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what new law would you create?

so, the question is What new law would you create? To make it more interesting please make one that is "Prohibitive law" means " Can Not blank".

htc fan89 said:
so, the question is What new law would you create? To make it more interesting please make one that is "Prohibitive law" means " Can Not blank".
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That all phone manufacturers share ideas, work together and develop the best devices for all users in mind....or that they read XDA and design devices to actual users demands

I would make it law that any television commercials are to be no louder than the actual television program

i'd make a law that would allow the public to see where each and every penny of our taxes are being spent.

My law would forbid patents on basic functions! (Why apple is sueing HTC right now ^^)

i'd make a law that would require anyone wanting to join XDA-Dev to pass an aptitude test.

I would ban software patents those and silly and only result in money for lawyers and making it easier for big companys to bully smaller ones even if they claim it's the other way around

davethetytniiguy said:
i would make it law that any television commercials are to be no louder than the actual television program :d
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HEAD-ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD. HEAD-ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD. HEAD-ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD. Now back to Spongebob.

Well one law I'd like to bring back would be capital punishment for certain crimes or at least a hand for a hand. This is the only deterrent for these people.
Examples would be for paedophiles, murderers & rapists. Think they get away to easily....if not death sentence then (for paedophiles & rapists) a hand for a hand, i.e. cut off there d**k. This would be more of a deterrent than 4-6 years in prison
Being a father myself it makes me sick what these people do and if anyone touched my son.......I'd kill them. (That would be my other law....that parents could take the law into there own hands against these people (if they did something against their child) without threat of prison/conviction)
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Fallen Spartan said:
Well one law I'd like to bring back would be capital punishment for certain crimes or at least a hand for a hand. This is the only deterrent for these people.
Examples would be for paedophiles, murderers & rapists. Think they get away to easily....if not death sentence then (for paedophiles & rapists) a hand for a hand, i.e. cut off there d**k. This would be more of a deterrent than 4-6 years in prison
Being a father myself it makes me sick what these people do and if anyone touched my son.......I'd kill them. (That would be my other law....that parents could take the law into there own hands against these people (if they did something against their child) without threat of prison/conviction)
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Welll, at at least will still have the death penalty. Here in Texas, they know how to use it... For the most part. I don't like that they try to make it as painless and "humane" as possible. I mean, for f**k's sake, you're killing somebody who deserves to be killed for one reason or another, and you're going to give him a last minute alcohol swab to keep what you're doing "humane?" Bullsh*t. Just bring back the electric chair or something.

all hot babes should be nekkid

~~Tito~~ said:
HEAD-ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD. HEAD-ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD. HEAD-ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD. Now back to Spongebob.
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I lol'd, reminds me of this.

My law would have the schools pay taxes to the property owners

-Full rights to beat the sh*t out of bad drivers
-Full rights to beat the sh*t out of SUV owners that don't realize their vehicles are unsafe and don't have more control going 60MPH/100KmPH
-All music and movies are traded free after their "tours"
-prostitution legal
-hating/protesting against homosexuals results in jailtime

F-YOU Sony!!

