been a bad move on my part so far.
I would like someone to either link me to or walk me through installing a rom for my phone. I would really like the Donut 1.6 version with all the bells and whistles like tethering and MT. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks

Do you even look a little bit at the stickies??????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523

As much as people claim to search and search and read and read you would think they would read somewhere that posts are supposed to be put in appropriate forums.

follow the links in my signature. root, flash, flash, flash, wipe, wipe, wipe, report, report, report.

thelastgoodbrother said:
Ok, so I have searched and searched... Watched Youtube, etc and I can't get definitive answers or instructions on installing roms, radios, etc. on my Google Ion Dev phone. I bought the phone to be different from the Mytouch crowd, but that seems to have been a bad move on my part so far.
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The Ion is not a Dream device, but based on the Sapphire. Please post in the appropriate forum.
Sapphire

This is why i dont care for xda people.. they hate on things so much actually help a brother out.. ****.

MLIGN said:
This is why i dont care for xda people.. they hate on things so much actually help a brother out.. ****.
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this is why XDA has strict rules about posting on their site, if you don't like it ,then don't be a part of the community. Go back to the experts over at the tmobile forums, you can posts any thing any time, anywhere. You guys should feel at home there. .

I prefer to go the "this is where you should post but I'll help you still" route. At least if I can help. Simply telling someone they posted in the wrong place when they're new is no help at all. Yes there are a lot of posts in the wrong section but you don't have to be so anal about it. I didn't know the Ion was a Sapphire device, I didn't know what it was really and my only experience with the Ion is via Soulife's ROM which is stupidly fast. In conclusion, I am great.

Anal you say, ,,
In the Q&A section alone 2522 + threads have been opened . Could you imagine what the development section would've looked like without the Q&A section. .
I think the mods are doing a great job, and members that flame rule breakers, don't stop, burn them to a crisp. .

I don't mean they do things too harshly but that they could at least offer help while telling someone they're posting in the wrong place. I'd hate to be a moderator because it's a thankless job that isn't easy. Please don't misunderstand what I meant

Dyonas said:
I prefer to go the "this is where you should post but I'll help you still" route. At least if I can help. Simply telling someone they posted in the wrong place when they're new is no help at all. Yes there are a lot of posts in the wrong section but you don't have to be so anal about it. I didn't know the Ion was a Sapphire device, I didn't know what it was really and my only experience with the Ion is via Soulife's ROM which is stupidly fast. In conclusion, I am great.
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In the device listings in the top page of the XDA forums there are images of each device next to its associated forums; just looking at the front page would tell you that the Ion is not a Dream device, but a Sapphire device.
Also, the reason there are different forums for the two devices is because their hardware and software are different. The Sapphire uses a different SPL and method for flashing ROMs. Asking questions in the Dream forum about the Sapphire board is like going into a hardware store and asking for help with your VCR—keeping the posts in the relevant location is beneficial to everyone involved.

dan0zone said:
this is why XDA has strict rules about posting on their site, if you don't like it ,then don't be a part of the community. Go back to the experts over at the tmobile forums, you can posts any thing any time, anywhere. You guys should feel at home there. .
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ok you think about it that way where is your thread with over 50,000 views what have you done? yeah you dont help you just one of those guys that goes around just waiting to ruin someones day.. haha weak..

Originally Posted by MLIGN <<<<<<
The Rules Of This Thread <<<<<<
1.Stay on topic. <<<<<<
2.Keep it a friendly thread.
3.Please do some reseach before you post.
4.Enjoy the ROM!
Guess thats thats only for your thread!!!

this is so stupid

dan0zone said:
Originally Posted by MLIGN <<<<<<
The Rules Of This Thread <<<<<<
1.Stay on topic. <<<<<<
2.Keep it a friendly thread.
3.Please do some reseach before you post.
4.Enjoy the ROM!
Guess thats thats only for your thread!!!
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lmao good you read my thread... but the reason why i put that was i saw drizzy and cy's thread alot of things on there were b/s so i put my thread up and i wanted it too look decent lol but yeah good job!... you just are still a "MLIG" haha

