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Hello all...
I just read about Android 2.2 Froyo that is scheduled to come out sometime within the next few months. What I am wondering is will I get the OTA update pushed to my phone from Google and will I be able to update?
I am running CyanogenMod 5.0.6-N1 on my Nexus One.
I apologize if this seems like a dumb question but I am a newbie to all this.
OTA will be gone after rooting, but the update will still be available for root users to be applied through recovery.
It might even leak to root users sooner as was done in the past
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Hey KnightMAREcrow...
Thanks for the reply.
But I don't understand what you mean by the update will still be available for root users to be applied through recovery. Huh?
Again sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm learning all this as I go.
afigs15 said:
Hey KnightMAREcrow...
Thanks for the reply.
But I don't understand what you mean by the update will still be available for root users to be applied through recovery. Huh?
Again sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm learning all this as I go.
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If you have rooted your phone (which you have to install cyan), you will need to put back stock recovery and stock rom in order to successfully install the OTA. What Knight said was that, usually updates such as Froyo/2.2 will be out for rooted users like you through Cyan or other Roms, so you do not have to install stock rom/rec. Just wait it Out!
Ohhhhh ok so the next Cyanogen Update should incorporate all the features that will come with Froyo....GOT IT!!!!
Thanks for the lesson...much appreciated!
Even though you aren't getting a notification about the OTA - rooted users will still be able to download a .zip and flash it through recovery just like a custom ROM. This version specifically though will not be the one Google released, I believe they will change things to in order to make it usable by us rooted users.
I don't know really though, but it looks like that is what happened with the previous OTA. Cyanogen will integrate Froyo's features into his ROM regardless, so I guess it really doesn't matter.
So i want to update my rooted captivate to 2.2 finally and i just had a few questions if you guys dont mind. non-noob of course ; )
1) I havent been keeping up with the news on the leaked 2.2 for captivate as much as i should have been but currently is there a good enough version of the leaked 2.2 to be upgrading too?
2) I was not wanting to get a rom or a build with all sorts of frillz and thrills taged along with it (like lag fixes, extra apps and all those shenanigans) , i was just wanting to get the best and newest build or leaked 2.2 for captivate; a clean version, then after that i will probably apply a lag fix of my own.
-If you could kindly link me to the correct thread of what im lookin for, thad be great! haha thx
-BTW: if you think what i plan to do is a bad idea or there are just to amny downsides to doing what im planning on doing ( just using a clean version of the leaked 2.2) please by all means i would love to hear your comments.
PS: this is sorta what im looking for (clean and simple 2.2):I just thought though that sense this is so old, there might be a better one out there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797282&page=162
thanks for the helps guys
-Kore
korext said:
So i want to update my rooted captivate to 2.2 finally and i just had a few questions if you guys dont mind. non-noob of course ; )
1) I havent been keeping up with the news on the leaked 2.2 for captivate as much as i should have been but currently is there a good enough version of the leaked 2.2 to be upgrading too?
2) I was not wanting to get a rom or a build with all sorts of frillz and thrills taged along with it (like lag fixes, extra apps and all those shenanigans) , i was just wanting to get the best and newest build or leaked 2.2 for captivate; a clean version, then after that i will probably apply a lag fix of my own.
-If you could kindly link me to the correct thread of what im lookin for, thad be great! haha thx
-BTW: if you think what i plan to do is a bad idea or there are just to amny downsides to doing what im planning on doing ( just using a clean version of the leaked 2.2) please by all means i would love to hear your comments.
PS: this is sorta what im looking for (clean and simple 2.2):I just thought though that sense this is so old, there might be a better one out there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797282&page=162
thanks for the helps guys
-Kore
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Do you need the samsung touchwiz stuff? If you only want the launcher, go for Cognition 2.3b6. Based on a captivate froyo leak and the stable captivate 2.2 that you might be looking for.
What do you mean by "if i only want the launcher", please expand on this a little more
And thx for the reply
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And also im trying to get a 2.2 with all the native apps that it would normally come with...
Dont know if that changes anything or not, just thought id add that in.
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korext said:
And also im trying to get a 2.2 with all the native apps that it would normally come with...
