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Greetings-
I've searched, scanned, and read, but still as a n00b, I'm not sure of what my best options are. I'm on Cog 2.3b6 and like it, but I've also read that Bacon (based on Cog) pretty much rocks- but wired headsets don't work, which is a showstopper for me. I'm considering Perception 4 (largely due to ewingr's post yesterday), but I'm not finding much info about it (is it referred to as a different name?).
I'm also noticing that the battery charges slowly if I actively use the phone; most devices typically run off of the charger while plugged in, leaving the battery to simply charge. I'm not sure if what I'm seeing a device issue or a ROM issue.
So, I'm asking those that know for their input... stay on Cog 2.3b6, or try a different ROM to get the best experience? TIA
Wired headsets don't work in 4 either. But Bluetooth do.
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Wired headsets don't work in 4 either. But Bluetooth do.
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Thanks pinball... but I kinda need the wired headset.
Why are you asking a question in the development section when there is a section called Q&A...?
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Why are you asking a question in the development section when there is a section called Q&A...?
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+1 (post in a useless thread)
nb4l
*cough* nub* cough*
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The wired headset works in my Perception v5 Rom so apparently not all installs or phones are the same.
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Why are you asking a question in the development section when there is a section called Q&A...?
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Because I simply forgot about that section... the mind gets foggy trying to assimilate all of this stuff when you're new. Didn't mean to add to the noise.
pj1000 said:
The wired headset works in my Perception v5 Rom so apparently not all installs or phones are the same.
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Really!!! Does it work for call as well or you are only talking about listening music? I guess the Guy meant wired headset for calls?
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At this point I'd wait. Based upon various comments it seems there will be a new Perception very soon.
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Really!!! Does it work for call as well or you are only talking about listening music? I guess the Guy meant wired headset for calls?
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Hmm... maybe I made too many assumptions about the wired headset problem. I have a pair of SkullCandy earbuds w/a mic and vol/mute controls that I need to use for calls... maybe I need to just try flashing Bacon and see what happens....
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The wired headset works in my Perception v5 Rom so apparently not all installs or phones are the same.
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There's no way you actually mean this for phone calls
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ive tried them all and the best is definitely aospMOD. It's fast right out of the gate, doesnt require overclock or lagfixes....but if you do its even quicker.
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The wired headset works in my Perception v5 Rom so apparently not all installs or phones are the same.
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Wired headset works with Captivate kernels, but doesn't with Vibrant ones. It's a known issue. If you want a wired headset, don't flash a ROM with the Vibrant kernel. Read the description first.
Doesn't work with I9000 kernels, not vibrant.
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Wired headset works with Captivate kernels, but doesn't with Vibrant ones. It's a known issue. If you want a wired headset, don't flash a ROM with the Vibrant kernel. Read the description first.
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It's the kernel that causes the problem. If you want to use the wired headsets for calls you cannot use SetiroN's kernel. Doesn't matter what kind of ROM it is.
hey guys,
first off i wanna thank all you awesome devs for making the android platform and the sgs the awesome experience it us i switched from iphone about a month back now and i have no regrets.
well maybe except one tiny one? when i was playing music in the car.. and i got a call.. the call audio would come through the same headphone jack and i could hear it through the car speakers while speaking through the phone mic.
is such an option possible on the sgs? also does anyone know of a way to lower the mic input volume for video so as to be able to film in loud environments such as gigs?
im running the megatron rom with froyo.
thanks for your time guys!
zorran
I would love for this to work too. I do a lot of work in very noisy areas, and use noise cancelling headphones to deaden outside noise. On my iPhone I could answer calls using the phone mic and headphones for the speaker. It's driving me insane that I can't do this on my Galaxy S.
search.. is that so hard for everyone .. i have posted solution to this multiple times.
lgkahn said:
search.. is that so hard for everyone .. i have posted solution to this multiple times.
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Just spent the last hour going through all posts made by you and have not found your solution to this problem. Only multiple posts of you telling everyone else to search....
Would you mind not being so vague?
Zorran said:
hey guys,
first off i wanna thank all you awesome devs for making the android platform and the sgs the awesome experience it us i switched from iphone about a month back now and i have no regrets.
well maybe except one tiny one? when i was playing music in the car.. and i got a call.. the call audio would come through the same headphone jack and i could hear it through the car speakers while speaking through the phone mic.
is such an option possible on the sgs? also does anyone know of a way to lower the mic input volume for video so as to be able to film in loud environments such as gigs?
im running the megatron rom with froyo.
thanks for your time guys!
zorran
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Speedmod Kernel + voodoo sound driver allows you to do this
fylim said:
Speedmod Kernel + voodoo sound driver allows you to do this
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Outstanding! Thank you very much!
