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At the point I am I need the help of experienced Users from the community.
I flashed a original HTC Wings (S730) with WM 6.1 ROM. It runs perfectly until I got a hardware problem (radio) . This is the reason I have to send it back to the official service.
Therefore I tried to go back to an official ROM from the http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WINGS_WM61_Alcaline
At first I flashed the earlier backuped Bootloder via sspl-0.91-wings.exe. This seems to be okay. But as I tried to flash an official ROM from the site mentioned above, during the flashing process I've got the note 'ERROR 294 Invalid vendor ID'. What was wrong? Did I forget any step?
Please, is there anyone who can describe the correct way back to 'warranty' for a newbie?
Thanx a lot.
have you tried all the ROM's? there is one prerelease and two release ROM's.. try both of the release roms, they might be for different production models/locations.
I tried both official released ROM's (signed as 'Ship'), not the prerelease version.
and if you first flash the shiped rom (with hardspl) and when done flash the back-up of the spl
With reference to an earlier statement of bigflavour in the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383617&page=17
I flashed back the original SPL at first.
Too bad It seems to be that I have a new problem now. Few minutes ago I have tried to reinstall hardSPL on the device via the well known sspl-0.91-wings.exe running on the Wings. But as I started the sspl, the device shows on the display that 'Access denied....is not digitally signed with a trusted certificate'.
Thereupon I thought I had to 'application_unlock' the device. After running the SDA_App...Unlock on my PC the display message shows succesful unlocking process. B U T, the sspl doesn't run as before.
Now, I'm totally confused. What has happened??
It's flavor, and unfortunately, I have no idea how to help you.
Probably tried the European english's spelling hehe.
Also This does seem like an odd problem, have you tried for kicks doing the factory reset to see if it will reset some of the registry and maybe fix your issues? I dont know anything about the spl's since I have no need to upgrade to 6.1, I wouldnt imagine it causing any more damage but again I dont know what all was done. I havnt followed those threads for a long time.
Thanx a lot. Apparently, the hint to make a hard reset hits the mark. Now I flashed back the HardSPL. So I'm back at the starting line . Does anyone knows if the official ROM from the http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index..._WM61_Alcaline is the latest one and can I use it for the warranty return?
Or should I look for an original German HTC ROM?
I was a little bit to fast. I will need a German ROM definitely, because the ROM from the Wiki doesn't include a the german language option.
Is there anyone who can help me with a original HTC S730 ROM for the german market?
Thank you in advance.
Hallo HSN,
if you give me a introduction how I backup my ROM, you can have my one. I own a German HTC S730. But I am confused when I read all threads about flashing etc....
One page introduction how to back up and you can have my one.
But I think that the Repair center here in Germany, doesn't care about the Rom you have installed.
Hey there,
since I'm new to the community I hope I'm not doing it wrong
I will receive my new Herald within the next days and now I'm seeking for all the stuff I will need then.
1. Hard-Spl. I don't get it. What is it? Is it some kind of firmware update or whatever? The ROM's thread says that I would need SPL 4 or later to successfully finish the Update but I can't find that SPL application in version 4+ :/
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437385 - http://www.evolvers.net/Herald_Roms/Version 7.7/ => I'd like to use that ROM. But I'm not too sure whether to use Manilla2D or Omnia.
3. What if I needed to send my device back for warranty reasons. Is there some way to flash back the standard Win Mobile 5.0?
I hope I will get your attention!
Regards,
Chris
Hey there,
A friend of mine just told me about flashing ROMs literally a few days ago. I did my first successful flash just yesterday and I am very happy that I did. FYI, yes I am using a stock TMobile Wing from 2007.
Rom's are not interchangeable across different phone models as far as I know. So you need to get ROMs made for the wing a.k.a. the Herald. Any Rom for the Herald should work.
Just remember one thing that I forgot to do, make sure that you back up your data. I forgot to do this and lost all of my data. Luckily, I did not have any pictures or music that I was too sad to lose. However, I did lose my contacts. Again luckily, I had an old Sim card from last year that had my contacts on it, so I was able to get back 90% of my phonebook, except for a few people that changed numbers or new contacts. So be sure to save anything you want to keep somewhere else.
I am pretty technically savvy, but I must say that flashing the Rom did take me several hours. The process itself only takes about 10 minutes, but it took hours to figure out what type of Rom I needed and how to exactly flash it. You will see many people trying to tell you that you need to know your IPL and SPL version, and there is no way to know this until you start flashing! It wasn't until I did my first accidental flash that it showed me this information, and this ended up being my first successful flash. After trying for several hours the night before and not succeeding, I guess that's why it slipped my mind that flashing successfully would erase all my data.