Dont know if that changes anything or not, just thought id add that in.
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You may want to define "native apps". Seeing as how we don't have an official release, how are we to know what is native?
And that was more than one question.
Im pretty sure that it was confirmed that 2.2 was officaly released for captivate. Its just that at&t hasnt given it to us yet.
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korext said:
Im pretty sure that it was confirmed that 2.2 was officaly released for captivate. Its just that at&t hasnt given it to us yet.
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Source? Do you know anyone at AT&T that works on Android devices?
korext said:
Im pretty sure that it was confirmed that 2.2 was officaly released for captivate. Its just that at&t hasnt given it to us yet.
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there is absolutely no OFFICIAL release of 2.2 for the captivate. it was confirmed that there are OFFICIALLY UNOFFICIAL LEAKS of 2.2
korext said:
And also im trying to get a 2.2 with all the native apps that it would normally come with...
Dont know if that changes anything or not, just thought id add that in.
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I'm guessing you want ALL the touchwiz goodness? By launcher I just mean the touchwiz launcher. Just go install one of the froyo leaks if you want everything.
What are the bad things or the downsides to just getting one of the froyo leaks, instead of getting like a cog rom
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You get a lot less options. It's a pain in the ass flashing to other roms because I believe recovery is messed up or something (I've never tried out the froyo leak but I heard so many problems with it). Devs continue working on their ROMs whereas froyo leak, it's just a leak and it's done.
Read up on stuff please and try stuff out for yourself. Know what you're flashing before you flash so that you don't have to come on XDA in desperation saying your recovery is busted or your phone is bricked. Reading helps a lot, I can tell from experience.
Aiet, thx
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Hello all-
This is my first post here, so go easy on me
Well, I am Samsung captivate user on AT&T. I am currently running 2.2 rooted. My question: Should I upgrade to AT&T's gingerbread and try to root in there, or should I just pull the trigger and go to Cyanogenmod?
It seems rooting in 2.3 is not the simple SuperOneClick that it was for 2.2, and rooting with odin actually seems MORE complicated that flashing CM7 (And I guess more risky with multiple kernel flashes, yada yada yada). I am just thinking the less steps, the safer it probably is.
I am also liking all of the features of Cyanogenmod, epically the gesture app launching from the unlock screen.
In this How-to, the guy says to download the latest nightly build. Will it work the same if I choose the 7.1 stable release (I'm going for having whatever option I choose to be my daily use (I'm not gonna be flashing ROMs every month or week)):
I'd like to post it as a link, but xda is hating me and thinks I want to spam them D) so it is youtube at watch?v=iBPu-GqM9RE
What do you guys think?
PS I'm pretty sure you can, but using Titanium backup you can just "restore" all your apps just like that, correct?
If you are still on 2.2 you are way behind the curve.
There are some things you need to know. CM7 is a great ROM but is going to be replaced eventually by CM9 as everything is progressing towards Ice Cream Sandwich based ROMs. Gingerbread is an easy upgrade done through kies even with your rooted phone. It will flash the gingerbread bootloaders that are necessary to flash all gingerbread and some Ice Cream Sandwich based ROMs. Also, if you do choose to go to gingerbread, the kernel flashing process to root is very safe and very straight forward.
Lastly, I highly suggest getting away from a stock rom and flashing a custom ROM. It will make your phone feel like a new device compared to a stock ROM of any build. And yes, you can restore with Titanium Backup but remember to only restore the apps not the data.
Ive seen multiple guides for the stock gingerbread on captivate rooting.
Could you please point me towards the right one? I wanna make sure I dont try something outdated, wrong, ect.
Also, even if I choose to go to CM9 in the near future, should I still upgrade to the stock gingerbread right now and root? Will staying on 2.2 rooted make the CM9 flash easier ( I don't have clockworkmod recovery yet, if that matters ) or will having the 2.3 stock on it make the entire process easier?
Thanks!
From 2.2 Stock you can flash directly to CM9 without changing your boot loader to Gingerbread. That will put you straight to ICS 4.0.3. However your first step is to install CWM. But yes definitely get away from stock!
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So there is no advantage to going to stock 2.3 in terms of flashing CM9 (start to finish)?
