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Keeping protected/paid apps installed?

I might be a senior, but we're all still learning
So my question is, when you wipe/reflash something, is there a way to keep all the Protected/Paid apps installed when you start up? Normally, a wipe will break all of your protected/paid apps and list them in the launcher as "com.XXXX.XXXX" or even "org.XXX.XXX". Launching them results in the infamous Force Close box.
This is indeed on Apps2SD and with Cyan's new 3.9

Have you tried running the fix_permissions script?

I'll reboot and run it now

Didn't fix them, unfortunatly :/

lukekirstein said:
Didn't fix them, unfortunatly :/
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Back up all your apps using MyBackupPro or Backup for Root Users. I have all mine on my sd so they re-install automatically. I don't have to do anything, and they don't load up as com.xxxxx.htc.. blah. But I use Backup for Root Users when I do have to format my ext2 and this brings them back no problem.

Hmm interesting. I've never used Backup for Root Users with apps, just the data. Takes too long for me with all my apps...but I managed to find the spare time to re-install, that was fun . Thanks guys!

my advice to anyone on here who is going to play with anything on their phone:
before you do it, make sure you have enough time allotted to fix EVERYTHING, as if you were starting from scratch. that way, before you begin, you can have the peace of mind to know that if anything goes wrong, you've got all the time you need to fix it.
murphy's law: whenever you think you're in for a quick fix, theres a long road ahead of you.

kusotare said:
my advice to anyone on here who is going to play with anything on their phone:
before you do it, make sure you have enough time allotted to fix EVERYTHING, as if you were starting from scratch. that way, before you begin, you can have the peace of mind to know that if anything goes wrong, you've got all the time you need to fix it.
murphy's law: whenever you think you're in for a quick fix, theres a long road ahead of you.
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Wouldn't hurt to have a backup unlocked GSM phone too. That's one of the nice things about GSM-based technologies... if your phone dies for whatever reason, pop the sim out and put it in a backup phone. You'll still be able to be contacted while you fix the primary device.

I had this issue too with the same Rom and with the previous version. This is how I solved it.
First I deleted all apps, etc from my SD card while it was connected to my Mac, just made it easier. (I was also running a previous Apps2Sd, not the one built into the mod, which I believe was the root of the issue. I didn't use the old apps2sd once I upgraded the ROM, and I may be way off but I find it suspect.
Then I wiped and reinstalled the ROM. Yea I had to reinstall my apps but...
...before doing all that I had tried removing and then reinstalling an app. A reboot/power cycle of the G1 would result in the icon being gone again and that ugly error message in regards to the app.
When I did the step I mentioned prevously, delete, wipe, etc I've not had any further issues.
I've also since updated by fs from ext2 to ext3 but that was after the fact.
Cyan's mod is by far my favorite and consistently stable and well documented. I'm glad I was able to correct my issues.
kusotare said:
my advice to anyone on here who is going to play with anything on their phone:
before you do it, make sure you have enough time allotted to fix EVERYTHING, as if you were starting from scratch. that way, before you begin, you can have the peace of mind to know that if anything goes wrong, you've got all the time you need to fix it.
murphy's law: whenever you think you're in for a quick fix, theres a long road ahead of you.
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Have to agree completely with the above. Hope for the best but plan for the worst.

lukekirstein said:
I might be a senior, but we're all still learning
So my question is, when you wipe/reflash something, is there a way to keep all the Protected/Paid apps installed when you start up? Normally, a wipe will break all of your protected/paid apps and list them in the launcher as "com.XXXX.XXXX" or even "org.XXX.XXX". Launching them results in the infamous Force Close box.
This is indeed on Apps2SD and with Cyan's new 3.9
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Did you manage to find a solution to this problem? If you did, could you please post it. I flash different ROMs often. Having to reinstall my paid apps over and over again is starting to get very annoying.

Haven't tried yet. I might try the MyBackup Pro option, as I heard it's a great app anyways. But I know what you mean

[Q] Upgrade G1 to CM/other custom ROM *WITHOUT* slowness/other bs?

