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Running Services Question

On the bottom...what does it mean?
Other: 49MB in 3?
Avail: 170MB+116MB in 14?
Why have a +? I ran out of space installing apps (trying to test out Earth), I had well enough in the Avail: section and pretty sure in the Other: section, but was told that I was out of Space?

Funny, my browser stopped responding then I too just got a status bar warning that I was running low on space (which is odd cuz I don't have a lot of apps).
I used 'SystemPanel' to see my application storage and it varied wildly each time I checked it over a period of an hour. The status bar warning went away & then came back.
So I just rebooted & everything seems fine (over 100M free again).
Maybe a malfunction or a bug? Are you stock or using a ROM? I'm using CM 5.0.7.1

Knew I forgot something...I'm running Froyo stock.

This really sucks...can't install any more than approximately 20 apps!

The browser in froyo has a known memory bug where it keeps using all available memory. System panel will show 80 mb or more being consumed by it. That's giving your error I'm sure.

Maybe it's not just Froyo cuz I think the same thing happened to my device

ok so i could use some help... please...

alright it is with great pain that i am writing this, but i really need some help here. for months i've read the forums, searched for answers, asked little individual questions, IMed with people directly for help... and i'm still having trouble.
i rooted my T-Mobile G1 all the way back when cupcake first came out. everything was great. life was grand. everything ruled. i was a happy android fanboy, talking friends into switching to android, talking crap about iphones... the works... but slowly things started getting slower and slower and slower...
the obvious thing was to wipe and reflash. i was constantly just updating to newer cyanogen roms at that point without wiping. so i wiped to the newest cyanogen at the time (can't remember at this point, but just picture it was like a couple months after cupcake). so things were good again for a little bit, but then it started slowing down again, getting FC's, etc. so a friend recommended i switch to superD... i did, and again, everything was great for a while. i consistently upgraded superD roms (sometimes wiping in between sometimes not). eventually i got to the point where i was on the most recent superD release. it lasted about a day before things started slowing down. examples include when i hit home to exit an application and go to the home screen, the whole screen would either turn black or just show my wallpaper for a good 5 seconds before my home screen would appear, or opening the browser would take like 10 seconds. lots of slow down.
so with the help of a friend i decided to completely wipe and reformat/repartition my sd card. i bought titanium backup but i didn't even bother with it, i said to myself, look, you barely use any of the stuff you have right now, how about just start fresh and reinstall things as you need them manually. so i formatted, repartitioned (using amon Ra's recovery, using the menu option that helps you do it automatically). i made sure i had the most recent radio and spl (this was just a couple months ago), and reflashed the most recent superD (i think its 1.11 if i remember correctly)... again, maybe one day of good performance before everything slowed down. this was also about the time when my battery life started becoming an issue. i'm not exaggerating when i say i couldn't make it home without breaking under 20% battery by the end of the day... and i really don't use my phone THAT much. i'd say i'm a little above average on my usage. i'll get into my widgets and apps in a second, but i really don't use that much stuff...
SO... continuing my story (thanks for sticking with me if you're still reading...). when cyanogens 2.1 for the g1 rom came out (5.0.8d/s) i decided it was time for a change. i reformatted AGAIN, repartioned AGAIN, and flashed 5.0.8. basically, i've got the same story going on. slowdowns, poor battery life, etc.
so here i am with my cyanogen 5.0.8 flashed g1. let me tell you about apps and widgets and stuff. right now i have a regular wallpaper (not live), 14 icons between my 5 screens and just the google search and power management widgets. i used to have calwidget, the genie widget (both news and weather), and the setcpu widgets too, but i decided to take them off to see if it would help with performance. zero help. apps that i either know for sure are always running or i think may have some impact are twidroyd, newsrob, craigsnotif (craigslist notifier), and dealdroid. i don't think any other apps are running and/or do automatic updates for content and stuff like that.
i also use cachemate (purchased) regularly to clear my caches. apps2sd is enabled.
i'm not sure what other information you'd need to help me out, but just let me know and i'll try to give you more details.
right now, i've got slow down like almost all the time. things are constantly pausing, slowing down. i feel like i'm back on my t-mobile mda with winmo5 haha. and forget about it with the battery. i left the house with 90% battery this morning. i went to the gym. went home. picked up lunch. came to work. its been like 4 hours. i currently have 19% battery. all i've done is make 2 phone calls, about a dozen text messages and i've sent 2 tweets (about my battery problem haha). i also used google maps once to look up a number. my wifi and gps is off.
so there we go. really guys, please please please. help me out if you can. any help would be appreciated. i'm so sick of this. and i'm stuck in contract until july 2011. so i'm not getting a new phone any time soon. i gotta figure this thing out.
i really appreciate your help.
thanks.
Dave