The one that actually worked for me was the Canonyang Rom. In the link below please look at post number 216, and you will see a link to download the ROM that worked for me. The file is "HardSpl_WM6".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332413&page=22
I tried to flash directly to open touch, and no matter what I tried it was not successful. When I accidentally tried this Canonyang flash it worked successfully the first time, and after that now I was able to flash to any other Rom.
I am currently running open touch light version 6.5 because I read in another thread that it's supposed to be the fastest. I don't need a lot of features so I'm happy with what it has, and it is much, much faster than the stock T-Mobile Rom.
Since you are now getting it, yes, warranty is an issue for you. I am very new to all this, but from what I gather, once you flash, it does void the warranty. Perhaps someone else can answer if there is a stock TMobile rom, that you can flash back to. However, since the roms are digitally signed, I'm not sure that by even doing that, if TMobile can tell you modded it, and therefore elect not to honor your warranty. I guess that's a risk you have to decide if it's worth it or not. IMHO, I found out about rom flashing this week, and my warranty was up last month. However, if I had found out about this during my warranty period, I would have still done it. The Tmobile stock rom is sooo slow, compared to these roms. If you've never used these roms, you'd think like hey, it's got some bugs, but it's not that bad. But if you've used them, you're never going back to stock rom again.
I apologize if there are any typos, as I am using voice to text recognition software that I am testing. I thought I'd help you out by writing this as well as I test it. Good luck and let us know if you have any questions, we're all here to help.
Hey,
thanks for all the information. Was very helpful. I decided to you the ROM from that link. Should work, shouldn't it?
The only thing I don't get is how to get to SPL4+ :/ I heared of different methods of SPLing. Like Hard SPL and USPL. Can you bring light into that cave?
Cheers.
Hey there,
Your link goes to the Open Touch thread. The link I'm referring to, is this one:
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
As I said, I was NOT able to flash directly from stock to OTP. I tried many methods, and Canonyang was the only one that worked for me. After I successfully flashed to CY, then I was able to flash to OTP without issue. But in theory yes, any Herald rom's should work fine.
In regards to IPL/SPL, my wing is from September 2007, and I had IPL/SPL both above 4. I had NO WAY to verify this before flashing. When I initiated the flash for CY, and the wing rebooted, it was THEN I saw my IPL/SPL versions. I'm sure yours will be at least v4.
Actually as I write this to you, I remember a critical step I forgot to tell you. You need to Application Unlock your device as well. This is probably what I was missing in my failed attempts. After I did that, then the CY flash worked. I got that information, from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356295
So I would suggest following the steps there first, then trying the link earlier to flash to CY, then flash to anything else. This is the procedure that worked for me. Good luck!
Hey there and thanks again for that bunch of information
itbmd said:
I'm sure yours will be at least v4.
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What does that mean then? I do not have to HardSPL my phone? But still, would you mind telling my step by step (And I really mean step by step^^) how to HardSPL a device? I really do not want to brick my phone directly at the beginning.
Oh and what should I rather be using, SoftSPL or HardSPL?
Cheers.
Hey there,
Sorry but I just flashed my device less than a week ago as I mentioned. I don't have many of the answers you ask, because I'm asking them myself. I don't know the diff between Hard vs. Soft SPL.
The file I linked you to earlier, is a hardspl, as denoted by its filename "HardSpl_WM6". It hardspl flashes to the canonyang rom. It was then I saw the IPL/SPL versions, and then was able to flash to other roms.
FYI, I was concerned about bricking my device as well. But during the roughly 5 hours I was trying to flash it correctly, every time the flash failed, it did NOT brick. It just errored on the pc, and the Wing itself just restarted and went back to the stock TMobile rom. It never actually bricked. Make sure you do the application unlock though; I think that's a step that people may not do and could cause it to brick. Good luck.
Hello out there.....
First of all i have to say THX to all these people which are really willing to help every1 with their great tutorials. Ive used alot of them already. Thanks.
And i have to say sorry for my english language, due Im german and i left school behind long time ago. I'm really taken pains to write this comment.
Now, in my case ive tried to restore my device (Xperia X1i) to OEM status step by step as its shown in this thread.
My worst issue is that my touchscreen aint work anymore after i flashed a custom ROM and that i got stock at the point where the ROM wants to configure the OS like "Tap the screen to continue with configuration".
Ive tried to flash way too much ROMs using HardSPL but the touchscreen wont let me do anything - no reaction.
