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Check it out:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/23/sprint-to-offer-iphone-5-in-october/
online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424053111903327904576526690675657466-lMyQjAxMTAxMDIwMzEyNDMyWj.html?mod=wsj_share_email
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pretty neat stuff
Well that network is really gonna be bogged down now.
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Well that network is really gonna be bogged down now.
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Not with all of the network upgrades Sprint is going through.
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My wife wants one...(gave the htc evo a shot but kept her blackberry in the end).
the question is...how much more will sprint hike its monthly prices for an iphone?
Sweet! Exactly what Apple needs. The more choices for the iPhone, the better. Sprint doesn't have a great many high-end phones but the iPhone should compensate for that.
BTW for apple lovers - IPhone 5 its supposed to support both systems CDMA and GSM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/238634/iphone_5_expected_to_have_dualmode_capabilities.html
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BTW for apple lovers - IPhone 5 its supposed to support both systems CDMA and GSM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/238634/iphone_5_expected_to_have_dualmode_capabilities.html
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It would probably be firmware dependent for whichever carrier it comes from. I can't see carriers going along with a phone that can be easily used on another network.
Hmmm who knows, maybe apple will make one iphone 5 that complies with GSM and CDMA bands for all the networks...somehow lock up the extra bands and use them for international roaming.
Wasn't Sprint supposedly going to announce some sort of great news this fall? I hope this wasn't their great news. I was hoping for a vast network upgrade. Iphone5 is the last thing that Sprint needs on their network. Very few have access to Sprints small 4G wimax network and the Iphone5 most likely won't be Wimax capable. Judging by the speed at which Sprint has rolled out their 4G, I doubt that their 3G network will be capable of handling the influx of Iphone fanboys. Sorry to be so negative, but I went through this same crap with AT&T back when they got the first Iphone and the network went to junk overnight.
I hope Sprint proves me wrong since I recently renewed my contract. Won't have to wait long to find out!
Jason
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Wasn't Sprint supposedly going to announce some sort of great news this fall? I hope this wasn't their great news. I was hoping for a vast network upgrade. Iphone5 is the last thing that Sprint needs on their network. Very few have access to Sprints small 4G wimax network and the Iphone5 most likely won't be Wimax capable. Judging by the speed at which Sprint has rolled out their 4G, I doubt that their 3G network will be capable of handling the influx of Iphone fanboys. Sorry to be so negative, but I went through this same crap with AT&T back when they got the first Iphone and the network went to junk overnight.
I hope Sprint proves me wrong since I recently renewed my contract. Won't have to wait long to find out!
Jason
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I agree!!!! They need to get these multimode towers and rev b and rolled out ASAP and move voice to old iden frequency if they expect to take on the iphone! cuz it wont be only current sprint customers looking to upgrade but undoubtedly some iphoners from at&t and maybe even verizon will jump ship to sprint for various reasons. Id estimate at least 10,000 iphones on sprint by the end of the year...
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I agree!!!! They need to get these multimode towers and rev b and rolled out ASAP and move voice to old iden frequency if they expect to take on the iphone! cuz it wont be only current sprint customers looking to upgrade but undoubtedly some iphoners from at&t and maybe even verizon will jump ship to sprint for various reasons. Id estimate at least 10,000 iphones on sprint by the end of the year...
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10,000 eh? LOL. Think in millions my friend.
And to the Guy who contemplated that they would charge more for iPhone than android.. they won't.
Personally I wouldn't want an iPhone over an android. Also I wouldn't want sprint over T-Mobile because of their high prices without reasoning.
Also, I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed that all carriers get the same hardware because it has cdma and GSM hardware, and each carrier will have their phones locked to their carrier. You will be able to buy unlocked phones(as you can any phone) and a carrier will of course be happy to set you up on their service. I don't think there is a valid reason this wouldn't be the case.
Apple made the move to cdma /GSM devices to avoid hardware fragmentation, that way ios works the same on all current devices, making it easier to upgrade ios and build apps for.
