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If you think youre Diamond is perfect, post here!

Having discussed the Diamond with my mate Mark, (he got his from inkino on Friday) I realised that theres no thread by/for people who think its perfect, so I has gotten the impression that it was not that good from all the bad threads (wifi is crap, no gps connection, sms problems etc.).
So, if you think the Diamond is great, please post here, so all us guys without them can get a balanced opinion. And say if youre using a cooked rom, or have applied tweaks or something.
Rory

I got it on Thursday, not Friday.
I just haven't experienced any of the problems that others are reporting apart from the battery heating up when charging off a computer. The battery life is fine (I haven't got below 71%, despite taking it on several day-long adventures), the GPS is good, and TouchFLO 3D is at least twice as fast as TouchFLO. The screen is also more responsive and the detail on it is simply amazing. Wifi seems fine, the accelerometer is really handy, and I have far more RAM and storage space than I need.
There are other great hidden extras too, like the good startup speed. Nobody seems to mention that.

I was worried like you as well because of all the threads .
Battery
Took off charger this morning at 8am its now 20:37 and Im at 60% .. Have had several calls and text messages , have used wifi and GPS with TomTom without charger -- short journey.. Pretty much your average day really.
This is the 3rd charge and each time there is in an improvement.
The size is excellent , not too small and not to big. The screen is second to non . Excellent in and outdoors.
The speed is great . The lag on the menu system I personally think is ment to be there as it fades your last screen out but its like 1 second !! I can live with that
memory is a bit disapointing but I have installed all my apps on the HDD and all run very quickly etc.
Battery does get warm under charge but then most batteries do as they peak ..
Hmm not sure what else to right so will leave it there

batery life is really su*. i thought atom life shuld be a worst. but great diamond got 1st place.

What's up with your battery? I've never used more than 29% of mine, despite subjecting the device to reasonable use for an entire day between each charge. Maybe your battery is dodgy.

Mine's Great
Battery life - came off charge at 04:00 a.m. - taken/ made about 20 mins of calls,
Calls are crisp and clear both ends
Speaker is a bit tinny but passable on something this small
Camera is passable
push email on all day,
Took 3 contact photos
about 1 hour of wifi (50/50 you tube and browsing net, note that I had wifi on the best performance setting).
TF3D is responsive and easy to use
GPS (I only use google earth) is quick and accurate
Device is incredibly light and thin considering what is packed inside it
Only slight negative is some memory leakage (about 10Mb over 24 hrs after which it seems to stabilise) although I should stress that this has never resulted in any noticeable slow down.
I have ROM 1.35 no tweaks
The last phone that impresed me this much was my very first WM device - the imate Jam
IMHO - nothing comes close to the Diamond -
but then, one man's meat............

Oops forgot to mention
ref previous post, battery on 40% at 09:29 p.m 17 hours after last charge

only got it for about a week.
Development of ROMS seems to be going fast like hell
1.37 rom is great
tflo3d very fast, no hangs, no bugs, fantastic usage of phone
gmailaccount in mail nice downloading every 15 min
work:
synching exchange via vpn twice a day
oggsyncing google calendar with device calendar twice a day, so all calenders are synched. Contacts are in exchange too, usefull.
GPS works like a charm, opera rocks, I really like the 'zoom' function.
Phonekeyboard goes perfect when smssing.
Battery is quite perfect, holds on more than a day with 1 hour of calltime, 20 min of gps and fiddling around a lot.
And well, like I had with all WM phones, they work great with my Parrot.
In fact, I got everything that I need in this device.
And, as mentioned at first: development is going way fast, so it can only get BETTER

rorydaredkign said:
Having discussed the Diamond with my mate Mark, (he got his from inkino on Friday) I realised that theres no thread by/for people who think its perfect, so I has gotten the impression that it was not that good from all the bad threads (wifi is crap, no gps connection, sms problems etc.).
So, if you think the Diamond is great, please post here, so all us guys without them can get a balanced opinion. And say if youre using a cooked rom, or have applied tweaks or something.
Rory
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You must be kidding, right? The HTC Touch Diamond ist very likely the best WM6.1 device made by HTC so far BUT it is by far away from being perfect, not even close to it.
Yes, I like using it (ROM 1.37.707.1) but Touchflo3D sucks performance-wise(or is it the crappy touchdisplay implementation compared to the iPhone) but it looks very very nice, so does the Touch Diamond itself.
Reception isn't too good too, pretty weak in fact, especially HSDPA reception.
Call reception(voice on the other end) is very good though.
I have very mixed feelings about the Touch Diamond. While it may be one(if not THE) best WM device on the market(the Samsung i780 is more powerful), it is NOT the best (smart)phone on the market. It looks beautiful, nicer than an iPhone for example and it is well built but again, this isn't everything which is important for a good phone.
So if you want to run a thread with glorifying the Touch Diamond, do so. Don't expect however people like me who are using a good dozend of new phones at the same time to agree with your opinion(proposal).
The Touch Diamond is a nice phone, no doubt about it. Perfect? NO WAY, not even close, sorry to disappoint you.