So how can I restore the bootloader (SPL) on my device, when my touchscreen aint work? How can I take the following step without any working ROM ?
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12. Run SSPL.KAIS.exe from your phone (make sure you do this on your actual device and not your PC)
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I do not know what I did wrong, that the screen wont react anymore, but im sure that the SPL is the cause for this disaster.
I'm really desperate couz i already have sent the device to the SE Support, where they told me that there is an "extraneous" on my device although ive flashed the Stock ROM firstly... there was still something that bothered them...
After i got the device back the touchscreen worked again as funny, allthough the support did nothing on the device as they said in the delivery.
A bit skeptical but with alot of happiness i kept on flashing some ROMs after that.
Now, after i found a good ROM and kept this one on my device for some days the screen doesnt work again.....
This is what my bootloader says right now
Code:
KOVS110
SPL-0.72.OliNex
MicroP1-787
MicroP2-707
....seems like the HardSPL is still there......
Honistly i had to apollogize (maybe too late) that this part of using a cellphone (flashing a ROM using HardSPL etc.) is a big fish and that ive underrated it. Now i have a 400$-Device which aint work anymore
Ive read like all Tutorials here at xda-devs containing something about flashing a ROM or informations about SPLs; tried everything
I feel like im lost and fu**ed right now....
Is there any1 can help me with my problem?
Hopefully there is.....i pray for him
first flash a stock rom
then just run the hard-spl exe, and replace the ruu_signed.nbh file
why are you trying to use kaiser spl?
use the things found in the hardspl sticky in the xperia section
Wrong Tutorial
You're using tutorial for wrong device (HTC Kaiser)
The correct tutorial is in first post (extra how to: how to restore Stock SPL for warranty reasons.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431218
But before restoring original hardspl you should flash with original rom found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482
wow thanks for your answers !!
i never thought ill get response.
Its really weird that i havnt found that tut before bcuz i was looking through whole board.
I will try do that tomorrow.
I hope that it will work then. Don't wanna pay 300$ for a new device
Else there is mtty to restore the bootloader
Aight i have done the steps showing in the tutorial.
1. I have flashed teh Stock ROM (R2A german - Vodafone)
2. I've used the RUU with the stockSPL given in that post.
Now my tricolour screen shows the following
Code:
KOVS110
SPL-0.72.0000
MicroP1-787
MicroP2-707
This is what it shall looks like OliNex said.
I hope this is all i had to do, to make use of my device's guarantee, cuz the touchscreen still doesnt work
Seems like i really have to send my Xperia to the Support again (now hopefully with a ROM + SPL they wont reject)
But if i send my device with "extraneous" again i have to pay another 15€ just for let them do a costs estimate -.-
I would like to get a reply before i make use of the support again.
Thanks for all your help
Glad to hear recovering to stock rom + spl worked out.
Your touchscreen doesn't work when you have booted up windows?
If that's correct then I suggest to send in the device for service. Although
it might not help I suggest updating your device with SE updating service (SEUS) first.
After the flash remove the battery for 10 seconds, then turn it on.
Hope it helps and otherwise servicing the device is free of charges
Haha!
That's what im doing right now, using SEUS
Thanks for the tip with the battery but i already tried that way too often
Edit:
Ok, touchscreen still aint work....
Time to contact the support...at 11:45 PM **WOOT
nvm....Ill wait till tomorrow
gn8 and thanks for helping me with my issue ^^
a few days ago I returned my silver X1 for the same issue, my touch screen (digitizer) doesn't work. Then right in front of SE support person, he justed took out the battery and rebooted. Then it worked. The thing is, I did the same thing several times earlier that day and it did NOT worked. I am worrying of getting the same problem again and I only have until november 30th until my 1 year warranty expires. I haven't tried any cooked roms and it is because of warranty purpose. Altough I'm not new to custom roms since I own an Alpine and a Prophet. I've been here for some time now.
The thing that holds me back testing cooked roms on my Xperia is the aftermath if in case my device goes half-dead. I almost always read the restoring on to official roms everytime I get here, but still the thousand dollar spent on my phone's tag price comes with a fear of who's gonna rescue if my phone won't work. And to add that spare parts aren't available here as of the moment. And yes I'm eager and very curious about almost everyone saying cooked 6.5 is faster than stock roms but though I haven't tested it I have to disagree for now on my case basis.
