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Question about Hero Roms

What is the most stable Hero Rom available to flash to G1.... I tried JACHero and it was a lil tooo slugish for me main thing that bugged me was that when ever i tried to add widgets to home screen id get force close and i also couldnt change the wallpaper on home screen

really... reported

most of the latest versions that are out right now are sable enough to use right now for me. Everyone so far seems like they have text problems. I get about 50 to 70% of my texts. I can text my phone using AIM on my PC and only get a few of the ones i test. Also you need to make sure you follow all the steps so you have a working version. If i were to run a Hero build right now I would run Drizzy's Elite v0.5. With 32mb swap and 40 swappiness. That build over all to me feels like the most sable and I can run with more then 5 widgets and get no lag at all. This is also the build that I have ran for more then a few days. Just wait for the Devs to put out a build based off the Hero 2.0 dump. Texting might be fixed. Until then I would tell you to use CM builds.

jjseis said:
What is the most stable Hero Rom available to flash to G1.... I tried JACHero and it was a lil tooo slugish for me main thing that bugged me was that when ever i tried to add widgets to home screen id get force close and i also couldnt change the wallpaper on home screen
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ask these type of things in Q&A or search.
jacs 1.6r2a is pretty stable and decent speed. drizzy in my opinion usually has faster roms but he is working on a new update. and it depends on your sd card. class 6 is recommended

jaaronmoody said:
really... reported
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and really... you had nothin to contribute to this. at least i said g nxt time post in q&a or search..
and at least i gave an answer.

Questions go int the Q&A section... Does it ever stop? And please search. Android has been out for a while so it's almost guaranteed that any question you have was answered at least 15 times.

atleast someone has had the sense to reply nicely and with being a jerk, no offense there dude but you came off a big ignorant right away with a reply of " Really... Reported. "
like how rude was that, could have just said that " hey this has already been asked and posted ina thread, please close thread and ask there.. "
and said that that was against the rules and be lucky to get a warning,
instead you reply harshly... how is it you expect others to learn, if you do not give a hand once in a while, you started off in same spot at one point im sure...
we all have.. try bein a bit nicer sometime, you never know who you might piss off... might have more experience then or i combined, ... lol, never know..
but anyways, yea try searching next time original poster, makes things a bit easier when you read up once in a while... trust me i know good luck, i use stable CM 4.0.4 over any hero out there, to slow right now on a G1

Reported? Sheesh. No offense, and I fully understand that this guy is really not trying too hard, but I feel his pain. Every Hero ROM thread claims that it's rom is the best and most stable and best for everyday use and fastest and all that jazz, but a clear report synopsizing all the salient features of ALL the major builds would be incredibly useful to myself and I'm sure many others. Anyone up for the challenge? And don't refer me to the various databases which are incomplete at best. I'm really looking for a major review here. Maybe one of the review sites? Except all they seem to report on is the Market Apps and basically ignore the rooted development community.

tnap1979 said:
atleast someone has had the sense to reply nicely and with being a jerk, no offense there dude but you came off a big ignorant right away with a reply of " Really... Reported. "
like how rude was that, could have just said that " hey this has already been asked and posted ina thread, please close thread and ask there.. "
and said that that was against the rules and be lucky to get a warning,
instead you reply harshly... how is it you expect others to learn, if you do not give a hand once in a while, you started off in same spot at one point im sure...
we all have.. try bein a bit nicer sometime, you never know who you might piss off... might have more experience then or i combined, ... lol, never know..
but anyways, yea try searching next time original poster, makes things a bit easier when you read up once in a while... trust me i know good luck, i use stable CM 4.0.4 over any hero out there, to slow right now on a G1
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The way I started on this forum was just search and read stickies bc I was too scared to post due to all the flaming for people who ask repetitive questions and threads in the wrong forum. I learned how to do pretty much everything I needed to learn without posting 1 comment for 6 months and only started posting to help people when they ask question in the right section or already in a thread. If I can search and read stickies for 6 months I don't see why nobody else can, and believe me I'm not some genius I just have common sense. Though I'm not gonna lie a report is pretty harsh lol