The single thing that makes ALL apple products outperform most competitors is that all of their devices only make up a few dozen hardware profiles, of which they support the 2-3 most recent. This is why ios4 only works on iphone3g and more recent, lion only works on more recent MacBook/airs/etc hardware.
Much easier to support a handful of hardware configurations(apple model) than hundreds/thousands of Chipset/hardware combinations(all PC's or androids). Apple realizes that limiting hardware combinations AND functionality will provide a more stable/smooth experience, be easier to keep updated, though less innovative(not allowing basic functions like saving and managing file system) and competitive. Hence why you kind of have to be in the apple cult or have a REAL use for their devices to desire it over a PC or android platform.
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10,000 eh? LOL. Think in millions my friend.
And to the Guy who contemplated that they would charge more for iPhone than android.. they won't.
Personally I wouldn't want an iPhone over an android. Also I wouldn't want sprint over T-Mobile because of their high prices without reasoning.
Also, I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed that all carriers get the same hardware because it has cdma and GSM hardware, and each carrier will have their phones locked to their carrier. You will be able to buy unlocked phones(as you can any phone) and a carrier will of course be happy to set you up on their service. I don't think there is a valid reason this wouldn't be the case.
Apple made the move to cdma /GSM devices to avoid hardware fragmentation, that way ios works the same on all current devices, making it easier to upgrade ios and build apps for.
The single thing that makes ALL apple products outperform most competitors is that all of their devices only make up a few dozen hardware profiles, of which they support the 2-3 most recent. This is why ios4 only works on iphone3g and more recent, lion only works on more recent MacBook/airs/etc hardware.
Much easier to support a handful of hardware configurations(apple model) than hundreds/thousands of Chipset/hardware combinations(all PC's or androids). Apple realizes that limiting hardware combinations AND functionality will provide a more stable/smooth experience, be easier to keep updated, though less innovative(not allowing basic functions like saving and managing file system) and competitive. Hence why you kind of have to be in the apple cult or have a REAL use for their devices to desire it over a PC or android platform.
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Lol i was being conservative in the fact that some androiders might stick with it rather than jumping ship but yea millions in prolly a more accurate number... i wish it wasn't cuz that means even slower 3g speeds compared to now... hopefully Sprint will grab the bull by the horns with this series of network upgrades to accomodate this new fanbase.
I can understand not just the iPhone phobia ...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20096567-94/sprint-iphone-brings-its-share-of-problems/
For all you folks complaining about AT&T capping your download speeds, it appears it's only going to get worse. The federal government so far has not made any progress toward getting additional spectrum available, forcing carriers to make do with what they've got. As the article in the link below notes, "Ultimately, carriers will have to get more creative about how they use their existing spectrum, which will likely result in stricter caps on usage. Consumers who use more data will likely be charged higher prices for that data."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-57379526-266/how-politics-inflame-the-spectrum-crisis/?tag=nl.e404
In the short run, you might jump to another carrier, but in the long run, it could get worse for everyone. Lightsquare has been effectively stopped (for now) from building a new wireless network because of the potential for interfering with GPS signals. AT&T has been stopped from acquiring T-Mobile which would have given AT&T more spectrum.
So, as bad as things seem now, this may be the best that they will be.
PS: Also see this article:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...-suffer/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
The FCC really needs to figure out how they are going to auction off the spectrum. Also, the whole ATT/T-mobile merger should have gone through. ATT is the only company that is compatible with T-mobile's equipment and can afford them.
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The FCC really needs to figure out how they are going to auction off the spectrum. Also, the whole ATT/T-mobile merger should have gone through. ATT is the only company that is compatible with T-mobile's equipment and can afford them.
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it was cited that the decrees in competition would hurt every one and the loss of high paying jobs was to great
Aww that's bull does the fed gov have contract with Verizon or somethin? Coz a merger like that would surely put them out of commission
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Cingular. Aka ma bell was broken up before for having a monopoly. Monopolies are bad for consumers, if any of you have graduated high school you should know this. Cingular has thus bought all tel, at&t, and now wants t-mobile. Creating another monopoly would not net us any better prices.