I've tried CyanogenMod, I really have. I just can't seem to get it going correctly without HORRIBLE slowdowns and other crap that just doesn't make it worth it to me.
For example, I would be in an app or doing something else on my phone, then I exit the app. I pull up my app list to find ALL of the icons bunched up in the top left corner. They then SLOWLY start to space themselves out, as if they were all reloading one by one. This was one of the many problems I had with CM that just made me go back to legit.
Other problems included slowdowns in just about everything else I did, and the Market FCing every time I tried to open it (probably unrelated, but I'm not sure).
I'm wondering if I may have done something wrong (even though I followed the steps perfectly, and I'm hardly a 'noob' at this kind of stuff), or if that's just how it's going to run on a G1.
I just want a custom rom, preferably with Apps2SD (most roms have it nowadays, right?), that won't run like crap on my phone. I hope that's not asking for too much. :]

bump?
I really want to get this thing upgraded again, but without being slow..

Try superF or sparksmod there pretty fast

[Q] Dialer self close

this seems to be happenning very ofthwn for my phone, and it hasn't disappeared even with using a different ROM or kernel.
I'm on tweaky's 2.3.5 JVS now, and I sometimes when I am in dialer and I type in 3 numbers, it just closes itself and shoots me back to the homescreen. it keeps doing that, and I'm unable to dial out because of this, until after a while and it irritates me to no end.
this also seemingly happens with me using whatsapp or Viber, where when I want to reply a message, after whatsapp has loaded up, it shoots me back to the home screen.
now, I've tries to get rid of my task killers, and saw no changes whatsoever, so can someone enlighten me on what's going on, and how to rectify this????

You say you did try a couple of roms, have you performed a factory reset or re-partition when flashing the roms?

Yes I did, all the time with Odin... Happenned with Darky, symply, simplicity, all of them
I wipe data and factory reset, even format the storage.

I'm not sure but as you said you've tried to change both rom and kernal yet there seems to be some sort of constant.
Are you backing up your apps accounts data etc and then restoring data? or the apps themselves? Because this can cause in-compatibilities.
If you do then start from scratch install only apps but only from market and one by one. Try play around half a day or something (or if you know a definite trigger see if it happens) if nothing then install another of your old apps.
Also have you tried installing no apps just use those that came with the rom. If it still happens after everything has been wiped (cache, dalvik cache, repartition, format sd, no external sd) then im inclined to say its hardware... When did this start happening?

Hi, thanks for the reply.
I back up my applications using Appmonster, and this retains just the program itself, I reset everything back to how it was after I wipe.
I'm not sure, I tried to think on whether its an issue with like lacking of ram or something, because SOMETIMES it behaves after I kill of some apps and free up some RAM.
I also thought it might have been a task manager which is doing it but uninstalled that and nothing changed.
I tried to install the programs slowly and individuality and it was a VERY slow and painful process, and it got me really nowhere, as like after i uninstalled and backtracked it still happenned.
I was wondering to myself if it was app incompatibility, as I have a relatively large list of apps installed.
It doesn't seem to do it if its fresh, so I'm not too sure myself.
Any ideas per se? Maybe a list of my installed apps? IDK I'm trying to find a solution to this.
At this rate I'm tempted to get a new phone

No harm in sharing the list of apps I guess, maybe someone more knowledgeable can give you a hand with that info.

Okay, But are there known apps that do this to the system? doesn't seem to happen for games but for Dialer and Whatsapp and Viber.
Everything else just works peach.
I just realised it might take more than a while, perhaps I will try a slow install of only the absolute necessities then.
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who's encountering this issue. I'll try a week of the basics soon.
Thanks anw. :3

hamsteyr said:
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who's encountering this issue. I'll try a week of the basics soon.
Thanks anw. :3
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It happened to me too.
I am also seeking the reason.
But the latest ROM Gingerreal v7.14 was okay..

That's really strange then.
Perhaps its the combination of apps... I don't know, I'll try getting rid of the unnecessary and see if it'll cause the same issues.

dialpad problem and other
sas_sas said:
It happened to me too.
I am also seeking the reason.
But the latest ROM Gingerreal v7.14 was okay..
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good to me the same thing happened to good use Viber but not if I used other application in restored times I have installed from scratch I have used several JVS rom and even some custom rom and also jvr stock but it is more about the JVS rom because jvr step with me after a few occasions,
JVS install and initially as well but in the kernel changes and custom rom rom that has happened to me in all I've used lately.