ThR1LL said:
The way I started on this forum was just search and read stickies bc I was too scared to post due to all the flaming for people who ask repetitive questions and threads in the wrong forum. I learned how to do pretty much everything I needed to learn without posting 1 comment for 6 months and only started posting to help people when they ask question in the right section or already in a thread. If I can search and read stickies for 6 months I don't see why nobody else can, and believe me I'm not some genius I just have common sense. Though I'm not gonna lie a report is pretty harsh lol
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well i remember when i tried to flash my 8525 i was confused and didnt understand. some people mayb not fully understand things and want a real quick answer. its natural for ppl to want the easy way out. and people have different ways of learning. some ppl can read and learn, some learn visually, some learn from direct feedback.

exactly well put there thR1ll... i am very well knowledged in many diff cellphone areas, ive unlocked many personal handsets over the years, unlocked and relfashed roms or whatnot over various diff providers, and types.. eg: CDMA, GSM, TDMA... nokia's, moto's, iPhones, HTC's, and i did it all from learning, reading, asking questions where and when needed... i was never rude, never impolite, but yes sometime even asked a few dumb one's myself without looking first... lol but yea, point has been proven, to next time post in proper section of forums, and for post repliers., to look it upon yourself to be a bit nicer, as you had to once yourself ask dumb things

brian_v3ntura said:
well i remember when i tried to flash my 8525 i was confused and didnt understand. some people mayb not fully understand things and want a real quick answer. its natural for ppl to want the easy way out. and people have different ways of learning. some ppl can read and learn, some learn visually, some learn from direct feedback.
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True but that doesn't change the fact each and every member should follow the forum's rules and guidelines despite how impatient or type of learner they are. I guarantee that if this thread was posted in Q&A you'd see a couple "use search" posts but not to the extent of possible flamage here seeing both "use search" and "post question in Q&A" lol.

a report is not a flame or harsh it only helps the mods cause they cant read all the forums all the time, and they have said as much. this belongs in one of the 3 THREADS AT THE TOP OF THE FORUM! and that was not yelling, it was only making emphasis.

jaaronmoody said:
a report is not a flame or harsh it only helps the mods cause they cant read all the forums all the time, and they have said as much. this belongs in one of the 3 THREADS AT THE TOP OF THE FORUM! and that was not yelling, it was only making emphasis.
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well maybe so... jaaron.. but you could have gone about it in saying such instead of issuing a report so sooon, without advanced notification to the poor guy, thats all im saying, not bein a jerk, but specifying you have probably made a mistake yourself a few times getting ahead of where you were

I want to know why people are so impaitient to get a perfect hero! It takes time and still we won't have a perfect hero!
Drizzy

Isn't the actualy Hero itself semi-buggy still?

Drizzy Drake Rogers said:
I want to know why people are so impaitient to get a perfect hero! It takes time and still we won't have a perfect hero!
Drizzy
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ive tried a few versions of your roms there Drizz... and i have to admit, i could never dream to get as close to having hero running as you guys have...
ive done my own rom cooking on cdma diamond from htc, and i have to admit, it not be similar, but its still not that simple... regards to the good jobs so far

all i am going to say is.. i like chocolate ice cream, i snort fire ants, and i can take a roundhouse kick from chuck norris.. i am just that beast.
but anyways i want peoples opinion about this dudes auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120465340396&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
i personally hate him. his youtube channel is dumb and he thinks jacxhero1.1 is the best hero rom... even tho i told him theres sms issues but he just deleted my comment.
and oh yea his buy it now price is 450.. i think we should all send him hate mail.
and he said LIMITED EDITION whtie g1 lol

If you can't read even the title of the first three threads on this forum, you deserve to be reported... also, continually answering these questions in the wrong forum only encourages more of this kind of behavior, post in the right forum, and you probably won't get "jerk" answers... or be reported for that matter... also, the mods have requested that we stop answering these questions in the wrong forums, so really, reported...

h.nocturna said:
If you can't read even the title of the first three threads on this forum, you deserve to be reported... also, continually answering these questions in the wrong forum only encourages more of this kind of behavior, post in the right forum, and you probably won't get "jerk" answers... or be reported for that matter... also, the mods have requested that we stop answering these questions in the wrong forums, so really, reported...
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lol... typical...
all good with me, im done here, not gonna argue with know it alls...
good luck anyways

quick question to developers

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No matter how many times...
Why do Devs need to answer this plenty of us can answer this already, however I'll not due to you posting in the wrong section and KNOWING about it. I might have answered if you hadn't known, but...