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Verizon bought alltel
So your saying Verizon is At&ts only competition ??? Lol
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Cingular. Aka ma bell was broken up before for having a monopoly. Monopolies are bad for consumers, if any of you have graduated high school you should know this. Cingular has thus bought all tel, at&t, and now wants t-mobile. Creating another monopoly would not net us any better prices.
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Cingular was not Ma Bell, it was a seperate company that purchased the failing wireless portion of At&t. Which was then purchased back by att, which wad really a rebranded SBC
Also Verizon purchased Alltel.
Good story though.
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How does the merger or buy out of T-Mobile from AT&T help the consumer in any sense? Less companies out there competing, the higher your prices are gonna be, simple as that. If verizon goes, all those consumers have to go somewhere....
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How does the merger or buy out of T-Mobile from AT&T help the consumer in any sense? Less companies out there competing, the higher your prices are gonna be, simple as that. If verizon goes, all those consumers have to go somewhere....
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One reason AT&T wanted to buy T-Mobile was to use its network to more rapidly expand its LTE network. Also, the two systems are compatible in some ways, making a transition easier.
As to competition as a way hold down prices, the major carriers (AT&T and Versizon) already control most of the market with T-Mobile and Sprint dividing a much smaller portion. Price comparisons I've seen usuaally show Verizon higher than AT&T for similar plans.
The main point I was making in the original post was that prices are likely to rise for all carriers in the long run as demand increases faster than the ability of the government and the carriers to provide adequate spectrum. The main concern should not be how many carriers there are, but whether the carriers (2 or 20) can meet the growing demand for high-speed services.
You got me about all tel, its another company I can't quite get off the tip of my tongue. Anyway.
Yes Verizon is the only real completion at&t has, tmo and sprint are too small. AT&T wireless was formed by by AT&T
AT&T wireless was doing so well they split into their own company. Sbc acquired Cingular which. At&t & Cingular were the two major companies in competition with Verizon but norther had the customer base alone to match Verizon.
Cingular bought at&t wireless and sbc bought at&t landline. Owning the rights to the name now Cingular and sbc changed their name to at&t thus gaining the same or a little more customers over Verizon. Sbc and at&t came to be when ma bell was forced to split due to monopoly.
Gobbling up the missing prices of ma bell and some small stragglers is creating another monopoly.
Just like the cable companies in many areas. There is only one and they raise there prices almost every other month. Only competition its satellite that forces you to sign contacts.
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This is why I'm glad the Tmobile merger was stopped or else things would've only gotten worse. The Government actually needs to break up Verizon and AT&T now since they are too big as it is and doing price fixing with each other.
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This is why I'm glad the Tmobile merger was stopped or else things would've only gotten worse. The Government actually needs to break up Verizon and AT&T now since they are too big as it is and doing price fixing with each other.
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However, that does not really address the basic issue here -- as data usage grows with more people using more wireless devices, the available spectrum/band-width (as it exists now) probably will not be able to keep up with the demand.
Economics 101: when demand exceeds supply, prices go up. Increasing the number of companies selling wireless service will not necessarily increase the amount of bandwidth available.
My point, is that the government, which ultimately controls wireless frequencies, has not acted in a timely manner to address the issue (with the exception of stopping a company that wanted to add more bandwidth).
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Very interesting article
Australia is just as bad with a lazy government. This NBN (National Broadband Network) appears to be nothing more than a spin from the Labor government, which can be an example of people who use lots of data suffering at the hands of lazy morons who really have no excuse for it.
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I feel sorry for those on AT&T's old unlimited plan who are getting throttled.
Capping plans appears to only benefit the carrier as they make millions off those who go over the capped amount.
I used 2GB in a two days on Telstra's 4G network.
So AT&T tries to buy T-mobile for $35 BILLION, but cant afford to upgrade their network. What a bunch of ****.
How can I see if Im getting throttled? I can do a speed test and get a good speed, but browsing is slow.
Telstra is looking to shaping customer when they go over their limit in a couple of months. This was announced last year. As per existing solution it will Text you when you are near the cap. I beleive that once you are capped you can purchase once off topups.