P996 said:
You must be kidding, right? The HTC Touch Diamond ist very likely the best WM6.1 device made by HTC so far BUT it is by far away from being perfect, not even close to it.
Yes, I like using it (ROM 1.37.707.1) but Touchflo3D sucks performance-wise(or is it the crappy touchdisplay implementation compared to the iPhone) but it looks very very nice, so does the Touch Diamond itself.
Reception isn't too good too, pretty weak in fact, especially HSDPA reception.
Call reception(voice on the other end) is very good though.
I have very mixed feelings about the Touch Diamond. While it may be one(if not THE) best WM device on the market(the Samsung i780 is more powerful), it is NOT the best (smart)phone on the market. It looks beautiful, nicer than an iPhone for example and it is well built but again, this isn't everything which is important for a good phone.
So if you want to run a thread with glorifying the Touch Diamond, do so. Don't expect however people like me who are using a good dozend of new phones at the same time to agree with your opinion(proposal).
The Touch Diamond is a nice phone, no doubt about it. Perfect? NO WAY, not even close, sorry to disappoint you.
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ofcourse is not perfect (yet, i might add) but i am also fed up with post bearing the title "this" or "that" sucks! look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2315506#post2315506
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401182
as i said it before, less than a week ago:
I am looking forward to:
- The first xda-dev made ROM.
- The extended battery Pack.
- OS Android or WM 7.
In conclusion: give it a chance, you'll might like it
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now, we allready have 7-8 ROMs to choose from.

its just a phone, dont take it to heart.
nothing is perfect!

jasjamming said:
its just a phone, dont take it to heart.
nothing is perfect!
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true, but for me it´s the best phone available as of today.

Hamudi2000 said:
true, but for me it´s the best phone available as of today.
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Best Windows Mobile phone? Maybe. Best phone? I highly doubt it.

Best 4 Me
I have tried Iphone, Nokia N95 Sony Ericcson, LG KU990. For me, none of them are a patch on the WM phones and of those, the Diamond is the best I have had so far. It comes down to a matter of personal preference at the end of the day.
Some will love a given device, others will find it "so-so" others will hate it. Take the iphone for example: I have a friend who swears by his, myself who thinks it is OK but prefers WM and another friend who sent hers back after a week because she couldn't get on with it (problem with fingernails not working on the touch screen!)

dude....
quote of the day.....
We come to love not by finding a perfect pda, but by learning to see an imperfect pda perfectly

crash74 said:
dude....
quote of the day.....
We come to love not by finding a perfect pda, but by learning to see an imperfect pda perfectly
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Bro.....that is so true

Right heres my opinion on the Diamond...
Ive had mine since Sat...didnt have much of a chance to play around with it thanks to the battery dying out...my fault really as i didnt charge it fully but nevermind and i also blame my gf who was desperate to see me so i left the usb cable at home...so the battery drained and i couldnt use it till yesterday when i got home and put it on charge.
Anyways my first impressions were that its a bloody nice phone, small and thin...in fact even my bro was impressed with it. But i wasnt that impressed with the performance Touchflo3d was slow and laggy...remember ive got the official uk diamond which runs 1.37 rom stock. So i wasnt that impressed with the performance etc but after doing some of the tweaks in the tweak thread...OMG!!!! this device really started to shine...it was much more snappier and responsive, well alot more than without the tweaks...still wouldnt say its perfect though but given time im pretty sure the guys in here can sort out alot of the minor issues.
I like the phone, the more i use it the more i fall in love with it so originally i was thinking of sending it back today for a refund but to be honest??...nope im keeping it...its a brilliant device if you can live with the niggles/quirks it has. Im coming from a symbian phone, nokia n95 8gb and this phone is as good as that one although ill be honest...there are a few things that i miss from that phone but the way i see it is that its a learning curve for me.
The only major issue i have with the phone is the battery, it far too weak for this sort of device...god only knows why HTC didnt pack a higher capacity battery...yes yes i know there will be soon extended batts for the Diamond but really it should have come with a higher capacity battery. The thing is that this device is quite powerful so HTC really dont have an excuse other than to make more money.
Really other than that im liking the phone alot...i think it has alot to offer..its just a case of HTC tweaking their roms or the devs in here doing their thing with the roms available. I never thought id be saying all that above about a WM device...i did have a WM5 device a few yrs ago but god almighty that was just simply rubbish...at least WM6.1 has come a long way since 5 in my opinion.

