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ok so i was getting ready to flash newvision v3 by jac and drizzy...so i went to bootloader....wiped my ext3 and then wiped my phone... then i did a nandroid backup and I flashed... then restored it...after that its on the g1 screen and i havent tried recovery yet and i just realized that since i wiped before nandroid it didnt really backup anything...what should i do???just reflash if recovery works???
Noobyflasher said:
ok so i was getting ready to flash newvision v3 by jac and drizzy...so i went to bootloader....wiped my ext3 and then wiped my phone... then i did a nandroid backup and I flashed... then restored it...after that its on the g1 screen and i havent tried recovery yet and i just realized that since i wiped before nandroid it didnt really backup anything...what should i do???just reflash if recovery works???
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Yeah, you confused your steps a little. Seeing that you did a nandroid after all of the wiping, you essentially just made a backup of your boot, data, recovery, and system images but your cache image is not gonna contain much because you wiped I'm pretty sure. If you flashed your new ROM, you can't flash your nandroid backup as that will take you back to your old ROM. Nandroid isn't a back up tool in the way you want to you use (settings, preferences etc) It is a tool that will restore your system in case you mess something up. If you want the new drizzy JAC build, you just flash that and leave your nandroid for a rainy day or if you screw up a flash and get a bootloop.
I have been browsing google for an answer to this problem but nothing I have found has seemed to help, so I suppose I'll ask and see if anyone else has had this problem had knows what to do.
I try to run a nandroid backup from cyanogen's recovery, it simply keeps making dots and will easily fill up a screen.
Furthermore, i try and do a "nandroid-mobile.sh -b" and it hangs on the data.img part for in excess of 20 minutes.
Any ideas what I can try to get nandroid to work again? It has failed to work both on the last version of SuperD and on the newest which I updated last night (1.11?)
I suppose I could try a full wipe and reinstall, but I haven't donated for the full Titanium backup yet... and restoring is a pain until I do that.
Is there anything besides a wipe that I could try?
Thanks
Tylerspilker said:
I have been browsing google for an answer to this problem but nothing I have found has seemed to help, so I suppose I'll ask and see if anyone else has had this problem had knows what to do.
I try to run a nandroid backup from cyanogen's recovery, it simply keeps making dots and will easily fill up a screen.
Furthermore, i try and do a "nandroid-mobile.sh -b" and it hangs on the data.img part for in excess of 20 minutes.
Any ideas what I can try to get nandroid to work again? It has failed to work both on the last version of SuperD and on the newest which I updated last night (1.11?)
I suppose I could try a full wipe and reinstall, but I haven't donated for the full Titanium backup yet... and restoring is a pain until I do that.
Is there anything besides a wipe that I could try?
Thanks
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I have the same issue using Amon Ra's recovery with Nandroid.
I end up pulling the battery and rebooting.
Take a look in your Nandroid backup folder on your SD card....you will see files that are several GB in size.
The nandroid appears to get stuck in a loop.
I have not had a successful nandroid backup made since CM-Recovery. I might go back to it but Amon Ra has a lot more stuff.
I reverted over to Amon Ra recovery from the JF+ Cyan one, and did a full wipe and restore of everything and nandroid was working well after.
Not sure what happened, but its all peachy now. I donated to Titanium backup, and it is the best app I have used... makes me want to switch Roms daily now!
Tylerspilker said:
I reverted over to Amon Ra recovery from the JF+ Cyan one, and did a full wipe and restore of everything and nandroid was working well after.
Not sure what happened, but its all peachy now. I donated to Titanium backup, and it is the best app I have used... makes me want to switch Roms daily now!
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Which Amon_Ra? I had the same issue on 1.5.x and 1.6.2.
Still no joy on nandroid or BART.
Will this option on the main screen format the internal SD? I don't want to lose all my data.
I can't seem to get nandroid to ever properly restore. I have a backup of CM6/1, and restoring it from a clean JH2 install soft bricked my phone. Odin'd back to JH2. I just didn't know what to do, so I ask my cousin, who has an N1. He says before retoring backups you have to do Wipe Data/Factory Reset option in Clockwork. I know it doesn't wipe your SD, but since Captivate's is internal will it wipe all my user data, like photos and music?
Also any advice on nandroid?
EDIT: Also it seems nandroid doesn't restore kernel. Because when i go from JH2 to CM6.1, the kernels splash screen at boot remains AT&T where it gets stuck and never boots, when it should be the i900 splash screen.
Haloruler64 said:
Will this option on the main screen format the internal SD? I don't want to lose all my data.
