Related
Ok. I don't know if this will get stickied or not, I hope it will. Mods can feel free to change the title of the post if need be. Here's a stab at answering a few questions which are asked repeatedly.
First and foremost:
CLICK THE SEARCH BUTTON BEFORE ASKING ANYTHING WHATSOEVER.
Secondly:
IF YOU HAVE ROOTED YOUR PHONE, MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE...THEN SAVE A COPY OF IT TO YOUR DESKTOP
Don't even bother asking for help if you've screwed up a ROM install and don't have a backup. The only advice you'll get is to use the RUU (which can be found here).
Having gotten that out of the way here are some of the typical questions and answers.
#1. What's the fastest/best/most interesting/etc ROM out there.
Answer: Try them all and see. If you read the first page of each ROM thread the bugs/fixes are posted. If you see a thread without the bugs/fixes, READ THE THREAD FOR THAT ROM AND ASK YOUR QUESTIONS IN IT. Do not create a new thread to ask questions like: Does everything work in <INSERT ROMNAME HERE> rom?
#2. How do I...?
Answer: The answer to your question is probably http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=CDMA%20Hero%20Guides. If it's not there, it's almost definitely under search. Stop asking. Stop creating new threads. It just makes people mad and clutters up the forums.
#3. I think I bricked/broke/messed up my phone
Answer: Did you flash a GSM radio on top of a CDMA phone (or vice versa)? Then probably not. Pull your battery, restore from the NANDROID BACKUP I'm certain you made when you first rooted your phone and try again. Almost all bad ROM flashes can be fixed by wiping and reinstalling your ROM. Check your battery level. Never flash a ROM if the level is below 30%.
#4. I'm getting an error after using the RUU (110, etc)
Answer: Check the wiki guides above. There is a thread which tells you how to recover. If you are too lazy to read through the fixes, here is the thread.
#5. The Sprint 2.x upgrade is coming soon! I have pr00f!
Answer: No, you don't. Stop posting new threads to draw attention to yourself. The ROM upgrade will be out when it's out and not before Sprint is ready to release. Any release date you might have heard is tentative at best and flat out wrong in most cases. Stop creating threads about it, we don't care where you got your information.
#6. Audio doesn't work in my custom 2.x ROM
Answer: Try here. There are two fixes in this thread for it.
#7. I just flashed <INSERT ROMNAME HERE> ROM and everything's all screwed up.
Answer: Wipe everything and start over. In your nandroid recovery, select 'Wipe Data/Factory Reset'. When that's done wipe 'Dalvik-Cache'. Then when that's done (if you have installed a2sd (apps2sd)) wipe SD:EXT. Then reflash the ROM. 9 times out of 10 this will fix it. The 10th time, ask in the ROM thread, do NOT create a new thread for your issue.
#8. My battery life sucks. Or: What's the battery life on this ROM?
Answer:
Search. There are a lot of threads about battery life already. If your answer's not there, ask in the ROM thread (after searching that thread of course).
Android Terms:
a2sd/apps2sd: The process of moving user installed applications from internal storage to the SD card
Rosie: Typically used as a term describing certain graphical characteristics of the Android operating system, primarily the 'bottom bar' of the phone. Example: Stock Rosie is curved, espresso Rosie is not, with rounded edges.
Also:
"For the record, with 2.1 we CAN NOT just alter the rosie launcher or the taskbar or the HTC lockbar. The files are all tied up together. This means that, if you have installed someones taskbar mods, and then later you decide you want a different rosie, when you flash the new rosie it WILL undo some of the taskbar mods....UNLESS you have a themer do a custom just for you and provide them a link to the taskbar that you are using. I cannot stress the part about providing them a link enough. That is just common courtesy. There are plenty of folks out here willing to help you. Many will even help you learn to do it yourself. Just ask nice and be patient. This is a hobby for us, too, and we often have our own projects that we are working on." - tejasrichard
There is a way to do both, however:
"And a little correction about changing only the rosie or taskbar, you can if you use metamorph [/QUOTE]
You can find metamorph in the Android Market." -danaff37
JIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine Also see the following URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_compilation.