Can someone explain me how to realize this? Is ist just flashing the speedmod kernel and this function will be enabled?
Donald Nice said:
Can someone explain me how to realize this? Is ist just flashing the speedmod kernel and this function will be enabled?
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Hi all,
I also want to know how to enable/make this work.
I am using Darky's 9.3 ROM with Voodoo Kernel 5.4.1 and have tried all the settings in the Voodoo control app but have had no luck.
Help please...
Hi
Just wanted to know if others experience this too?
when making a phone call, my sound is lagging/blurry/scratching. Sometimes sound like (kind of) a robot.
I live in the city, and signal loss or network change is therefore not an issue.
Just thought it was wierd, but guess it will be fixed with update.
From post #12:
I hoped this was just a software error, but baseband upgrade and custom ROM didn't work. This is how it sounds
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4651820/Stemme 002.amr (starts around 15 sec)
Exact same thing here. Sounds like a loose connection in the speaker. Same city as you, but on 3 instead of TDC. Nothing to do with network, it's either soft-or hardware error in the LG. Let's just hope it's soft
no problem here the sound is perfekt. i have telia
Its a known problem.
I sent the phone back as DOA because of this and few other problems.
Sorry. Forgot to change provide r, I'm on 3 as well...
I hope it's software too. Waiting for better rom from paul before testing...
My camera has stopped working as well of today : s
Started of so well with the phone. But sucks with bugs on stock rom
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raf2k said:
Its a known problem.
I sent the phone back as DOA because of this and few other problems.
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Do you know if it's software or hardware related?
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See this thread here. Give LG a buzz as they are accepting bug reports for a major update.
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See this thread here. Give LG a buzz as they are accepting bug reports for a major update.
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Thanks for heads up. Looks like it's software error fortunately, so Im more calm now
Found this at Paul's forum.
"Problem solved with the new baseband I think. Haven't noticed any tinny sound effect when in phone - either 2G or 3G connectivity.
It's a shockingly large improvement. Really bad that LG sells the phone with that software because mine was almost unusable in crowds because you had no idea what the other person was saying. Will be keen to jump to newer basebands now if they become available since it's proven it does make a huge difference. At least it's not a reason to NOT buy this phone anymore since it's easily fixable thanks to Paul now "
Problem was solved after update.
Check for updates here: http://android.modaco.com/content/lg-optimus-2x-2x-modaco-com/335049/in-call-sound-quality/
larsn84 said:
Thanks for heads up. Looks like it's software error fortunately, so Im more calm now
Found this at Paul's forum.
"Problem solved with the new baseband I think. Haven't noticed any tinny sound effect when in phone - either 2G or 3G connectivity.
It's a shockingly large improvement. Really bad that LG sells the phone with that software because mine was almost unusable in crowds because you had no idea what the other person was saying. Will be keen to jump to newer basebands now if they become available since it's proven it does make a huge difference. At least it's not a reason to NOT buy this phone anymore since it's easily fixable thanks to Paul now "
Problem was solved after update.
Check for updates here: http://android.modaco.com/content/lg-optimus-2x-2x-modaco-com/335049/in-call-sound-quality/
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Hehe, funny to be quoted here, from a thread I started over at MoDaCo. According to my poll there a lot of 2X users experience bad sound.
Like I wrote at MoDaCo - I haven't noticed any weird sound after the baseband flash, so please upgrade and tell me if you also notice an improvement. I'll update the thread accordingly.
Btw, what baseband are you currently on?
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Hehe, funny to be quoted here, from a thread I started over at MoDaCo. According to my poll there a lot of 2X users experience bad sound.
Like I wrote at MoDaCo - I haven't noticed any weird sound after the baseband flash, so please upgrade and tell me if you also notice an improvement. I'll update the thread accordingly.
Btw, what baseband are you currently on?
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Hehe. Im just having trouble remembering which i wrote in and which i read in :-D
But...
I Updated baseband now = no difference.., still scratchy sound...
Flashed pauls custom rom = still scratchy sound...
Seems in some cases it might ne hardware related :-(
Perhaps im unlucky.
The volume is okay/high enough. I just got scratching.... similar to white noise
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larsn84 said:
Seems in some cases it might ne hardware related :-(
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If this is truly a hardware issue, don't delay- send it back. Furthermore, be mindful of the replacement you receive. Here is an example of an "ugly" situation that happened between two owners. Be firm & inspect your replacement thoroughly- if it's not in "like-new" condition or has residual data from a previous owner, argue for a brand new 2X.