Hi all,
This is my first post on xda-developers. I've also come from an S60 background and in fact have modded/helped build the community at n95users<dot>com for over a year. This is my first WM device since the IPAQ 5550, back when we only dreamed of our PDA's being able to make phone calls, even when HP put that little SIM card slot that did not work in the back of the 5550 - as if it were a taste of things to come. But anyway, enough nostalgia - Symbian is behind me now, at least for a while. Here is what I think about the diamond.
For those that might be considering the purchase, I don't think you will be disappointed. This device does pack a pretty serious punch, but it also lacks in a few areas. Let's not try and flog a dead horse, but yes the battery is sub-par and not suitable for this device. After owning an N95 I feel as if I can't get the device I want without having to compromise on the damn battery. That aside the Diamond does indeed shine and probably sparkles in the right light. The screen is nothing short of blowing me away every time I look at it, the GPS is super sensitive (I'm locking on to 12 satellites in about 15-20 seconds, and TomTom 7 runs amazingly), and the touchFLO 3D interface is nice but is also functional. It can be jerky at times but unless I'm mistakened, I do believe this can be fixed with some software optimisations and some registry tweaks I'm going to try once I finish writing this. I start a new job shortly and we'll be using Exchange (bye bye Lotus Notes ) so I'm looking forward to testing push email functionality and other productivity features. The web browsing experience is GREAT, and the readability of web pages on the 640x480 screen seriously blows me away. In fact I'd have to say so far I guess the screen has impressed me most - I don't think I will ever get tired of looking at it, and I will NEVER own anything from here on in that has anything less in that department. There really is no going back. Running a remote desktop session at 640x480 in my hand is a real treat!! If only it would support the accelerometer and let me flip it to landscape mode... The YouTube client is great (bit slow though? - or is that the memory leak I wonder) and the scrolling little menus and being able to do most things with the swipe of my thumb is something that is growing on me very fast. All in all I wouldn't hesitate recommending this device to anyone who uses it in a similar fashion to me, and I'm doing new things with it everyday!
Here are some things I would have liked to sweeten the deal:
- A flash for the camera.
- 3.5mm headphone jack, or at least an adapter in the box!
- More powerful battery...
Unless any of the above is a deal breaker for you, and all but the flash can be worked around, or fixed, then I would not hesitate in getting the diamond if you are that close to a decision, but don't expect it to be perfect, because nothing is!!!!

Thanks for recommending, I've order mine geting it tommorow.
Am coming from N95 8GIG. For my next smartphone i just couldn't be bother with N96 with same old QVGA.
Looking forward to my new toy.

salada2k said:
Hi all,
This is my first post on xda-developers. I've also come from an S60 background and in fact have modded/helped build the community at n95users<dot>com for over a year. This is my first WM device since the IPAQ 5550, back when we only dreamed of our PDA's being able to make phone calls, even when HP put that little SIM card slot that did not work in the back of the 5550 - as if it were a taste of things to come.
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Ahhhh, that brings back memories! I remember selling my h3970 and paying an arm and a leg for the h5550. It sure was a glimpse of things to come.

Diamond is probably the worst phone I ever used

Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.

Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.

How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.

Very useful thread... one of many.
With some tweaks the HTC performs well. Even the battery.

kareem9nba said:
Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.
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True, but my Prophet and Trinity were not anywhere close to the level of "suck" that this phone comes to.

bakman said:
How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.
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3 days? which rom are you running?
Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....

yegor said:
Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.
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so what ? return for refund, i`ll keep mine nothing change

Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....
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i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!

KukurikU said:
i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!
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Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.