LWP: Live Wallpapers. Animated wallpapers that run on your home screen. Until recently, not available in the HTC Sense UI.
MNS: Mobile Network Sharing. The act of using your cell phone as a USB or WIFI connected internet router. Example: Connecting your desktop/latop to the internet via your cell phone's mobile internet.
AOSP: Android Open Source Project http://source.android.com/
PRI: Profile of your phone. Used by your carrier to set up your network/internet settings.
PRL: Preferred Roaming List. List of cell towers close to your present location. This allows the phone to roam more easily since it has a built-in database of towers, rather than having to search for one.
This is getting too long, so I'm going to summarize:
No one likes reading the same questions over and over. If you can't be bothered to at least search for the answers, do us all a favor and don't say anything.
Stop saying things like 'I didn't feel like reading 300 pages of <INSERT ROMNAME HERE>'s thread. How do I?'...USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION TO SEARCH THAT THREAD.
If you don't read the guides, and instruction posts, then screw up your phone, don't whine about it. It's your own fault. It's not the fault of the ROM dev, or the ROM, or anything else. It's YOUR FAULT. Accept responsibility.
Did someone at the Sprint Store piss you off by not accepting your water damaged phone for replacement? Are you mad because they gave you a refurb instead of a brand new phone? We don't care. This is a DEVELOPMENT FORUM. It's for development of roms/themes/etc and discussions of roms/themes/etc. It's not a place to whine that you're being treated badly by Sprint. Post about it on Sprint's forums.
I think that covers the basics. If you're new here, do us all a favor and read this post, follow what's inside it. If you're not new and are a chronic whiner, read this post, follow what's inside it. Just stop cluttering the forums and making it impossible to find any information in it at all.
EPIC!!!!
Touche'
Ok, so I am fairly new and broke 4 out of the 7 rules... But I am behaving now, and actually appreciate the basis of this Thread. That said. I didn't know what I didn't know and having this Thread at least gives new folks clear and pointed fair warning.
Great POST!!!!
lol
It wasn't aimed at you specifically, or at anyone really. It's just a general set of guidelines designed to curb repetitive posting.
word
10 char
Thank you! Honestly it's sad you have to make a thread like this, but it was definitely needed. Wayyy too many noobs come here asking questions that have been answered many many times over.
great read! But you know the only ones who actually read this are those of us that actually follow the guidelines and it will simply pass by the 'others' without a second glance lol
yeah, maybe edit the title to official 2.1 sprint download... haha
nighteyes_wolf said:
great read! But you know the only ones who actually read this are those of us that actually follow the guidelines and it will simply pass by the 'others' without a second glance lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Perhaps. But if those of us who follow the guidelines refuse to ANSWER the noobs who don't read this, except for maybe a link to this thread, there will be fewer BS threads to have to deal with.
smw6180 said:
Perhaps. But if those of us who follow the guidelines refuse to ANSWER the noobs who don't read this, except for maybe a link to this thread, there will be fewer BS threads to have to deal with.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+10000000 Don't respond to threads just paste links to this thread good idea.
J/K. Good idea.
Just bookmarked it to make linking easier!
How about this noob question? where can I find a dummies guide to terms? A really good one stop shop. Stuff noobs like me don't know like rosie, apps2..., you name it. If its out there I Want to know what it is. P.S. I checked both wiki s and did a search for the word "terms" in titles.
T.I.A
Yamus
Re: Answers for Noobs who like to ask questions. READ THIS BEFORE ASKING ANYTHING.
There is already a thread like that actually... lol
Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
yamus08 said:
How about this noob question? where can I find a dummies guide to terms? A really good one stop shop. Stuff noobs like me don't know like rosie, apps2..., you name it. If its out there I Want to know what it is. P.S. I checked both wiki s and did a search for the word "terms" in titles.
T.I.A
Yamus
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What terms specifically? I'll add them to the OP.
Edit: Added the two you listed.
Nothing specifically, at this very moment but, I come across new ones all the time when reading different posts. If it's cool, I'll just keep posting them here as I come to them and, if you think they should be in the op you can add them there or, if not, maybe just reply back down in the thread.