First, my Xperia doesn't come with a carrier lock. It's locally called "open line" in my country I guess technically called debranding. Then my phone has the generic r3a rom via seus I think it's generic uk. Lastly, for some reasons, the touchflo 3d doesn't work with my device I've tried it since r1 firmware time. Some response told me to unlock-debrand my phone first but I dont have to since it isn't locked. Still installing tf3d makes my phone hang, doesn't uninstall, doesn't show in the themes list if installed as a theme, and doesn't let me have another panel since it always stay as tf3d whenever I choose another one. And it is very unstable in my device. These happened even if I install it as a panel.
I feel handsets here are faster than handsets that are locked by a carrier so I'm thinking again since for now, my Xperia works for me as stock as it is.
Hi,
My experience today is the motive of me writing this guide to help most of you out of this problem and eliminate the Fear that you will have of you blackstone might gone bad (hardware fault).
ok,
here is what happend to me today.
I had XannyTech Rom flashed on my phone and i really felt i found something interesting about another ROM so i decided to flash that one.
after a smooth flashing, the phone booted and i started syncing using myphone.
left the phone on the desk for a while, came back and found that the device is not responding to the power button, poked that red button and the phone get's stuck at the "smart mobility" screen!!
Hard resetted the phone and started over, again the phone hanged.
i thought that it's maybe a bad flash! so i downloaded the file again and flashed again.
still the same!!!!
decided to go to the old ROM ,
still after a while i get the same result!
notice that i hard resetted after each and every flash!
so what did i do?
[Guide]
Hard Reset the phone, check if it's a software you installed or if it happens even on a pure ROM.
If the problem still exist, Confirm it's not a bad flash! flash again the same ROM.
If you still have the same symtoms, go to HTC website and download the latest OFFICIAL ROM from there.
Run the RUU from your pc (Don't worry about HSPL, it's protected so you will NOT have to HSPL your device again, Thanks olinex)
Test your phone with the new official ROM (in my case -blackstone- it's a 6.1 rom ). Mostly everything will be back to normal.
flash the rom of your choice.
I don't have a real explaination about this (maybe someone with more experience can do) but it works! and even the ROM works faster .
Hope you find this usefull.
Regards,
Adel
I will remember this if it happens to me!
Thank you!
For me, with the HSPL, when I went back to original rom, I had a big problem with color. I flashed to old SPL too, and so, color where good after
Wiki
Not a huge problem, it's well documented
Understanding 1.56 Roms (Greenscreen issue & Flashing)
edit : oops, the link is accessable from the wiki
re the topic:
Looks like Viagra cant fix this issue then
anaadoul said:
Not a huge problem, it's well documented
Understanding 1.56 Roms (Greenscreen issue & Flashing)
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Hi
You should fix your link and put wiki instead if forum
Jal84 said:
Hi
You should fix your link and put wiki instead if forum
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it is good to see that you have followed the link
anaadoul said:
I don't have a real explaination about this (maybe someone with more experience can do) but it works! and even the ROM works faster .
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Well, I am not sure, but it seems that Official ROMs not only flash your phone, but also "format" it.
You may want to have a look at this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540290) for more references, but the fact is that "flashing" means issuing some commands to the phone. These commands are all about uploading the ROM data in the appropriate section of the NVRAM/EEPROM (I am not an expert, but I think I am more or less near to reality with such a description).
In the Official ROM's case, more commands are issued and some of these commands "clean" completely your phone, making route for a clean installation and a good one.
I don't know (I am not a cooker, nor an expert) why cookers can't or won't issue those commands in their ROMs, but soon after flashing an official one, you have a "clean" phone that is not affected by random behaviour, due properly to the commands that only official one's issues during the flash.
Hope this may help
Regards
Ehol
Ehol said:
Well, I am not sure, but it seems that Official ROMs not only flash your phone, but also "format" it.
You may want to have a look at this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540290) for more references, but the fact is that "flashing" means issuing some commands to the phone. These commands are all about uploading the ROM data in the appropriate section of the NVRAM/EEPROM (I am not an expert, but I think I am more or less near to reality with such a description).
In the Official ROM's case, more commands are issued and some of these commands "clean" completely your phone, making route for a clean installation and a good one.
I don't know (I am not a cooker, nor an expert) why cookers can't or won't issue those commands in their ROMs, but soon after flashing an official one, you have a "clean" phone that is not affected by random behaviour, due properly to the commands that only official one's issues during the flash.
Hope this may help
Regards
Ehol
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Good explaination!
also while i was extracting a shiped ROM i got an unknown nb file which might be responsible for this?
what you have said means that as long as you are flashing a larger sized ROM you should have no problem, but once the new ROM have a smaller size then you will face some issues?!
oh, one more thing.
after formating the phone with the stock ROM, i noticed that it runs much faster (around 15% performance increase) can anyone try flashing shipped ROM then the same one he was using and confirm this?