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malaeus said:
damn you dont gotta be a douche... i didnt mean to piss anyone off. however i have asked this before in Q&A and got no answer. i just need someone experienced to give me an answer. the radio had been installed before, and i needed to flash death SPL for them. thats all......
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Unfortunately, most of us don't take people posting in the wrong section the right way, and tend to be douches

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Honestly, most of the time you have to wait 20 minutes till you get an answer in Q&A in my experience, just be patient and don't make un-necessary thread in a forum that's about development.
EDIT: He isn't being a douche, he's being a person who actually respects forum rules, it's like laws, but of course like in society we give you people second chances and refuse to flame too badly

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So I'm guessing if I don't get a response from a company I can just barge into an office and grab someone to talk to me about my problem?
Just let this thread close please.

malaeus said:
actually i posted the question in Q&A about 2 weeks ago and it got buried inside of 20mins. and all im asking is for a simple answer, i could have had it answered by now with the amount of nonpoint comments and trolls visiting this.
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You posted it on a bad day then, once it is moved, I'll answer. Until then, I refuse. However, you are free to pm, I tend to be friendlier there

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5494585#post5494585
did it for you

Well it's pretty much your fault, as you should have known this would've happened on ANY forum.(unless it's some Religious Forum)
But, fine I'm feeling generous today. You only need to wipe and flash the Death SPL, not the radio as that could potentially brick the phone.
so basically
1.wipe phone
2.flash death spl
3.flash rom
Have fun breaking more forum rules, sorry mods for this thread.

malaeus said:
what kind of logic..... whatever this is just becoming troll bait.
if someone would have had the decency to answer my question to begin with and not flame all over the place like a bunch of immature morons, this would have been done already.
sorry for posting on your rag day, but just change your tampon and if you dont have the answer, dont clutter it with pointless posts....... talk about let it die, just let this get one good answer and the thing would have been deleted by now.
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I only use iTampon's sorry. And the logic, since when is the internet logical?
Anyways, if you are absolutely SURE you have the radio, flash the spl.

JAguirre1231 said:
I only use iTampon's sorry. And the logic, since when is the internet logical?
Anyways, if you are absolutely SURE you have the radio, flash the spl.
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I've been craving a thread to get wrecked...

malaeus said:
well you could have just as easily given me the answer i needed and mods would have erased this. if i had the ability to erase it myself i would. and if people would actually answer things in the Q&A section i would have gladly posted there. but its overfilled with idiotic questions that have been in the FAQ for years now. mine however has not been stated on the forum before. as i am experienced with forums and unlike many others here i know where the SEARCH button is.
but after searching through many separate forums as well as googling it, and still not receiving an answer, i figured posting this directly to someone in the direct developing community would give me the most experienced answer.
thank you for your time, and go douche somewhere else.
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This is the problem. People ask the same questions over and over and it is extremely annoying to have to sort through all of the nonsense.This is impossible to solve since most of us are selfish and want what we want. The answer to your question is in the threads about upgrading the SPL.