BTW. I know that I can google most terms and find them, and I have no problem whatsoever doing that, it's just nice when someone coming here to learn can expedite the process a lil with the help of some of the seniors.
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
bigems said:
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll answer to keep this thread on page 1...yes
MNS = mobile network sharing
JIT = Just-in-time compiler WIKI
tstack77 said:
I'll answer to keep this thread on page 1...yes
MNS = mobile network sharing
JIT = Just-in-time compiler WIKI
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Me too...
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
REALLY????? 3 P I C F A I LLMGTFY.COM, Try That One....
Noob Tube
I am a noob, i like finding and searching for things, its awesome, thats ok though, i wont be a noob for long,...................
MagnusRagnarok said:
Me too...
well i'm a noob, i had no idea what the hell lwp was... it means live wallpaper right?
REALLY????? 3 P I C F A I LLMGTFY.COM, Try That One....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not helpful. The point here is not to create a thread full of *****ing, but to create a SINGLE thread so that we don't have 15000000 posts of the same thing. So if you can't help, stfu.
I'll add the other terms listed to the front page.
Well yea nugh said .
Yup. It would appear that there are either a) no dev's in this section of the forum, or b) everyone is lazy and just wants to wait for someone else to do everything for them. lmao.
hey there glad to see one sharing my opinion , at least there should be a mod moving all the really useless stuff from here to the other section .. oh wait a minute thatbe 99% of the threads in here
with u buddy gunna request a Dev so much work is to be done.milestone/droid is an awesome peice of hardware infact it beats most of the new phones arm chip cmon where the Devs @ ?
To be fair, it is quite silly that Milestone & Droid have a joint General section. A lot of questions have answers specific to one or the other. So all my Milestone specific qs go here since it is the only Milestone-only subforum.
Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
Unimaginative said:
Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well if no one tries how will we make progress?there must be a way to bypass bootloader we must try.if devs never tried then none of us would ever have root so stop with the dumb remarks
Unimaginative said:
Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the point of this thread is not to request dev to do soemthing , witch obviously they are busy doing/trying otherwise this section wouldnt exist ...
the point of this thread was merely an attempt at keeping this section clean of 'froyo is coming in july ' or how do I rooot on 2.1 type of questions you get the drift ...
DAGr8 said:
the point of this thread is not to request dev to do soemthing , witch obviously they are busy doing/trying otherwise this section wouldnt exist ...
the point of this thread was merely an attempt at keeping this section clean of 'froyo is coming in july ' or how do I rooot on 2.1 type of questions you get the drift ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In which case there needs to be a distinct Motorola Milestone General forum. I don't want to ask that question in "Droid and Milestone General" and get responses from Droid users. Until then, this is the go-to place for Milestone-only questions.
cmstlist said:
In which case there needs to be a distinct Motorola Milestone General forum. I don't want to ask that question in "Droid and Milestone General" and get responses from Droid users. Until then, this is the go-to place for Milestone-only questions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well yea exactly my point , not to start the argument with you about it , obviously this will become something else then a Dev section and it will 'soon-become' the not go-to for the Dev because it will be a mess .
I know for my part they are forums I go daily for news , and eventho this was one of them this current setion will soon become one to avoid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djmwYSVxpQA
I read that the HTC Hero & Tmobile G1 all have the same processor. So why can we not overclock it like this?
I didnt think it could go that high at all
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
first off..youve been here for a few months now so you should know and post this in the right section(Q&A)!!!! seeing as you actually checked the box to show this was a question just shows that you didnt read the rules or even care about the STICKY telling to post in the right area.
Second..why not just be happy with 768? i dont think its possible atleast as we speak unless someone comes up with a kernel that allows it. I mean some hero's bootloop at 768 so what would make you think its possible at 825?
READ THIS FULLY
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
t12icky0 said:
first off..youve been here for a few months now so you should know and post this in the right section(Q&A)!!!! seeing as you actually checked the box to show this was a question just shows that you didnt read the rules or even care about the STICKY telling to post in the right area.
