Hi,
i am considering buying Moto Milestone. It is for 398 Euro at a local shop here right now.
I know the Milestone 2 is behind the corner, i think it will be 500 eur+ at launch.
My main question is - i did read many reviews of motorola milestone and most of them came to the conclusion that the physical keyboard on Moto is quite problematic.
I want to buy the Milestone mainly because of the hw keyboard, i had HTC Hero and the onscreen experience was slow and painfull.
Before that i had qwerty portrait phones - Palm Treo, Samsung 780...
Are you able to achieve typing speed comparable to phones like these?
Or do you think it is worth to wait for Milestone 2. Would it be worth the 100+ eur price difference?
Swype is way faster.
It really depends on the user. Somelike it, some don't. If you have big fingers and thumbs, then it's better waiting for the Milestone 2 as the Milestone keys are kinda small, or you could just use the on-screen keyboard.
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well i have pretty normals fingers and i can write quite fast and it is very comfortable as well. But Swype is fast as well but i like keyboard much better.
Each release of swype gets better and better.
If your moto droid or milestone has a two-piece phone case then the top row of keys is very cramped.
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Thinking of buying an android device. I've two choices motorola defy and milestone. As defy got 800 mhz processor and this got 600 mhz i'm confused i can't buy milestone 2 because of its price. So what's your reviews with this phone? Also adobe flash works on this device?
Shriharsh said:
Thinking of buying an android device. I've two choices motorola defy and milestone. As defy got 800 mhz processor and this got 600 mhz i'm confused i can't buy milestone 2 because of its price. So what's your reviews with this phone? Also adobe flash works on this device?
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Depending on your location, you may or may not have Flash. It's included in Stock Froyo, so there's a good chance you'd have it.
The Milestone is a physical beast in terms of durability for a slider phone. I've dropped it numerous times and it's still held up great.
The Defy on the other hand, is insanely durable. It has military standards for durability, but it lacks the physical keyboard.
CPU speeds shouldn't be an issue for you if you are rooting it, you can easily overclock the Milestone to 1GHz from 550Mhz.
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Depending on your location, you may or may not have Flash. It's included in Stock Froyo, so there's a good chance you'd have it.
The Milestone is a physical beast in terms of durability for a slider phone. I've dropped it numerous times and it's still held up great.
The Defy on the other hand, is insanely durable. It has military standards for durability, but it lacks the physical keyboard.
CPU speeds shouldn't be an issue for you if you are rooting it, you can easily overclock the Milestone to 1GHz from 550Mhz.
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i'll root it. That's not problem but i've heard that overclocking reduces battery life. Though my main motto is chatting, texting and surfing net. I don't usually play games but sometimes play them.
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i'll root it. That's not problem but i've heard that overclocking reduces battery life. Though my main motto is chatting, texting and surfing net. I don't usually play games but sometimes play them.
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Every ROM has its fair share of battery life. Right now, I find that my best battery life is with iceandfire v2.1. The others are good, but I can't get a full day out of them.
both phones are locked in terms of bootloader. this means no custom kernels! all meaning the core of our phones are locked. our roms are based on whatever version of android motorola gives us and whatever the community comes up with, gingerbread updates or whatever, is still based on the latest kernel motorola gives us.
I honestly would tell you to choose htc or maybe samsung. but its up to you as you say you only have these two choices. look at the amount of roms for HTC or SAMSUNG, there is A LOT more than what this phone can support / offer.
EDIT: unless you are talking about moto droid which is different from the moto milestone. the droid is the U.S. variant which runs on CDMA networks and is one of two devices made by moto (other being the xoom) that offers an unlocked bootloader.. I would go for the droid in this case
ummmm I want cpu speed
if u like a Smartphone with keyboard then Milestone,Milestone 2 and HTC Desire Z are the best. but if u want to play games that are heavy like dungeon defenders than u need 512mb RAM = Milestone 2 or HTC Desire Z. because we cant use on Milestone SWAP... locked bootloader...my opinion is save u money a little bit and get a Milestone 2 =)
at least here - milestone is very cheap compared to other android phones. also if you want qwerty, which REALLY sucks btw (but at least it is there) you should get milestone.
