I used to be a Droid 1 user and I played with a lot of custom ROMs. Got the Droid 4 on release day and I'm thinking of playing around with custom ROMs.
If I install the recovery and a custom ROM, isn't the factory restore option always on the phone so anytime I want, I can restore the phone to the day I got it?
Are there any downsides to installing custom ROMs as of now (such as battery, glitches, etc)
I rooted my phone and I've seen a decline in battery life. There is another thread about it but I wanted to ask here, anybody else have this issue?
Lastly, is it worth installing custom ROMs now or just waiting for the official ICS update? I basically just want a working phone with the best battery possible. The only reason I rooted was to uninstall the bloatware on the phone however wifi tether and screenshot are nice to have.
Thanks!
Installing any custom ROM right now is going to be a little risky simply because there are no fastboot files to restore your phone with. Now, SafeStrap does a pretty good job of minimizing that risk by creating what is essentially a dualboot environment allowing you to run a secondary ROM on your phone while leaving the stock ROM intact.
I am running the ICS Beta ROM by Hashcode and it is running really well for me. Battery life has been fine, pretty much on par with stock. Being a beta there are things that are not perfect but I am using it as a daily driver with no issues. You can find a list of known bugs in the ROM OP. Although it seems to be hit a miss with some of them. I have had no issues with wifi or mobile data connections at all.
I ran stock rooted for about 1 1/2 weeks and didn't notice any decline in battery life personally. Not I froze apps rather than uninstalling anything so I could get them back if I needed to. And I really didn't freeze much unless it was something I saw running in the background that I knew I wouldn't need/use.
Really, if you are just looking for a phone that works with the best battery life, you are probably better off staying with stock. In my experience with the Droid 2, no ROM I ran could touch stock for battery life. And really, I think the stock experience on the D4 is fine. The bloatware wasn't overly bad IMO, smart actions is pretty neat, and the UI was plenty snappy. I'm just a flashaholic.
I am quite happy with stock after debloating it.
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Thanks for explaining safestrap. Does it actually set up a dual-boot environment, or does it swap out /system, /data, etc. I've tried reading hashcode's blog, but the instructions are a little fuzzy on what exactly is going on. I don't have my D4 yet, and I'd like to get a handle on what exactly safestrap is doing before I take the plunge.
Currently I have a D1 and I'll fully admit I'm spoiled that it is essentially unbrickable. Once, I screwed it up so bad that it wouldn't even boot up into recovery. I have no idea how I managed that, but a quick session with RSDlite fixed everything...
Of course, I know a lot more now than I did back then, but here is hoping we get hold of some fastboot images for the D4 soon...
I finally took the plunge and installed Safestrap. Once your phone is rooted, you just run an APK installed on your phone. The process feels incredibly clean, and I was completely comfortable that as long as I was careful, nothing bad would happen. This proved to be true.
It really does set up a dual-boot. I spent several hours today playing with CM9, and when I was done, I simply disabled the safe system, and the phone booted right back up into my rooted and debloated stock. The most dangerous part is making sure that you do NOT try to flash over the non-safe system, and, in fact, Safestrap generally won't even let you do that.
Not only did I find that Safestrap worked great, but CM9 works better on the Droid 4 than almost any other device I have played with it on. If they can make sure that the data connection is reliable and get the font camera working, it is practically ready for prime time. Everything else works great. I am now confident that we will see CM9 for the Droid 4 as soon as CM itself is complete and stable, since drivers do not seem to be a problem on this phone. I also suspect we will see some CM7-based roms quite quickly as well.
I am also very glad of the option to always easily revert back to the stock system without losing anything, it will make going to the Verizon store very easy if I ever need to.
I also came from a D1, installing ROMs was so easy, I'm a little hesitant on this one especially since a genuine ICS update is on the way. I might wait for that before I try custom ROMs. I use a front camera a lot so CM9 is unfortunately out of question. My battery issue was solved with a calibrate (deleting batterystats) even though it's not supposed to work, I can confirm that it definitely worked for me.