Ok, so I figured this would be the best place to post this. This directly relates to EVERYONE here.
If this lawsuit gets passed we are ALL screwed. Essentially, Sony is trying to get a case passed against some security researchers that have been able to "jailbreak", "root", "reimage" their PS3s so that they can once again put an "OtherOS" on like when they originally released. BUT, they are not stopping their, they are trying to get a precedent passed that would allow a device manufacturer to bring legal actions against people for modifying their devices AFTER they have purchased them. Meaning, in our case, if you buy a phone and modify the OS from exactly what the manufacturer has "approved" YOU are committing a CRIMINAL OFFENCE.
I SAY "F-YOU SONY!!!"
This is directly from the EFF, Electronic Frontier Foundation, if you are unaware of who they are or what they do I stress to everyone here that you learn a little about them from www.eff.org.
January 19th, 2011
Sony v. Hotz: Sony Sends A Dangerous Message to Researchers -- and Its Customers
Commentary
Co-authored by Corynne McSherry and Marcia Hofmann
For years, EFF has been warning that the anti-circumvention provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act can be used to chill speech, particularly security research, because legitimate researchers will be afraid to publish their results lest they be accused of circumventing a technological protection measure. We've also been concerned that the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act could be abused to try to make alleged contract violations into crimes.
We've never been sorrier to be right. These two things are precisely what's happening in Sony v. Hotz. If you have missed this one, Sony has sued several security researchers for publishing information about security holes in Sony’s PlayStation 3. At first glance, it's hard to see why Sony is bothering — after all, the research was presented three weeks ago at the Chaos Communication Congress and promptly circulated around the world. The security flaws discovered by the researchers allow users to run Linux on their machines again — something Sony used to support but recently started trying to prevent. Paying lawyers to try to put the cat back in the bag is just throwing good money after bad. And even if they won — we'll save the legal analysis for another post — the defendants seem unlikely to be able to pay significant damages. So what's the point?
The real point, it appears, is to send a message to security researchers around the world: publish the details of our security flaws and we'll come after you with both barrels blazing. For example, Sony has asked the court to immediately impound all "circumvention devices" — which it defines to include not only the defendants' computers, but also all "instructions," i.e., their research and findings. Given that the research results Sony presumably cares about are available online, granting the order would mean that everyone except the researchers themselves would have access to their work.
Not content with the DMCA hammer, Sony is also bringing a slew of outrageous Computer Fraud and Abuse Act claims. The basic gist of Sony's argument is that the researchers accessed their own PlayStation 3 consoles in a way that violated the agreement that Sony imposes on users of its network (and supposedly enabled others to do the same). But the researchers don't seem to have used Sony's network in their research — they just used the consoles they bought with their own money. Simply put, Sony claims that it's illegal for users to access their own computers in a way that Sony doesn't like. Moreover, because the CFAA has criminal as well as civil penalties, Sony is actually saying that it's a crime for users to access their own computers in a way that Sony doesn't like.
That means Sony is sending another dangerous message: that it has rights in the computer it sells you even after you buy it, and therefore can decide whether your tinkering with that computer is legal or not. We disagree. Once you buy a computer, it's yours. It shouldn't be a crime for you to access your own computer, regardless of whether Sony or any other company likes what you're doing.
Finally, even if the researchers had used Sony's network, Sony's claim that it's a crime to violate its terms of use has been firmly rejected by courts in cases like United States v. Drew and Facebook v. Power Ventures. As those courts have recognized, companies like Sony would have tremendous coercive power if they could enforce their private, unilateral and easy-to-change agreements with threats of criminal punishment.
Sony's core arguments — that it can silence speech that reveals security flaws using the DMCA and that the mere fact of a terms of use somewhere gives a company permanent and total control over what you do with a device under pain of criminal punishment — are both sweeping and frightening, and not just for gamers and computer researchers. Frankly, it's not what we expect from any company that cares about its customers, and we bet it's not what those customers expect, either.
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Related Issues: Coders' Rights Project, DMCA, Free Speech, Innovation, Terms Of (Ab)Use
Related Cases: Facebook v. Power Ventures, US v. Drew
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looks like they wont be releasing the bootloader for the x10 any time soon....

Next thing you know car manufactures will be trying to get legal approval so if somebody modifies the car in anyway they will be committing criminal offense.........yeah right! lol
But seriously, we pay so much money for a device and not being able to modify it freely is just dumb. Personally I would sell those devices and not bother to buy any anymore since I wouldn't want to support such a company with such a attitude.