So examples are:
$49 Plan gives 1G for month, with $450 for Voice SMS
$59 gives 1.5G with $550 for Voice (free SMS /MMS)
etc
Once the shapping solution is deployed you can:
1. Not spend any more and manage to how much data you have for the month.
2. Purchase a once off data top up .
$10 = 1 Gig
$20 = 2 Gig
etc
3. Move to a offer that provide more data each month
Once implemented there will no longer be bill shock. You can then choose eactly how much you spend on data.
so when will they do this for home internet.. haha
In Australia Fixed broadband for Telstra has been capped for several years for consumer plans. So no bill shock possible on Fixed data.
As per previous post need to wait a couple more months until this capping is available for Mobiles. Then bill shock will be removed for fixed.
I don't beleive any smart long term techo believes Bill shock generates revenue it just drives loyal customers away, that might choose to use them for the next 30 years.
Alright so I've been looking around on various Android forums and people seem to be very upset that there is no CDMA variant of the Nexus 4 announced so far. Coming from the Sprint/Verizon Galaxy Nexus, I am glad that they're not bothering this time around because CDMA goes against what the Nexus brand stands for, openness.
These carriers are very self-contained. You can only purchase phones to use on their network from them. Want a unlocked phone? You're out of luck BUT you can purchase the phone from their website off contract or you can go and get one from eBay or Craigslist. Because of this, the carriers have manufacturers by the balls, especially when it comes to updating phones. Want to get an update? You'll have to wait until these carriers "inspect" the update to ensure that it is not "harmful to the network" and all that PR crap they go on and on about.
Anyways, CDMA would mean that Google/LG would have to make a 4G LTE variant since these carriers only sell 4G phones now and Google doesn't seem too happy about how the CDMA variants of the GNex turned out last time. The updates were untimely to say the absolute least and the battery life was horrendous. I'm sure that the guys at Google had one hell of a time disputing against the crapware that Verizon/Sprint wanted to put on their phones so they could get a quick buck from Blockbuster and whatever other useless advertisements and applications they put on there now days.
If you want a Nexus phone, jump over to another carrier. I'm finally going over to T-Mobile and I'm getting unlimited data/text and a hundred minutes (which won't be used because I use GrooVe for voice over data/WiFi) for $30 a month. The entire move is going to cost me less than $400 and I'm sure you all have phones that you could sell to get over here. It really is the better move and the HSPA+ is amazingly fast without the battery drain.
My only option for a carrier is Verizon or sprint. At&t and T-Mobile only have gprs where my grandparents live, and I need internet for work. I'm upset there isn't a CDMA variant.
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I'm pretty excited about making the move to GSM and prepaid service. Any smartphone I've ever had was either Sprint and now Verizon. I can't even get an hour and a half of on-screen time with my Verizon gnex. It'll constantly switch from 3g to LTE and most of the time get stuck in the middle, looking for signal and draining the battery, it's horrendous.
I'm glad that there isn't a CDMA variant because CDMA is dead-end technology, and anything that brings about its demise sooner is a good thing IMO. Whatever the original technical merits were that CDMA held over GSM have pretty much become nonexistent as I understand it, and you give up the huge advantage of being able to easily switch carriers without purchasing a new phone. Anyone who's spent time outside the US and in an open GSM phone system knows how nice it is to be able to switch carriers at will.
But also Google's rationale for not including LTE makes a lot more sense with no CDMA variant. As the OP mentioned, a CDMA variant would absolutely HAVE to have LTE. Verizon's EV-DO network is still Rev. A, right? That's disgustingly slow in today's day and age, and while it makes sense that the CDMA carriers would have skipped over later revisions of EV-DO and go straight to LTE, it also means they're in an "LTE or bust" situation right now. GSM networks have a much better upgrade path, and 42mbps HSPA+ is more than fast enough for just about anything you'd want to do on a phone.
Personally I'm happy with the decision, because as a GSM user I see no need to frantically jump on the LTE bandwagon. I'd much rather take better battery life and a lower phone cost than have a transmission standard that is overkill for the vast majority of phone applications forced down my throat.
You all don't remember that GSM Nexus devices always come out first. CDMA phones will most likely come out months later, and with higher storage to generate buzz. Google knows better than to shut out ~20 million subscribers.