Once you toggle on the safe system, installing ROMS is just as easy as it was on the D1. What is nice, though, is you can keep your stock system fully in tact. I actually keep my phone on a simple rooted stock, but when a friend asks about Android ICS, I just toggle on the safe system, and boot it up. When I'm done, I toggle off the safe system, and back to stock. Safestrap is awesome.
core2kid... this is moto, the official update is gonna take 3-6 months so i would not suggest waiting it out.
i came from a D1 as well and safestrap bugged me out for a while... but once i installed and started using it i really like it. think of it as a dual-boot.
1 is your stock system that you do not f** with... you just leave it so that you have a backup should you f** up your...
2nd system is the one you flash all your ROMs on... no matter what you do to it, the first system is not touched, so you have to try REALLY hard to brick it.
Thanks. I'll give it a go. Last question, if I have hardware issues with the phone, is there a way to restore it to factory so I can warranty it? My main concern is my battery dying. I don't want to be stuck with a useless phone because the battery is in built.
i cant say with 100% certainty, but theres got to be a way.
as for the battery... it will probably die the day after your warranty is up, and by then there will be DIY replacement kits.
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as for the battery... it will probably die the day after your warranty is up, and by then there will be DIY replacement kits.
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With my luck, I can see that happening :/
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I have put Froyo on my phone early as many others have and there are a few bugs on it, so what I am wondering is when it officially comes out will there be "some" additional updates since it is already on my phone or will I have to reinstall it with the official version from the market? What I am wondering is just update any further updates from the market with the Froyo I have? or with the public release in the next couple weeks install that? does it matter? if this makes any sense what I am saying LOL
I have the exact same question in my mind. Remember the 2.1-update?
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My wife and I both have the Nexus One. I decided to stay on CM 5.0.7 Test 3 until he gets the chance to work on his 2.2 rom, I'm in no hurry.
My wife wanted it on hers because she wouldn't allow me to root her phone.
After putting 2.2 on hers there is some pretty bad stability issues. Her phone has straight up frozen at least 8 times since yesterday requiring a battery pull.
When he phone isn't being a temperamental babby its great but when it starts to chug the whole house of cards comes crashing down.
Since I rooted mine I just make nandroid backups and restore from that so life is simple for me but with hers how do I restore back to total stock?
Do I reboot into the bootloader and at the screen where I would typically apply the update.zip just use the restore option or would the restore option in the phones settings work? I.e Factory Default.
While she is semi tech savvy I just don't have the time or patients to deal with her phone issues right now so I guess she'll just need to be on 2.1 until the official release.
[Update] Froyo May Have Been Launched Prematurely
http://phandroid.com/2010/05/24/froyo-may-have-been-launched-prematurely/
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I have the exact same question in my mind. Remember the 2.1-update?
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sorry I am a newbie 2.2 is my first update that's why I am posting this to see if I didn't f*** up my phone or something. other than that it seems to be working fine with a few bugs here and there and 2 things updated today from the market, so am wondering leave it be or get rid of it and reinstall the official one? thnx for responses
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My wife and I both have the Nexus One. I decided to stay on CM 5.0.7 Test 3 until he gets the chance to work on his 2.2 rom, I'm in no hurry.
My wife wanted it on hers because she wouldn't allow me to root her phone.
After putting 2.2 on hers there is some pretty bad stability issues. Her phone has straight up frozen at least 8 times since yesterday requiring a battery pull.
When he phone isn't being a temperamental babby its great but when it starts to chug the whole house of cards comes crashing down.
Since I rooted mine I just make nandroid backups and restore from that so life is simple for me but with hers how do I restore back to total stock?
Do I reboot into the bootloader and at the screen where I would typically apply the update.zip just use the restore option or would the restore option in the phones settings work? I.e Factory Default.
While she is semi tech savvy I just don't have the time or patients to deal with her phone issues right now so I guess she'll just need to be on 2.1 until the official release.