Thank you all for the help/defense. I didnt realize that I posted in the wrong section. I was up all night/morning trying to figure this all out on my own. When I say I tried searching, I did. When you search Google Ion, you get 10,000+ hits with the mention of "Google" or 10,000+ with any word with "ion" ala "application, etc. If I post something, that means I am really at a loss. You can see that I have been a member for a lil while, but only have a few posts.
I was finally able to do it via trial and error. I didn't make a image of the current Ion rom so that went out the window. The Google Ion aka Magic (developer's phone) is already rooted (I figured this out on my own). Power + Home will access that area just like the other Magics that are rooted. I put the rom on a seperate sd card without partitions etc. Just a straight drag and drop and rename to "update." When everything finished I then reinstalled my original sd card that had all my apps on it. So far the phone runs fine, it still has that typical android jerkiness at times, but I think that its just the memory constraints of the phone. I loaded the Donut version that has the expansion pack for tethering, etc.
Maybe my post can be moved so that it might help someone else that just needed a simple question about this phone answered.
PS:Since I just did a simple drag and drop will I run into problems later? What's the purpose of partitioning?

[FAQ] Answers for Noobs who like to ask questions. READ THIS BEFORE ASKING ANYTHING.

Ok. I don't know if this will get stickied or not, I hope it will. Mods can feel free to change the title of the post if need be. Here's a stab at answering a few questions which are asked repeatedly.
First and foremost:
CLICK THE SEARCH BUTTON BEFORE ASKING ANYTHING WHATSOEVER.​
Secondly:
IF YOU HAVE ROOTED YOUR PHONE, MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE...THEN SAVE A COPY OF IT TO YOUR DESKTOP​
Don't even bother asking for help if you've screwed up a ROM install and don't have a backup. The only advice you'll get is to use the RUU (which can be found here).
Having gotten that out of the way here are some of the typical questions and answers.
#1. What's the fastest/best/most interesting/etc ROM out there.
Answer: Try them all and see. If you read the first page of each ROM thread the bugs/fixes are posted. If you see a thread without the bugs/fixes, READ THE THREAD FOR THAT ROM AND ASK YOUR QUESTIONS IN IT. Do not create a new thread to ask questions like: Does everything work in <INSERT ROMNAME HERE> rom?
#2. How do I...?
Answer: The answer to your question is probably http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=CDMA%20Hero%20Guides. If it's not there, it's almost definitely under search. Stop asking. Stop creating new threads. It just makes people mad and clutters up the forums.
#3. I think I bricked/broke/messed up my phone
Answer: Did you flash a GSM radio on top of a CDMA phone (or vice versa)? Then probably not. Pull your battery, restore from the NANDROID BACKUP I'm certain you made when you first rooted your phone and try again. Almost all bad ROM flashes can be fixed by wiping and reinstalling your ROM. Check your battery level. Never flash a ROM if the level is below 30%.
#4. I'm getting an error after using the RUU (110, etc)
Answer: Check the wiki guides above. There is a thread which tells you how to recover. If you are too lazy to read through the fixes, here is the thread.
#5. The Sprint 2.x upgrade is coming soon! I have pr00f!
Answer: No, you don't. Stop posting new threads to draw attention to yourself. The ROM upgrade will be out when it's out and not before Sprint is ready to release. Any release date you might have heard is tentative at best and flat out wrong in most cases. Stop creating threads about it, we don't care where you got your information.
#6. Audio doesn't work in my custom 2.x ROM
Answer: Try here. There are two fixes in this thread for it.
#7. I just flashed <INSERT ROMNAME HERE> ROM and everything's all screwed up.
Answer: Wipe everything and start over. In your nandroid recovery, select 'Wipe Data/Factory Reset'. When that's done wipe 'Dalvik-Cache'. Then when that's done (if you have installed a2sd (apps2sd)) wipe SD:EXT. Then reflash the ROM. 9 times out of 10 this will fix it. The 10th time, ask in the ROM thread, do NOT create a new thread for your issue.
#8. My battery life sucks. Or: What's the battery life on this ROM?
Answer:
Search. There are a lot of threads about battery life already. If your answer's not there, ask in the ROM thread (after searching that thread of course).
Android Terms:
a2sd/apps2sd: The process of moving user installed applications from internal storage to the SD card
Rosie: Typically used as a term describing certain graphical characteristics of the Android operating system, primarily the 'bottom bar' of the phone. Example: Stock Rosie is curved, espresso Rosie is not, with rounded edges.