OH... and PS... forgot to mention that I just got a new battery this week thinking maybe the battery was just getting old and bad. obviously, no such luck.

I had the same issues till I flashed a SuperD, then everything was fine. I just recently flashed the Froyo from Cyanogen and its like it fixed everything and I'm on a brand new device (knock on wood)!
How old is your G1? Do we know if there are issues with the first run out of the factory? Is that even an issue?

i got the g1 last july. so it was already out for a while at that point. it was new from a store though. i suppose there could be something actually wrong with the phone itself, but i don't know. i was thinking of trying the cyanogen froyo but because its not a stable release yet i figured it would be just this bad or worse...

I promise cm5.0.8 has wonderful battery life when no custom apps are installed and not on any network..
so the question is what is your phone doing, and ought it be doing what it is doing.
There are some nice built in tools for this
Applications->running services
And
Applications -> manage applications (check out the filter in the menu from that screen)
You may be surprised by the apps the think they need to constantly have a service running for some painful trivial job the android API has better interfaces for.. if in addition to that you don't need the app uninstall it.
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.

another example, as i was reading this i was on the phone and i just finished the call and hung up, and i was previously in text messages, it took 12 seconds for my text messages to come up. thats just insane...
as for running services:
- GTalkService <--- I use GTalk all the time
- GenieRefresh Service (Restarting) <--- weird considering I disabled this widget, although I'd LIKE to have it back
- Maps FriendsAppWidgetUpdater (Restarting) <--- never used this in my life
- NewsRob UnreadWidgetProvidor (Restarting) <--- never used the widget before (as a matter of fact, you have to pay to use the widget and i have the free version... weird)
-Twidroyd Background Service <--- understandable, I use this constantly
- AKNotepad Snaptic Update (Restarting) <---- umm... I use this all the time but I don't know why a notepad program would need an updater service running... interesting...
- Swype <---- gotta have that
- CM Updater (Restarting) <--- Don't really think that needs to be on all the time. Can easily manually refresh that...
So that's it. I didn't realize this was included now. Very cool. On older roms I had to use task managers which don't seem to really work. I'm going to stop everything except twidroyd, gtalk and swype right now and see how that does... at the bottom it says Avail: 3.2MB+0.00B in 0 ... Other: 55MB in 4 ... While typing that the Maps FriendsAppWidget just popped back up... I'm gonna see if theres a setting...
In the meantime, does any of this give you any ideas? thank you so much for the advice. Also what does (Restarting) mean?

ezterry said:
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
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oh and i have compcache not checked and launcher in memory IS checked... i just tried turning on the compcache option... lets see how that goes...

ok so...
now that i know about those things that were running, i stopped all the ones i don't need, and also went into the apps to see if there was any options for turning off automatic updates, background syncing, etc etc for those things... i'm gonna charge my phone while getting ready to go out and then we'll see how it goes throughout the evening. lets see if i make it home with more than 20% battery left (i'll be gone for like 5 hours). if so then we're on to something here still i find it weird that i can't have a few widgets loaded. but whatever, i'll take a smoothly running phone that lasts all day and i just have to click on icons to get to stuff any day... thanks for the help, i'll let you know how its going tomorrow.

the next day
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
so back to square one... any ideas guys?
thanks so much for any help you can give me. i really really appreciate it.