I can't seem to get nandroid to ever properly restore. I have a backup of CM6/1, and restoring it from a clean JH2 install soft bricked my phone. Odin'd back to JH2. I just didn't know what to do, so I ask my cousin, who has an N1. He says before retoring backups you have to do Wipe Data/Factory Reset option in Clockwork. I know it doesn't wipe your SD, but since Captivate's is internal will it wipe all my user data, like photos and music?
Also any advice on nandroid?
EDIT: Also it seems nandroid doesn't restore kernel. Because when i go from JH2 to CM6.1, the kernels splash screen at boot remains AT&T where it gets stuck and never boots, when it should be the i900 splash screen.
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The only good way for Nandroid to help you is if you have your Nandroid backup stored somewhere other than IntSD.
If you are on a different kernel or modem, my suggestion is to flash stock, master clear, flash the cognition version that the nandroid was based on, then restore your nandroid backup.
daverup said:
The only good way for Nandroid to help you is if you have your Nandroid backup stored somewhere other than IntSD.
If you are on a different kernel or modem, my suggestion is to flash stock, master clear, flash the cognition version that the nandroid was based on, then restore your nandroid backup.
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So I'd have to flash stock, flash Cog, flash CM, then restore backup? Wow... N1 is dead simple, just wipe data and restore.
Any idea what Wipe Data/Factory Restore option in CMW actually means in terms of affecting Internal SD?
Also how do you restore from a backup on extSD?
Haloruler64 said:
So I'd have to flash stock, flash Cog, flash CM, then restore backup? Wow... N1 is dead simple, just wipe data and restore.
Any idea what Wipe Data/Factory Restore option in CMW actually means in terms of affecting Internal SD?
Also how do you restore from a backup on extSD?
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I think the wipe data in cw refers to phone memory. I don't think I remember that ever affecting IntSD.
The backup in the clockworkmod dir can be moved back and forth and still work. I just copy the whole clockworkmod dir off of the IntSD to the Ext SD, moving it back as needed.
Flashing CWM is really overcomplicating things. If you have the CW 1.7mb update.zip file in the root of your IntSD, and can boot recovery. Then you can re-install packages and CWM will run.
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I think the wipe data in cw refers to phone memory. I don't think I remember that ever affecting IntSD.
The backup in the clockworkmod dir can be moved back and forth and still work. I just copy the whole clockworkmod dir off of the IntSD to the Ext SD, moving it back as needed.
Flashing CWM is really overcomplicating things. If you have the CW 1.7mb update.zip file in the root of your IntSD, and can boot recovery. Then you can re-install packages and CWM will run.
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Thanks, ill try it.
Oh, copying? Thanks for that info man, much appreciated.
And no, lol, not CWM, CM, as in CyanogenMod. You have to flash it over Cognition to have it run properly.
I can confirm Wipe Data/Factory Reset doesn't affect your user data like IntSD and ExtSD.
But I can not solve the nandroid issue. I flashed to stock, flashed Cog, flashed CM6.1, and restored my CM backup, won't boot.
Well does it boot the fresh CM6.1? and did you let Voodoo convert data when you booted up Cog?
ps didnt flash this. Just trying to get more information.
Maybe try reflashing CM6.1.
JimmehDean said:
Well does it boot the fresh CM6.1? and did you let Voodoo convert data when you booted up Cog?
ps didnt flash this. Just trying to get more information.
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At what part of my process are you referring to? Fresh installs from Cog (with Voodoo enabled after a boot) to CM work perfectly. Flashing Cog, enabling voodoo, then flashing CM, then restoring from backup soft bricks it (never boots), any restore from backup soft bricks it
Rhiannon224 said:
Maybe try reflashing CM6.1.
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I flashed CM6.1 many times and tried to restore from backup, from CM, from stock, nothing works. Only a fresh install (what I have now) works. My problem isn't getting my phone working, it's figuring out why nandroid won't work
Haloruler64 said:
I flashed CM6.1 many times and tried to restore from backup, from CM, from stock, nothing works. Only a fresh install (what I have now) works. My problem isn't getting my phone working, it's figuring out why nandroid won't work
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I had this happen a while back, I believe the lagfix messed up my Nandroid Backups, none of them worked after installing the lagfix, not Voodoo, the ULF with Setiron's kernel.
Rhiannon224 said:
I had this happen a while back, I believe the lagfix messed up my Nandroid Backups, none of them worked after installing the lagfix, not Voodoo, the ULF with Setiron's kernel.