I think it is kinda fun.
As I jumped to the page I had been logged out and what was the add that was displayed in my original post??
Discounts on PS3s, games, and move. Ironic, dontchya think??
LOL

Actually even if sony wins it will only apply to consoles (for now), but if they lose the legal precedent will be changed from allowing mobile phones (a closed system) to be modified to allowing game consoles, mobile phones, and who knows what else. This is a bit of old news if you keep up on the psp/ps3 scene though but still interesting and at times funny. If you guys want to see the guy in question here http://www.ps3-hacks.com/2011/01/14/attack-of-the-show-with-geohot/ it's the same guy who jailbroke the iphone for the first time. He beat apple before, now let's see sony go down and even more systems open up legally.

But seriously, we pay so much money for a device and not being able to modified freely is just dumb.

start getting use to it now
it used to be that the huge companies couldnt stop people from hacking, so they just kept tabs on it and used the threat of losing your account as 'leverage'.
now that they have the upper hand, the law will work with them much more.
sony always had the updates trick. again, they couldnt stop people hacking, but the hackers couldnt hide it either, so a new update messed up your hacks and sometimes your device.
now they are gonna give you all hell...
you think sony wants you to play your own mp3s and watch your own videos???
if sony had the power to stop you eating food that you didnt buy through playstation, they would happily watch you starve to death.
its the entertainment industry. key word: industry, ie, to make money.
if they made a better device, with more fair options instead of trying to milk everyone dry, then they would gain so much from the people like me (and millions others) that dont want to give them our money because they are ****s.

I bet they'd make a lot more money if they allowed modifications, and supported them (for a price!)

wow... if they did that android devices would go extinct... theyre barely functional without mods

You guys are missing the point. If sony wins it only applies to systems not already in the DMCA which right now says "mobile phones". We're safe regardless unless you're also into console/handheld modding. Sony is just throwing a hissy-fit because their security got bent over a barrel.

I though people jailbroke the PS3 so they can play PS2 games because, you know, the PS3 can't do that.
j/k I think this is a bad move by Sony. How is jailbreaking a console any different than jaibreaking a mobile phone? Someone please explain that to me.

kizzmyanthia said:
...they are trying to get a precedent passed that would allow a device manufacturer to bring legal actions against people for modifying their devices AFTER they have purchased them. Meaning, in our case, if you buy a phone and modify the OS from exactly what the manufacturer has "approved" YOU are committing a CRIMINAL OFFENCE.....
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what if i steal a phone, and modify it, or if someone gives it to me as a gift

corporation > human
so
money > human
thats how it is nowdays
btw didnt apple try the same thing with jb-ing and they ruled jb is legal but voids warranty at the end ?
are u some apple fanboy or ur head just got pulled out of something warm and moisty ?

souljaboy said:
corporation > human
so
money > human
thats how it is nowdays
btw didnt apple try the same thing with jb-ing and they ruled jb is legal but voids warranty at the end ?
are u some apple fanboy or ur head just got pulled out of something warm and moisty ?
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Methinks the jailbreak precedent makes it impossible for Sony to get any traction in this case. The jailbreak precedent has been set in stone and the judges have already tossed out cases involving jailbreaks.
The only winners in this case will be lawyers.

sakai4eva said:
Methinks the jailbreak precedent makes it impossible for Sony to get any traction in this case. The jailbreak precedent has been set in stone and the judges have already tossed out cases involving jailbreaks.
The only winners in this case will be lawyers.
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Thankfully you're right. This has been covered by the cydia case.
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Store torrent music in cloud - lawsuits?

If someone were to upload their music/videos to a cloud service such as amazon cloud or google music, would legal action force the service to open users stored files to scrutiny by investigators looking to sue for copyright infringement?
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I can't see how they could tell the source of the music even if they had access to it. They'd be on very shaky ground legally if they tried to gain access to it anyway. How could they dictate where people store their music?
I am sick and tired of the mafiaa tactics though. They're trying to maintain a stranglehold on their antiquated business models whilst stymying innovation, pretending they care about the artists when all they are really doing is dipping into everyones pockets to make money for themselves.
After lawyers, these people are the worst bottom feeding scum on the planet. I wouldn't piss on one if they were on fire, but i would dance on their graves.