I am trying to get the cool 4 shortcut buttons and was directed to something called Cookies Home Tab. I installed it but no program showed up.
I would then try and uninstall it an install it again with sense deactivated, but when choosing uninstall on the program (which shows up on the "remove program" menu, but not in the start menu) the "busy-cursor" is just rotating and nothing happens. I tried powering off and try again, and the same thing happens: It says its uninstalling, but it takes forever and nothing happends.
Can someone help? How do I get the program properly installed. I am running a danish original rom and assumed it would be compatible when directed there. I am not sure where to find my sense version. Can it be that its 2.16xxxxx or is that windows?
came99 said:
I am trying to get the cool 4 shortcut buttons and was directed to something called Cookies Home Tab. I installed it but no program showed up.
I would then try and uninstall it an install it again with sense deactivated, but when choosing uninstall on the program (which shows up on the "remove program" menu, but not in the start menu) the "busy-cursor" is just rotating and nothing happens. I tried powering off and try again, and the same thing happens: It says its uninstalling, but it takes forever and nothing happends.
Can someone help? How do I get the program properly installed. I am running a danish original rom and assumed it would be compatible when directed there. I am not sure where to find my sense version. Can it be that its 2.16xxxxx or is that windows?
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If you cannot find your manila version, or at least search on how to find it, you really need to learn more before you mess up your phone.
I assume you did a hard reset after your registry issue. If not I suggest you do as you will probably have to do it a few times as you attempt to customize your device.
Your manila version can be found in Settings\Device Info\Software Info.
Read the thread on Cookies Home tab for compatable versions and install instructions. Post your questions there.
p.s. Thanks for implying...
I am really sorry for sounding like a total noob, but I DID read the post, installation instructions and whats not. I also read the "how to find your manila version" which also said to go to settings tab - device info - software info. The thing is that its danish on my phone and I cant find anything called device info on my tab, only "about" which leads me to a webpage with a lot of copyright and legal mumble jumble.
When going to settings - advanced - about the device I get a tab called version, where it says Rom Version 2.16.403.1 (67041) dan. But I dont know if thats it.
But lord, how many original stock roms can there be? Its a pretty new phone and I installed every HTC update available to me. I must say that configuring this little diamond seems to take a rocket scientist or above. I can use a computer pretty well, but getting a little modifications to the HTC UI seems to take a phd
You seem like a nice guy, and I would like to learn. Maybe you can help me out so I dont have to ask so many noobish questions. I really tried to learn by myself but it is a new world to me and it is quite overwhelming.
1) I read that installing a rom is ireversible. Does that really mean that I under no circumstances can replace the original software? Is a cooked rom really a whole other OS and replace windows mobile 6.5 completely? Or is it just a modified windows?
2) What is the distinction between HTC Sense, Touch Flo and Manila, if any? As far as I read the black and white icons is manila and the colored ones is sense... Is that true? And does that mean that I cant use any programs that needs manila to run if I have the HTC Ui with the colored icons?
I hope the above questions helps me to a basic understanding, so I further on dont have to ask so many questions.
PS) after installing TD2 tools my screen rotation line in my system registry came back, and I got rid of the landscape.. Thats one problem solved. Call recording aswell. If I find a way to get these 4 shortcut-buttons available and set one of them to my to-do list I think Im done.. No more tampering.. I promise.
came99 said:
1) What exactly is the difference between installing Cookies Home tab and installing another rom? As I understand it, a rom is a whole other OS, where this software only is a skin? Correct?
Correct, The ROM is the whole OS, where CHT is a modification to the Sense (Manila) UI.
2) I read that installing a rom is ireversible. Does that really mean that I under no circumstances can replace the original software?
No, You must first install hard SPL to be able to flash a cooked(custom) ROM.
Once you install HSPL, your device is considered "out of warranty".
However you can reflash a Stock ROM and then reflash Stock SPL to return the phone to the factory state for warranty purposes. So it can be reverted.
3) What is the distinction between HTC Sense and Manila, if any?
They are one and the same, also referred to as Touch Flo 3D (TF3D)
4) The original question about getting Cookie to work, if someone feels like helping.
If you have installed Cookie's Home Tab and soft reset, when you are on your home screen you should see the flip clock (assuming that in Settings\System\Home\Items is set to HTC Sense), on top right of that is a little dash, this opens up additional panels for your shortcuts.
There should also be a new program possibly in settings or \Programs\Tools called CHTEditor to access your tab settings.