Here is the thread on how to root gingerbread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21375771
Cm9 as well as most all ice cream sandwich roms are still in beta phases so keep that in mind. If you absolutely have to have 100 percent reliability then a beta ROM is not for you.
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capocaccia said:
Here is the thread on how to root gingerbread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21375771
Cm9 as well as most all ice cream sandwich roms are still in beta phases so keep that in mind. If you absolutely have to have 100 percent reliability then a beta ROM is not for you.
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+1 to everything they said in posts above.
The only thing I would add is that while the CM9 build is beta (alpha actually) it is VERY stable. Many folks, myself included, use it a our daily driver with no real issues.
In any event, by all means, get off of stock and onto CM. You'll love it.
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Heres another thought, what is the chance that I will brick my phone, honestly, so bad it really stays just a brick?
I am just scared, as I have another 10 months till I could even consider a phone upgrade and I like the fancy android phone I have now!
If you follow the instructions then chances are pretty low. Just make sure to read and read again. Ask before you go too far. The safest way I say is to use kies to upgrade to gingerbread because that flashes the bootloaders for you. Then you can go anywhere you want from there. That is if you want to go the gingerbread route.
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dellagd said:
Heres another thought, what is the chance that I will brick my phone, honestly, so bad it really stays just a brick?
I am just scared, as I have another 10 months till I could even consider a phone upgrade and I like the fancy android phone I have now!
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You will only get a true brick if you fail during a bootloader flash. Most other "bricks" aren't really bricks at all, and can be easily recovered if you can get into download or recovery, which is usually the case.
So who here is on an Android 4.0.4 leak? (official ICS leak)
Who is still on stock gingerbread?
Who is running a custom rom?
Answer in the comments and in the poll.
Im interested to see what is being used!
--Sam
I'm on the 208 leak. Lost root cuz I went from 200 to 206 then 208 but its all good. Only bad thing is all the bloat but besides that its running pretty well so far.
Running ICS leak. 206, kept root from GB .219
I was tempted to keep updating with each new leak, but at the expense of losing root I think I'll wait for the official upgrade to be released.
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Stock rooted/debloated Gingerbread.
ICS shouldn't be that far off....waiting for the official release version. Since leaks are hitting every 12 to 13 days.....and you lose root going from one to the next.....might as well wait it out.
Running Eclipse ROM via SafeStrap. Sounds like the ICS leaks are running really well for most people. I'd just prefer to make sure I keep root and not have to worry about jumping through a bunch of hoops to update when the OTA finally drops, which can't be too far out.
Running stock. I really like AOKP, but the data issues were killing me, so I switched back. I figure once the OTA drops the ICS ROMs will work a lot better. I'm also hoping we get working 3rd party kernels.
I am running a stock ICS Leak
I am also running the stock .206 leak for the Moto Droid 4 and loving it. I haven't tried going to the new .208 leak as of yet.
I'm on .206, rooted. Very happy with it. I don't plan on upgrading again until Dan Rosenberg releases his ICS root method. As nice as ICS is...I'd rather be on GB with root than ICS without it.
wouldn't VooDoo OTA Root keeper work in all of this? I use it to maintain my root for OTA upgrades. But wouldn't it still work with a firmware push?
Just updated to 208 using Fastboot Upgrade and New ICS Root Method then recovered my files from Safe Strap for the data partition. :-D
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Just updated to 208 using Fastboot Upgrade and New ICS Root Method then recovered my files from Safe Strap for the data partition. :-D
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Did you take a nandroid, then restore the data only partition of the nandroid after you did the upgrade? THat's a great idea. I might do the same if it is that easy! Otherwise, I'll wait for a newer leak.
buying Droid soon.
I am eagerly awaiting the official ICS rollouts for Verizon, but it may be a while. The goal is not to update myself. Is ICS really all that...and worth waiting for?
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I am eagerly awaiting the official ICS rollouts for Verizon, but it may be a while. The goal is not to update myself. Is ICS really all that...and worth waiting for?