I'm pretty confident they are offering such low priced unlocked phones to try and get as many people into their ecosystem as possible. Ignoring CDMA users is not consistent with that, so just like before, it'll likely be 1 to 5 months before we see 32gb CDMA phones later on.
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You all don't remember that GSM Nexus devices always come out first. CDMA phones will most likely come out months later, and with higher storage to generate buzz. Google knows better than to shut out ~20 million subscribers.
I'm pretty confident they are offering such low priced unlocked phones to try and get as many people into their ecosystem as possible. Ignoring CDMA users is not consistent with that, so just like before, it'll likely be 1 to 5 months before we see 32gb CDMA phones later on.
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While I get where you're coming from, I completely disagree. Of course, I'm with a GSM carrier (and always have been), so I couldn't care less if they come out with a CDMA Nexus 4. Then again, I'm one of those people that don't believe the Galaxy Nexus offered by Verizon and Sprint was an actual Nexus device. If a phone's updates are coming from a carrier and not straight from Google...that's not a true Nexus and, frankly, you get what you deserve for thinking it is (in general terms...I'm not talking about you specifically).
I think all the reasons listed earlier are correct. I think Google got a bad taste in their mouths from having the carriers (re: Verizon and Sprint) dictate to them what they were going to do instead of the other way around. I also agree that CDMA is a dying technology and I'm also all for anything that bring that about faster. Wireless companies in the US need to get their #[email protected]% together and agree on a standard. All this GSM/CDMA/LTE crap is just confusing to consumers (not to me, but to uneducated consumers).
I firmly believe, though, that if you want a Nexus phone you need to get with a GSM carrier. Period. If by some miracle Google does release a CDMA version of the Nexus 4 later, I'll still believe you don't have a "true" Nexus phone. Only when the carriers have their hands off the updates can you actually make me believe a CDMA Nexus is a "real" Nexus.
I've been looking at the pre paid services but I have two lines since I pay for my mothers phone.
With the 1000 minute family plans it ends up making more sense for me to go that route since I'd get 2 free galaxy S2's.. One for her and I'd sell the other + my Sprint Galaxy s2 on eBay for my N4...
Very excited about moving back to T-mob after being on Sprint with **** service in my area for almost a year.
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As a Verizon User, I was so ready for the Nexus 5 to come out on Verizon and when it didn't, yet the hardware supported it, I knew there had to be a way to get this device to run on Verizon's Network. So, naturally I looked around on Forums and such and here is what we know right now:
- The WTR1625L Built by Qualcomm (The Same chip in the G2) Does in fact have hardware support for Verizon
- The Nexus 5 DOES recognize Verizon as a network and has even allowed some users to browse on Band 4 LTE Shown here
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847&page=32)
- CDMA Voice and Band 13 Currently do not work (As Expected)
- A User named Ken GS4 over on the Google Forums here, was in fact able to have his Nexus 5's IMEI registered and active inside of Verizon's Database, and then theoretically, should "Activate". Now, Ken has stated that the phone would not work on CDMA or Band 13 however he does not live in a band 4 area and was unable to check on that
(http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/Jv9FAwucMWM/7pIfTKxY5yUJ)
- Additionally, Ken had stated that the Verizon Wireless employees told him that on their end everything checked out and so, it had to be something in the Firmware that would be blocking it
- Some users on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847 have attempted flashing the LG G2 Radios at no avail, so unless those files are heavily modded in order to allow the Nexus 5 to turn on without a boot loop, that solution is out.
So, It looks as though all of us Verizon Users need a developer to look deep into the code, find what is blocking the Verizon network, and create a flashable zip which could remedy the solution and allow the WTR1625L to work as it does in the G2 but without any blockage. Now, developers, as we know, are busy and need to put food on the table. So, I propose we start a kickstarter/IndieGogo Campaign, along with a WILLING DEVELOPER, and have all of us Verizon users put our money where our mouths are. We would need to raise enough money to get a Developer a Nexus 5, and enough for a Verizon plan for at least a month, along with some extra cash to allow him/her to have payment for completing this incredibly large task. So, We are calling out to you, THE DEVELOPERS, to contact me so I can create a kickstarter/indiegogo campaign in your name, so that you can raise enough money to help all of us Get This Phone working on Big Red!!!