[Q] Installing ROMs. What Precautions to take?

I used to be a Droid 1 user and I played with a lot of custom ROMs. Got the Droid 4 on release day and I'm thinking of playing around with custom ROMs.
If I install the recovery and a custom ROM, isn't the factory restore option always on the phone so anytime I want, I can restore the phone to the day I got it?
Are there any downsides to installing custom ROMs as of now (such as battery, glitches, etc)
I rooted my phone and I've seen a decline in battery life. There is another thread about it but I wanted to ask here, anybody else have this issue?
Lastly, is it worth installing custom ROMs now or just waiting for the official ICS update? I basically just want a working phone with the best battery possible. The only reason I rooted was to uninstall the bloatware on the phone however wifi tether and screenshot are nice to have.
Thanks!

Installing any custom ROM right now is going to be a little risky simply because there are no fastboot files to restore your phone with. Now, SafeStrap does a pretty good job of minimizing that risk by creating what is essentially a dualboot environment allowing you to run a secondary ROM on your phone while leaving the stock ROM intact.
I am running the ICS Beta ROM by Hashcode and it is running really well for me. Battery life has been fine, pretty much on par with stock. Being a beta there are things that are not perfect but I am using it as a daily driver with no issues. You can find a list of known bugs in the ROM OP. Although it seems to be hit a miss with some of them. I have had no issues with wifi or mobile data connections at all.
I ran stock rooted for about 1 1/2 weeks and didn't notice any decline in battery life personally. Not I froze apps rather than uninstalling anything so I could get them back if I needed to. And I really didn't freeze much unless it was something I saw running in the background that I knew I wouldn't need/use.
Really, if you are just looking for a phone that works with the best battery life, you are probably better off staying with stock. In my experience with the Droid 2, no ROM I ran could touch stock for battery life. And really, I think the stock experience on the D4 is fine. The bloatware wasn't overly bad IMO, smart actions is pretty neat, and the UI was plenty snappy. I'm just a flashaholic.

I am quite happy with stock after debloating it.
Sent from my DROID4 using XDA

Thanks for explaining safestrap. Does it actually set up a dual-boot environment, or does it swap out /system, /data, etc. I've tried reading hashcode's blog, but the instructions are a little fuzzy on what exactly is going on. I don't have my D4 yet, and I'd like to get a handle on what exactly safestrap is doing before I take the plunge.
Currently I have a D1 and I'll fully admit I'm spoiled that it is essentially unbrickable. Once, I screwed it up so bad that it wouldn't even boot up into recovery. I have no idea how I managed that, but a quick session with RSDlite fixed everything...
Of course, I know a lot more now than I did back then, but here is hoping we get hold of some fastboot images for the D4 soon...

I finally took the plunge and installed Safestrap. Once your phone is rooted, you just run an APK installed on your phone. The process feels incredibly clean, and I was completely comfortable that as long as I was careful, nothing bad would happen. This proved to be true.
It really does set up a dual-boot. I spent several hours today playing with CM9, and when I was done, I simply disabled the safe system, and the phone booted right back up into my rooted and debloated stock. The most dangerous part is making sure that you do NOT try to flash over the non-safe system, and, in fact, Safestrap generally won't even let you do that.
Not only did I find that Safestrap worked great, but CM9 works better on the Droid 4 than almost any other device I have played with it on. If they can make sure that the data connection is reliable and get the font camera working, it is practically ready for prime time. Everything else works great. I am now confident that we will see CM9 for the Droid 4 as soon as CM itself is complete and stable, since drivers do not seem to be a problem on this phone. I also suspect we will see some CM7-based roms quite quickly as well.
I am also very glad of the option to always easily revert back to the stock system without losing anything, it will make going to the Verizon store very easy if I ever need to.

I also came from a D1, installing ROMs was so easy, I'm a little hesitant on this one especially since a genuine ICS update is on the way. I might wait for that before I try custom ROMs. I use a front camera a lot so CM9 is unfortunately out of question. My battery issue was solved with a calibrate (deleting batterystats) even though it's not supposed to work, I can confirm that it definitely worked for me.