Second..why not just be happy with 768? i dont think its possible atleast as we speak unless someone comes up with a kernel that allows it. I mean some hero's bootloop at 768 so what would make you think its possible at 825?
READ THIS FULLY
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
t12icky0 said:
first off..youve been here for a few months now so you should know and post this in the right section(Q&A)!!!! seeing as you actually checked the box to show this was a question just shows that you didnt read the rules or even care about the STICKY telling to post in the right area.
Second..why not just be happy with 768? i dont think its possible atleast as we speak unless someone comes up with a kernel that allows it. I mean some hero's bootloop at 768 so what would make you think its possible at 825?
READ THIS FULLY
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honestly it could go in either section. It's a question about development.
tennockey said:
Honestly it could go in either section. It's a question about development.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wow..it just shows how much you guys actually read the rules also. this is a quote directly from it.
"So remember… before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can’t answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?"
plus questions about development go in either the rom thread, General, or Q&A.
Preach it, brother!
t12icky0 said:
first off..youve been here for a few months now so you should know and post this in the right section(Q&A)!!!! seeing as you actually checked the box to show this was a question just shows that you didnt read the rules or even care about the STICKY telling to post in the right area.
Second..why not just be happy with 768? i dont think its possible atleast as we speak unless someone comes up with a kernel that allows it. I mean some hero's bootloop at 768 so what would make you think its possible at 825?
READ THIS FULLY
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I second this. I HATE having to scroll through pages of useless threads in the wrong forum sections. Also, the majority of the posts in these incorrectly located threads are questions that could be solved with a simple thread search or *gasp* actually reading through the ROM/Kernel/MOD thread itself.
t12icky0 said:
first off..youve been here for a few months now so you should know and post this in the right section(Q&A)!!!! seeing as you actually checked the box to show this was a question just shows that you didnt read the rules or even care about the STICKY telling to post in the right area.
Second..why not just be happy with 768? i dont think its possible atleast as we speak unless someone comes up with a kernel that allows it. I mean some hero's bootloop at 768 so what would make you think its possible at 825?
READ THIS FULLY
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually think it would be interesting to seed how blazing fast our Hero's can go and besides, not everyones phone boot loops at 768. I'm pretty sure some can go at 825.
and not to come off as an a$$ but I don't see the title of "moderator" underneath your screen name so you really have no say in were people can and cannot post. I understand I am no moderator as well but I don't think bbplaya4life should be chastised by you. Those are just my .02 and I'm not trying to make enemies but I'm just saying leave that job for the moderators
No hard feelings?
Congratulations, you can read the forum rules. Can you tell us, are there any rules about responding to posts like an arrogant douche bag. If there are than than sir you are as guilty as he is. If in your opinion it is in the wrong spot than state your opinion and move on, who made you a mod? Lord knows in two days this thread will be buried 6 pages into this section and you won't have to see it again. Otherwise it will be moved or deleted, but seriously I don't get what is wrong with people, if you don't have anything to contribute or you can't answer his question than leave it alone. And in the meantime, I'm not so sure it is possible to overclock that high on our devices. I'm sure if it could be than it probably would have been by this point, as amazing as the devs are that we have had working on the hero currently and in the past.
kryptkeeper2006 said:
Congratulations, you can read the forum rules. Can you tell us, are there any rules about responding to posts like an arrogant douche bag. If there are than than sir you are as guilty as he is. If in your opinion it is in the wrong spot than state your opinion and move on, who made you a mod? Lord knows in two days this thread will be buried 6 pages into this section and you won't have to see it again. Otherwise it will be moved or deleted, but seriously I don't get what is wrong with people, if you don't have anything to contribute or you can't answer his question than leave it alone. And in the meantime, I'm not so sure it is possible to overclock that high on our devices. I'm sure if it could be than it probably would have been by this point, as amazing as the devs are that we have had working on the hero currently and in the past.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you.