It's just not performing poor.
Just installed HTC's own new 1.37 rom ... and see, it's a almost full functional device!
Fast, no lags (it's not a 3300 nokia!!) lots of usability, navigating, mailing, exchange, foto's, sound, browsing, the whole bunch in my pocket.
A lot of these topics, but I am glad i bought one

I must say battery life is very poor in music playback with set of stereo bluetooth hedphones, i get about 3 hrs max just using music and no phone calling etc. it seems to me that when the battery gets to the last 2 bars it doesnt last long at all. im on the latest rom, phone calling/sat nav and surfing via 3g doesnt seem to be that much of a problem to me battery wise. Ill be picking up the extended battery, i wouldnt swap this phone for any other though!

yegor said:
Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.
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Just had a nice time reporting you (c)
Besides, he was right.. The phone is not as bad as you said, the things you said just prove that you don't know how to use it to it's potential, that's all...
Yes, I don't own a Diamond (waiting for the Pro), but from what I can see on this forum, for each 10 whining people, there are 50 or more who love the phone after tweaking it for themselves..
The topics like this are pretty much useless, as the only thing they contain is whining, but don't actually give anything useful
My regards..
P.S. You are russian, aren't you?

This is the best phone I ever used
With the reg tweaks here from the wiki the battery lasts about 2 days - I can live with that (remembering my "old" PDAs where battery lasts not a half day *ggg*). We wanted it full featured and slim - so we habe to live with this "battery issue".
But I ordered the extended battry from HTC yesterday - just in case

Cendaryn said:
This is the best phone I ever used
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/me cheers

IMO A2DP is going to drain the battery of any phone?
Whats battery life like on core player with corded headphones?

The rom that came with it (for most people) is slowwww.
A rush to get the phone out i think, but i think alot of people would have made that compramise - have the phone 3 weeks ago with a slow rom and be able to upgrade it around now.
Check the roms section you can find the official rom updates for each region there. You don't need to do any hard SPL modifications to use those, and therefore shouldnt affect your waranty. I would suggest that first.
Flaming is just pointless, and alot of people had the same thoughts at 1 point, i know i did!

I'm looking to get a Diamond and TBH find threads like this useful. I know its a Marmite kinda thing (love it or hate it) but it gives a indication of what the phone is like.
I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
If he said the phone was one of the best ever made you wouldn't slate him and degrade him....so why do it otherwise???
Afterall its a Forum and peoples opinions are their own! Forums wouldn't exist otherwise!

cammy3000 said:
from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Thats a good price. If you dont mind me asking, how are you getting it for £230 Non Contract?

I have to say this is probably the most ocvered topic for every single HTC out there, I have had almost all production releases and everytime someone always states its the worst phone ever! truely this can't be the case.
There are phones that have been much worse and this is a PDA with lots of extras that why you pay more oh and the fact you purchased it so early. give it a chance with a newer rom.

cammy3000 said:
I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Where in the hell are you getting it for £230? Link please..

Fastest, most stable and with the least amount of bugs. Which rom?

Which cooked rom offers the best stability, speed and least amount of bugs for a T-Mobile HTC TP2? I'm new and would like some opinions. Thanks!

It's COMPLETELY OPINION!!! Only YOU can decide which ROM is best for you. Hint: Sort threads by view count. PLEASE do not create new threads for inane questions that have been asked at least 2.7 million times in the past. I'm not trying to scare you away from XDA-Devs, but once you have spent a little time here, you will be just as annoyed by these posts as the rest of us.
True stability in WinMo is a pipe dream, due to the fact that the OS is constantly being hacked to death by the tireless dedication of ROM Chefs, and other programmers. I mean that in a good way. Sorry your thread will be locked within a day or so..

Hamsteriel said:
It's COMPLETELY OPINION!!! Only YOU can decide which ROM is best for you. Hint: Sort threads by view count. PLEASE do not create new threads for inane questions that have been asked at least 2.7 million times in the past. I'm not trying to scare you away from XDA-Devs, but once you have spent a little time here, you will be just as annoyed by these posts as the rest of us.
True stability in WinMo is a pipe dream, due to the fact that the OS is constantly being hacked to death by the tireless dedication of ROM Chefs, and other programmers. I mean that in a good way. Sorry your thread will be locked within a day or so..
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Hopefully I didn't annoy others. Sorry folks.

If you are looking for stability instead of eye candy then go for the ROMs without HTC Sense. I know it looks good, makes you feel good when you swiipe left and right and up and down, but the fact is that as soon as it is disabled your battery life will improve, you will have more RAM to run different applicatons, and the device will not get bogged down. I bought the Touch Pro 2 because I like Windows Mobile. It works. The Touch Pro 2 is as powerful a device as I could ask for running WM or really anything else. HTC sense is just a VERY in depth overlay. In the end it is an application which takes up processing power, memory, and reliability. I am currently using the Cell Evo V6 with NonSense (I like that and the two Royal Physicians I've had agree...haha!! I named this drink!!) and the battery life has improved drastically, as has reliablility, and my ability to mutitask.

cell pro lite v.9.5 by sergio,IMO,is the quality you want.