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From what I understand, if you want to go back to ERE27/EPB54, you would need to either restore a Nandroid image that has those ROM's or download an unsigned original ERE27/EPB54 image.
When you say battery pull, are you actually physically pulling the battery whe the phone freezes? I've read a couple of posts/articles where that might be harmful to the phone and so what's recommended instead is to perform a soft-reboot.
You can do so by holding down the power button + volume down key + trackball at the same time. If done so correctly, the phone will automatically reboot in a few seconds.
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No can do. No unlocked bootloader = no regression. You either unlock the bootloader or live with Froyo.
I would consider a factory reset though, as I have no stability problems what so ever.
Hi so I just heard that the D3 was rooted two days ago (been keeping up until a week ago). I'm not exactly a pro in this area or have ever rooted a device before but I have spent quite a few hours today reading up on the process and any info I could find.
Basically I just want to know if I should root my D3 or wait out another week or so? I heard that a SBF (?) hasn't been found yet so the stock rom can't be recovered and there is really no recovery net yet so should anything go wrong, there aren't a lot of options.
There is a one-click method to root but I'm going to try the original method using the adb shell (lol still researching what on earth to do with that still, just installed the android sdk :x). I'm not concerned about the process of rooting my droid, it's what comes after that makes me hesitant in doing so.
I read that there is a (seemingly simple) method to unroot the D3 by deleting the su file in some directory and rebooting (can't remember, it seemed legit however). Would "unrooting" have any consequences or would your device be back to the exact same state it was in right before you rooted? I'm not planning to drastically mess around with my D3 should I root it. Just want to take a few screenshots in an app to help out a dev, freeze any bloatware that won't cause problems, do a complete nand backup, and... thats about all that comes to mind right now.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is if rooting my D3 tonight would have any irreversible consequences and if there is any benefit in holding off the root?
Oh! Btw the OTA, I know that rooting won't affect ones ability to receive the update but that it will unroot your device and keep it that way. Would the rooting-discovery process have to start anew for people who update using the OTA (Thinking Verizon might patch the root-exploit) ? I know that updating via OTA isn't too bright anyway because devs just take the update and build on it before releasing it on their own custom ROMs and whatnot, but I feel official updates are somehow more stable (most likely flawed thinking, feel free to correct me on that lol).
Yes - SBF is an important component which would guarantee 100% pre-root configuration.
Removing the su binary and the superuser app would however put the phone back in factory state for this exploit. But anything you do while rooted inside /system is your responsibility to correct. Motorola patches usually verify only file existence/checksums and not creation/modification dates, so you should be fine with simple push of the removed (or renamed) stuff back. I remember I was able to update my D2G without unrooting in the past, but that's not necessarily granted for any other updates of that or any other Motorola phone. Ideally, you want phone in factory state to guarantee update will pass.
Another issue is nand backup you mentioned. Custom recovery isn't yet available for this phone. You can't do nand backups. So even this "safety net" isn't here. Installing custom recovery is a "100% secure way" to have OTA updates fail to apply since it messes up with phone's /system files. Un-doing CWM is a bit more complex than unrooting only and if not done carefully - a sure way for a soft brick. SBF is what we all want before start messing with anything, IMO.
So if an OTA updates fails for whatever reason, your phone will get soft bricked or?
I don't think ill be updating anway, but its good info to know for the future.
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I would say root the device and don't worry about unrooting. If you have to return it to the store or something, unfreeze the apps and delete su. Once you mess with it though, it will be very difficult (impossible?) to ever make /system binary identical to the factory image without an sbf. That said, I doubt VZW takes the time to investigate this very closely.
But I don't see any other reason to ever unroot. When the OTA update comes down, just don't install it. In a few days after its first released, the community developers will tell you how to install it with root and not botch anything up.
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So if an OTA updates fails for whatever reason, your phone will get soft bricked or?
I don't think ill be updating anway, but its good info to know for the future.
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No - fortunately not. It will just say "Update failed" and phone will reboot back to normal.