Please keep this on topic, and stop the flaming please, that goes to everyone
theimpaler747 said:
Please keep this on topic, and stop the flaming please, that goes to everyone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry just had to stick up for the guy! lol
anyways Im gonna try and contact the guy who made that vid and get some more information about how his phone handled it. Hell, it may be the reason why his screen was meesed up lol
Hero_Guy said:
sorry just had to stick up for the guy! lol
anyways Im gonna try and contact the guy who made that vid and get some more information about how his phone handled it. Hell, it may be the reason why his screen was meesed up lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand, just want to keep order
theimpaler747 said:
Please keep this on topic, and stop the flaming please, that goes to everyone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do apologize as well, just tired of seeing people getting harassed over silly mistakes. Was just trying to help a guy out.
Hero_Guy said:
I actually think it would be interesting to seed how blazing fast our Hero's can go and besides, not everyones phone boot loops at 768. I'm pretty sure some can go at 825.
and not to come off as an a$$ but I don't see the title of "moderator" underneath your screen name so you really have no say in were people can and cannot post. I understand I am no moderator as well but I don't think bbplaya4life should be chastised by you. Those are just my .02 and I'm not trying to make enemies but I'm just saying leave that job for the moderators
No hard feelings?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you would have bothered actually reading that thread i posted you would see that in fact i dont need to be a mod. THE MODS have said quit posting questions in the development section unless you are developing something and use freakin common sense. Sorry Impaler but like i said before recently this development forum is getting flooded with threads that should be located somewhere else. letting one person get away with it has allowed everyone to just randomly post where they like and its getting outta control.
As far as flaming in the thread yes i am to breaking rules. I admit im being hypocritical when i say read the rules. Think about this tho, there is a huge thread above this section that says post threads in the right section.
Sorry again to everyone who's feathers i have ruffled but Please try and post in the right sections.
Sorry for flaming!
If anyone really wants, I'll put out a Decad3nce Uncapped Kernel that allows for 825MHz. Be warned though that I take no responsibility for any damages that occur.
I've heard from someone that Zen said that our Hero's CAN be clocked well over into 900 mhz, (or it has been done) but it's pointless since our phones wouldn't really be able to handle that speed. Plus, the only thing (in my opinion) it would be good for is a pretty Quadrant Score.
bbplaya4life said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djmwYSVxpQA
I read that the HTC Hero & Tmobile G1 all have the same processor. So why can we not overclock it like this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unstable even if you wanted it. And for clarfication:
The HTC Hero(GSM) and G1 share the same cpu(MSM7200A) while we have the MSM7600(CDMA version, same as Eris) which is >= rev 2 and is much improved.
Here's more info on our chipset: http://www.datasheetpro.com/268121_download_MSM7600_datasheet.html
Regards.
mrinehart93 said:
If anyone really wants, I'll put out a Decad3nce Uncapped Kernel that allows for 825MHz. Be warned though that I take no responsibility for any damages that occur.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That wouldn't be stable at all though...
Sorry guys for posting in the wrong spot :/
I should have paid more attention.
Does anyone have a perfectly stock backup will all blot ware like it's out the box?
Yeah there are a few here. Search and you will see them!
There was a thread here where someone posted a stock ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838151
Hope this helps,
AoN
its the one click odin jf6 if you want to go all the way back to the first software that came with the captivate. search for it
another post posted in the perfect section ...
DAGr8 said:
another post posted in the perfect section ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this.
why do people not even pay attention to what section is what?
jess086 said:
Does anyone have a perfectly stock backup will all blot ware like it's out the box?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is this developement related or should this be in the QA section? I do think it belongs in the QA section. Next time post in the correct section or post will get reported as spam lol
1. Search dude. This is one of the most obvious questions I've ever seen asked here.
2. Read around the forums before posting, that goes hand-in-hand with searching...
3. Post in the right friggin' section. You have a [Q] in your tread title which means it's a question, which is fine, but its not a "Captivate Android Development" question! It belongs in the Question and Answer section. (which is amazingly obvious, it's not like they hide it from you around here)
4. The answer to your question is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989 which you didn't even need to search to find, its on the first page of the Development section which I know you looked in because you posted here.