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cell pro lite v.9.5 by sergio,IMO,is the quality you want.
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totally agrees on cell pro series
do try others aswell,and see what suits ur taste

Hamsteriel said:
It's COMPLETELY OPINION!!! Only YOU can decide which ROM is best for you. Hint: Sort threads by view count. PLEASE do not create new threads for inane questions that have been asked at least 2.7 million times in the past. I'm not trying to scare you away from XDA-Devs, but once you have spent a little time here, you will be just as annoyed by these posts as the rest of us.
True stability in WinMo is a pipe dream, due to the fact that the OS is constantly being hacked to death by the tireless dedication of ROM Chefs, and other programmers. I mean that in a good way. Sorry your thread will be locked within a day or so..
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Hopefully the thread is not locked. It is a completely reasonable question to ask and it would be absolutely wonderful if members were a little nicer to people who are obviously new and requesting a little guidance. I don't cook ROMs. I don't often come up with great solutions to problems with a ROM and put those solutions into little .cab files for everyone. I don't write applications. I've only donated to a few ROM cooks (maybe three or four maximum) since I have been a member here. One thing I can do is offer a little advice and assistance to those who do not even have my limited experience...those to whom I have something to offer. Why not try this?
To get back on topic though, I might as well try to answer the question a little better than I did last night. I had an excuse then!
I have tried pretty much every ROM for the Rhodium and I found myself really enjoying the Energy ROMs but encountered a few bugs here and there which gave me reason to try something else. I really like those Energy ROMs but I always feel like I am waiting for the next one so I can get rid of a problem on the one I'm using. I tried the latest ROM from Ark666 and I really like that one. It appeared to be very stable and it just looks good. I'm not referring just to HTC Sense but everything really looks nice. However, when I disable the HTC messaging client there is no MMS option and I couldn't get it working so I gave the Cell Evo a try. Everything seems to work and it has been rock solid. No freezing or sluggishness.
I have gone back to the defaut Windows Mobile today screen instead of HTC Sense and right now I am using just the basic original one. After a restart I have about 110mb of free Program memory this way and getting to new messages, opening the calendar, and so on is so much simpler and quicker than with HTC Sense.
Windows Mobile is great...I really like it. Instead of covering it up with all that extra graphical distraction why not focus on tweaking what is already there and making dedicated applications that are of greater use?

I have to agree....Best ROM used so far is The cell pro series v11.

Cell pro series but the 21xxx series windows mobile build ones. Also the energyrom Sense 2.1 ROMs, also 21xxx build version. Both are really fast and stable, love them both equally, hard to decide between them for sure.

iris_aim said:
totally agrees on cell pro series
do try others aswell,and see what suits ur taste
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I'll have to try that one out. Seems like something I can really rely on.
BTW, thanks pinhead.

[Q] Long term harmful effect on our TD2s by having buggy android?

Yes Haret does NOT mend any files during launch of android. It is supposed not to do anything to our TD2 aka Topaz but i think it is worth a discussion.
I am sure a lot of TD2 users here tried android mounted by Haret, which I remember was one of the blast moments in TD2 development and I believe was featured on pocketnow etc websites. Great props for devs. I was frustrated with Win Mo and has been running android frequently.
However, development was slowed down greatly after initial version 16 or 17 running android 1.6 / 2.0.1 . since then, we are left with buggy android with glitches everywhere and phone occasionally overheating and freezing. We have finally gotten ourselves sound and partial hardware 3D which is nice however even after a year past, it is far from being used even purely for phone purpose.
Personally I have been a geek and been running Ubuntu and android frequently, almost 3h per day even during initial alpha stage where the phone was able to do almost nothing but browsing sd card.
Here is consequence I have met now:
1. So far Hard reset 2 or 3 times due to Haret somehow making system crashing my Touch flo 3d and unsigned programmes. Fixed after few patches aparrently
2. Great deal of hardware stress. Now my battery is 50 percent on full charge , My phone speaker is out of order now hardwarely, my 4gb SD card is corrupted and no longer usable
3. /unconfirmed if it is by android/ bad pixels on my screen (green dots)
4. Mental stress as an addition if TD2 is primary and 24 month contract is not over yet
Personally if I look at HD2 development, I am kind of really stunned considering it just boomed in few months and Today XDA portal shows that it is able to run on nand with full tutorial. This is summarised by only one statement
-Developers lack of interest / unwilling to devote time on XDAndroid project compared to HD2
I would like to hear from you if any of you is having long term buggy android symptoms as well. And how should devs with lack of resources concentrate development on so that we have daily functional android for us instead of just hearing wining? like camera is luxury etc... Nand build now for Topaz = nearly suicide since it will accelerate hardware stress and who wants phone that hangs during calls and lockscreen? 7hour battery life is a bonus
P/s Disclaimer: XDAndroid is free project in which devs have no duty / pays to make android work for us. They have right to ignore us if needed to have their own time and I acknowledge that. I tried many android build with latest stuff installed. I do hope there is a breakthough so that our old phones can be revived with nice android goodness. Sorry for my english if any.