I suspect that it installed, you just didn't know how to access it.
Lemme know.
PS) after installing TD2 tools my screen rotation line in my system registry came back, and I got rid of the landscape.. Thats one problem solved. Call recording aswell. If I find a way to get these 4 shortcut-buttons available I think Im done.. No more tampering.. I promise.
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See above for answers. One quick word of advice; If the program interfaces with your today screen, phone functions, etc. install to device memory and never to Storage Card. Programs that just tweak the registry and settings can be installed to SD card.
Uhm, and I wouldn't be promising anything because its addicting. Once you pop, you can't stop!
Sorry.. I edited my post while you were answering. I found the preguide to roms which was just about basic enough to enlighten me. Your answers helped a lot to, and everything fell into place.
I do think that I will stay away from flashing as it seems like risky business.. The option to hard-reset without to much hassle seems like the emergency brake I like available to me
At the moment I am trying to reinstall Cookies Home Tab, but the installation just hangs.. Probably because it wasnt uninstalled correctly. Any tips other than Hard Resetting which means several hours of setup
Edit: Ahh f... it.. I may aswell do it.. All the tampering made my phone slow anyway.. Now I know what I need and can get it to work without too much experimenting..
Thanks dude.
I did some research on your stock ROM and it looks like you are running Manila 2.1 which is the older version so many tweaks you are attempting may be for 2.5.
You would be better off changing ROMs.
Here is a download of our stock ROM for warranty purposes, keep it just in case. You may have to register for the site, but you may also find a nice cooked ROM in your language on that site. Dutty is a great chef and I use his ROMs because of their stability.
I can attempt to walk you through HSPL, but there have been many issues lately. Almost seems like the only way to get it to work is to "donate" to the developer.
Okay Mr Dope Pusher.. i see where you are going.. Telling me to stay away from these sheningans and 1 hour later you got me hooked anyway
Jokes aside.. Yes.. I Do think I am gonna need some help here.. While the stock backup rom is downloading I will try and find out for myself, but I would very much like some confirmation on what to do before I take the leap.. Stay tuned and thank you very much.. Your help is very appriciated.
I have a question though.. Now I downloaded the stock rom, but what if my phone breaks when Duttys Rom is installed.. Then I wont be able to reinstall the original rom before sending it in for repair. And then Im screwed warranty wise, right?
..., in anticipation of your next question;
As long as you have over 50% battery and do not interupt the flash (unplug the USB) there are very few chances of it bricking.
I have never had it happen and most errors are correctable with a hard reset. It really sounds worse than it is.
Most devices get bricked because the user attempts to flash a cooked ROM w/o HSPL or a ROM or radio from another device.
I have attached 3 files.
Do the following after you download these files;
1. Remove your SIM and SD card.
2. Sync your device to your PC through Active Sync or WMDC depending on your windows version.
2. Copy the enablenewrapi.cab to your device through file explorer and install
to device memory.
3. Open both the SPL 1.83 and the RUU zip files and place contents of both into a new folder.
4. Run the RUU.exe and you should see a progress screen appear.
5. With any luck, you won't get stuck at 0% and the flash will complete.
As the screen states, it may take up to 10 minutes. You will see your device disconnect from active sync, which is normal. Let it run until it completes and do not open anything or let your PC go into standby. Also, you may want to disable your AV and any firewalls as these can mess with the installation.
Make sure you have greater than 50% battery before you attempt this as any interuption during the flashing process can brick your device.
If the steps above complete, you can go into bootloader mode by holding down both volume keys right after you hit the soft reset buton, but before the device begins to boot. You may have to try a couple of times if you are not fast enough. Or you can power off the device then hold both volume keys and press the power button. In bootloader mode which is a tri colored screen, you should see SPL: 1.83.Olinex, then you will know it has installed correctly.
From this point, you are able to flash any cooked Topaz ROM.
The ROM flashing process is the same as HSPL in regards to placing the ROM's .nbh file into the same folder as the custom RUU.exe, so keep that RUU.exe file for future use.
You need only flash HSPL once to continue to flash as many ROMS as you like.
If you ever have to revert to stock, you would install the ROM you downloaded, then find the StockSPL file from the HSPL thread and follow the instructions.
Always hard reset after you flash a new ROM.
**If you are not successful in flashing HSPL, you will need to go to the HSPL thread and read up on opening a ticket with HTC Support, which will give you an autoinstaller that will work once you donate through the program. I believe they are asking for 4gbp.
Ok.. And one of the above files is the Dutty Rom? Edit: Oh I se.. It isnt.. I will download it then..