ElectroGeek said:
If someone were to upload their music/videos to a cloud service such as amazon cloud or google music, would legal action force the service to open users stored files to scrutiny by investigators looking to sue for copyright infringement?
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Hmm... will be illegal/impossible on several fronts. I'll try explaining from both the legal and technological point of view. We'll start with the legal.
LEGAL
First, they need to prove that the music is:
1. Copyright belongs to them
2. Under your current ownership
3. You didn't get it legally
To do that, they will need to prove that the entire song has been obtained from an illegal source, and that you are currently using/having it.
TECHNOLOGICAL
The limitation is on two ends here:
1. They need to identify the song
2. They need to identify that you've gotten the song illegally
So, long story short, there is a chance for that to happen, because they might be able to prove where you downloaded the music from.
Stay safe. Stay behind 7 proxies.

So to be clear, you could be facing a lawsuit. Need some more info on this. I want to use these services, but...
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DirkGently1 said:
I can't see how they could tell the source of the music even if they had access to it. They'd be on very shaky ground legally if they tried to gain access to it anyway. How could they dictate where people store their music?
I am sick and tired of the mafiaa tactics though. They're trying to maintain a stranglehold on their antiquated business models whilst stymying innovation, pretending they care about the artists when all they are really doing is dipping into everyones pockets to make money for themselves.
After lawyers, these people are the worst bottom feeding scum on the planet. I wouldn't piss on one if they were on fire, but i would dance on their graves.
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Dance on their grave while pissing your pants?

ElectroGeek said:
If someone were to upload their music/videos to a cloud service such as amazon cloud or google music, would legal action force the service to open users stored files to scrutiny by investigators looking to sue for copyright infringement?
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Question is i guess is: How would the cloud server even now if its Legit or not ?
although i hope that it would all be legally paid for

DanWilson said:
Dance on their grave while pissing your pants?
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Wouldn't be the first time....

This is on-topic:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/27/robertson_predicts_cloud_music_victor/
Let's hope EMI lose this case.

I do not think it will happen.
When I first read about the Amazon Cloud service, almost every news article said that Amazon themselves might be getting sued for the service. I did/do not understand this either. Seeing as it is my music, and Amazon is offering a storage space for it, why could it bring any lawsuit to Amazon?

mallend said:
I do not think it will happen.
When I first read about the Amazon Cloud service, almost every news article said that Amazon themselves might be getting sued for the service. I did/do not understand this either. Seeing as it is my music, and Amazon is offering a storage space for it, why could it bring any lawsuit to Amazon?
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Because big media don't want you to do anything with the music that you paid for without being able to charge you more for doing it.
Don't forget that you don't own that music. You're only paying for the right to use it under their terms and conditions.

Any other news on this. Any press etc.
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Anybody have any more news on this topic?
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Back in the good old days of LP's and cassettes, nobody ever threatened a lawsuit if you made a cassette copy of a record or of another cassette.
Edit: That is, unless you made a couple of hundred copies and were selling them on the street corner.

TravisBean said:
Back in the good old days of LP's and cassettes, nobody ever threatened a lawsuit if you made a cassette copy of a record or of another cassette.
Edit: That is, unless you made a couple of hundred copies and were selling them on the street corner.
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Actually, they did, but it wasn't widespread, and the business model wasn't that good. Now we have organized crime in Asia doing it.