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If this is truly a hardware issue, don't delay- send it back. Furthermore, be mindful of the replacement you receive. Here is an example of an "ugly" situation that happened between two owners. Be firm & inspect your replacement thoroughly- if it's not in "like-new" condition or has residual data from a previous owner, argue for a brand new 2X.
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I think we got quite good policies in Denmark, so I'll probably just get a new one at first But thanks for the advice. Hopefully the next will show up better.
A friend of mine experienced pixel "errors" on his AND his girlfriends, so the next one better be fully functional... I know that TDC provider in Denmark wanted to postpone the release too, because of malfunctioning devices. This was before they ever sold any, and they haven't got them in stock yet
I hoped this was just a software error, but baseband upgrade and custom ROM didn't work. This is how it sounds
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4651820/Stemme 002.amr (starts around 15 sec)
Now I just have to wait for "three" to send it in, and return a new one... if it happens three times, I'll get my mony back, and perhaps go for the SGS2 and hope it gets Tegra2... a shame, such a nice phone otherwise. Hope they make it work, but I hear a lot of complaints *fingers crossed*
EDIT: Damn, just heard of three occasions of the same problem here in Denmark... hope they can fix it
I'm not experiencing any scratchy sounds like you, not even before I upgraded baseband. So I guess it's not all O2X in Denmark that has the problem.
I bought mine through Callme.
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I'm not experiencing any scratchy sounds like you, not even before I upgraded baseband. So I guess it's not all O2X in Denmark that has the problem.
I bought mine through Callme.
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The problem has been there all the time for me. Just saying the update didn't work for me, so I guess it is hardware related in my case. There has just been some discussions about wether it is hardware or software related.
The problem doesn't occure on all devices, but some are unlucky. 2 of my friends, which bought it on the release date, as my self, has experienced the same problem.
Also, on mobildebat.dk (danish forum) people complain about having the same problem. Such a shame.
I turned in my phone now, and has to wait for up to 10 days for LG to come up with a solution now Hope it goes faster. If i went down to the store last wednesday, I would hav gotten a new phone right away, due to 14 days return policy. Now I have to use my Nokia N82, damn it's slow
Hi,
I have had the same problems on my week old phone. Scrathy sound, Buzzing sound that both ends can hear and the other end sounding "tinny" or like a robot.
I also had random reboots.
Sent it in to repairs monday, hopefully it won't come back with "no faults found".
MY local Telia shop, where I bought the phone, hadn't heard about the problem from more than 1-2 people. Danish LG customerservice also hadn't heard about it. (This was a week ago.)
BTW: Is it normal for camera area to get very hot during calls? I had that too. Battery time was ok. 1-1½ day of normal use. Heavy wifi/talk/gps = less than a day.
I made a recording of the buzzing sound (starts at around 20secs in.):
dl.dropbox.com/u/4130839/Out_2011_03_27_14-06-29_%2B4550800950.3gp
This buzzing is sometimes so loud you cant hear what ppl are saying, and they have a hard time hearing you too.
pslind69 said:
Hi,
I have had the same problems on my week old phone. Scrathy sound, Buzzing sound that both ends can hear and the other end sounding "tinny" or like a robot.
I also had random reboots.
Sent it in to repairs monday, hopefully it won't come back with "no faults found".
MY local Telia shop, where I bought the phone, hadn't heard about the problem from more than 1-2 people. Danish LG customerservice also hadn't heard about it. (This was a week ago.)
BTW: Is it normal for camera area to get very hot during calls? I had that too. Battery time was ok. 1-1½ day of normal use. Heavy wifi/talk/gps = less than a day.
I made a recording of the buzzing sound (starts at around 20secs in.):
dl.dropbox.com/u/4130839/Out_2011_03_27_14-06-29_%2B4550800950.3gp
This buzzing is sometimes so loud you cant hear what ppl are saying, and they have a hard time hearing you too.
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I got the same buzzing sound if I call
davjan said:
I got the same buzzing sound if I call
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Yeah, It's really strange =/
Just in cas you haven't saw it but seems that the latest radio fix this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008070
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Just in cas you haven't saw it but seems that the latest radio fix this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008070
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I updated the baseband , but the problem is still there
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I updated the baseband , but the problem is still there
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Damn, I was hoping it was just a bad sw =/
Hey guys,
After JVK update I've been having this problem with delays in answering calls. The call wouldn't be answered for about 2 seconds even after sliding the answer call button. I have pure JVK, 512 pit and bootloader. No root or etc.
Is there anyway for me to fix this? It's so damn irritating..
Have you done anything to the ROM after installing it? I'm running XXJVK and don't have this issue.