polarbearmc said:
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
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Um... The compcache instability scares me a bit
Compcache has had issues (maybe still does) where the first time you enable it the phone crashes.. but then works fine with Compcache on reboot. Otherwise it really ought no make the phone unstable. (it may or may not speed things up depending on how memory is being used.. usually however it allows 12MB of memory that is rarely used to be compressed, allowing a little more active memory to be utilized) You may want to look into wiping dalvik-cache both on the internal memory and SD card:
Enter console and run (this will restart the phone)
Code:
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /cache/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /sd-ext/dalvik-cache/*
reboot
if you get an error about no files found thats not an issue; but other errors may indicate a problem.
This may help system stability (with or without compcache) .. but won't do anything about the battery life (nor speed unless something was seriously wrong)
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Unfortunately you will either need to erase all your apps and just run stock CM5 [maybe slowly restore your apps you really need] -- OR -- be very patient and debug whatever application(s) are causing issues on your phone (and maybe complain to the dev for failing to read/understand google's documentation on how to write android applications.. not that some of the google apps haven't quite figured that out until recently)
Thus again the main question is what is running on your phone.. The places I mentioned before allow you to see the services (most of which usually restart if you run the related application again) but not strictly all the details to look for.
Example 1 An widget service is likely holding onto memory starving timer services (those not listed) and swapping out other services (phone/launcher making everything feel slow) At the same time the widget is not very active usually and may not connect to the internet at all; thus may not reduce battery life.
Example 2 An IM client on the other hand may requires a service to keep TCP/IP connections alive, and if not coded properly may be very persistent and cause a slow continual stream of data from your phone requiring a large amount of power to keep the phone on 2G/Edge.
Example 3 A Task killer an kill tasks that re-spawn, or kill a task in use if it doesn't know better causing things to behave in strange ways.. so can killing services/applications from the setting screens btw.. but at least that is a one off by user decision not a automatic operation in the background. Tasks when re-spawned may require more data from the internet thus more power to 2G/Edge
User: Then the one that causes me the most problems: A user that keeps the phone in his/her pocket rather than surfing the web, checking XDA, or continuously checking the battery level is using the device less thus will have longer battery life. (careful to not fall into this trap)
Other Ideas:
SetCPU: set the sleep CPU low in profiles (sleep for me is 245/160)[/*]
Verify End action: Settings->End Button Behavior->Go to sleep[/*]
Set longer periods between polls in applications that poll the net (example twitter every 10 or 20mins.. not 5)[/*]
Larger net transfers on wifi if available (example tell newsrob to sync on wifi only) wifi drains the battery faster than idle, but is much cheaper if larger amounts of data are involved.[/*]
As you can see many things will impact the system. You will need to find the ones eating your battery
Another helpful screen for debugging this may be Settings->Spare Parts->Battery History and Settings->Spare Parts->Usage Statistics
I get between 4h and 12h batter life under semi-normal conditions. 4h = surfing 3g + tappatalk + games.. 12h check email/tweat if i get one.. otherwise stays in my pocket. I've seen my test phone hang out for days on a 2g network without data. (so you can always set your apn type to mms if you just need it to be a phone for many hours.. mms keeps mms support btw)
Ebuddy (and most other MSN/AIM/ect chat clients is frequently one of the biggest problems on my phone.. so if I need more battery those are the first to go.. and whomever it is can poke me on gtalk/txt/or wait
Good luck in your search.. Took me a while to make cm5 work as long as cm4.. most of it was mis-behaving apps that I either know to shut off when I need longer battery life.. or have found replacements for.. or avoid widget functionality if the widget was misconfigured. (

Bionic Unexpected Rebooting

[Q]
Out of the blue my Bionic just started rebooting. 8-10 time per day, who knows how may time at night. I am using the stock ROM. I am looking for a stable ROM that I can use to fix the problem. I also have the problem of disapearing apps that I move to the ext card.
Feedback on possible cures will be welcomed.

I just experienced my first unexpected reboot. It was after plugging in my USB to my computer.