malaeus said:
First things first, i know this should go in Q&A, however in my experience not many devs frequent that forum. so i would pose my question into the dev forum. MODS feel free to remove this thread after i have received an appropriate answer, thank you very much.
i have read all the wonderful posts about Hard SPL and haykuro's death SPL.
i have successfully made the transition to haykuro's death SPL myself, however. a friend of mine has a G1 as well, i have rooted their phone. and put the latest cyanogen mod on it. i have NOT updated the SPL for cyanogen (because it was optional, and they didnt want a chance of brick)
NOW they want me to try out a new mod for them on their phone. this new mod requires the death SPL, however they already have the LATEST radio 26I.
am i able to simply flash the new haykuro death spl like anything else? with no issues seeing as how the phone already has the latest radio (thanks to cyanogen build)?
i cant risk bricking his phone as i have no cash to replace it.
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I don't wish to offend anyone here but, as a senior member you should have guessed this thread would annoy quite a few people. The fact that you're aware that this was posted in the wrong forum is probably worse.
This is the exact reason a QnA forum was made, to stop this forum getting cluttered with questions.

Meltus said:
I don't wish to offend anyone here but, as a senior member you should have guessed this thread would annoy quite a few people. The fact that you're aware that this was posted in the wrong forum is probably worse.
This is the exact reason a QnA forum was made, to stop this forum getting cluttered with questions.
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I feel bad for the nexus guys, they don't have QnA forum

JAguirre1231 said:
I feel bad for the nexus guys, they don't have QnA forum
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now that is a problem lol. glad i don't have a nexus xD

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malaeus said:
not worth it.
mods just ****ing delete this thread already, too many trolls, too many worthless flying asshats.
sick of it, you arent worth it.
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then post in the right section already! or kindly pm someone! or just google it! You don't pay for our help so we don't care if you leave the forums!

I think this is what i should put this

i don't know if this will help any of you dedicated developers, but i pulled a bootlog from the (ugh, recently un-)rooted rogers dream i have with osmonitor. i can't make too much sense of it, so maybe you will have better luck?

First hint what is a sentance called if you add a ? to the end of it....
a QUESTION...
now QUESTIONS go in the QUESTIONS section
now that you have been educated up to a first grade level, maybe you can post this in the right forum and mayyybe someone will give you help, im hoping not however

bbuchacher said:
First hint what is a sentance called if you add a ? to the end of it....
a QUESTION...
now QUESTIONS go in the QUESTIONS section
now that you have been educated up to a first grade level, maybe you can post this in the right forum and mayyybe someone will give you help, im hoping not however
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Wow, did you even read what they said, or did you just look for a question mark and post a generic response? No question was asked other than a rhetorical one... Seriously, this forum has far too many wannabe mods. To be honest, that was a pretty rude response considering they've done nothing wrong at all but trying to help in development.
Sorry I can't actually help with that log, I just had to say something, this is getting out of hand o.0.

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Wow, did you even read what they said, or did you just look for a question mark and post a generic response? No question was asked other than a rhetorical one... Seriously, this forum has far too many wannabe mods. To be honest, that was a pretty rude response considering they've done nothing wrong at all but trying to help in development.
Sorry I can't actually help with that log, I just had to say something, this is getting out of hand o.0.
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Guess is a higher geek count then in most places dont let it get to you tho.

well, now that is what I call a rather rude response. I posted that at 9 pm, and wasn't really too coherent. I'm also surprised that it offended you that much that you had to start a personal attack on me; Seeing as it wound up buried on page two or three by this morning. I posted that boot log as I noticed something when I was looking at it, that it ignored the previous radio versions, and thought that might be a clue for someone who knows about the roms to actually do something constructive. Not that reminding me about the rules of grammar and such wasn't constructive.

Moved as not Android Development.

Im not sure if this can be done with an unrooted fone but if you have Android SDK then get a logcat.
The Devs can understand this much better I think.

[Q] How do I do a Nandroid restore?

So I think I'm doing something wrong.
I made a Nandroid backup in Recovery mode, and thankfully I did because I tried flashing a theme and I got boot loop. So I went back into recovery mode, went to Backup/Restore, Restore Nandroid, and selected the latest backup I made. It goes through the process of restoring (with the flashing dots at the bottom) and says "Restore Complete". I then hit back, and select Reboot Now.
Then it hits the fan. I get stuck at the green "HTC" screen. Nothing happens at all. I let it sit for half an hour and nothing. Am I missing something or doing something wrong? I don't know what to do any help would be really appreciated! Thanks everyone.
Brian

Try doing a full wipe from recovery and then restoring. If that doesn't work then you will probably have to reflash your rom and redownload your apps. BTW this should be in Q&A. Hope this helps!