Intratech said:
Have you done anything to the ROM after installing it? I'm running XXJVK and don't have this issue.
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Question revised.
Very strange bro, if you haven't modified the ROM in anyway I'm at a loss. I'm assuming you didn't use a custom ROM. I flashed the version with the bootloader so don't know if that made any difference.
I can confirm that!
STOCK JVK
+1 to that
Also when I'm calling somebody I cant hear the initial "hello", we end up helloing each other like dumbnuts...
STOCK JVK
//edit: F.... double
Yes, for me that problem aswell, and it was with 2.3.2 rom aswell
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I have made a small research and it seems all 2.3.3 phones (Nexus one, HTC) have this problem. And there is an app at the market named: Call Delay Patch. I did not try it yet. In fact I do not want to try! Because it is the basic function of a phone to be able to answer a call! You should not install some third party app to do that! Do you hear me Google!
i have exactly the same problem, this might be a bug, but why some of us have it, and some dont?
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zalimtayyar said:
I have made a small research and it seems all 2.3.3 phones (Nexus one, HTC) have this problem. And there is an app at the market named: Call Delay Patch. I did not try it yet. In fact I do not want to try! Because it is the basic function of a phone to be able to answer a call! You should not install some third party app to do that! Do you hear me Google!
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it is not google, it is samsung
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it is not google, it is samsung
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I said other Gingerbread phones like Nexus and Htc have the some problem. So; yes it is Google!
someone found a fix? does the earlier mentioned app work?
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it is not google, it is samsung
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It's officialy Google not Samsung. Google admited the bug at last.
Maybe the reason Google pulled the JVK update...
If you're having the call delay problem, especially on a device that is not the Nexus One, please star the issue here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16230
This is a known bug with Gingerbread, that Google recently declined, saying it was "device specific" (to the Nexus One).
However this problem is also being reportedly widely on the HTC Desire, as well as Samsung Galaxy devices. I have posted a new issue above and not attributed it to a specific device.
Please comment and star this issue. And please specificy especially if your device is not the Nexus One, so that Google gets this message that this is a widespread Gingerbread bug, which has nothing to do with the device.
Thanks.
The Google employee following up on the call delay issue, in the Google support forums, is asking people to fill out the following form, to gather information about how people are affected and on what devices.
http://goo.gl/10HJ1
I'm not entirely sure if this is an issue with my hardware or software which is why I'm asking where I should look (or start a thread) first. I've had sound before but now there is nothing, not even crackling or popping. I'm using Cyanogenmod 11 on a Samsung Captivate. I read a thread about loosening a screw near the speaker and tried that (along with a not-so-deep tear-down), but still not a peep (or beep). Something I should mention is that headphones DO work when they're plugged in. Additionally I've done some scouring of the Internet for a fix but I can't find any problems truly similar to mine.
Hi
Thanks for writing to us at XDA Assist. It seems to me like you have a hardware failure. Which version of the Captivate do you have? Unbranded or AT&T?
Hi to you too
Thank you for replying. I believe it is the at&t version, although I'll admit I wasn't aware there was a Captivate that wasn't an at&t version. That would be found in the info part of the phone as the model number right?
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Thank you for replying. I believe it is the at&t version, although I'll admit I wasn't aware there was a Captivate that wasn't an at&t version. That would be found in the info part of the phone as the model number right?
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That's right, and most at&t phones actually have the at&t logo somewhere on the phone, as well as the at&t logo during the boot animation. If it has either of those we can safely assume that is the at&t model, otherwise please let me know what the model number is.
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Wow, I can't believe I didn't notice it at the top of the phone, yes it is an at&t model.
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Wow, I can't believe I didn't notice it at the top of the phone, yes it is an at&t model.
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Thanks for the extra information. I'm going to have this thread moved to the AT&T Captivate q&a section here:
Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
That way it'll reach the people who are most experienced with your device, so if it is a common bug they should be able to walk you through it. It sounds hardware related to me but lets see what the Captivate experts say.
Good luck!
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Okay.
Thank you for the help
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I'm not entirely sure if this is an issue with my hardware or software which is why I'm asking where I should look (or start a thread) first. I've had sound before but now there is nothing, not even crackling or popping. I'm using Cyanogenmod 11 on a Samsung Captivate. I read a thread about loosening a screw near the speaker and tried that (along with a not-so-deep tear-down), but still not a peep (or beep). Something I should mention is that headphones DO work when they're plugged in. Additionally I've done some scouring of the Internet for a fix but I can't find any problems truly similar to mine.
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It does sound like hardware. Have you tried slightly pushing on the speaker? I tends to come loose.
If you have any flashing experience, you can try flashing stock to completely rule out software issue but since the aux works, I'm pretty sure it's hardware.