Will it look and feel similar to Sense, just with more features and customisation options?
You write: Most devices get bricked because the user attempts to flash a cooked ROM w/o HSPL or a ROM or radio from another device.
Can you please elaborate? I understand it like you need to make sure I install the hspl first before cooking, but "radio" from another device. Please explain it for a dummy as me, so I dont attempt to do it by accident.
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Ok.. And one of the above files is the Dutty Rom? Is it available in danish as is, or do I have to do something.
Will it look and feel similar to Sense, just with more features and customization options?
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No, I have not provided you with a ROM, just the HSPL unlocker.
You can go to HTCPedia and search for a Danish ROM with manila 2.5, or take a look through the ROM development thread and find one from another chef. It should have Sense installed but 2.5 unless it states otherwise. 2.5 has more features and functions and is the most current.
Many ROMs are multilanguage so I believe you select your region language when the ROM first loads. Just look for one that supports DAN. I use WWE (World Wide English) so I am not experienced with multilanguage variations.
Just make sure your HSPL is successful before you attempt to flash a ROM.
If you search hard enough you may even find a ROM with CHT cooked in which will alleviate you from having to install it yourself, but I suspect that your previous install didn't work because your on Sense 2.1
I have never used CHT, but use Max Manila Themes which is just a different mod, but I am thinking about trying CHT.
I'll take a look and see what I can find.
Regarding Radios;
A stock ROM comes with the OS and Radio ROM.
Most cooked ROMs take just the OS and tweak it for best performance, adding programs, removing other useless programs and do not include the radio ROM, therefore you will still have your stock Radio unless you flash a cooked ROM that has included the radio (usually denoted in the title of the ROM by the radio#, i.e. 4.49.25.57 (which is a Topaz radio version)
The only time you can brick is you attempt to install a radio from another device (sometimes they work better) such as a Blackstone radio to a Topaz device unless your SIM is unlocked or attempting to flash a Topaz radio w/o HSPL.
Personally, there are enough Topaz radios posted in the radio thread that I don't need my SIM unlocked to try others.
Symptoms of a problem radio are poor signal strength, rapid battery loss and your device heating up.
I have switched my radio ROM a few times but honestly haven't noticed a difference from my stock radio.
The stock ROM you downloaded would replace your Stock Radio if you happen to flash to a different one.
Your region and carrier are also a factor in choosing a radio, so again, just stick to stock unless you have issues.
Dude.. That radio thingie made me EXTREMELY paranoid and I see that there is dozens of different roms from dutty and thousands of rom in general where many of them seems to come with radio-thingies... I am extremely afraid of choosing something that will brick my system, so please, please help me through this, even though you already have been extremely helpful.
If I were on my own, I would go with this:
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_topaz_wm_leo_r_rtm_e11d19c3e22de899a/soft/htc-topaz-rom.html
But to be honest I dont know if it will work on my device or if I will be able to get it with a danish language pack..
Please help me choose the right one.... I am ready to rock, so I hope for a quick reply, and I promise I will do a extra good deed tomorrow to repay the world for all the help you gave me tonight.
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Dude.. That radio thingie made me ETREMELY paranoid and I see that there is dozens of different roms from dutty and thousands of rom aswell where many of them seems to come with radio-thingies... I am extremely afraid of choosing something that will brick my system, so please, please help me through this, even though you already have been extremely helpful.
If I were on my own, I would go with this:
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_topaz_wm_leo_r_rtm_e11d19c3e22de899a/soft/htc-topaz-rom.html
But to be honest I dont know if it will work on my device or if I will be able to get it with a danish language pack..
Please help me choose the right one.... I am ready to rock, so I hope for a quick reply.
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Don't sweat it Bro, if its posted as a Topaz ROM then its got the Topaz Radio, the only thing you risk is not being able to connect to certain 3G bands.
I've used Dutty's R-8 and its not a bad ROM, but its a little outdated and I didn't see that it had multi language support.
I am really having a hard time locating a Danish language ROM.
I find FRE. GER, ITA, ESN, NLD, WWE, but no DAN????
"I am really having a hard time locating a Danish language ROM.
I find FRE. GER, ITA, ESN, NLD, WWE, but no DAN????"
Then it aint just me being total clueless.. I cant find any either..
Im bafled by this world.. I basically have two modest demands: To record calls in mp3 and get easy access to my to-do list.. preferably on my homescreen, but just as good by one of the nifty Hotbuttons Ive seen in pictures..