Once you toggle on the safe system, installing ROMS is just as easy as it was on the D1. What is nice, though, is you can keep your stock system fully in tact. I actually keep my phone on a simple rooted stock, but when a friend asks about Android ICS, I just toggle on the safe system, and boot it up. When I'm done, I toggle off the safe system, and back to stock. Safestrap is awesome.

core2kid... this is moto, the official update is gonna take 3-6 months so i would not suggest waiting it out.
i came from a D1 as well and safestrap bugged me out for a while... but once i installed and started using it i really like it. think of it as a dual-boot.
1 is your stock system that you do not f** with... you just leave it so that you have a backup should you f** up your...
2nd system is the one you flash all your ROMs on... no matter what you do to it, the first system is not touched, so you have to try REALLY hard to brick it.

Thanks. I'll give it a go. Last question, if I have hardware issues with the phone, is there a way to restore it to factory so I can warranty it? My main concern is my battery dying. I don't want to be stuck with a useless phone because the battery is in built.

i cant say with 100% certainty, but theres got to be a way.
as for the battery... it will probably die the day after your warranty is up, and by then there will be DIY replacement kits.

greekchampion04 said:
as for the battery... it will probably die the day after your warranty is up, and by then there will be DIY replacement kits.
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With my luck, I can see that happening :/

[Q] overall OS slow down

I have flashed prolly 25 ROMs over the last year or so. All were various XDA posted ROMs. All were flashed by first wiping the internal system fully as well as the cache and dalvik.
Over time my M7 has become sluggish.
Is it possible that the SD has some residual files that are slowing the overall OS and a total wipe might help?

metropical said:
I have flashed prolly 25 ROMs over the last year or so. All were various XDA posted ROMs. All were flashed by first wiping the internal system fully as well as the cache and dalvik.
Over time my M7 has become sluggish.
Is it possible that the SD has some residual files that are slowing the overall OS and a total wipe might help?
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You might want to do a full wipe and you might want to remove some old files off of your phone to give it more breathing room. Remember to backup everything including the ROM and copy it off of your phone in case something goes wrong.

If you really wanted a clean start then you could get an htc RUU but it would reset the phone completely stock, so make a backup. This helped me when I had a similar slow down on my phone

majmoz said:
You might want to do a full wipe and you might want to remove some old files off of your phone to give it more breathing room. Remember to backup everything including the ROM and copy it off of your phone in case something goes wrong.
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I did a full wipe factory reset. So far things seem better, other than the 1 xPosed module I installed, MacroExpansion, isn't working properly, or at least not the way it did before the wipe.

metropical said:
I did a full wipe factory reset. So far things seem better, other than the 1 xPosed module I installed, MacroExpansion, isn't working properly, or at least not the way it did before the wipe.
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how many of these slow down threads do you have going ?
To me it seems your digging the same hole you were in before. Why don't you try using the phone without Xposed and without 110 junk apps and games on it? xPosed is a Hack ..the second you install and activate it your phone is no longer normal and your asking for problems

clsA said:
how many of these slow down threads do you have going ?
To me it seems your digging the same hole you were in before. Why don't you try using the phone without Xposed and without 110 junk apps and games on it? xPosed is a Hack ..the second you install and activate it your phone is no longer normal and your asking for problems
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couple thousand.
no junk, no games at all. and since exposed worked before without issues, I think it's likely to work again. But I'll have some worthwhile input to figure its' issue.
Do I have multiples of the same concept?
Yep, weather for instance. Coz sometimes the servers don't respond when I want to know what's ahead.
Do I have a lot of apps that are seldom used? Yep, but when they're of use, they are.
the one "junk app" that was in particular misbehaving was a NYC subway map, which can be helpful when I go to areas that I'm not totally familiar with.
It now works fine.
One mans junk is anothers useful app. But do I have dancing chickens? Nope.

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and since exposed worked before without issues, I think it's likely to work again.
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Right their is the flaw in your thinking, you did have issues that's why you wiped the phone (Twice). You'll eventually figure it out the hard way

clsA said:
Right their is the flaw in your thinking, you did have issues that's why you wiped the phone (Twice). You'll eventually figure it out the hard way
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Time will tell.