This seems like the sort of thing that would have a 50% chance of being related to your hardware, and a 50% chance of an unstable app screwing something up. The stock software is at least stable enough that it's not very likely to be the cause of your issues, and flashing another ROM (which will have the same kernel) won't help if it is a hardware issue.
A factory reset followed by staggered reinstallation of apps (one or two at a time, to see if one in particular might be causing issues) would be my first step for a problem as extreme as random reboots. The next step is through warranty channels. I might even do that first- I don't think I could put up with a phone that rebooted on me.
And the cure for disappearing apps is to not use media area for storage. The phone dedicates 4gb for apps, that should be more than enough until they patch a fix.

i may have to add that my phone was completely stable until i purchased and installed the extended battery then i started to experience reboots and a few locks here and there.
i did a few factory reset on the stock but the phone was still acting up with the new battery.
i then decided to root and run roms and to be frank no locks and or reboots running the same battery that seemed to be causing the problems based on that being the only change to my phone before the reboot and locks.
i am not saying that there is something there with the stock as there would be more reports on this but rooting and going back to stock is a single click now making it a fast process to trouble shoot the software.
i am experiencing a bad or short life with the extended so in my case it could have been the battery screwing up the reads on the software (guess) but the first 3 charge from full to dead just about 3 days after that same extended only last one day.
in general it seemed that my issue could have been a bad battery and wiping data and playing with roms may had help but in the end i will be calling verizon for a battery replacement as i doubt that in two weeks the battery charge for an extended could only last 1 day of medium use.
sorry long response and by no means i'm i encouraging to root and rom just speaking out of my experience.

Hi - first post here. After 4 Thunderbolts - Verizon sent me a Bionic. Much better however, after rooting with 43v3r and de-bloating with The Black Hat App - I'm having random reboots. Initially, the reboots were several times per day increasing in frequency to several times an hour. Y u c k - My Thunderbolt could do that too.
So in troubleshooting:
1 - I've reverted to stock build - no add'l apps: No reboots in 48 hours. So - I doubt it's hardware.
2- After reverting - I then rooted w/43v3R, then debloated - just using stock apps - no reboots in 24 hours. So, I really doubt it's debloating or rooting
3 - After adding a few apps - Stitcher, Enhanced email, SVOX w/voice, Beautiful Widgets (w/clock selected) - I get a reboot.
4 - Remove everything but stitcher. No reboots - 24 hours.
5 - Add Enhanced Email yesterday
Today, I had a reboot.
6 - So culprit 'looks' like Enhanced Email OR perhaps a switching problem between 3/4g (The Thunderbolt - Stitcher used to drop connection in this particular location so, there IS an issue w/3G-4G.
Questions:
1 - If it's not a 3g/4g issue; could it be related to where Enhanced email or Stitcher chooses to install itself?
2 - Is there a log somewhere where I could find 'boot' times and any issues relating to reboots? Like a 'minidump' in Windows...
thanks

I, too, have started having unexpected reboots. I can't pinpoint it exactly, but I have also recently isntalled Enhanced Email (trial version).

Reboot Logger
Hey Google is our friend - don't know why I didn't look before but I found this in Android Market.
"Reboot Logger" by Watanabe,Masayuki.
Just installed it - will report back after Thanksgiving (in the U.S. - Thursday)...
(I would post a link but I'm a noob here - and, now I know why I hate myself.)
Looks like promising -

Have yall installed any themes or different battery icons, or anything like that to yours? Mine is 43v3R rooted with the liberty romv2. I was changing a cpl of the icons and experienced a reboot just out of the blue. I got rid of the icons I changed and stayed with the icons that came with the liberty rom and have no issues at all. I do not have enhanced mail on mine.