Regarding updates - you may want to reconsider - updates usually fix bugs, bugs like the bluish camera or the wrong geotagging. Or stuff like phone shooting at max brightness after removal from HD dock.
But as the other poster mentioned - the community would do the hard work for you 'back-porting' the update to a rooted phone. Sure enough - we need custom recovery to be made before we can install any 'backported' updates or other customizations.
But all will come with time.
If you need to use an app that requires root (like openvpn or VPNC), or if you want to remove some of the unwanted apps Verizon stuck on the phone, you should root of course, but if you don't care about such stuff and want to be 'compliant' with stock software - stay as is, until at least SBF comes.
Yeah I rooted already but should an update come, I could always unroot my device. An update would be really welcome too. Yeah the bluish tint on the cam is bad but there are soft fixes for that. What I really really want out of the update is the huge improvement in battery life I've heard about. Im using the extended battery right now and straight up, it sucks. I've heard good things about the extended battery but mine lasts ... maybe 10 hours under light - medium usage, playing music for several hours and having the display on for about an hour. I expected a lot more. Numerous people have reported getting 24-48 hrs of life while others got 15 under normal/heavy use.
There have been a few reports of peope already receiving an OTA update (devs/testers most likely) but have said many pf the d3s current issues were fixed with it, primarily the blue tint on cam and the battery life.
Honestly, with root, I figured my battery would outlast a day like a champ, but there have been no/minimal improvements, even with every piece of bloat frozen. I even froze google Maps because it constantly showed up as using cpu (and therefore battery), have my radio set to cdma, and only have 1 gmail account syncing.
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I bought the N1 on the day it came out and it's still going fine. Well I must provide soem caveats here so say it's not the original unit. I have gone through 2 RMA's with HTC and 2 paid for repairs for the power button. The last time the power button failed, the repair only lasted abouit 6 weeks and when I complained they sent me a refurb rather than fix it.
For me the only issues for the N1 are
- flaky touch sometimes (go to suspend and back usually fixes it)
- constantly running out of system memory and all apps I can move are moved to the SD card.
So it's either get a new phone or root the N1. Given that the phone works for what I want rooting and a new firmware might be the answer.
So given that I have never rooted a phone or installed new firmware, can people suggest the most appropriate firmware I should be looking at and the easiest way to get there. The phone is currently on 2.3.6 (OTA).
There is so much conflicting information out there it's hard to know what the best route is.
Thanks
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I bought the N1 on the day it came out and it's still going fine. Well I must provide soem caveats here so say it's not the original unit. I have gone through 2 RMA's with HTC and 2 paid for repairs for the power button. The last time the power button failed, the repair only lasted abouit 6 weeks and when I complained they sent me a refurb rather than fix it.
For me the only issues for the N1 are
- flaky touch sometimes (go to suspend and back usually fixes it)
- constantly running out of system memory and all apps I can move are moved to the SD card.
So it's either get a new phone or root the N1. Given that the phone works for what I want rooting and a new firmware might be the answer.
So given that I have never rooted a phone or installed new firmware, can people suggest the most appropriate firmware I should be looking at and the easiest way to get there. The phone is currently on 2.3.6 (OTA).
There is so much conflicting information out there it's hard to know what the best route is.
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I have a rooted N1 that I bought in February of 2010, a month after they became available. It was rooted when I bought it on eBay and running one of the CM ROMs. I don't know how to root a phone, sorry.
I DO know how to load ROMs and have variously updated and modded the phone myself. I have been fortunate in that my power button has never failed, but while I was running a series of OTA ROMs (ROMs based on the pure Android released from Google) I noticed that the latest ones disabled the trackball wake feature, meaning that the power button was the only way to wake the phone. I had gotten used to trackball wake with the first CyanogenMod ROM, and so once I learned that the power button was a weak spot, I decided that a CM ROM or a modded AOSP ROM was the only option.
As there were some issues with CM ROMs that took months to work out (see WONK), I went with an AOSP ROM that I found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121595 . It's now a dead thread, but the links to the 3.1 version of the ROM is still there. I use the apps2SD version of the 3.1 ROM.