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I was a big Motoblur guy (once you debloat it of course) and even preferred it over CM9. I just liked the theme. I think the Motoblur ICS is worth it, it's ICS with a nice familiar feel to it. Is it worth the wait? Maybe. I have faith we can get back on the official path once it comes out so I didn't take much convincing to flash a leak now.
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So who here is on an Android 4.0.4 leak? (official ICS leak)
Who is still on stock gingerbread?
Who is running a custom rom?
Answer in the comments and in the poll.
Im interested to see what is being used!
--Sam
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Not me.
Me.
Not me.
It's a corporate-supplied device... I can't mess around with custom ROMs and deal with bugs that I don't have the time to troubleshoot.
Plus no ROM will improve this awful screen or only-slightly-better camera, right?
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I'm running .206. I tried .208 but I'm too much of a noob to even fallow noob proof instructions so I'm staying with .206 till I learn more, and till I can get back on the regular path (if its even possible).
So far I like it, the only thing that doesn't work for me is the facebook (my gallery) from the accounts. It crashes my gallery with an error saying that friendfeed has stopped working, so I just don't use that part of my gallery.
I'm satisfied!
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danifunker said:
Did you take a nandroid, then restore the data only partition of the nandroid after you did the upgrade? THat's a great idea. I might do the same if it is that easy! Otherwise, I'll wait for a newer leak.
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Yes I took a Nandroid before I started the crazy Fastboot recovery process, then once rooted and safe strap installed, I did another nandroid(heaven for bid I'd have to start over again) then flashed over data only.
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Yes I took a Nandroid before I started the crazy Fastboot recovery process, then once rooted and safe strap installed, I did another nandroid(heaven for bid I'd have to start over again) then flashed over data only.
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Can't you just use recovery for flashing back data (I assume you are using the advanced restore?) or do you need to have safestrap installed?
I am running the .208 and was able to keep root thanks to Voodoo. I know some people have had issues with keeping root when going to .208 from .206 or .200. I went from GB to to .208 maybe thats why i was able to restore root? Anywho, ive been using the leak for over a week now and i am so glad i did.
Just went from .206 to .208 using the new kernel and following the instructions over at DroidForums. Also got root with the new method. Everything works peachy-keen.
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I posted these questions earlier in the Q+A section and figure this is a better place for them.....
So I've got my 4th Bionic en route due to pesky data connection issues and no GPS. I'm wondering if I should flash the .232 ICS build. A couple questions arise if I may:
- Is it easily rootable? Running .905 stock root presently on my old Bionic. New one I'm sure will have .905 obviously stock and unmessed with.
- Does installing a leaked version make it any more difficult to install the official version at its release? I'm thinking it would be a good opportunity to work bugs out of pertinent apps and familiarize myself with the new version.
- Should I root the .905 before flashing the ICS? Does that matter? I'm thinking it'd be lost anyways on the flash up. And the root of the external (not sdcard, sdcard-ext) SD I'm assuming is where I place the leaked ICS file?
I love these forums as they minimize the knowledge gap between people like me and experts!
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dmullen1373 said:
I posted these questions earlier in the Q+A section and figure this is a better place for them.....
So I've got my 4th Bionic en route due to pesky data connection issues and no GPS. I'm wondering if I should flash the .232 ICS build. A couple questions arise if I may:
- Is it easily rootable? Running .905 stock root presently on my old Bionic. New one I'm sure will have .905 obviously stock and unmessed with.
- Does installing a leaked version make it any more difficult to install the official version at its release? I'm thinking it would be a good opportunity to work bugs out of pertinent apps and familiarize myself with the new version.
- Should I root the .905 before flashing the ICS? Does that matter? I'm thinking it'd be lost anyways on the flash up. And the root of the external (not sdcard, sdcard-ext) SD I'm assuming is where I place the leaked ICS file?
I love these forums as they minimize the knowledge gap between people like me and experts!
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From everything I hear, .232 should fix your data connection. It is quite easy to update to it, you just have to put the proper update file onto your external sd card and boot into stock recovery and install it. It is also very easy to root, assuming you have access to a computer running windows. The utility to root it is called razrs_edge and is easy enough to find and download. You will lose root on the upgrade, so it's probably just as easy to wait until after the update to root it. There is also a utility available which will let you downgrade to .905 and apply the new update without losing your data when the time comes for the official update. That can be found here http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-droid-bionic/214902-downgrade-902-no-app-data-loss.html Actually, that utility can probably used to upgrade and root the phone even if you're starting on .905. Also, .232 is probably your best bet right now, as .235 is built so you can't go back to anything before it properly.
