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So since the first froyo leak I have been installing a bunch of differant roms just to get a taste of them all. From evil, king, rodriguezstyle, MoDaCo etc. I always wiped in between installs too. But as of lately I noticed my phone stuttering a lot. Becoming unresponsive and getting as low as 40ram free. I even went to a task manager and cancelled everything just to see if I would get my usual 240-260mb ram back but instead I would get a total of 90-130 after killing everything. Its so odd! I am on the new frf83 on stock launcher. Is there anything I can do to reclaim my old reliable phone? Wiping over and over didn't do it for me. Also, my n1 internal memory fluctuates a lot too but I'm not sure if its related. I have received a few low memory messeges.
Shameless bump! Just hoping the right people see this and respond.
If you have any memory available(even 10mb) then it would not stutter, sounds like your CPU is under heavy use.
Th3heretic said:
If you have any memory available(even 10mb) then it would not stutter, sounds like your CPU is under heavy use.
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Even when I remove all background processes using a task manager I end up with a lot less then what I have available at boot up. Usually 140mb! I'm running pershoots latest kernel @ 1.1ghz. I'm also on the newest setcpu.
Foorgot to mention, browser feels a bit beta and I crash the browser about 5 times a day. Wifi works great and occasionally disconnects for some reason. Phone also rebooted on me but that's super rare. Is there anything I can wipe besides the 2 wipe options in recovery?
sheek360 said:
Foorgot to mention, browser feels a bit beta and I crash the browser about 5 times a day. Wifi works great and occasionally disconnects for some reason. Phone also rebooted on me but that's super rare. Is there anything I can wipe besides the 2 wipe options in recovery?
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somewhere in between updating FRF50 to 72 to 83, I started having very slow performance despite free RAM.. I bit the bullet and wiped the phone and started over, installed everything back.. all is well and with FRF85B the phone is rocking again
pakraider said:
somewhere in between updating FRF50 to 72 to 83, I started having very slow performance despite free RAM.. I bit the bullet and wiped the phone and started over, installed everything back.. all is well and with FRF85B the phone is rocking again
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I'm on frf83. Where is frf85b?
I also wiped before frf83
sheek360 said:
I'm on frf83. Where is frf85b?
I also wiped before frf83
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http://android.clients.google.com/packages/passion/signed-passion-FRF85B-from-FRF83.f62ffd2b.zip
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I'm on frf83. Where is frf85b?
I also wiped before frf83
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I can just install via recovery on my rooted n1? Should I wipe?
my nexus has always been this way, even on 2.1. on fresh boot the full RAM is shown. then after a few days it goes down slowly. but if you kill all apps, you never reclaim all that RAM back. only a reboot brings it back. obviously over time background processes are slowly accumulating, ones that you cant see with any task manager. however my phone has never gone into critical slow down from this, meaning it ALWAYS can still keep around 100 mb free by killing stuff, even with this memory leak.
also, the browser in froyo has been updated so that it caches web pages now a lot more. so when you check the browser in system panel, it will show that its using sometimes 75mb of RAM. this isnt a memory leak, it is just caching pages now so that A) it doesnt have to refresh from the network, and B) so when you hit back button it doesnt always have to reload from the network.
this is an issue logged on the google forums, and some employees replied back that they made this change in froyo. check out the response.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2171
Hello,
I'm using the latest Google Maps version on my Nexus One. I regularly get a message saying "Memory is Low, Traffic is disabled".
This is quite odd because I quickly go into my memory manager and see that in this case (and 2 others since Sunday), there are about 210 MB of RAM available.
Anyone else experiencing this?
I'm seeing the same thing on my Evo running cyanogenmod 6.0. Sometimes it happens at all zoom levels, sometimes not all for several days. I can't pin it down. Restarting doesn't seem to help either, & I have the maps update from several days ago installed. I haven't tried flashing back to a Sense ROM, though.
I haven't seen much talk of the problem on google looking back several months.
Setting the VM heap size back to 24m fixed this for me on my N1 running CM6 final.
It's in Settings > CyanogenMod Settings > Performance Settings.
Thanks, dlee. I reduced the heap size from 32 & rebooted, but I still have the problem. Traffic is almost unusable. It will sometimes be ok for a minute, but once it happens the first time, it then happens again within seconds. I haven't tried flashing a nightly since I don't want to worry about backing up and redoing settings. I don't recall ever seeing this on a sense ROM, but I updated my google maps around the time I installed CM6. I'll try flashing back and checking again.