There are several more ROMs that are more recent, but this one is the best one I have ever found. You will need to root your phone and install a custom recovery (like AmonRA or ClockworkMod) to use it, but I have found that everything works well and it is extremely stable. I have over 70 apps on my phone with over 80MB of internal memory still available.
The only problem I have ever had is an intermittent battery drain, which I was able to fix by wiping the cache files (Dalvik and regular caches). The custom recoveries have the ability to do this. Apparently any corruption of the cache files causes excessive battery drain, but wiping them (which causes the phone to rebuild them on the next boot - a 4 minute process!) gives you fresh cache files and fixes the problem.
If you are willing to learn how to root your phone and install a custom recovery, I can recommend that ROM. Once the first part is done, loading a custom ROM is as easy as putting the zipped ROM file on your SD card, getting to the bootloader and telling it to install the zip.
Well just so you know, rooting or installing any ROM will never stop the touch input problems. Its my main dislike about the N1. Apps2SD would solve your storage issues though and all the extra little perks of rooting just sweeten the deal.
Replacing a phone is expensive and just not necessary for the N1 yet. May as well root in my opinion. CM7.1 is now perfectly stable, include trackball wake, can support A2SD as far as I know and has some nice extras too.
As well as that it shouldn't be TOO much longer until we get a decent ICS ROM.
Hope that helps you.
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Well just so you know, rooting or installing any ROM will never stop the touch input problems. Its my main dislike about the N1. Apps2SD would solve your storage issues though and all the extra little perks of rooting just sweeten the deal.
Replacing a phone is expensive and just not necessary for the N1 yet. May as well root in my opinion. CM7.1 is now perfectly stable, include trackball wake, can support A2SD as far as I know and has some nice extras too.
As well as that it shouldn't be TOO much longer until we get a decent ICS ROM.
Hope that helps you.
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Thanks. I never expected the new ROM to fix the touch input problems. That is a fundamental hardware issue.
I was thinking along the same lines regarding ICS. It's gone AOS now and I now see somebody has built a port for the N1 already. So if I wait a bit if I choose to install some custom firmware, if the reports suggest ICS runs fine on the N1 (to confirm that Google didn't release it because there was a performance issue with the N1 and ICS) then that's the route I will take. In for a penny, in for a pound I guess!
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(to confirm that Google didn't release it because there was a performance issue with the N1 and ICS)
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The issue is not because of performance, its the system partition size is not enough... Gosh! Did u know Galaxy Nexus's system dump is 600MB+
I've been running Lazslo's Froyo rom for awhile, but saw this one in Development, and thought I'd give it a whirl.
At first, was fast, good memory management, and a pretty fine rom.
However, after about a week, it started lagging badly. At first, a power-off reboot seemed to fix it. But then (after 1-2 days of trying this), it wouldn't power off. It would "reboot", skipping the "G1" splash screen, and then go into a 3-4 auto reboot cycle.
I finally gave up on it, and went back to FBL, which never exhibited this behavior, nor has it since I reflashed to it (over a week). But I'm still intrigued by the MT3G Froyo rom.
Maybe someone has an idea why it was acting like that?
What SPL/Radio do you use? Maybe reflashing it will solve it. Like any ROM, you have to reflash the ROM after a few days to make it work properly.
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What SPL/Radio do you use? Maybe reflashing it will solve it. Like any ROM, you have to reflash the ROM after a few days to make it work properly.
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Excuse me, but that's totally nonsense ... and repeating it again and again doesn't make it more correct.
Used whatever radio/spl it said.
As far as "reflashing", that is just plain SILLY.
I flash FBL, and don't reflash. Same as all other roms. No reflashing needed.
Either it works, or it doesn't, and the "odd" behavior my phone had with the Froyo AOSP was just in that rom, no others ever.
So, as I said, I went back to FBL. Nice, fast, small, good memory
Reflashed to AOSP 2.2 OTA. I downloaded a "fresh" copy, just in case.