To get those two modest demands fulfilled I either:
- Need to give up on my danish interface and crack my phone beyond warranty and a chance of bricking it.
- Disable HTC sense and go with WM interface
I know how limited I would be with any other phone, but this road I got myself on is really amazing
came99 said:
"I am really having a hard time locating a Danish language ROM.
I find FRE. GER, ITA, ESN, NLD, WWE, but no DAN????"
Then it aint just me being total clueless.. I cant find any either..
Im bafled by this world.. I basically have two modest demands: To record calls in mp3 and get easy access to my to-do list.. preferably on my homescreen, but just as good by one of the nifty Hotbuttons Ive seen in pictures..
To get those two modest demands fulfilled I either:
- Need to give up on my danish interface and crack my phone beyond warranty and a chance of bricking it.
- Disable HTC sense and go with WM interface
I know how limited I would be with any other phone, but this road I got myself on is really amazing
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I found some Danish support threads, just search Danish Topaz in XDA and you may find something to load over a WWE rom.
Personnaly I think you will be disappointed if you do not take the plunge.
I had a Rhodium before my Topaz and once I go tmy Topaz, I couldn't stand it. It wouldn't do half the **** my Rhodium did. Because I had my Rhodium flashed to custom.
Finally HSPL was released and I flashed it immediately and can't believe I ever liked that other brick of a phone.
Take your time, get comfy with the process first, and read lots on the language packs.
The brick warning is just a disclaimer and it is very difficult to achieve if you follow the steps correctly.
I know these are expensive toys to take a chance on, but they really are only at 50% capacity out of the box. What a waste....
Bruce, dude, you're a saint. This is why so many folks look to xda for help. You should be commended, but probably won't be! You got my vote.
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Bruce, dude, you're a saint. This is why so many folks look to xda for help. You should be commended, but probably won't be! You got my vote.
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Thanks JD!
Is that commended or condemed???
Just trying to give a little back.
Greetz from SoCal.
I agree.. The helpfulnes here has been overwhelming, and has given me the bravery to try this out. But I am still very nervous.
Let me sum up what I learned from tonight.
1) When following your instructions I will have a phone which I can modify with custom roms.
2) As long as I am 100 % sure the rom is for Topaz I dont have to worry about messing up and bricking my phone due to doing wrong stuff to the radio-thingie? (yes, I still dont understand what that is)
3) I will be able to get back to factory defaults and warranty by installing the official rom you linked and afterwards install the original spl thingie afterwards?
4) Should I mess up and brick my phone, there is a fair chance of being able to restore it by the help of another device and a micro SD-card? (See I DO try and learn myself.. (Its probably incorrect though ))
5) I need to give up on the danish interface, but I will without too much hassle be able to get a danish keyboard?
6) To be absolutely sure not choosing a wrong ROM, please confirm this one as a possible choice: "Duttys Topaz HG R10 [5.2.23541.5.5.0]"
It is downloading and I am ready to take the leap... Geronimoooo!
came99 said:
I agree.. The helpfulnes here has been overwhelming, and has given me the bravery to try this out. But I am still very nervous.
Let me sum up what I learned from tonight.
1) When following your instructions I will have a phone which I can modify with custom roms.
Yes
2) As long as I am 100 % sure the rom is for Topaz I dont have to worry about messing up and bricking my phone due to doing wrong stuff to the radio-thingie? (yes, I still dont understand what that is)
Radio controls cell signal, GPS and WiFi connections.
3) I will be able to get back to factory defaults and warranty by installing the official rom you linked and afterwards install the original spl thingie afterwards?
Yes
4) Should I mess up and brick my phone, there is a fair chance of being able to restore it by the help of another device and a micro SD-card? (See I DO try and learn myself.. (Its probably incorrect though ))
Exactly.
5) I need to give up on the danish interface, but I will without too much hassle be able to get a danish keyboard?
Bingo!
6) To be absolutely sure not choosing a wrong ROM, please confirm this one as a possible choice: "Duttys Topaz HG R10 [5.2.23541.5.5.0]"
That's the one I am currently running. Great ROM!
It is downloading and I am ready to take the leap... Geronimoooo!
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I'm usually not on the forum as much on the weekends but if you get stuck, shoot me a PM which will notify my e-mail and I'll see if I can help.
I take it you were successful with HSPL? If so, thats most of the battle!
Peace!
"5. With any luck, you won't get stuck at 0% and the flash will complete."
Well... Guess what...
Can someone please help.. Im stucked here and having a stroke.
Edit: Tried on 2 different computers and its the same: Stuck on 0 %.. Antivirus disabled.