Hah, that did it! Thank you very much for the quick reply greatly appreciated!

WOW..i think yo u should be banned! Really did you not even bother using the search button???? i know there are plenty of threads about this, and this is a question not Development! READ THE RULES AND SEARCH FIRST!

t12icky0 said:
WOW..i think yo u should be banned! Really did you not even bother using the search button???? i know there are plenty of threads about this, and this is a question not Development! READ THE RULES AND SEARCH FIRST!
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calm down. just report the thread as in the wrong section. we were all noobs at some point and there's no sense in getting angry at people who don't do things 'exactly right' according to your standards. Chillax breh.

Look dude, they guy asked a simple question and I provided a simple answer. To be honest, you've been flaming every single person that posts in the wrong forum, not to mention you are being rude about it too. You haven't contributed anything but negative comments. I'm here to help in any way that I can, even if my help is being put towards topics in the incorrect sub-forum.
To the OP, the only thing you've done wrong is misinterpret what "Development" means. Please post in Q&A or general so this jerk will leave everyone alone.
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I admit yes im flaming people lately because im tired of people not paying attention to the rules or even bother searching the forums(like this person). This is a very basic and known question if they would have just searched.
I dont care if they are new or not if they didnt see the HUGE STICKY THREAD saying dont post questions in this section, then something is wrong, either they need glasses or they are just plain stupid. i would be more then willing to contribute if the thread is posted in the correct section and if they had bothered to even search beforehand(which its obvious this person did not).
Questions belong in the Q&A section not in development. you guys can call me a **** or watever but im just tired of going to the development to see multiple questions of the same crap. If they bothered looking or searching also i wouldnt be such a pain. Just cause you guys think im being mean doesnt make the forums become less cluttered up also. If you let 1 person make a Q&A thread saying oh its ok he is new then there will be 50 more threads of "NEW" people doing it. Im sorry but rules are rules.
MODS i apologize for being like this

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WOW..i think yo u should be banned! Really did you not even bother using the search button???? i know there are plenty of threads about this, and this is a question not Development! READ THE RULES AND SEARCH FIRST!
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Banned for being new and wanting some help? I agree, it should be under q&a but give the guy a break
Sent from my HTC Hero running froyo: take that, Sprint!

+1 Imp - I agree - wow - all that hostility over someone needing help and being new! yikes!

[Q] Stock phone

Does anyone have a perfectly stock backup will all blot ware like it's out the box?

Yeah there are a few here. Search and you will see them!

There was a thread here where someone posted a stock ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838151
Hope this helps,
AoN

its the one click odin jf6 if you want to go all the way back to the first software that came with the captivate. search for it

another post posted in the perfect section ...

DAGr8 said:
another post posted in the perfect section ...
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this.
why do people not even pay attention to what section is what?

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Does anyone have a perfectly stock backup will all blot ware like it's out the box?
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Is this developement related or should this be in the QA section? I do think it belongs in the QA section. Next time post in the correct section or post will get reported as spam lol

1. Search dude. This is one of the most obvious questions I've ever seen asked here.
2. Read around the forums before posting, that goes hand-in-hand with searching...
3. Post in the right friggin' section. You have a [Q] in your tread title which means it's a question, which is fine, but its not a "Captivate Android Development" question! It belongs in the Question and Answer section. (which is amazingly obvious, it's not like they hide it from you around here)
4. The answer to your question is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989 which you didn't even need to search to find, its on the first page of the Development section which I know you looked in because you posted here.
*sigh*

The kid has two posts total. He is obviously new to the forums. So stop just repeating what everyone says. He doesn't need four people to tell him its a question and should be in the Q&A section. Don't act like its outrageous for a beginner to do something like ask a question in the development section, LIKE OMFG JESUS!! Sick of the clutter from all the questions yea, but also sick of reading all the bash posts towards people that are fresh to the forums. You were once a noob too!