most bionics will turn off and wont turn back on till you do a battery pull. Its a known issue, all you have to do is google it and it turns up. From what ive read putting the battery on performance mode and putting on detect in pocket will help. Personally it doesnt help, i had the issue with the stock battery so purchased a extended thinking it was the battery, but after doing research i found out it isnt. They say the new OTA should fix it

icons - reboot logger
Thanks - haven't changed any icons BUT I am using HTC Thunderbolt wallpaper. I had a Thunderbolt that had a reboot problem until the OTA before Gingerbread - Verizon offered me the Bionic when I called about my Thunderbolt issues (I had three replacements - all with the same issues).
I will try different wallpaper -
Reboot logger works well but doesn't offer a clue as to what is causing the reboots. Mine has rebooted 2-3 times per day since I installed Reboot Logger(RL).
3 times a day is tolerable but, I would like to get to the bottom of what's causing it.
What IS helpful with RL is that it does show that the reboots are not occuring in any obvious time sequence.
They may be related to push emails coming in from my Exchange server. Not sure - I'll post more as I learn more. Hopefully the upcoming OTA will fix - though my experience with HTC's OTAs does not give me a lot of hope.

Update - Last night, I uninstalled Stitcher - Stitcher frequently throws errors requiring a FORCE CLOSE. I also have kept Blueooth off.
No reboots in 24 hours -
Will reinstall Stitcher in the morning (I need it at the gym)...
Update tomorrow/Monday

Turned Bluetooth ON - no reboots in 36 hours so, It looks like Stitcher may be the culprit - I wonder if Stitcher has issue with the internal/external SD storage scheme.
As I noted previously, Stitcher reports 'force closes' frequently - especially when it's not even active (when I have not loaded it or used it).
(No sooner than I posted this - my phone rebooted. And again, and again will switch off BT - I'm in my office so, there's could be an issue with 3g/4g switching or other interference...)

Have you tried setting the phone to run strictly 3g? I have had no issues at all with mine jumping back and forth between 3g/4g.. I leave mine on 3g to keep it from trying to search for a 4g signal. I never turn bluetooth on, nor do I ever really use the compass. hmmmm... Can you tell me everything you have done to the phone. Apps you have installed, what ROM you using, if you have .886/.893 etc? I'm willing to see how close we are as for as how our phone's are setup and help as much as I can. I have not had a single issue with mine other then that one reboot after changing the battery icon.

After nearly two weeks of monitoring restarts - it appears that the problem is more related to where I am. At my home, restarts are rare and related to Stitcher.
At work in Beverly Hills, CA; restarts occur frequently. I assume it has something to do with 3g/4G switchover/crossover or interference.
I had lots of problems with the Thunderbolt dropping data connections in 90210. I could not use the hotspot. On the Bionic, the hotspot functions really well. I've used it up north near Fresno in 3G only land, here in BH and at home where I have decent 4G coverage.
When I remove Stitcher, the reboot problem disappears. Sometimes when I 'wake' the phone, there is a dialog apologizing for Stitcher having 'force closed' even if I haven't used it for days. Market reviews indicate anecdotally that Stitcher has a problem with force closes. This behavior must also be at the root of some of the reboots.
I've also set all programs not to update automatically - this may have reduced the reboots as well. On average, I'm getting 2-3 reboots per day. More than I would like but, tolerable.

[Q] Random Reboot after flash.

Since it seems Cyan has halted release of cyan 11 nightlies for the Atrix HD (indicative of what, I'm not sure), I figure it's worth solving this personal issue now; since it will most likely require another factory reset and I'd rather do it now.
Since day one of using custom ROMs, I've had the issue of my phone randomly crashing. Despite previously using only stable cyan releases, making sure to do clean resets (factory, dalvik, formatting system partitions,etc), letting the phone "stabilize" after installing (no clue what this means, but people seem to suggest just letting the phone sit about 10 min after flashing a new ROM, claiming a more stable experience), and even flashing a new kernel, I still see the same issue.
At this point, I've pretty much accepted that more likely than not, I'll have my phone randomly freeze and reset in my hands during basic use, calls, texting, internet use, listening to music, etc. Though clearing the Dalvik cache seems to quell the problem, it soon returns to the familiar behavior a day or two later. Any other basic solutions I might be overlooking? Suggestions, even obvious, very welcome.