MuF123 said:
at least here - milestone is very cheap compared to other android phones. also if you want qwerty, which REALLY sucks btw (but at least it is there) you should get milestone.
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qwerty sucks how? Can you elaborate? Because in India we get only one phone till we do jobs. So i want to pick a device that'll be with me till 4 years
Shriharsh said:
qwerty sucks how? Can you elaborate? Because in India we get only one phone till we do jobs. So i want to pick a device that'll be with me till 4 years
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umm I just hate typing on the qwerty. it is tough to press, keys are crammed together so you have to touch the key with tip of your finger... not so satisfactory key travel so you cant tell if you have pressed it or not.
I had HTC Wizard and I must say it was heavenly writing experience when compared to Milestone.
Go try it before buying...
The hardware keyboard sucks, but it's still better than the on-screen one, I can't type a sentence without making a mistake in each word.
I recently bought an HTC Desire Z but was given the T-mobile model which doesn't suppport 850Mhz 3G, which is what my local network runs. The eBay seller has a Droid 3 XT883 that he can exchange my HTC for, would you recommend your Droid?
I really like the QWERTY keyboard on the HTC but there seems to be less in the way of ROMs for the Droid. Any other models you can suggest?
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I recently bought an HTC Desire Z but was given the T-mobile model which doesn't suppport 850Mhz 3G, which is what my local network runs. The eBay seller has a Droid 3 XT883 that he can exchange my HTC for, would you recommend your Droid?
I really like the QWERTY keyboard on the HTC but there seems to be less in the way of ROMs for the Droid. Any other models you can suggest?
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Its not a bad device, its got a solid cpu and ram which is still pretty speedy, the keyboard is one of the best available ( besides the droid 4's ), but in terms of roms and dev support its almost dead. They devs still around are still working very hard but sometimes a lot of things are outdated , and if you get brick it can be hard with limited support.
It is quite durable and reliable, easy to root as well, once hash develops the JB ROM it'll be a solid phone. I use mine day to day, on an ICS ROM, and it works well. However, doesn't mean I won't buy the fighter once is out, due to the fact that its a bit old. But I would recommend it.
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Never even approach to this phone. It is the worst smartphone I have ever not only owned, but even held in my hand. This phone has managed to disappoint me not even in Motorola, but in whole Android. I'm pulling the thread to get brand new flagship on WP8 - thankfully we will never see WP8 on Motos. F..k Moto, damn droid!
the biggest pro to this phone, the keyboard, sucks for me. i've had 2 now and both have had problems with double pressing keys and some keys (particularly the question mark) not wanting to register. plus there's very little support. stay away
edit: on the pro side i can use it to open my beer bottles because of the metal bezel
DROID 3 - good specs, terrible support/updates. biggest drawback at the moment is the locked bootloader. i'm currently trying to decide whether to keep it (hoping we can actually get an OS update) or sell it.
if you're looking for the QWERTY keyboard and full 3G band support, have a look at the Xperia Pro mk16a. It's a good piece of equipment already running Jelly Bean.
Droid 3 could be good for you
If the following apply to you, the Droid 3 is a great phone:
1. You are OK with not having the latest and greatest version of Android
2. You don't mind rooting
3. 3G rather than 4G is OK for your purposes
Number two kind of applies to all Verizon Android phones in my book. They are so incredibly full of crapware as they come from Verizon that the hardware seems basically crippled by it. However rooting it and installing Titanium backup and then freezing all the crapware so it can't run transforms the phone. Personally I don't much care if I ever get ICS or JB on it. Once de-crapified the version it has is fine in my book. Then again my needs are probably less demanding than others. For me my phone is just a glorified PDA for getting my email, providing appointment notifications and storing my contacts. I use Touchdown for those things and that is going to be pretty much the same no matter what phone I use it on.
The speakerphone is the best I've had so far, very clear sound. The camera is above par as well, crisp and little grain, certainly better than my Atrix.