UPDATE: Same thing running Vaelpak sense ROM. Turning on the terrain layer seems to make it happen more quickly.
I've had some performance issue with my Optimus 2X for a while now. It really seems like a memory problem because let's say I unlock my phone, and just want to swipe the pages, it'll hang there for a couple seconds, then it will swipe the page in a very choppy way. But after a couple swipes (3-4), it becomes normal and fluid. This is just an exemple, often I'll try be doing something on my phone and it'll just take forever to load and it will end up saying "xxxx isn't responding, do you want to close it, WAIT, REPORT, OK". Then I just click wait and everything is fine for a little while.. another exemple: Just now I had my GF send me a text message, I click the txt box to reply and it took close to 10sec for my Swiftkey keyboard to show up.
I had been running CM7 for a while and recently decided I could try other Roms/Kernel and it might just help..A month or so ago I went in Paranoid Android, but if anything the phone was even slower.
Last week I went with CM10. At first the phone seemed more responsive but the more apps I reinstalled and the more widgets I put, it slowly became the same again.
I had some free time today and decided to investigate a little further. First a look in the System Tuner Pro app, I noticed my memory was almost full (<100mb left) right after a fresh reboot! There was about 250mb in use.. Then I looked in my "About Phone" page already and it says I have 342mb of memory! isn't this phone suposed to have 512mb?
Screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/nZNAh6U.png
Well I think this could explain a lot, but wtf is happening to my phone. I can't really tell when exactly the "being slow" started, it seems like it started gradually.
It's been a very frustrating phone in the last couple of months, I decided to end my contract as soon as can get my hand on a Note3, but until then I use my phone a lot.. and need it to work properly.
**edit** : Ok nevermind the 342mb, I searched the forum a little and found out the rest (170mb) is used by the Video Memory. Well, anyway, my phone is slow either way, so hopefully you guys have ideas that could help me, perhaps just tell me tools that could help me find the problem, anything...
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I've had some performance issue with my Optimus 2X for a while now. It really seems like a memory problem because let's say I unlock my phone, and just want to swipe the pages, it'll hang there for a couple seconds, then it will swipe the page in a very choppy way. But after a couple swipes (3-4), it becomes normal and fluid. This is just an exemple, often I'll try be doing something on my phone and it'll just take forever to load and it will end up saying "xxxx isn't responding, do you want to close it, WAIT, REPORT, OK". Then I just click wait and everything is fine for a little while.. another exemple: Just now I had my GF send me a text message, I click the txt box to reply and it took close to 10sec for my Swiftkey keyboard to show up.
I had been running CM7 for a while and recently decided I could try other Roms/Kernel and it might just help..A month or so ago I went in Paranoid Android, but if anything the phone was even slower.
Last week I went with CM10. At first the phone seemed more responsive but the more apps I reinstalled and the more widgets I put, it slowly became the same again.
I had some free time today and decided to investigate a little further. First a look in the System Tuner Pro app, I noticed my memory was almost full (<100mb left) right after a fresh reboot! There was about 250mb in use.. Then I looked in my "About Phone" page already and it says I have 342mb of memory! isn't this phone suposed to have 512mb?
Screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/nZNAh6U.png
Well I think this could explain a lot, but wtf is happening to my phone. I can't really tell when exactly the "being slow" started, it seems like it started gradually.
It's been a very frustrating phone in the last couple of months, I decided to end my contract as soon as can get my hand on a Note3, but until then I use my phone a lot.. and need it to work properly.
**edit** : Ok nevermind the 342mb, I searched the forum a little and found out the rest (170mb) is used by the Video Memory. Well, anyway, my phone is slow either way, so hopefully you guys have ideas that could help me, perhaps just tell me tools that could help me find the problem, anything...
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This is a common problem of our phone due to the low amount of ram, as you said, 512mb, they are simply not enough. Why do you think most recent phones come with 4 time bigger amount of ram (2gb)?