[INFO] Megaupload has been shut down and the founders arrested

Thread closed. There is already many threads about this. ~TRM
In case anyone is noticing that megaupload links aren't responding.
Megaupload finished: Feds shut down file-sharing giant without SOPA
MegaUpload Shut Down by the Feds, Founder Arrested
Here's the actual indictment filed in an Alexandria, Virginia, US court;
Mega-Indictment
It doesn't look like the service will back anytime soon, so folks may want to consider utilizing other services for uploads, etc.
Good Luck..
Addendum:
Deleted the reference to SOPA/PIPA in my subject heading because this action has nothing to do with those laws. SOPA/PIPA are designed to implement measures so that "suspected" "piracy" sites can have their DNS entries blocked from US internet users which will frustrate efforts to access those sites, and to take away revenue by stopping credit card companies from doing business with them. IOW these are laws targeting the so-called "end users".
This action against Megaupload was a straight up site takedown and arrest of the founders, which was obviously coordinated with multiple law enforcement agencies from multiple countries. (At least the US and New Zealand were involved). This was action targeting the so-called "suppliers".
Having said that, if you're a US voter you should make sure you let your US Congress representatives know how you feel about SOPA/PIPA. Even if phase one of the web protests are over for now.

Horrible day for humanity....
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They charged people to see copyrighted content. screw them

messed up, 2012 will be a crazy year, millions of websites will get shutdown, with or without sopa =/

http://gizmodo.com/5877679/anonymous-kills-department-of-justice-site-in-megaupload-revenge-strike
Anonymous is striking back.

Wow
this getting out of hand.. The gov needs to chill out ... If we continue down this path we will end up like north Korea .. No offense btw

1984 g.o.
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What!?
I use icefilms to watch all mt TV and ice uses all MU links...
I had a 2 year sub for MU too...
Their download speeds were the best!

HRodMusic said:
messed up, 2012 will be a crazy year, millions of websites will get shutdown, with or without sopa =/
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Theyre really showing ppl how SOPA/PIPA can hurt him. If this is what they can do WITHOUT it, im afraid to think what kind of rampage theyll go on after.

Im glad there is nothing else wrong with the country, that the goverment has this kind of thing to focus on.

Wow is all i can say.

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Im glad there is nothing else wrong with the country, that the goverment has this kind of thing to focus on.
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Correct!
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Edited OP.

Megaupload should be taken down
and this is a good example that the current laws in the book are good enough if they just enforce them. There is no need for SOPA/PIPA.
Megauploads business model asks for money to see others copyrighted content.
Torrent sites on the other hand dont make any money and are much more complicated legally yet those got taken down before Megaupload. Megaupload should of been the first.

And so began the WAR...

MU business model is unethical. As so many, many copy cats out there such as filesonic, 4shared. It's only matter of time before they get taken down. Megaupload is just an example.

jim93 said:
Megaupload should be taken down
and this is a good example that the current laws in the book are good enough if they just enforce them. There is no need for SOPA/PIPA.
Megauploads business model asks for money to see others copyrighted content.
Torrent sites on the other hand dont make any money and are much more complicated legally yet those got taken down before Megaupload. Megaupload should of been the first.
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Either you're ignorant or your just stupid. MU did not promote copyright material at all, it took down anything that was flagged as infringing. Many many people use MU, doctors sharing cancer cures. Scientists sharing data, teachers sharing work for data, the list goes on. They only charges for premium access which only gave you unlimited download speeds and no limits. With or without you could download copyright material.
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President Obama has taken a stance against SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act), a bill that would allow the justice department to force Internet providers and search engines to block all sites accused of copyright infringement.
For now, it appears that President Obama has stalled the controversial legislation. Read the details according to Forbes.com:
“The growing anti-SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) support that has swept through the gaming and Internet community found a very big ally today. With websites like Reddit and Wikipedia and gaming organizations like Major League Gaming prepared for a blackout on January 18th – the same day that the House Judiciary Committee hearing on HR 3261was scheduled in Washington, D.C. – President Barack Obama has stepped in and said he would not support the bill.
SOPA has been delayed, for now. The House has agreed to revisit the issue next month, but they now know the White House will veto any bill that’s not more narrowly focused.
Much to the chagrin of Hollywood, the Entertainment Software Association (which has been a backer of the bill from early on), and Internet domain company GoDaddy.com (which lost many accounts as a result of its support for the bill); SOPA has been shelved. The Motion Picture Association of America, one of the bill’s largest sponsors, is expected to regroup.”