*sigh*
The kid has two posts total. He is obviously new to the forums. So stop just repeating what everyone says. He doesn't need four people to tell him its a question and should be in the Q&A section. Don't act like its outrageous for a beginner to do something like ask a question in the development section, LIKE OMFG JESUS!! Sick of the clutter from all the questions yea, but also sick of reading all the bash posts towards people that are fresh to the forums. You were once a noob too!
silverslotcar said:
The kid has two posts total. He is obviously new to the forums. So stop just repeating what everyone says. He doesn't need four people to tell him its a question and should be in the Q&A section. Don't act like its outrageous for a beginner to do something like ask a question in the development section, LIKE OMFG JESUS!! Sick of the clutter from all the questions yea, but also sick of reading all the bash posts towards people that are fresh to the forums. You were once a noob too!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 we ought to be a little patient to newbies
+2.....We were all newbs once and some of us still learning everyday. Just do some research...this is a great place to learn and get the most of your device.
Sent from my cog bacon cappy...
diablo009 said:
+1 we ought to be a little patient to newbies
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, we shouldn't. Threads like these impair actual threads that get pushed to page two.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
silverslotcar said:
The kid has two posts total. He is obviously new to the forums. So stop just repeating what everyone says. He doesn't need four people to tell him its a question and should be in the Q&A section. Don't act like its outrageous for a beginner to do something like ask a question in the development section, LIKE OMFG JESUS!! Sick of the clutter from all the questions yea, but also sick of reading all the bash posts towards people that are fresh to the forums. You were once a noob too!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have to agree with this 100%. When I first started I didn't even realize I could search the forums or threads. Instead of someone pointing out to me there was search and explain how it works I was unbelievably verbally beaten to a bloody pulp about what an idiot I was. Even today I was taken to task for a post that cites a measure of rom's performance instead of the accepted evaluations we see day in and day out-fantastic, great, best, unbelievably fast. To me the true evaluation of a rom has to be functionality and some measure. If you do not think Quadrant scores, net speed tests and Lin pack scores measure performance tell me what does. I understand e mail works, videos play, I can make phone calls etc. That tells me how the rom functions. How do you measure a rom's performance other than to say fantastic, great, good etc.? Tell me.
All the "this is in the wrong forum, dude" posts are not about development either, so you're all off topic.
Spend less time bashing, and more time helping the new forum members.
The internet doesn't need more assholes, just more manners and good examples.
AoN
So just because someone is new to the forums we give them some leeway because they can't READ? Seriously guys it doesn't matter how new you are, if you have a question, put it in the Question and Answers thread. Almost every website has a search function, they aren't hard to find, so that excuse of "I didn't know" is pretty bogus.
DemonWav said:
So just because someone is new to the forums we give them some leeway because they can't READ? Seriously guys it doesn't matter how new you are, if you have a question, put it in the Question and Answers thread. Almost every website has a search function, they aren't hard to find, so that excuse of "I didn't know" is pretty bogus.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've learned my way around on my own for the most part, but damn yall still intimidate me...
odin restore man...read up next time
DemonWav said:
So just because someone is new to the forums we give them some leeway because they can't READ? Seriously guys it doesn't matter how new you are, if you have a question, put it in the Question and Answers thread. Almost every website has a search function, they aren't hard to find, so that excuse of "I didn't know" is pretty bogus.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this.
just because they are new we are supposed to let them fill the wrong forums up with clutter that they could have easily found by a simple browse around or search?
no.
thats not how it should be handled.
gimme gimme gimme! just doesnt sit well with me.
How hard is it for a moderator to do their job and move the thread to Q & A or to delete it?? If they did you guys would have no argument that it "pushes" the other threads to page two. I still don't get it......Seems to me like ppl are making a big deal out of nothing.
silverslotcar said:
How hard is it for a moderator to do their job and move the thread to Q & A or to delete it?? If they did you guys would have no argument that it "pushes" the other threads to page two. I still don't get it......Seems to me like ppl are making a big deal out of nothing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
when you are reading these forums every day trying to see whats going on in the dev world, all you see on the front page are [Q] threads, posted in the wrong section. then we have to filter out all the BS and try to find useful info, when it should be right there, easily accessible, which is the point of breaking up the sections of the forums....
it's clutter
and the mods do a good job of moving them, but the n00bs come in here and post the BS so fast, its impossible to keep up.