I like the memory management, and the easy to flash themes, etc.
The "black text on white background" for SMS not being changeable is about the only irritating part of the ROM
I'll wait and see if the "odd" behavior emerges again.
So far, so good. (12 hours)
I'll post back later, and let everyone know
I mean, to do that after your rom does some weird things. It works with me, so it's not silly, just my opinion. AND DON'T HATE FOR A MISTAKE!
Actually, I've switched to a newer rom now,
CronMod-Dream, a 2.3.7 Gingerbread rom that, to me, combines the speed and stability of FBL with the usability features of 2.2 OTA.
Actually, the new rom has FBL and 2.2 OTA beat in speed and stability (at least, for me it does. Your mileage may vary)
So My phone is most certainly bricked this morning. I saw a few posts on the topic, as well as one that was locked. Seems that there a re more than 5 of us, can a mod by chance merge the posts, so we can start troubleshooting the issue, and keep it from happening in the future. I will describe what I have done, and maybe it will help someone come up with an idea of what binds us all to our bricks.
Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away I was a flashoholic:
So I get my black one in the mail, and start playing in the forums, seeing what's what, and I go about trying to moonshine, firmware doesn't match so it doesn't work, get her rooted, s-off with revone, and flash a few sense based roms. No problems. Try the cm rom listed in the first post of the 10.1 link, no gps, weak signal, back to sense. Finally get a few of the threads completely read, and find rc2 of 10.1 flash(using twrp 2.6.1.0, and I do all the wipes and format data, and factory reset before sideloading my roms) get it up and running, gps works, find the build.prop line to edit to get it to stick to sprint to work, and away we go, rom is good, problems are small, phone working exactly llike it's supposed to. I did play with trickster mod here and there, but didn't much care for the program. So was playing in original development, and saw that the twrp forum had new input, so I go into it, and see a new twrp available (2.6.3.0) dl, flash the .img, reboot recovery, wipe everything, sideload 10.1 rc2 again and gapps. Almost immediately noticed the temp on the phone was very warm, almost hot, and that was without being on the charger. It was bedtime, so plugged phone in, go to bed, get up look at phone, and its at 50 percent on the dot, and no red light. Houston we have a problem. So I start researching how to ruu back to stock, and just to see if it was the recovery, I flashed cwm, didn't like it, and then reflashed the older twrp, problem persists, well I really didn't want my phone to reach 0 percent battery, so the race was on, set phone on ac vent and charge it, take it off charger, it would drop 20 to 30 percent in five to ten minutes. Get ruu downloaded, can't get it to run, troubleshooting that, my battery plugged in is down to 6 percent and the speakers are hissing at me, when I see the problem, plug it in to the laptop, run ruu, watching phone, watching progress, complete!!! yes reboot phone, log in to gmail, get message about phone using more power than it's receiving (plugged in to wall again) and boom shutdown. So now I'm thinking to myself hrmm good or bad, red light says charging, go smoke a few cigs comeback in phone boots, and is charging, no errors, everything is running like it is supposed to, everything works. It's still very warm though for not running much of nothing, leave it in the cold air, and she charges up to 100% (albeit slowly took most of the day) unplug her, go to sleep, and about 3 hours later I heard the low battery warning, and woke up to my nice black brick. No red light, no pressing buttons for x amount of time, she is most certainly dead.
Hopefully this can help us figure out what is causing the bricks.
And only 3 more hours to the sprint store opens :victory: that's bound to be fun
I'm willing to bet your phone had a bad battery. Too bad we can't check for ourselves.
I was running slim rom and after a few days i lost all sound on my phone, even with headphones plugged in. Flashed a Stock rooted sprint ROM, still no sound. I then decided flash the hexed fastboot menu to mask the S-off, "tampered flags" and splash screen, RUU'ed back to stock and returned the phone. I'm hesitant to flash another asop rom, I'll just flash sense Roms from now on. Still waiting on that 4.3.