Man, to keep thus old phone responsive, you have to choose the best rom / kernel for you, and setup them for your needs, first find your favourite rom / kernel, I can suggest you what I personally use, therom cm10.2 by tonyp with kowalsky m1 with 32mb ramhack, for me is the best at the moment, but after all, it is a personal choice, there are a lot of good roms. Well, if you want more ram, so multitask, then you have to use a kernel with ramhack, at least 18% ram spended I'm zram, and something like value 60 of swappiness
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Also, I saw you have many notification of apps in your status bar.. This is a phone with a low amount of ram remember it. You seriously can't keep all this app installed, especially if they send you any kind of notification, because if they do it this means they take ram = less ram available = slow phone.
Listen to me. This will surely help you. If you don't still using it, you must try the app GREENIFY, it hibernate, means that if a app takes ram, it will no longer take it = free ram = fast phone!
But if you do it of course you will not receive any notification from it, but it's certainly worth it. What is the sense to multitasking from notification to notification if the switch takes 1 year to do?
For example I greenifyed Facebook, which I don't need in ram as I deactivated any notification service from the app but without GREENIFY it still suck like 45 mb of ram, while doing anything, with greenify it doesn't suck anything! Same thing for Google maps, YouTube, and all other apps that suck memory when I don't need them to, but sometimes I use them so I need to keep them installed, but anyway don't use so many apps that aren't indispensable keeped in ram, because they suck ram, and everything sucks ram sucks the general speed of the phone and a bit of battery remember it. My personal suggestion is when you see that a app that you won't greenify because you need its notification sucks much ram, like 15mb.. 20.. Etc, my suggestion is: unistall it, or if you won't to at least greenify it and use it only when you need to see the app itself, then when you're done greenify it again. and hey, saving ram means that you will save battery too. So speed + multitask + battery. What else?
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Yea it looks worse than it is. Out of the 6 icons on top, there's really just 3 that I use.
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
Lux autobrightness
Weather app
The 3 other icons were just
USB debugging cuz the phone was pluged
System tuner pro, was currently recording data so I could analyze my problem.
And the last app I was testing to monitor bandwitdth (turns out it did take to much resource)
Also earlier today I installed a memory manager app named Memory Booster, it did seem to help .. just a little.
But alright, I'll give Greenify a try as well.. it sounds good
edit: So far it looks very good, I've freed much more ram with this. But I accidently hide some apps, anyway to bring them back in the list?
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3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
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stock android data counter does the good job without using any 3rd party apps...
Greenify worked magic, it's night and day with my phone now, good catch.
Patbach said:
Yea it looks worse than it is. Out of the 6 icons on top, there's really just 3 that I use.
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
Lux autobrightness
Weather app
The 3 other icons were just
USB debugging cuz the phone was pluged
System tuner pro, was currently recording data so I could analyze my problem.
And the last app I was testing to monitor bandwitdth (turns out it did take to much resource)
Also earlier today I installed a memory manager app named Memory Booster, it did seem to help .. just a little.
But alright, I'll give Greenify a try as well.. it sounds good
edit: So far it looks very good, I've freed much more ram with this. But I accidently hide some apps, anyway to bring them back in the list?
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If you hide something, just press menu button - show all
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After 8 months google finally fix the memory leak in android lollipop. Thanks :crying::crying: Am I dreaming?
Having the memory load increasing is not, in itself, a memory leak.
The Nexus 5 comes with 2 Gb of RAM, the goal is not to have memory load below 300 mb in every case (or you can buy a 512 mb-RAM smartphone)
The leak is a bug in memory management which increase memory load without any limit, thus slowing the device and crashing it. I did not experience this under 5.1 with Franco and stock kernel.
I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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This is kind of interesting. I wonder if the system management is to blame or apps themselves.
jlmcr87 said:
I found a solution. If you change the kernel (for example Franco kernel) all problems are solved.
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did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
Issue stared and '+1 confirmed'.
Can someone mark the bug as critical?
jineshpatel30 said:
did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
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The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
i don t know if is due to the memory leak but after 3 days (fresh factory image flash) i m facing the annoying launcher redraw and high system memory usage:780 mb with 1,2 gb of peak
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The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
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I dont want to create a seperate thread so I am asking here. Got Nexus 5 a few days ago, started reading about 5.1 update and memory leak issue. Tried to update to 5.1 but gave up(usb driver issue). Today I noticed that ram usage for apps increases and does not drop down after shutting down apps (games mainly). System ram is constantly about 300-400 but app ram got from 300 to over 600 in about 6 hours. Is this also a memory leak or maybe apps just do not completely shut down?