Absolutely
ive been looking/waiting for a better qwerty phone since i got the d3. d3 problems to me screen, no 4g, lack of ram, shouldnt of even come with motoblur eventho thats removable. id still like to see more specs on the stratosphere II looks very promising. the d4 is not something id want for my own reasons. i like the photon q but its on sprint and there 4g or lack there of lol. http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/samsung-stratosphere-ii/ opinions thoughts? o yea the d3 didnt even get ics illegitimately id love to see a droid 5 but i think the specs will be under par sadly enough.
I'd like to see Motorola take a Droid Razr M, add a keyboard and call it the Droid 5. Motoblur has been much improved with ICS and newer as its hardly a skin anymore, and mostly resembles stock. Being almost a year old, I would stay away from the Droid 4 as well. I'm wondering if there will be a Droid 5 at this point. With the Samsung phone your getting a lower resolution screen vs the Droid 3, but not by much (800x480 vs 960x540). Your also getting Samsung's UI on ICS.
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I'd like to see Motorola take a Droid Razr M, add a keyboard and call it the Droid 5. Motoblur has been much improved with ICS and newer as its hardly a skin anymore, and mostly resembles stock. Being almost a year old, I would stay away from the Droid 4 as well. I'm wondering if there will be a Droid 5 at this point. With the Samsung phone your getting a lower resolution screen vs the Droid 3, but not by much (800x480 vs 960x540). Your also getting Samsung's UI on ICS.
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we can day dream about phones all day they will never get it right. i like super amoled i like the color saturation resolution on smaller screens doesnt make that big of a difference to me. still dont like moto blur id just shut off the slow animations that eat up memory. removeable battery, keyboard, amoled, external storage, hardware camera button and 4g thats all i really want in a phone. original droid was great they should have kept building from that it had no moto blur no locked bootloader could of had more ram but so could the droid 3.
This device poorly integrates the physical keyboard with android OS. When I had it I got more frustrated by the physical keyboard not working as expected and would just use the on screen keyboard. Definitely use one in person before buying.
On a Thunderbolt now and one of the few to still have true unlimited data.. I miss a keyboard, new to the D4 area and getting familiar w/ ROMs and what not, just wondering if you'd recommend it. Mainly just want to keep my 4G and get a keyboard. ICS will be nice but never messed w/ it much on my Thunderbolt.
Thanks in advance!
Just a week ago, I picked up a used Droid 4 as a replacement for my ailing (and LTE'less) droid 3.
Overall I am very happy with it, and I have to say, I can type faster on this keyboard than any other keyboard phone I've had. It's wonderful.
That said, it's still a midrange phone with a somewhat mediocre display... but all the mediocrity is absolutely worth having a keyboard IMO.
It's a good phone if you need a keyboard. I'm jealous of all the development going on with the Razr HD so I'm slowly practicing using the onscreen keyboard and in a couple months when I'm eligible to upgrade I will. The only thing that disappoints me about the Razr HD is that they didn't put 2gb of ram which I think should be the standard for a company's topline phone.
This is good input. I don't need high resolution, I need stability, battery life, and a keyboard, even if its a little bulkier. I also need VZN out of my pockets and lack budget to get anything newer at non upgrade prices. Thanks gents.
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I just came from a droid 3. Let's be honest...this is a flagship phone! The specs are not mid range, they are top notch when the phone was released. The device is is sweet. I get amazing battery on stock rom. Some apps I froze...its smooth. I usually turn off animation to increase speed...I haven't had to yet. I got a deal on mine, but for brand new, I would gladly pay 150.
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It's absolutely worth that. I'm coming from an LG Revolution, which has performance very similar to your Thunderbolt. Trust me, the D4 is quite a bit better. Yes, the screen was never going to win any awards, but otherwise it performs very well, and the screen's shortcomings are rarely a real issue in actual use. And the battery life, while not up to Razr Maxx standards, is still decent. And then there's the keyboard...just superb. It puts this phone (and now the Photon Q) in a class of its own.