I foresee prohibition-style shakedowns and takedowns. This issue is going to explode as the two sides engage in strikes and counterstrikes, but I do hope cooler heads prevail.
All respect to other opinions voiced here, but megaupload facilitated a great deal of sketchy shenanigans and did not appear to police its site effectively enough. Of course, a task like that is gargantuan.
I wonder, though, if the g-men will also shut down YouTube and arrest its principals as well? I suspect there is more pirated intellectual property there than on most of the rest of the internet combined. What would make YouTube exempt, and would such an exemption be fair?
"Soup" or no soup, the coming months will prove historic in the life of the internet, an internet that will be forced to grow up beyond the walled garden of its adolescence and thence to play by the rules of the rest of society. You heard it here, folks: The age of internet innocence is over, and sopa/pipa are just early, clumsy practice shots as the media industry and legislators gauge public opinion before launching a more calculated assault.
This is why the retaliatory actions of Anonymous and others cause me great concern. I think they will turn public sentiment against the internet community, paint all opponents of sopa and pipa and similar bad legislation as wildeyed bandits, and thus embolden the powers that be to insist on draconian measures that will force the internet to mature too quickly, severely undermining its usefulness in the process.

About me

Hey everyone, my name is Anthony Hrdlicka and I'm from the U.S. I was born in Chicago, Illinois, however I'm currently residing in Hot Springs, Arkansas and I was in the U.S. Army for 2 and a half years learning Field Artillery Communications (my MOS specifically was 13D, Field Artillery Automated Tactical Data System Specialist, however I can't go into the specifics of my job or what I did specifically in the army as that would go against the protocols that the U.S. Army put in place even though I'm now a retired veteran). I am a passion and dedicated gamer at heart and I have love for technology (even if I have dedication for what the government considers illegal in their eyes) beyond a lot of others. I'm 27 years old right now and I was born June 25, 1995. Despite being a veteran, I regret ever having been in the military and I regret to say that even though it's true. During those two and a half years, I was treated like complete ... and my chain of command had absolutely no respect for me whatsoever or my feelings, so I have negative feelings regarding government whatsoever and I've begun to have a different outlook regarding the governments that are currently in control of us. I believe that many things that we have to pay for should in our reality actually be free, however our systems in control are money hungry and power hungry beyond our limitations. For example, does anyone remember the time when Xbox Live had silver status and you could still play Multiplayer online with your friends free of charge? Well, now you have to pay for Xbox Live Gold to even play online multiplayer games, which is ridiculous in my opinion. I am now dedicating majority of my time and research to finding ways to make some of the things we have to pay for free for the people that it should be free for, meaning all of the citizens across all nations and countries (even if the government and law enforcement doesn't like it, but ... what they say and how they treat the people they're supposed to help and put above themselves), especially for those of us that can't afford to waste money on things since our cost of living has begun to become absurdly overpriced and making it difficult for us to keep a roof over our heads (family's, friend's, and even just ours alone). If anyone needs help at any point in time regarding electronics and electronic tampering, please feel free to message me or even ask me any questions if anyone needs help and I'll gladly be of service any day of the year, 24/7.

Juggaloz6859 said:
If anyone needs help at any point in time regarding electronics and electronic tampering, please feel free to message me or even ask me any questions if anyone needs help and I'll gladly be of service any day of the year, 24/7.
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@Juggaloz6859 We'd prefer if you provide your support publicly on XDA instead of a secret and private support by private message. This is the only way that information is shared and the whole community benefits. We'd appreciate if you're able to follow XDA's stance. Thanks for your cooperation.
Second, I removed the inappropriate language from your post that you used at two occasions. XDA is a website for users of all ages! I guess that already says it all but nevertheless I suggest that you review the XDA Forum Rules, to which you agreed to adhere when you registered on this private website minutes ago, and currently the best might be to initially focus on rules no. 2, no. 6 and no. 13. Thanks very much for your cooperation.
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