Memory going up does not mean there is a memory leak, it means memory no longer in use has not yet been garbage collected which is fine.
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Isnt suppost Linux do same memory management with 2GB or 3GB of Ram?
Wich leads me to if KK,JB and ICS didnt had this memory leak problem how come this happens in LP?
That is one thing that I dont understand....
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Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
Simonna said:
Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
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exactly ! but ppl need to understand that what they need with phone.
i don't see any app that need more than 2GBs for ram on market plus multitasking is exceptional in N5 for me bcz i don't use tons of chatting apps who always runs and eats all resources of phone , i use heavy games and N5 still works great with highest graphics...and i bet none of Samsung or any other premium devices works with them as impressive as this 1.5yr old device still do ! so for me N5 is still more than enough
phone shouldn't be excessive better in specs than what you wants from phone. Bcz it does't make any sanse unless one have lots of money and he/she only want to waste it one way or another
I thought this was fixed at first. I picked up my phone this morning and went to check news and the whole thing was froze for like 5 seconds then starting working, but stuttering. Do I checked apps and low and behold I had about ten apps restarting, just like in the previous lollipop. Except this time I only see half my apps restarting (so far) instead of nearly all of them.
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My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
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sounds like almost my case
I've read several android blogs they claim damaging, HTC, ect have fixed the memory leak in their roms (although I heard people claim this in cm12 also). Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm this is true?
I tried loading and swiping CoC 5 times and my free Ram still remains at 1200.
My battery life has definitely gotten significantly worse after 5.1. Drained over 20% in just an hour with very light usage.
Hi guys,
I stumbled across the problem that my phone recently got slower and slower. I've done some research, which problems can cause my phone to be slowing down that much.
Eventually I discovered the phone's ram to be used to the limit. Most of the time, there were only round about 25 MB free ram, the rest (~825 MB) was already in use. I thought this to be my main problem.
I tried to fix this problem by installing a new rom. I installed liquid smooth from this Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-liquidsmooth-t3177000
Earlier I had Carbon installed (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-carbonrom-t3193493) with the same issue (high ram usage)
Anyway, after updating to a newer rom, deinstalling some apps, trying to get insight into the ram usage, I still didn't get my phone to be running smoothly.
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to get some more free ram so that starting a single app doesn't kill my whole os?
Or any other ideas how to get my phone to be running smoothly?
Best,
Blue
Blue696 said:
Hi guys,
I stumbled across the problem that my phone recently got slower and slower. I've done some research, which problems can cause my phone to be slowing down that much.
Eventually I discovered the phone's ram to be used to the limit. Most of the time, there were only round about 25 MB free ram, the rest (~825 MB) was already in use. I thought this to be my main problem.
I tried to fix this problem by installing a new rom. I installed liquid smooth from this Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-liquidsmooth-t3177000
Earlier I had Carbon installed (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-carbonrom-t3193493) with the same issue (high ram usage)
Anyway, after updating to a newer rom, deinstalling some apps, trying to get insight into the ram usage, I still didn't get my phone to be running smoothly.
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to get some more free ram so that starting a single app doesn't kill my whole os?
Or any other ideas how to get my phone to be running smoothly?
Best,
Blue
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Its normal for RAM to be used to max. Its how Android works. The phone closes apps to open new ones, etc,etc. Android makes the most of it, not like PC's.
i would look instead for something that could be using your CPU.
Blue696 said:
Hi guys,
I stumbled across the problem that my phone recently got slower and slower. I've done some research, which problems can cause my phone to be slowing down that much.
Eventually I discovered the phone's ram to be used to the limit. Most of the time, there were only round about 25 MB free ram, the rest (~825 MB) was already in use. I thought this to be my main problem.
I tried to fix this problem by installing a new rom. I installed liquid smooth from this Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-liquidsmooth-t3177000
Earlier I had Carbon installed (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-carbonrom-t3193493) with the same issue (high ram usage)
Anyway, after updating to a newer rom, deinstalling some apps, trying to get insight into the ram usage, I still didn't get my phone to be running smoothly.
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to get some more free ram so that starting a single app doesn't kill my whole os?
Or any other ideas how to get my phone to be running smoothly?
Best,
Blue
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Are you killing the apps you open or do you use the return key, clearing cache memory..