The Kraken! said:
It's absolutely worth that. I'm coming from an LG Revolution, which has performance very similar to your Thunderbolt. Trust me, the D4 is quite a bit better. Yes, the screen was never going to win any awards, but otherwise it performs very well, and the screen's shortcomings are rarely a real issue in actual use. And the battery life, while not up to Razr Maxx standards, is still decent. And then there's the keyboard...just superb. It puts this phone (and now the Photon Q) in a class of its own.
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You know what, after using my D4 for awhile, you're absolutely right. The Performance of my D4 is well worth the upgrade from the D3, not something I necessarily expected. The screen still sucks in some ways, but it looks great when it's turned up all the way. Better than my D3 as well. and lastly, the battery life is also way better than my D3 (which probably actually had a battery that was on it's way out).
I couldn't be happier with my purchase, especially the magnificent keyboard. I can type SO FAST on my phone, so much faster than my D3. I love it.
Droid 4 really is an exceptional keyboard phone. I really am sad that there probably won't be a Droid 5.
Yeah, you may be right. I'll be sad if they don't make a D5. But who knows, that they bothered to make the Photon Q might be a sign that they're not giving up on the slide out form factor. We can hope.
I love mine
I've had my Droid 4 for a few months now and I must say that I absolutely love this device. Its fast, the keyboard feels great and the display is awesome. It will be hard to top this device for me as I require a keyboard.
It's Heavy. Which actually is noticeable when you're trying to relax in bed and check some news or play a game. I came from a Droid X to this Droid 4. I missed the keyboard of my other phone that I had long ago (LG enV2, lol). I thought it would be nice to text with a keyboard again, since being with a all touch screen phone got annoying (I loved Swiftkey tho at the time I made this decision) and I didn't really like Swype, it had some bugs and it's predictions weren't as nice as Swiftkey. Now that Swiftkey Flow is coming out and even usable in beta form... I decided I made the wrong mistake. Swype was proven to be faster than physical keyboards and now Swiftkey Flow improved upon it even further. Also, all this locked bootloader crap is annoying. I think this will be my last Motorola phone, since I had so much fun with my Droid X and this phone all I do is wait for Hashcode day after day. It's old. Keep in mind, there are many apps like Airdroid, which you can type from your pc (you must be connected to the same router on the pc and phone) with your keyboard and have all your Android info right there. Depending on the status of the next Moto device, probably the "X", that will determine what I will get next year around October. If you really enjoy modding your OS and phone, I highly recommend just using Swiftkey Flow and getting a nice screened phone and unlockable bootloader. However, the build quality is amazing and the keyboard also looks amazing and it has never missed a key-press.
I'm on the MyTouch 4g Slide, and wanting to upgrade to something a bit better. The Droid 4 seems to be the best phone on the market for me. Especially since I will NOT use anything without a real qwerty keyboard. The Manufacturers have had their chance to convince me, and have failed.
But the Droid 4 seems to be on its way out, and it looks like all the sales have ended. I also wonder about battery issues soem have mentioned here. So, what's the likelihood that VZW or anyone else will be coming out with a high-end, good qwerty phone on par with it? I may end up with the D4, I just wondered if there are any popular rumors or expectations since I've been out of the loop for quite a while.
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Falkner09 said:
I'm on the MyTouch 4g Slide, and wanting to upgrade to something a bit better. The Droid 4 seems to be the best phone on the market for me. Especially since I will NOT use anything without a real qwerty keyboard. The Manufacturers have had their chance to convince me, and have failed.
But the Droid 4 seems to be on its way out, and it looks like all the sales have ended. I also wonder about battery issues soem have mentioned here. So, what's the likelihood that VZW or anyone else will be coming out with a high-end, good qwerty phone on par with it? I may end up with the D4, I just wondered if there are any popular rumors or expectations since I've been out of the loop for quite a while.
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I think the chances are about an even 50-50 split. Motorola is well known for the quality hardware QWERTY keyboard phones. However, we've never seen Google make that kind of phone in their Nexus line, so I don't know the chances of them making physical keyboard phones via the Motorola brand. QWERTY keyboard phones have lost popularity due to their need of increased size and weight for said keyboard. So in the end, i think it's a toss-up.