I have tried pushing on the speaker. The only reason I was thinking it might be a software issue is because I changed some of the settings in what I believe is called dsp. Before I flash it back to the stock software (firmware?) is there any other troubleshooting I could try? Putting Cyanogenmod on it was somewhat of a process and overall I like it. And if it is a hardware problem how much would it cost to fix (not that I have any money to do so anyway )? And before I end this reply, thank you for your help.
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I have tried pushing on the speaker. The only reason I was thinking it might be a software issue is because I changed some of the settings in what I believe is called dsp. Before I flash it back to the stock software (firmware?) is there any other troubleshooting I could try? Putting Cyanogenmod on it was somewhat of a process and overall I like it. And if it is a hardware problem how much would it cost to fix (not that I have any money to do so anyway )? And before I end this reply, thank you for your help.
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You could always flash CM over and that would rule out the system file possibility.
Was the problem there before flashing CM? And I have a neat little guide on how to flash in my "most thanked" posts if you need it to get back to CM after flashing stock.
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You could always flash CM over and that would rule out the system file possibility.
Was the problem there before flashing CM? And I have a neat little guide on how to flash in my "most thanked" posts if you need it to get back to CM after flashing stock.
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I actually don't remember if the problem was there or not as I flashed CM on it pretty much as soon as I got it. Can I just start from the "install from zip" process to reflash CM on it? In the meantime I'll see if I can do that without there being any potential problems with bricking the phone etc. And thank you for being patient with me .
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I actually don't remember if the problem was there or not as I flashed CM on it pretty much as soon as I got it. Can I just start from the "install from zip" process to reflash CM on it? In the meantime I'll see if I can do that without there being any potential problems with bricking the phone etc. And thank you for being patient with me .
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Yeah, just flash the ROM zip and the Gapps over your current one. It's called a "dirty flash" and will only wipe your system settings.
I was celebrating St. Patrick's day which is why I haven't replied sooner, apologies. Anyway, I will do that, although I learned from the previous owner that the sound was going out so now I'm 99% positive that it's the hardware. Is it okay for me to mention that replacement speakers appear to be relatively cheap (and possibly easy to install)? And one last question, for the future, is it more polite to leave the quote in the reply rather than take it out?
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I was celebrating St. Patrick's day which is why I haven't replied sooner, apologies. Anyway, I will do that, although I learned from the previous owner that the sound was going out so now I'm 99% positive that it's the hardware. Is it okay for me to mention that replacement speakers appear to be relatively cheap (and possibly easy to install)? And one last question, for the future, is it more polite to leave the quote in the reply rather than take it out?
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You should keep the quote, it notices the user you quote and that way, he can reply faster (me in this case).
And yeah speaker replacement is definitely an option. You should be able to find a quick video guide on youtube, I believe it's fairly easy to do.
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You should keep the quote, it notices the user you quote and that way, he can reply faster (me in this case).
And yeah speaker replacement is definitely an option. You should be able to find a quick video guide on youtube, I believe it's fairly easy to do.
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I put an older CM version (that was under the stable category) on to see if it was the software and I checked with the previous owner to see if the sound was going out (it was). There still isn't any sound so it's definitely the hardware. Now the question is; do I spend money to replace the speaker on an old phone that I don't really need?
That'd probably be a different thread though.
Thank you for your help!
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I'm not entirely sure if this is an issue with my hardware or software which is why I'm asking where I should look (or start a thread) first. I've had sound before but now there is nothing, not even crackling or popping. I'm using Cyanogenmod 11 on a Samsung Captivate. I read a thread about loosening a screw near the speaker and tried that (along with a not-so-deep tear-down), but still not a peep (or beep). Something I should mention is that headphones DO work when they're plugged in. Additionally I've done some scouring of the Internet for a fix but I can't find any problems truly similar to mine.
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flash neatkernel with cm11 rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-captivate/development/recovery-cwm6-philz-touch-t3030931. solved my speaker problem. stock cm11 kernel has speaker bug.
brandonabandon said:
flash neatkernel with cm11 rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-captivate/development/recovery-cwm6-philz-touch-t3030931. solved my speaker problem. stock cm11 kernel has speaker bug.
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Does it really? I thought for sure it was hardware related, but if there's a way around spending too much money I'm all for it, thank you!
So I installed it and still nothing. But still thank you.
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So I installed it and still nothing. But still thank you.
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cappy speakers on ebay for next to nothing.
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cappy speakers on ebay for next to nothing.
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So, I think I know how to replace/install the speaker and I've watched a video or two on the process. Would you have any do's or don'ts, tips, et cetera?