Also:
"For the record, with 2.1 we CAN NOT just alter the rosie launcher or the taskbar or the HTC lockbar. The files are all tied up together. This means that, if you have installed someones taskbar mods, and then later you decide you want a different rosie, when you flash the new rosie it WILL undo some of the taskbar mods....UNLESS you have a themer do a custom just for you and provide them a link to the taskbar that you are using. I cannot stress the part about providing them a link enough. That is just common courtesy. There are plenty of folks out here willing to help you. Many will even help you learn to do it yourself. Just ask nice and be patient. This is a hobby for us, too, and we often have our own projects that we are working on." - tejasrichard
There is a way to do both, however:
"And a little correction about changing only the rosie or taskbar, you can if you use metamorph [/QUOTE]
You can find metamorph in the Android Market." -danaff37
JIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine Also see the following URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_compilation.
LWP: Live Wallpapers. Animated wallpapers that run on your home screen. Until recently, not available in the HTC Sense UI.
MNS: Mobile Network Sharing. The act of using your cell phone as a USB or WIFI connected internet router. Example: Connecting your desktop/latop to the internet via your cell phone's mobile internet.
AOSP: Android Open Source Project http://source.android.com/
PRI: Profile of your phone. Used by your carrier to set up your network/internet settings.
PRL: Preferred Roaming List. List of cell towers close to your present location. This allows the phone to roam more easily since it has a built-in database of towers, rather than having to search for one.
This is getting too long, so I'm going to summarize:
No one likes reading the same questions over and over. If you can't be bothered to at least search for the answers, do us all a favor and don't say anything.
Stop saying things like 'I didn't feel like reading 300 pages of <INSERT ROMNAME HERE>'s thread. How do I?'...USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION TO SEARCH THAT THREAD.
If you don't read the guides, and instruction posts, then screw up your phone, don't whine about it. It's your own fault. It's not the fault of the ROM dev, or the ROM, or anything else. It's YOUR FAULT. Accept responsibility.
Did someone at the Sprint Store piss you off by not accepting your water damaged phone for replacement? Are you mad because they gave you a refurb instead of a brand new phone? We don't care. This is a DEVELOPMENT FORUM. It's for development of roms/themes/etc and discussions of roms/themes/etc. It's not a place to whine that you're being treated badly by Sprint. Post about it on Sprint's forums.
I think that covers the basics. If you're new here, do us all a favor and read this post, follow what's inside it. If you're not new and are a chronic whiner, read this post, follow what's inside it. Just stop cluttering the forums and making it impossible to find any information in it at all.

EPIC!!!!
Touche'
Ok, so I am fairly new and broke 4 out of the 7 rules... But I am behaving now, and actually appreciate the basis of this Thread. That said. I didn't know what I didn't know and having this Thread at least gives new folks clear and pointed fair warning.
Great POST!!!!

lol
It wasn't aimed at you specifically, or at anyone really. It's just a general set of guidelines designed to curb repetitive posting.

word
10 char

Thank you! Honestly it's sad you have to make a thread like this, but it was definitely needed. Wayyy too many noobs come here asking questions that have been answered many many times over.

great read! But you know the only ones who actually read this are those of us that actually follow the guidelines and it will simply pass by the 'others' without a second glance lol

yeah, maybe edit the title to official 2.1 sprint download... haha

nighteyes_wolf said:
great read! But you know the only ones who actually read this are those of us that actually follow the guidelines and it will simply pass by the 'others' without a second glance lol
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Perhaps. But if those of us who follow the guidelines refuse to ANSWER the noobs who don't read this, except for maybe a link to this thread, there will be fewer BS threads to have to deal with.

smw6180 said:
Perhaps. But if those of us who follow the guidelines refuse to ANSWER the noobs who don't read this, except for maybe a link to this thread, there will be fewer BS threads to have to deal with.
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+10000000 Don't respond to threads just paste links to this thread good idea.