Screw Verizon. I left them after 5 years of sh!tty droid phones. I even had grandfathered unlimited data.
N5->VZW=Headache
Solution :
Sell N5 + Buy VZW G2=No Headache
Just sayin....
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Nexus will never "officially" be on Verizon again
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
It will probably never happen I was with VZW for 10 years and I just switched to att and its been so much better just get out if u can.
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If Verizon wanted the phone on their network they would have made a deal with LG/Google to do so legally. It seems to me an attempt to hack software to allow a phone to operate on a private company's bandwidth smacks of being illegal. If they wanted it, it would already be there. If you love the phone, take it where it works. If you live VZW, then pick something in their product line.
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
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And THIS is the reason I am switching to T-Mo next month after 15 years with VZW. The GNex debacle was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Can't wait to have a REAL Nexus.
sorry verizon people, your just going to have to accept that verizon will not ever get a nexus device, due to how they handled the galaxy nexus. And they shouldnt after that.(
I left verizon & unlimited data about a month & a half ago. Sure, I hated to lose unlimited data. But, I wanted the N5. Sometimes you have to make hard decisions. Give up the good fight with verizon, you will not prevail. Leave as soon as you can if you can have good service with another provider.
um, WTR1625L is the transceiver. there are other components that need to be compatible (modem which is inside the snapdragon 800 chip, antennas)
you probably need to modify modem as well.... good luck finding the source code (FCC regulates the baseband) or hacking it
I'm gone from Verizon too. Have only found one place where I get no signal on tmo and in fact have a better signal in my office than I ever did on vzw. To the poster above, why would you lose unlimited? I'm on prepaid unlimited everything. Don't miss vzw too much. They won't legally allow a true nexus on their network any time soon so if you want a nexus you better be prepared to leave big red...
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A lot of people don't seem to understand that Verizon throttles people's bandwith once they hit a certain limit on their data. It's still unlimited, but you'll be getting it a lot slower eventually if you use a lot of data. The same goes with any "unlimited" data plan from prepaid carriers these days, you typically pay for a certain amount of data at "full 4G/LTE speeds" and then once you hit that limit, you get throttled down to a slower download and upload rate.
I'm on Aio Wireless and get 8+/- mbps on LTE (They cap you at 8mbps on LTE), but once I hit my limit, I go to 256kbps which is still plenty fast enough to surf the web. You're not going to stream netflix in HD off of that little bandwith, but for many people it'll do the job just fine for facebook, surfing the web, checking emails, etc.
I left Verizon a year ago, and I'll never go back to them ever. Even if they lowered their prices to be competitive with T-Mobile or other prepaid carriers, it's not worth their bloatware loaded phones, cdma network, or software update timeline.
Verizon will never get a nexus. Nor do they deserve one. They hold off updates etc. And that's not what a nexus is about. I had unlimited data on Verizon. And was with then for 10+ years. Sold my **** and left. Got straight talk using att towers. It's been a month and I'm much better off.
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A bit of an analogous story, I bought an HP touchpad during the firesale and the community back then was so hellbent on getting android to work on the HP tablet because the native webos was a dying ecosystem. Lo and behold a bunch of developers actually managed to get Android onto the HP touchpad but it didn't run very well because the touchpad's hardware wasn't optimized for android to begin with. It was a crappy, unstable experience.
Alot of credit and Kudos go to the developers who made this possible, however. Those guys were amazing but the long and short of it is that you're going to be making a huge effort to get a subpar experience. If you can't break from the Verizon network, you might as well just get something which is officially supported or naively runs on the Verizon network.
TLR you're putting a bunch of effort in achieving a subpar experience at best.
Just leave Verizon. They charge way too much and have crap phones. Jump ship to T-Mobile or att
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Jesus people just don't understand. it's technically just not feasible to use it on Verizon.