Unless I'm mistaken, there now is only one Dev out there that has stuck by Captivate code. As someone who places a high value on the Audience voice chip on the AT&T devices, I am very interested to see if more devs will look at this newly released source and make something of it, either new or port their existing top-notch work. I've tried, and liked, many of the I9000-based ROMs, but I keep coming back to the Cappy-based ones due to the voice quality.
So Devs... any interest? I'm sure that I'm not alone from a user perspective.
I would like to see a kernal based off the released source that also has the voodoo sound added to it. I am sure there is a lot that can be done and it will take some time.
I was thinking of flashing to something new, but with the source available, I think it's time to be patient. Can't wait for a semi-up to date ROM with full captivate compatibility!
this belongs in Q&A section
I believe whole heartedly that the ROMS the DEVs are putting out are fantastic and do everything I want and need in a ROM.
OTHER then the audiance chip support. It would be cool to have in the roms as an ability but not necessarily required.
See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....
bames said:
this belongs in Q&A section
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
Devs still read the Q&A - how about reading the forum rules and abiding.... this is un-needed clutter in the Dev section
dalewest said:
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Regardless, if you feel the need to post about this topic in this section, there is already a thread about it. Post your question in there. No need for another thread.
jgc121 said:
See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not trying to start a flamewar or anything... while I only joined last November, and my post count is indeed low, please don't assume that I'm here asking for candy. I comb these forums many times daily, and only post when I can't find the answers I'm looking for.
As for irritating the devs by asking for stuff... I've noticed that for the most part, they actually like the feedback, and want to know what the users like. I see no problem with providing input. Like I said, I posted here because the Devs come here, and not so much to the Q&A section.
Lastly (and maybe this should have been clearer in my OP), only one dev seems to be working on Captivate kernels, with the rest working on I9000 (since source has been around a long while). What with new hardware around the corner, dev interest for the Cappy might be waning. I thought it a fair question.
dalewest said:
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No..does not make sense. If you read the forum rules it will be clear why it doesn't make sense.
Not trying to start a flame war either was just trying to redirect you and prevent further endless flaming if you continued to post in the wrong section.
Last thing I wanted was to tick people off
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.
dalewest said:
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So just coz it says "Hey devs" means it should go to the Dev section?
I thought the development section was actually for development... Apparently I was wrong
uuugh..
bames said:
this belongs in Q&A section
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree completely!! Dev(s) do read other forums
I have question about the source code that was just released. How do I implement it into my build enviroment?
I mean ok I extract the file. Then read the readme file. It says to overwrite the modules I want to build. Is there a general rule to what should and should not be over written. I have compiled the generic code but nothing device specific.
OMG! You DARE to post here?
dalewest said:
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL. No apologies needed. This thread that you started is essentially the same as opcow's, except that he posted the news before you did. All that followed in his thread, however, was very similar to the responses in your thread.
Similar, but different - different because the hall monitors didn't flame anyone in that thread! Why not?? Because, methinks, for the most part, those in the other thread were more "senior" than thee, Mr. Dalewest. Get it? There's a pecking order here that must not be violated.
Strange, but I didn't notice any ROM devs complaining in your thread or Opcow's. I did, however, see some silliniess in the other thread, such as "Charlie Sheen throwing some pixie dust" into the new ROMs, but no cries of outrage over that. Then come some self-appointed spokespersons for the devs in your thread saying the devs this, the devs that, "Ooh, the devs are going to get upset," etc. [Sigh]
The source of KB1 dropping has been mentioned since yesterday or before in various threads here, and I didn't see any devs getting upset about it. The KB1 source dropping is certainly related to development. IMO it's perfectly fine to post it in Development. Your are not asking a general question - you are asking what the devs have in mind vis a vis development, now that KB1 has dropped.
That said, given that there was already another thread, you shouldn't have started another one. Consider your wrist slapped, ha, ha.
dalewest said:
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no worries.
not ticked here. my original post was just to redirect you and try to help you avoid the flood of responses and/or flames that were sure to come.