J/K. Good idea.

Just bookmarked it to make linking easier!

How about this noob question? where can I find a dummies guide to terms? A really good one stop shop. Stuff noobs like me don't know like rosie, apps2..., you name it. If its out there I Want to know what it is. P.S. I checked both wiki s and did a search for the word "terms" in titles.
T.I.A
Yamus

Re: Answers for Noobs who like to ask questions. READ THIS BEFORE ASKING ANYTHING.
There is already a thread like that actually... lol
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yamus08 said:
How about this noob question? where can I find a dummies guide to terms? A really good one stop shop. Stuff noobs like me don't know like rosie, apps2..., you name it. If its out there I Want to know what it is. P.S. I checked both wiki s and did a search for the word "terms" in titles.
T.I.A
Yamus
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What terms specifically? I'll add them to the OP.
Edit: Added the two you listed.

Nothing specifically, at this very moment but, I come across new ones all the time when reading different posts. If it's cool, I'll just keep posting them here as I come to them and, if you think they should be in the op you can add them there or, if not, maybe just reply back down in the thread.
BTW. I know that I can google most terms and find them, and I have no problem whatsoever doing that, it's just nice when someone coming here to learn can expedite the process a lil with the help of some of the seniors.

well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?

bigems said:
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
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I'll answer to keep this thread on page 1...yes
MNS = mobile network sharing
JIT = Just-in-time compiler WIKI

tstack77 said:
I'll answer to keep this thread on page 1...yes
MNS = mobile network sharing
JIT = Just-in-time compiler WIKI
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Me too...
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
REALLY????? 3 P I C F A I LLMGTFY.COM, Try That One....

Noob Tube
I am a noob, i like finding and searching for things, its awesome, thats ok though, i wont be a noob for long,...................

MagnusRagnarok said:
Me too...
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
REALLY????? 3 P I C F A I LLMGTFY.COM, Try That One....
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Not helpful. The point here is not to create a thread full of *****ing, but to create a SINGLE thread so that we don't have 15000000 posts of the same thing. So if you can't help, stfu.
I'll add the other terms listed to the front page.

[Q] HTC HERO PLEASE HELP with obtaining 2.2 software

My sprint hero is running 2.1, freezes all the time and my girl friends is even worse, I need help to update to 2.2 and some good instructions on where to download and how to install
THANKS SOO MUCH!!!
Scott

Root your phone and try one of the many 2.1 or the 2.2 froyo AOSP ROM (no sense). If you root though I bet you find that 2.1 runs a LOT better. There are two guides to rooting. Search here and you shall find. Sorry, I dont have the links handy

smolck said:
Root your phone and try one of the many 2.1 or the 2.2 froyo AOSP ROM (no sense). If you root though I bet you find that 2.1 runs a LOT better. There are two guides to rooting. Search here and you shall find. Sorry, I dont have the links handy
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Here ya go a fine start http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
May I suggest this ROM when your fully rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795 <--Kicks butt and you get 2.2 features!!