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so with Voodoo on, nandroid backups will not work even when they were created with Voodoo off? Will nandroids with Voodoo on work if they were created with Voodoo on? Does anyone know this lol
Haloruler64 said:
so with Voodoo on, nandroid backups will not work even when they were created with Voodoo off? Will nandroids with Voodoo on work if they were created with Voodoo on? Does anyone know this lol
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I don't know, I just know that when I originally installed Setiron's kernel and ULF my Nandroid Backups were worthless, they must have gotten corrupted, thankfully I had them stored on my pc so they weren't lost. Depends on which Voodoo kernel, Unhelpful's dosen't work with CW if Voodoo isn't disabled, if you're using DG's you'd have to ask him, go to the IRC Cognition chat and ask them. Someone there will be able to help. I always disable voodoo before using backups with CW.
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I don't know, I just know that when I originally installed Setiron's kernel and ULF my Nandroid Backups were worthless, they must have gotten corrupted, thankfully I had them stored on my pc so they weren't lost. Depends on which Voodoo kernel, Unhelpful's dosen't work with CW if Voodoo isn't disabled, if you're using DG's you'd have to ask him, go to the IRC Cognition chat and ask them. Someone there will be able to help. I always disable voodoo before using backups with CW.
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I just think nandroid on Captivates doesnt actually affect the kernel. i897 kernels ahve AT&T splash screen, while i9000 have i9000 ones. From JH2 (no voodoo), restoring CM6.1 (made when Voodoo was off) soft bricked my phone. On boot, it showed the AT&T screen and got stuck there. So I assume it never flashed back the kernel from CM6.1
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I just think nandroid on Captivates doesnt actually affect the kernel. i897 kernels ahve AT&T splash screen, while i9000 have i9000 ones. From JH2 (no voodoo), restoring CM6.1 (made when Voodoo was off) soft bricked my phone. On boot, it showed the AT&T screen and got stuck there. So I assume it never flashed back the kernel from CM6.1
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It dosen't touch the kernel. That is a pain, I forgot about that once, soft bricked and never forgot to flash the kernel before installing backup again. You can't restore a backup of CM6.1 over JH7, it is a 2.1 kernel for starters. CM6.1 is 2.2, huge pronlem. You need a 2.2 I9000 kernel.
Rhiannon224 said:
It dosen't touch the kernel. That is a pain, I forgot about that once, soft bricked and never forgot to flash the kernel before installing backup again. You can't restore a backup of CM6.1 over JH7, it is a 2.1 kernel for starters. CM6.1 is 2.2, huge pronlem. You need a 2.2 I9000 kernel.
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The thing is, it backs up the kernel on the N1, and that was my basis. That explains why backups don't work even on Cognition, different kernel
My question is...
I have Cyanogen mod 7 on my phone atm and I want to experiment with other roms. I'm going to try MIUI
Do I have to Re flash my phone if I already have open recovery and nandroid on my phone or can i just get the Miui rom throw it on the SD card , then go to open Recovery wipe everything and install the miui and reboot the phone?
And do I also have to apply the Google apps update as well (i'd assume i have to just like cyanogen 7)
Thanks for the help!
Motorola Milestone, Telus Canada
Kulch said:
My question is...
I have Cyanogen mod 7 on my phone atm and I want to experiment with other roms. I'm going to try MIUI
Do I have to Re flash my phone if I already have open recovery and nandroid on my phone or can i just get the Miui rom throw it on the SD card , then go to open Recovery wipe everything and install the miui and reboot the phone?
And do I also have to apply the Google apps update as well (i'd assume i have to just like cyanogen 7)
Thanks for the help!
Motorola Milestone, Telus Canada
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if ur coming from cm7 to miui u will have to wipe everything .. no need to flash gapps ..
Kulch said:
My question is...
I have Cyanogen mod 7 on my phone atm and I want to experiment with other roms. I'm going to try MIUI
Do I have to Re flash my phone if I already have open recovery and nandroid on my phone or can i just get the Miui rom throw it on the SD card , then go to open Recovery wipe everything and install the miui and reboot the phone?
And do I also have to apply the Google apps update as well (i'd assume i have to just like cyanogen 7)
Thanks for the help!
Motorola Milestone, Telus Canada
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From ROM to ROM, all you need to do is place the ROM itself on your SD Card in OpenRecovery/updates and do a FULL WIPE (both caches and data).
For Gingerbread ROMs you need the GB Google Apps(Gapps). For Froyo ROMs (with the exception of FroyoMOD) you need to flash the Froyo Gapps.
Reboot into recovery and apply update, go from there.
skadude66 said:
From ROM to ROM, all you need to do is place the ROM itself on your SD Card in OpenRecovery/updates and do a FULL WIPE (both caches and data).