Good luck!
What about the update to the official release? Would I just be able to OTA to that, providing I defrost any bloat apps Verizon so kindly includes?
And one more quick one. Can I do that flash to .232 right now on my stock, partially frozen and rooted .905 rom without losing any apps or data? Sounds way too good to be true to me!
Thanks for your time too, dude. Totally got it!
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dmullen1373 said:
What about the update to the official release? Would I just be able to OTA to that, providing I defrost any bloat apps Verizon so kindly includes?
Thanks for your time too, dude. Totally got it!
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You can't directly update to the OTA, but that's what the utility which I linked in my previous reply is for. It will let you temporarily downgrade to .905 and allow you to apply the OTA. The person who maintains it does a really good job and keeps it up to date with all the new files when they're released.
You're the man dude thanks!
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dmullen1373 said:
You're the man dude thanks!
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If you've got an account on droidforums, make sure to thank Samuri_HL, he's the one who makes things so easy to use.
OK so I've one more question. If I wanted to install it now on my bionic with the stock rooted .905, can I just download the ICS update and install while preserving apps+data?
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dmullen1373 said:
OK so I've one more question. If I wanted to install it now on my bionic with the stock rooted .905, can I just download the ICS update and install while preserving apps+data?
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As long as you're stock, the upgrade should work fine and shouldn't affect your apps+data. You will lose root (I believe) and need to re-root afterwards though.
One more question.....
OK, so I've managed to get .232 up and running. I haven't rooted it, and truly don't see the point at least at this point because I can just disable the VZ apps that I don't need (namely, all of them.) So, now that I'm on this build, let's say they release the final version tomorrow...what is going to need to happen to update to the final version? I've truly scoured through all of these forums and can't quite figure it out. Will it just be as simple as the .232 flash? I mean is it worth going to .235 on my en route Bionic and loading all of my apps and investing the hours required in getting it perfect? Or will it all just be one waste of time? I know that the final release will be an OTA, so I'm assuming that .905 will need to be in the mix at some point hence the confusion....
Kudos to all who care to help thee noobs around here!!!
dmullen1373 said:
OK, so I've managed to get .232 up and running. I haven't rooted it, and truly don't see the point at least at this point because I can just disable the VZ apps that I don't need (namely, all of them.) So, now that I'm on this build, let's say they release the final version tomorrow...what is going to need to happen to update to the final version? I've truly scoured through all of these forums and can't quite figure it out. Will it just be as simple as the .232 flash? I mean is it worth going to .235 on my en route Bionic and loading all of my apps and investing the hours required in getting it perfect? Or will it all just be one waste of time? I know that the final release will be an OTA, so I'm assuming that .905 will need to be in the mix at some point hence the confusion....
Kudos to all who care to help thee noobs around here!!!
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You will need to flash the .905 fxz file in order to receive the OTA. There are a couple ways of doing that. The most failsafe way would be to do it using RSD Lite, however that will wipe all of your data and basically return your phone to a like-new state. The other main way is to use SamuriHL's House of Bionic program/script. It uses a modified version of the fxz file that will not wipe your data. You can use it to return to .905 and install the OTA in the normal way, by checking for updates and letting it install once it is available. You can also use it if you download the OTA when it is released and basically do it the same way you updated to .232. When the OTA is released, I'm sure he'll put together a new version of HoB that includes it, so that the whole process is fairly well automated. There's no saying when exactly the OTA will be ready, but for now just enjoy your ice cream sandwich.
When I mention that it will not wipe your data, that means that all of your apps and whatnot will remain intact. In any case, I don't recommend updating to .235, I have it and can't tell much difference between that and the .232 leak, and the .232 leak has a safe route back to stock, whereas .235 doesn't, so it's definitely not worth the risk. If you're happy with it without rooting, then by all means keep it that way, rooting means it's just easier to mess things up.