I guess I'll be the jerk today
Welcome to XDA! Let me also help you more by telling you that using "Search" here in these forums, or even just reading the bolded titles of threads, will get you the answers to a lot of your questions. Some posts are "stickied" at the top of each forum for a reason...it means they are important and have lots of useful information in them. Had you done just a little bit of reading and searching, you would have easily found the "good instructions" you have requested without having to create a whole new thread. Also know that questions like this should go in the "Q&A" forum.
The link in the post above is good for rooting. And here's Android 2.2, with instructions in the FIRST post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
Good luck.

chromiumleaf said:
I guess I'll be the jerk today
Welcome to XDA! Let me also help you more by telling you that using "Search" here in these forums, or even just reading the bolded titles of threads, will get you the answers to a lot of your questions. Some posts are "stickied" at the top of each forum for a reason...it means they are important and have lots of useful information in them. Had you done just a little bit of reading and searching, you would have easily found the "good instructions" you have requested without having to create a whole new thread. Also know that questions like this should go in the "Q&A" forum.
The link in the post above is good for rooting. And here's Android 2.2, with instructions in the FIRST post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
Good luck.
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Your absolutely right. You were a jerk. Do you own these forums? If you don't want to help a newbie out don't read his her post. Too many children trolling these forums. People need to grow up. These forums are about helping one another.
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rejectedkid said:
Your absolutely right. You were a jerk. Do you own these forums? If you don't want to help a newbie out don't read his her post. Too many children trolling these forums. People need to grow up. These forums are about helping one another.
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Yes, point taken, I could and should have been a bit gentler in that previous post. I was merely pointing out that any newbies already have all the help they need in this forum -- that's what Search is for, and why the titles of most threads are so specific and detailed. The answers are out there. So I do apologize for the perceived harshness that was unnecessary on my part. You also didn't see that I did indeed help this user over several PMs after I posted that earlier, but that still doesn't justify my lack of gentleness.
Awful metaphor, but it fits pretty well: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish, feed him for a lifetime." Yes I know that was terrible

Even worse: " Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a day, set the man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life."
I think your first post was gentle enough.
As for the topic at hand. Try just rooting and removing the bloatware and using a decent task manager or auto killer. I think the jump to aosp should be somethinng for later.

I feel the newbie love in the air

rejectedkid said:
Your absolutely right. You were a jerk. Do you own these forums? If you don't want to help a newbie out don't read his her post. Too many children trolling these forums. People need to grow up. These forums are about helping one another.
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How the hell was he a jerk???
These forums are for helping each other, but people still need to search and read, or it makes it harder to help the people who already did so!

HTC Hero root with unrevoked?

First of all, I am SORRY if these questions have been asked before, but I can't find them.
I have 1successfully rooted my EVO with unrevoked. Now my brother wants me to do his Sprint HTC Hero
Here are my questions.
I see that there is an download, but his radio is 2.42.02.10.29 and this is not listed. Is this an issue?
Is there a downside to having to use this unrevoked forever?
All that he wants is to do is get a bigger SD card so that he can move his apps off his phone and put more on his SD card. Is this possible? Even without rooting?
Thanks

This should be in q&a not in development.
Mods please place in correct thread. Also if you go to unrevoked's website I'm sure you will find more info there to address your concerns regarding the radio. Also try google searching it should have more than enough info to help you out as well. I've never used that method of rooting but I'm sure you will receive better responses if you post your questions in the proper thread.
#Root/Hack-Mod_Always*

I have tried google and I have gone to the Unrevoked website before I came here. I have not found the answers to my question, that is why I came here. If you had directed me to the proper thread (as you suggested) maybe my problem would be solved.
You are a senor member and I am new here. Remember we come here for help, not condescending responses.

Of course he can get a new sd card, but moving apps to sd requires root... As for the root, the method your talking about only works with the .29 radio, so to get s off you would need to downgrade the radio to .27 using RUU and then root, if you want.
Edit: you can then upgrade the radio after you s off unrevoke it. Theres a flashable .29.
Edit 2: there are much simpler root methods, I created a thread full of links, click my name and check it out.
Edit 3: damn laie, you gettin cold bro...