For Gingerbread ROMs you need the GB Google Apps(Gapps). For Froyo ROMs (with the exception of FroyoMOD) you need to flash the Froyo Gapps.
Reboot into recovery and apply update, go from there.
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for miui u dnt need to flash gapps ..
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for miui u dnt need to flash gapps ..
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Regardless, you can flash it nonetheless, it's gets you into a good habit of flashing Gapps with GB ROMs
thanks !
awesome guys really appreciate it
Another noob question tho!
When I nandroid backup my Cyanogen mod 7 settings will it be there when i do a factory wipe and put a different rom on, and if i dont like that rom i can easily go back into open recovery, click restore and boom i got my cyanogen again?>
Kulch said:
Another noob question tho!
When I nandroid backup my Cyanogen mod 7 settings will it be there when i do a factory wipe and put a different rom on, and if i dont like that rom i can easily go back into open recovery, click restore and boom i got my cyanogen again?>
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when u do a nandroid backup u dnt backup only ur settings .. do a full backup n when u restore ur phone will back to the same state when u backed it up ..
u don't have to setup your phone again as all your settings (Google Account, Facebook, Twitter) and your personalised fonts, ringtone, wallpaper, widgets.... all get restored back.
u shud even do apps2ext ..
Kulch said:
Another noob question tho!
When I nandroid backup my Cyanogen mod 7 settings will it be there when i do a factory wipe and put a different rom on, and if i dont like that rom i can easily go back into open recovery, click restore and boom i got my cyanogen again?>
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Someone answered this, but I wanted to help be really clear. When you do a nandroid backup, it backs up the ROM, your data (save for the SDCard) and the cache. Basically, if you hork your device (which I do a lot), you can restore from the nandroid backup right from recovery (hold down the X key while powering on).
The nice thing is that you really can't mess up. Make sure to take a backup before you play, and if you don't like what you see a few hours later, you can safely fully restore and be right back where you were on the old ROM with your old data.
Cheers!
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Someone answered this, but I wanted to help be really clear. When you do a nandroid backup, it backs up the ROM, your data (save for the SDCard) and the cache. Basically, if you hork your device (which I do a lot), you can restore from the nandroid backup right from recovery (hold down the X key while powering on).
The nice thing is that you really can't mess up. Make sure to take a backup before you play, and if you don't like what you see a few hours later, you can safely fully restore and be right back where you were on the old ROM with your old data.
Cheers!
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correct ..
Scenario where Nandroid backup comes in handy
Ok, so now you are on Miui ROM ver.1.5.27. You have gone thru the trouble of setting up your Google account, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
You have personalised it with your own ringtone, fonts, widgets and wallpaper.
Then u found out Miui ROM got new update today to ver.1.6.5 and you are eager to go flash it now until you forget to make Nandroid backup...thinking what could go wrong.
So u go ahead and flash this new Miui ROM ver.1.6.5 but then you found out that it drains battery life crazy or maybe this is the Chinese version.
So u decided to go back to Miui ROM ver.1.5.27.
But because you forgotten to make a Nandroid backup, you have to go thru the whole process of flashing the zip file, the Gapps and then setting up your Google account, Facebook, Twitter, etc and also setting up your personalised ringtone, wallpaper, fonts, widgets, etc.
Now... had u done a Nandroid backup of Miui ROM ver.1.5.27 before you flash a newer version, then your life would be easier because all you need to do is restore back the Nandroid backup of Miui ROM ver.1.5.27 and u don't have to setup your phone again as all your settings (Google Account, Facebook, Twitter) and your personalised fonts, ringtone, wallpaper, widgets.... all get restored back.
Hello.
i'm curious about installing cm7. i know it requires a full wipe. i'm on cm6.
i've never wiped the phone before and i'm wondering if a wipe affects previous nandroids? if i wipe the device now, and then choose to reload a previous nandroid backup, will the wipe cause the backup harm? or, by reloading the nandroid, everything gets put back where it was?
does that make sense?
thanks.
v.
Victrola666 said:
Hello.
i'm curious about installing cm7. i know it requires a full wipe. i'm on cm6.
i've never wiped the phone before and i'm wondering if a wipe affects previous nandroids? if i wipe the device now, and then choose to reload a previous nandroid backup, will the wipe cause the backup harm? or, by reloading the nandroid, everything gets put back where it was?
does that make sense?
thanks.
v.
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the latter.
A nandroid backup is like a snapshot of the system, it will back up everything (except SD card). I have found that after a nandroid restore the phone even remembers where I had a song paused!
thank you, guys.
i'm gonna try to flash a new rom tonight without fear.