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I left verizon for ATT and am not looking back. I used to love verizon becuase of the great service but ATT has the same if not better service. I even left with a corporate discount and unlimited data. The Nexus 5 was just worth it.
Another one here that left a corporate discount and grandfathered unlimited data just to have an unadulterated Android experience with the Nexus 5. I miss the unlimited 4G and that there were more LTE towers for verizon in my area but it was a sacrifice I had to make. Saves me some $$ in the long run and I have a much better phone because of it.
why do people insist that this is possible? it's not going to work, just move on to another carrier.
Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.
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Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
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Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.
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Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.
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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.
Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.
I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.
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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.
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I had verizon wireless for 10 years and left them over a year ago for T-Mobile. I didn't regret anything. I didn't switch because of price because I could afford verizon, but their plans and phones suck and they are scam artists trying to rape every penny from you just like John Legere quoted. In my area and even in rural places in georgia I get pretty decent excellent coverage and service. At home I usually get from 80-112mbps down and 7-15mbps up. Verizon couldn't match that and hell, everyone I know that has sprint hate it and are jumping to T-Mobile because they get less than 1mbps and call quality sounds like pure ****. T-Mobile has nationwide VoLTE and WiFi calling and texting and the "Uncarrier" exclusives. I have unlimited data so I use it as my home internet since I have root for tethering unlimited data and its way faster than charters fastest speeds they deliver to my house lol. Sprint is also bad just like verizon because remember they are money hungry companies and they will lock u in contracts and can only use their cdma devices or select unlocked devices like the nexus 6. I heard verizon doesn't recognize the unlocked nexus 6, idk if that is true or not.
Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.
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I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.
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Although tethering is not supported, it does work.
There also would be no issue popping in a Cricket SIM in a Nexus 9. I've considered selling my WiFi N9 and getting a LTE N9 with a 20GB Cricket SIM.
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Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.
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Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.
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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April. Thanks though.
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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April.
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It did expire, someone is selling their account.
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Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.
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There is an app on the playstore if you have root called "WiFi Tether Router" which will work or if you want unlimited native tethering.
#1 in SQL lite go to /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db/global
#2 add " tether_dun required " and set the value to 0
#3 in your APN settings add " dun " to APN type and set your APN to IPv4 only since IPv6 doesnt support this.
Either use OpenSignal app or their site and zoom in on your neighborhood. They have a list of carriers with their average upload and download speed.
Personally I wouldn't use Sprint as OpenSignal and Rootmetrics has shown it is the slowest network across the country.
Get a AT&T GoPhone sim and try them out for a month. Walmart sells the sims. They now have rollover data on prepaid just like T-mobile. Plus they're not throttled like Cricket.
I wait for Callingmart to announce their monthly 10% off GoPhone refills on Twitter. Then refill each month saving me $6.
Just my 2¢ but I have been with Sprint for going on 8 years. Their service is great in my area (now) and their customer service has always been outstanding. While I do agree that they don't have the best coverage, they have come a long way in my time with them. You can get unlimited, TRULY unlimited data with them for a good price. They offer payment plans on the top devices and as I said, customer service has bent over backwards for me more than once. Choice is yours, OP, just do your homework and choose wisely.
I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.
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I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.
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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.
Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
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Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
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Good point. Hadn't thought about those. Thanks.
This morning my Speed Tests were decidedly better. At least 8 and as high as 12 meg. I haven't seen those numbers in months. So, (holding breath), perhaps my last call got something changed. I won't make changes unless I am sure there is no hope for change.
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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.
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Other than calling to activate new phones, I have only had to call once in all my years with Sprint and I have no complaints on it. I don't generally need service, I pay my bill and use my phone lol. As far as overseas call centers, that's not entirely true; there is a Sprint call center in my city (along with a T-Mobile call center). To each their own.
I switched from Sprint to Verizon as my family plan 4 years ago, best decision of my life. Sprint will frustrate you beyond belief with their slow data, you won't even be able to load Google. I know you said the big 2 cost too much, so I'd stay with T-Mobile if I were you, avoid Sprint at all costs. I personally love Verizon, have 5 off contract smartphones with them, 15GB shared data, and pay $153+tax a month.