Puzzled how so??? Never used the mod so I can't give advice. So I suggested the next best thing. But I know your on xda as much if not more than I so I knew you would lend a hand. But until you did he might have found the answer to his question on the website or threw google. And he did post his question in the development thread not q&a I just asked the mods to move it to the right thread so he would receive better help. Don't think that's mean at all. By the way how did you like my name suggestion???
#Root/Hack-Mod_Always*

Well mostly I was just messing with you. I have done the same thing, told a mod to move the thread (by using the report feature) and then left a slightly more mean response lol. The only difference is the mod pmed me. He told me to just answer the question, report the thread, etc. No big deal, really I was just messing. Are you thickening your skin for the idiocy in the 3D forum? I am

il Duce said:
Well mostly I was just messing with you. I have done the same thing, told a mod to move the thread (by using the report feature) and then left a slightly more mean response lol. The only difference is the mod pmed me. He told me to just answer the question, report the thread, etc. No big deal, really I was just messing. Are you thickening your skin for the idiocy in the 3D forum? I am
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Man yes lol. I had read your post on them so I had hopped over and read a little and all I can think is wow that's gonna be mind numbing lol. A ya never replied on the name???
#Root/Hack-Mod_Always*

Since this thread has gotten WAY off topic, I would like to THANK the people that have tried to help me and answer my questions, both publicly, (Il duce), and privately.
You guys rock. Thanks for the kind words and letting me know that not everyone on here is an *******.
I think people get a little too high and mighty on this site and forget it is a FORUM that people come to for HELP.
Recommendations such as being referred to google, and telling me what I am doing incorrectly without giving advice, like mean, rude people in general, well simply SUCK.
Thanks again to the good guys. We rule!

Dude if you post in the wrong forum some one here will tell you. You posted in the development froum. Your question clearly had nothing to do with development. Thats why its a q&a thread to post a question and to receive an answer. And if your modifying your phone google is your best friend. This is good advice. Had you had posted your question in q&a there would have been nothing to post about what you did wrong. And as far as being referred to google everything that duce or even myself would have told you would be on google. Its been many,many members who have had the same problems and most if not all have been solved. In my opinion in most cases google search is much quicker than reading threw thousands of post. In short glad you got it worked out.
#Root/Hack-Mod_Always*

^^^^^
truth he speaks...

listen to him you must...
sorry i couldn't resist lol

Bierce22 said:
listen to him you must...
sorry i couldn't resist lol
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...... the force is strong with this one

This is the forum where I posted:
HTC Hero - CDMA Hero CDMA - Q&A HTC- Hero root with unrevoked?
Just for my own edification...
Please tell me where this refers to a DEVELOPMENT forum (whatever that means) and why the Q&A section on the title of this forum is not a place where I can ask a question?
The first thing I did was apologized if I was doing this wrong.
I tried to start all over again and I still ended up at this forum.
How would I know it was not the right one?

what on earth are you talking about

Bierce22 said:
listen to him you must...
sorry i couldn't resist lol
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Dude, I came her for help...what on earth are YOU talking about..how does this nonsense about listening and you resisting help anyone at all? Why are you commenting on my thread and not helping?
Please..if you are going to say something..say something that helps me and anyone else with the same problem.

mike, you originally posted in develpment. It was moved to Q&A leaving no traces in development. so when you looked after the fact you were already moved....make sense?

Roms

Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?

This thread is not going to end well.

I don't really care, they sticky everything so why not what roms are for our phones and what ones are ported. Also what order the came out in. Im done with the captivate this weekend anyway, its only a suggestion.

First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
Sent from my SGH-I897

justin860 said:
Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?
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Look here, thanks and credit to sammobile.com----
http://www.sammobile.com/threads/36-Samsung-Letter-Code. This is good with i897, but I'm still not sure about the i9000 rom lettering system, i.e JVT = ??
You may have to register and login to see this, not sure though. Hope it helps anyway.

conantroutman said:
I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
Therefore, from now on, if you do not follow the rules outlined below, you will be infracted. Break them again and you may find yourself unable to post anything at all on any forum!!
If you cannot read and abide by the simple rules in this sticky then I dont know how you're going to manage to hack your device without running into trouble.​​
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA​
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right from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184814​

^ +1
Agree 100 %
And I answered his question the way I could to try to help a little.
And I knew this thread would eventually get moved.
PM'd conantroutman to request the move just in case no one else has.

nh5 said:
First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
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you mean this SHOULDN'T be in the development section.