Battery life has decreased considerably, IMO due to excessive wear on Android builds, although this was expected.
I think instablity on WM has to be somewhat related to not letting WM starting completely.
At first i as running HAret immediatelly after booting and now i'm waiting a couple of minutes to run HAret, letting WM load all the necessary %#"$!%$%!$.

First off, I personally have not had any problems with android running on my Pure. I feel if you are worried about "TESTING!!!!!" android on your device, then don't! The only downside i have seen is charging my battery more, so of course the battery life will decrease. It is a very small inconvienence considering i have a nearly stable build of Android so that i don't have to use Winmo.

well, I was tring to warn people who was hardcore like me. Personally I do not complain at all . Disclaimer is there to show that I dont blame devs or worried about testing. But i think warning sign on android portal page to show that possible hardware damage could be done due to stress would be good.

i agree to check if there're any issues to hardware. My 8G TF-card can't be readable last week after using xandroid suspend over night. Hope it was just a coincidence.

I really regret buying a TD2 (if you compare to HD2 or Android devices)! All this WinMo-stuff brought me to XDADevelopers, because I tried to change the way WinMo works. After a while I discovered Android running through HARET and I think it's worth the risk. I agree to that point that developers should disclaim that there're possibly damages on your hardware in the future, but I also think we all new what we're doing. :-D

To all Xperia Android Devs

Dear devs,
As a Xperia X1 user and big Android fan (no money for new phone - other priorities for time), I'd like to suggest to focus on android problems instead making new fancy builds. Many of our devs already changed many things in Android, instead of working on problems with Wi-Fi, battery or making it primary os.
I understand that porting OS to unsupported device is pain in the ass and I'd like to thanks for the effort putted in, but please focus on one best build which is currently there and make it 100% working
Feel free to discuss

thumbs up! I completely agree with you on this.

For me Wi-fi, battery life, blu-tooth, camera and WORKING USB mode are essentials. I understand there is lack of people and resources, but I rather to see all devs working on one ROM and trying to put their knowledge together instead of five billion ROMs.

mars83 said:
Dear devs,
As a Xperia X1 user and big Android fan (no money for new phone - other priorities for time), I'd like to suggest to focus on android problems instead making new fancy builds. Many of our devs already changed many things in Android, instead of working on problems with Wi-Fi, battery or making it primary os.
I understand that porting OS to unsupported device is pain in the ass and I'd like to thanks for the effort putted in, but please focus on one best build which is currently there and make it 100% working
Feel free to discuss
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I have followed the development of Android for X1 for quite some time now. I completely agree that it would be best for the greater good to start focusing on essential issues.
I'm not saying that its bad to have alternatives, on the contrary, but man how I long for the day when I can install a pure Android ROM with camera and everything fully working on my X1. Its the only reason why I haven't sold my X1 yet

I agree. It would be best if developers focus on the main problems and solve them one by one. I'd suggest starting from the battery issue. It's the most important one, as there are no benefits of having for example camera working, when phone's battery is empty making it useless.

totally agree
i think most important is Usability of Battery and stability of device
i just want a simple android where everything can work

totally agree - baterry , wi-fi , camera , usb - pc sync , etc , all developers should work on this.

I've been saying the same thing for a while now.
Lets hope the devs team up and work on one stable release.

I'm in total agreement here. I would say first priority would be the battery problems, followed by sleep of death and keyfreezing. Definitely agree that all developers should work together to build 1 rom that just gets better and better. Learn from the example of CyanogenMOD, many members, 1 excellent ROM.
Thanks for the hard work.

CyanogenMOD yes! That kind of cooperation I'd like to see. Meanwhile I'm getting PROBABLY SGS so I might contribute my X1 to one of the devs