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The kid has two posts total. He is obviously new to the forums. So stop just repeating what everyone says. He doesn't need four people to tell him its a question and should be in the Q&A section. Don't act like its outrageous for a beginner to do something like ask a question in the development section, LIKE OMFG JESUS!! Sick of the clutter from all the questions yea, but also sick of reading all the bash posts towards people that are fresh to the forums. You were once a noob too!
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+1 we ought to be a little patient to newbies

+2.....We were all newbs once and some of us still learning everyday. Just do some research...this is a great place to learn and get the most of your device.
Sent from my cog bacon cappy...

diablo009 said:
+1 we ought to be a little patient to newbies
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No, we shouldn't. Threads like these impair actual threads that get pushed to page two.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

silverslotcar said:
The kid has two posts total. He is obviously new to the forums. So stop just repeating what everyone says. He doesn't need four people to tell him its a question and should be in the Q&A section. Don't act like its outrageous for a beginner to do something like ask a question in the development section, LIKE OMFG JESUS!! Sick of the clutter from all the questions yea, but also sick of reading all the bash posts towards people that are fresh to the forums. You were once a noob too!
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I have to agree with this 100%. When I first started I didn't even realize I could search the forums or threads. Instead of someone pointing out to me there was search and explain how it works I was unbelievably verbally beaten to a bloody pulp about what an idiot I was. Even today I was taken to task for a post that cites a measure of rom's performance instead of the accepted evaluations we see day in and day out-fantastic, great, best, unbelievably fast. To me the true evaluation of a rom has to be functionality and some measure. If you do not think Quadrant scores, net speed tests and Lin pack scores measure performance tell me what does. I understand e mail works, videos play, I can make phone calls etc. That tells me how the rom functions. How do you measure a rom's performance other than to say fantastic, great, good etc.? Tell me.

All the "this is in the wrong forum, dude" posts are not about development either, so you're all off topic.
Spend less time bashing, and more time helping the new forum members.
The internet doesn't need more assholes, just more manners and good examples.
AoN

So just because someone is new to the forums we give them some leeway because they can't READ? Seriously guys it doesn't matter how new you are, if you have a question, put it in the Question and Answers thread. Almost every website has a search function, they aren't hard to find, so that excuse of "I didn't know" is pretty bogus.

DemonWav said:
So just because someone is new to the forums we give them some leeway because they can't READ? Seriously guys it doesn't matter how new you are, if you have a question, put it in the Question and Answers thread. Almost every website has a search function, they aren't hard to find, so that excuse of "I didn't know" is pretty bogus.
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I've learned my way around on my own for the most part, but damn yall still intimidate me...

odin restore man...read up next time

DemonWav said:
So just because someone is new to the forums we give them some leeway because they can't READ? Seriously guys it doesn't matter how new you are, if you have a question, put it in the Question and Answers thread. Almost every website has a search function, they aren't hard to find, so that excuse of "I didn't know" is pretty bogus.
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this.
just because they are new we are supposed to let them fill the wrong forums up with clutter that they could have easily found by a simple browse around or search?
no.
thats not how it should be handled.
gimme gimme gimme! just doesnt sit well with me.

How hard is it for a moderator to do their job and move the thread to Q & A or to delete it?? If they did you guys would have no argument that it "pushes" the other threads to page two. I still don't get it......Seems to me like ppl are making a big deal out of nothing.

silverslotcar said:
How hard is it for a moderator to do their job and move the thread to Q & A or to delete it?? If they did you guys would have no argument that it "pushes" the other threads to page two. I still don't get it......Seems to me like ppl are making a big deal out of nothing.
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when you are reading these forums every day trying to see whats going on in the dev world, all you see on the front page are [Q] threads, posted in the wrong section. then we have to filter out all the BS and try to find useful info, when it should be right there, easily accessible, which is the point of breaking up the sections of the forums....
it's clutter
and the mods do a good job of moving them, but the n00bs come in here and post the BS so fast, its impossible to keep up.