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I'm willing to bet your phone had a bad battery. Too bad we can't check for ourselves.
I was running slim rom and after a few days i lost all sound on my phone, even with headphones plugged in. Flashed a Stock rooted sprint ROM, still no sound. I then decided flash the hexed fastboot menu to mask the S-off, "tampered flags" and splash screen, RUU'ed back to stock and returned the phone. I'm hesitant to flash another asop rom, I'll just flash sense Roms from now on. Still waiting on that 4.3.
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Yeah, I agee. There is nothing in your story that makes me think the problem was an AOSP ROM.
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Yeah, I agee. There is nothing in your story that makes me think the problem was an AOSP ROM.
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I don't know, I love Slim ROMs but if it happens again Sprint will start asking questions and might investigate the phone, plus I got the last red phone in stock
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Yeah, I agee. There is nothing in your story that makes me think the problem was an AOSP ROM.
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How many brick threads have you seen in here on Sense roms?
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How many brick threads have you seen in here on Sense roms?
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Including folks that flashed gsm roms? Zero
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So in summary: you flashed an aosp Rom decided to go back to a sense Rom decided to go back to aosp messed around flashing recoveries, ruu'd back to stock and then it died. You got a lot going on there is what I'm saying.
but it's ok to eat fish cause they don't have feelings.....
i wont even flash an aosp rom on this phone i have seen a few people brick while on aosp.. and the dude i got my one from he bricked his first one running an aosp rom.. he said he rooted it flash an aosp rom.. was fine for a week or so the while listing to music on the phone it died brick.. im not saying its deff aosp roms but i have seen and heard enough where im not going to try it... lol im good with my sense:good:
I wonder what's the difference between GE ones and Sense ones.
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So in summary: you flashed an aosp Rom decided to go back to a sense Rom decided to go back to aosp messed around flashing recoveries, ruu'd back to stock and then it died. You got a lot going on there is what I'm saying.
but it's ok to eat fish cause they don't have feelings.....
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I guess you could summarize it like that, but I thought that I stated I knew it was going to die, shortly after I upgraded my recovery. All flashing after that was an attempt to troubleshoot/save the beast if at all possible.
Well I know what's causing the bricks.
So i figured out in part at least what is indeed causing the bricks. It was my first guess, but I messaged a couple of kernel devs, and the information they gave me led me to believe my first assumption was wrong. Apparently it was not. i am not sure if it's an aosp thing, a twrp (was using 2.6.1.0) when I found out, or just a really nice user error experienced by a handful of people. But regardless, either the kernel, and or some of it's settings are not being wiped in twrp to include an advanced wipe of all check boxes besides usbotg, a format data, and then a factory reset wipe. So when kernel or settings interact with new kernel/rom that you install and they don't play nice together, you get your nice little brick. Oh but how do I come across such preposterous conclusions you ask yourself? So I payed my 50 bucks, got my new phone, put my go to rom on it, and play away; lo and behold a stable 10.1 cm comes out. Can't resist, must flash, disapointing to see in the stable release the first thing I have to do is edit build prop to get sprint signal(it is a sprint rom yes?) Still liking the rom for what it is, probably my favorite, except Trebuchet is laggy as S**t(ping pongs kernels alleviate this, but his kernels are for 10.2). So in an attempt to fig the lag, i play with different settings and whatnot that I found laying around xda here and there. nothing is helping with the stutter I see on the home screen. So I go to the main One thread, and look around for kernels, I find one, don't figure it will work, but figure I'll just wipe if it does bad things to my phone; and it did. 8 boot loops later what do I do? Wipe everything as mentioned above, and sideload 10.1 stable, guess what happens on reboot? That's right bootloops. So some how the kernel or some of it or its settings at least are not going away as they should on a clean install, and that I'm sure is what is causing the bricks.
Ty,
I'll be here all night
You sure do keep a really good attitude through it all though. We've all been there but you are purposely putting yourself and wallet through it over and over to find the culprit. I for one appreciate it.
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