CM11 switched to unified builds for the Moto 8960 family . http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960/
You can safely download a zip and dirty flash it over your current CM11 installation. At least that's what I did and I'm having possibly the smoothest experience so far on this phone/CM combo running Sat March 01 nightly.
About your crashes, do you get a phone freeze with signal loss before restarts? Do you always get a restart when the phone crashes?
Did you try enabling 2G only for a while? Do you crash while on WiFi?

You could also try another ROM such as Validus. I find the 4.3 release to be quite stable.

Thank you for the link to the new unified build. I've been busy with approaching midterm that I'd only heard of the new builds but didn't look into it personally.
As for the freezing. It's always been the same behavior: screen and all function buttons suddenly becoming unresponsive with no warning or change in signal (regardless of wifi or data use) remaining frozen for 10 to 30 sec, before returning to the unlocked bootload warning screen and the normal cyan reboot animation and normal lock screen after.
Everytime is has froze it will restart (i suspected a memory issue at one point, but after watching the memory usage long enough to see it randomly freeze but no change in mem, I doubt that it's directly the issue). I have not tried switching to 2g, so it would be worth a try. It will freeze regardless of whether wifi is off or on.
The only real "pattern" I could argue seeing is that it freezes most often during skype calls, while playing music (pandora and play music), and internet using browser; though it might only be because I'm actually paying attention to the phone while it is doing these tasks, I'm sure that it's probably freezing and resetting in my pocket thoughout the day. It will also randomly reset while looking through settings or non-data dependent tasks. Ironically, I've never had it reset on me while I was watching a youtube video. Go figure.

audit13 said:
You could also try another ROM such as Validus. I find the 4.3 release to be quite stable.
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Any ROM, stable, nightly, cyan or other, with still see it start randomly freezing and rebooting an hour to a day after flashing.

-update*
After having switched to 2g signal instead of LTE, I haven't seen anymore randomly rebooting. I'm not sure if this was the issue but it's already been a day which is longest I've seen it remain stable.

1 Week later, back to the same behavior as before. Seems I might just screwed for having a stable modded phone.

[Q] Device memory critical -- multitasking issues

I've been using the debloated 5.0.2 FW (pre-rooted 23.1.A.0.726 with Xposed) for months now with no issues, but one day the RAM started going crazy and has been for a month now. Every time I open an app, things in the background start restarting in a loop and multitasking is basically impossible. Restarting and clearing cache/dalvik-cache hasn't helped at all. I don't know if this is the Lollipop memory leak bug (I thought Sony had fixed this), but it's really strange that this came seemingly out of nowhere. I've attached some screenshots. Not really sure what to make of it, but memory state is in "critical" most of the time, and Google Play Services and Snapchat usage seems unusually high. Before, I had quite a few apps running in the background and the phone handled it like a champ; rarely any app refreshes, redraws, etc. Now it feels like i have 512MB of RAM again...
Anybody experiencing this? I'm thinking this could be coming from a rogue Xposed module or something. The problem is the worst if I'm using Chrome or Snapchat, but still occurs elsewhere. Any recommendations on where to find the cause?

I get exactly the same issues as you. No idea why that happens. After exiting an app and going back to Google now launcher it would've restarted so all the icons take awhile to load again and the app drawer too. This is quite annoying but a reboot fixes it. Sadly I might have to do this once a day or so, hence making the experience rather irritating.
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It's happening to me too. I'm hoping it's a 5.0.2 LP bug and will be resolved with 5.1.1's release sometime this month (fingers crossed!)
That said, I've tried nearly all the stock rom iterations on this board and Wajk's 23.2.A.1.62 build seems to be the most stable, even with Xposed installed. Version 1.1 and 1.3 of his Slim rom still had restarts (I never tried 1.2), but they actually restarted, whereas other stock roms wouldn't, and the apps that restarted remained closed until reopened manually, so I missed messages and emails all the time, and experienced launcher redraws often.
Currently, I'm on 1.4 of his rom and it seems less stable, but that could be because I had dirty flashed from 1.3, and previously dirty flashed from 1.1. Version 1.5 should be out soon, so if that doesn't improve it, I'm going to clean wipe and re-install.